SILVIA PRO X - Rancilio's New Generation Of Home Espresso
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Rancilio isn't new to the espresso scene, and with 95 years of experience they've been putting machines in homes for over 20 years it's not a surprise to see the Silvia line evolve. The Silvia Pro X is the newest generation of their espresso makers and boasts all the things modern home baristas and enthusiasts are clamoring for, but that's only half the battle.
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[0:00] INTRO
[1:18] QUICK OVERVIEW
[2:22] WORKFLOW & PERFORMANCE
[3:53] VARIABLE SOFT INFUSION
[5:29] QUIRKS & DOWNSIDES
[6:45] FINAL THOUGHTS
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I actually really like the understated, minimalist appearance of Silvias.
I generally do like that style, I mean I love the Linea Mini, this one just for me is just too far in that direction.
I was going to say the same thing. I like the simple, classic style of the machine.
The style doesn’t overwhelm me, which I like.
@@Sprometheus will be awesome to do comparison with pro x and ECM Synchronika
I find it understated, which is better than overstated or odd looking. However, it presents a very industrial look that isn't aesthetically appealing to me. It was designed as if it were just going to sit in the back of a kitchen of a restaurant, so it needed to look sturdy, but not elegant or beautiful in any way. It's the only somewhat downside to me of this machine. I'd rather it look more elegant in my home kitchen.
Not all coffee machines need to come with a no fingers policy. The lack of chrome is a bonus in my opinion. The design is classic and you don’t mess with that if you want to keep your audience.
I love the utilitarian look of the Silvia, personally. I think it looks great in a kitchen compared to a highly stylized Breville machine.
A Breville is an appliance…not an espresso machine.
@@ccuellar6212 Another comment from someone that is trying to discredit Breville. Yawn.
@@giodc8599 Breville is a great appliance. 😘
@@ccuellar6212 Dude, coffee machines ARE appliances 🤦♀️
Breville is not what it used to be. Even their fancy looking expensive microwaves with nice handles have issues just after warranty expire. There are many issues with firmware too.
One thing worth mentioning is that a full pressure flush/purge is required for soft infusion to work properly before inserting the portafilter as the group head needs to be fully saturated. Otherwise water will just drizzle from the center onto the puck which can lead to heavy channeling. I almost gave up on soft infusion until I accidentally found out about that but I still find it a bit stressful as the gap between flushing and starting soft-infusion shouldn’t take longer than maybe 3 seconds, otherwise the saturation is gone and drizzling happens again…
Just what I needed this morning. Calmness just rushed through my mind & body. Such a joyous feeling. All my stress has evaporated. Much blessings sent to you. One of the best videos ever!
Rancilio’s ‘soft infusion’ is somewhat different from traditional pre-infusion. The intended goal for those few seconds is not necessarily to fully saturate the grounds, but rather to partially empty the coffee boiler so that when the pump engages it takes longer to fill the boiler and reach full pressure, aka a soft pressure ramp. The longer the soft infusion the longer the pressure ramp. To take full advantage of this feature, the group should be purged for about 3 seconds prior to pulling a shot. Hold down the brew switch until it reads ‘F’ (stands for flush), then start your shot cycle. When compared to shots with no soft infusion, I did find that the soft infusion mitigated the channeling issues I observed in the full pressure shots. Overall, I think it’s a useful feature.
you opinion between lelith elizabeth and the new silvia pro X ? i can t decide :D , thanks !
was it tastier?
I purchased the Pro just as the Pro X was released and got a great clearance deal. Yes, the look isn't the best, but I only care about workflow and results, and I think the Pro 100% delivers, especially for the price. Not sure how many other dual's can do what it does for that price-point. I wasn't too concerned with paying almost $1,000 more for the X just to get pre-infusion (the pressure gage is nice to look it, but ultimately doesn't really do anything). I've heard these machines are pure workhorses, and will last forever if properly maintained. Love it.
I recently purchased a moded V1 and I absolutely love it. The minimalist design makes it look great - it just sits charmingly in my kitchen
I've also got it for a fraction of the price of the pro x, and I have 75% of what the pro x offers 😍
I’ve owned a Pro X since December 2021, an upgrade from Gaggia Classic. I think Spro is right on target here. It’s a fantastic machine and I love it. I have nothing bad to say about it. The drip tray doesn’t bother me. The minimalistic design suits our kitchen aesthetic, so it is a win for me, ticking all the right boxes, especially in terms of functionality and reliability. Highly recommend this. Great review Spro, I was so excited when you reviewed my machine.
As long as you are smarter than the drip tray…you’ll be okay.
Hows the milk steaming capability?
@@surepho9796 I consistently make tulip stacks, rosetta, ripple hearts, .. like any machine you’ll have to learn the way through working with it and dialing in your method. For me, I have had no problems at all. The duel boiler is great. I can pull great tasting shots back to back without an issue.
@@ccuellar6212 true! I haven’t had a mess yet and it has been around 9 months. I’m sure you can get an aftermarket float indicator for cheap, but I didn’t even bother. I’m pretty meticulous with what I’m doing. I can see how it could be an issue for some. Admittedly a strange design for a drip tray but definitely not a deal breaker for me and I’m very pleased with my decision.
Is It a big step up over the GCP. I just got the GCP and find it very clumsy to use with limited space , the steam wand is not so user friendly also. I know you can get good steamed milk on it with good technique but these things bug me, obviously the dual boiler is a big upgrade. I guess what I mean is how do you find daily use on Silvia X and are shots tasting better,,glad you made the change etc, thanks
Thanks for this review! I hope to get my hands on one of these someday.
Of course! Thanks for watching and it’s definitely a solid machine to aim for!
I just got the Silvia today. Was looking for the most basic machine to mod. By modding the Silvia you can get preinfusion, pressure profiling, and also build a built-in scale. With the mods, this machine would be far better than machines that cost 3 times more. Bear in mind that due to small boiler, it makes an excellent machine for brewing 2 cups at a time.
I was waiting for this! That's it settled then time to place an order.
We upgraded to one of these machines when our Breville/Sage Barista Express gave up on us. We also got a Niche Zero, so quite a change. But it was worth it with much better coffee and much, much more consistency. We love both the new machines. Yes the drip tray design is not perfect but it's just part of the routine to empty it, just like topping up with fresh water. I like the design but am a "substance over style" kind of chap. I'm surprised you didn't mention that the pump runs at 9bar straight out of the box, unlike most similarly priced machines. Being in the UK meant that it was shipped direct from Italy, which was pretty straightforward. So in case you haven't worked it out, it's a big thumbs up from me!
I love my RSPX. I love the basic linear look too.
It does exactly what its supposed to and my all black looks beautiful.
There are many machines that have crazy designs and pretty lights but simple don't provide what they're made for. Make good/consistent espresso.
I’m very happy with the Silvia pro x, been using for 6 months, solid workflow and easy use. I didn’t enjoy setting the “wake up in x hours” so added a smart plug to power up before I wake up and it’s ready to use everyday. The back flush process with the cap is a bit odd and I think I’ll buy a blank basket for easier maintenance process. I prefer the clean look and design over other machines with more ornamental and unnecessary designs.
I’ve seen a lot of reviews complaining about the drip try, and while I agree the lift out isn’t the best, I haven’t found it an issue as it doesn’t require frequent emptying unless you’re flushing the group head into the tray frequently, even regular maintenance doesn’t fill it much so this just isn’t a problem during normal use.
Just wanted to say I just discovered this channel through J-Hoff, you are great dude keep it up! 🙌🏻
I have had one of the early early models for almost 20 years. No frills. Single boiler. Looks almost the same as the most current model, so they obviously haven't changed the manufacturing process for most of the machine. I added a third party PID years ago. It's never let me down. I wouldn't use it to entertain guests who all order cappuccinos and lattes - single boiler sucks big time for that - but for a couple of espressos or coffee drinks daily, it's gold. And it was priced way lower than what you have to pay today for a much more advanced machine, of course. I love my Silvia.
Very good summary, I have the same thoughts, and a similar electronic thermostat modification.
Only bad thing I can say is my chassis is a bit corroded, after 5 years of almost daily use.
@@daniel635biturbo My Silvia got a simple mod from a 3D printing website wich extends the opv outlet to the drip tray just a bit. Since then all the water ends where it belongs to.
Got for myself a duo temp pro and tbh for a single person and only one espresso a day this machine is almost unbeatable. Super fast warm up, very easy access for water tank and easy to clean plus makes really good coffee. Can’t say anything about Rancillio except that it has very industrial and classic design for espresso machines from 1990’s 👍
I have had a Ms Silvia for 7 years now other then replacing expendables the machine has worked faultlessly through out that time period. I do drink 99% espresso so having a single boiler works fine, (temperature surfing) and I can steam milk when I need to. I have upgraded the shower screen, silicon gasket, portafilter, insulated the boiler and rebuilt the steam valve.
Coming from a guy with a modded Silvia ver1 for 10 years. Its a tank... all parts available online and has been a solid performer - but "temp surfing" a single boiler sucks. I can still make an amazing latte. I can say I like the basic design because its narrower, fits my counter and the wife doesn't get on my case for spending the money on what could look like a fancy machine. The PID menus are normal for someone used to the standard Auger PID on most of those. You don't get in those menus too often once set. You make your kick ass pro-sumer latte and go to work. I'm about to buy one of these PRO x for the dual boiler alone, and I don't want to drop $5k on a linea mini...thank you for the review thumbs up.
I have that single boiler base model of the silvia and I personally love it. I am used to a commercial machine at work so waiting between brewing and steaming is a bit tedious so I know one day I will get a dual boiler, since I’m spoiled from a commercial machine.. 😅 but overall no dissatisfaction from the base model!
its a very good review,thanks for that.I am agree with you for all.
Nice video! 😎
I have had Rancilio Silvias for about 20 years - they have consistently made good espresso, but the main drawback has been how slow it takes for the boiler to warm up and having to wait. I have given one to our son, and have a backup waiting in the wings in case anything goes bad that I cannot fix. The Pro X looks like it might be a very good investment (hint for my wife) this Christmas.
Good one bro 👍👍
Great video. Thank you for that review! I am currently an owner of a Silvia V6 and has been for two years. Sort of my “work from home Covid” purchase. I find it to be great but I am lacking a bit more features and two boilers. Thus, the upgrade might be the Pro x. I love the Italian brutal design of the Silvia (and rocky grinder). I am just curious - when you switch it on, it heats the boiler for the espresso. But do you also need to turn on/heat the boiler for the water pump at the same time? So to clicks to turn both on? Just so that you are able to brew and steam right after each other.
Thanks again :)
What would you recommend between the Silvia Pro X and the Profitec Pro 500 heat exchanger with PID and Flow Control. I cannot decide between the two. I am upgrading from a Gaggia Classic pro. Thanks for the video. Very Helpful.
The background is just like a paradise for coffee lovers
Haha, well that’s good cause the stuff in front of me is just a wall and some boxes and storage. Not nearly as fun to look at
Great video! Any chance of a follow up video on getting silky milky using that 4 hole steam wand?
Love your espresso machine reviews. Did you have to adjust the opv out of the box for the silvia to brew at 9 bars?
And what’s the downside vs a more prosumer machine like the linea mini?
Our 2006 vintage Silvia has needed some major repairs (all DIY) but has cranked out about 5,000 mostly triple shots in those 16 years. New steam valve, overhauled (leaky) boiler gasket, and just recently a new pump. I'm about to get the Auber pre-infusion PID kit for it, as temp surfing is tedious. Consistent water temp is worth the extra cost. But wow, it makes great espresso with practice.
Great review! Just curious, will my generic 58mm bottomless portafilter fit the Silvia Pro X?
Great review. The functionality of the machine seems lovely. I also enjoy the "German utilitarian"(???) look of Rancilio machines.
Thanks Matthew, and yeah it’s very easy and simple to use. The look for me just goes a bit too far into the utilitarian and as someone who films and photographs for a living I just tend to struggle in finding angles that really hit right on this machine.
Love my Silvia. I have had the same one for 8 years, a single boiler with an aftermarket PID. The thing is a tank! It is still performing as though it was its first day out of the box. That was the main reason why I invested in the Silvia as they are touted to have a long lifespan. I have been using it everyday to make anywhere from 2 to 4 cups of espresso (ultimately americanos). If this bad boy every does go down, another Silvia will be at the top of my list due to its features and longevity!
Same experience almost word for word. Finally, it's time for a new machine (I have to move the wires under the hood to heat the machine before use...just a wiggle but it's a sign of age) and I'm looking at the updated models as I work towards making my decision. Rancilio Silvia is the leading machine at this point.
Excellent review, thank you. Can you please review the Profitec Go and the Diletta Mio since in my opinion are the obvious contenders of the Rancilio Silvia Pro X?
I like the look myself, especially the black one. Looking at a Silvia as it's durable, reliable, and, most importantly, locally repairable.
Does it have auto turn on? Would need a clock to do that presumably. I ask, because 4 mins seems a long start up duration? Maybe in need a machine with a smaller boiler like the Lalit Elizabeth
Could I get some recommendations for which machine to purchase? Got a niche zero but using a Sage duo temp for 5 years. Budget is around £1000-1500. Have been looking at Rancillio Silva pro x, Profitec 400 (maybe with added flow control) or 500 and Sage/Breville dual boiler. I make 1-2 cups in the morning and make milky drinks in the evening. Would appreciate some recommendations/overall best pic!
In NL (and I assume EU) the steam wand has 3 holes. I noticing steaming milk in a 500ml pitcher is a lot more harder then in a 350ml pitcher. Does anyone know where I can buy the 4 holes tip?
Hmmm....quick read thermometer in the cup... is there a rule of thumb for in-cup temperature relative to grouphead temperature? I have a thermapen I'd like to do some testing with.
Thank you friend.
Of course! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend!
I’m seriously considering purchasing one of these machines. One question- does the soft infusion feature work with the steam boiler switched off? I won’t be using steam very frequently since I tend to drink straight espresso and find the energy savings appealing from just heating the brew boiler. The Lelit Elizabeth was on my short list until I learned that the steam boiler must be on for their pre-infusion feature to work.
My Rancilio Silvia from 2013 had a boiler made of a low yield lead alloy, raising questions of its impact on taste but also bringing up health concerns, so great to see they switched to brass. I didn’t see this in the video but I believe the machine also offers a direct plumbing connection? The pressure of the of the direct connection could lead to some changes needed at a PID level. Also, would be great to have seen more on the build quality. Though put together with a solid steel frame, the brew-head housing was previously wrapped in a faux polished steel plastic that peeled over time. One last note, Silvias are notoriously loud and a comparison with similar machines could have been an important piece of information for those considering the purchase.
I don't know if Rancilio found a way around it, but as far as I know in order to do a direct plumb, you need a rotary pump. This has vibration pumps.
Great review. Seems like a really worth while machine but it absolutely looks like a plain jane kitchen appliance. I agree
I have this model in white. I like the looks, particularly next to the white niche. Keeps the countertop from looking to cluttered. And the shots are very consistent. I'm still playing with the soft infusion.
Would you say PID is really worth it? Also, what about PID in HX machines? Someone told me PID control isn’t worth it, as long as it’s stable. Have also heard some say PID in an HX is not as beneficial, and that a dual boiler with no PID would be better option.
Been debating between Bezzera Magica PID (or similar) vs the Silvia Pro X. Thoughts?
In terms of the quality of the coffee, would you say it's worth spending the extra $$$ on buying for example the ECM Sychronika which is priced much higher?
I love my Silvia Pro, probably my favorite machine in its price range.
It does have a lot going for it in that price range. It seems the Pro has more or less been replaced with the X though. For better or worse, but it’s a few hundred dollars more from what I understand.
@@Sprometheus I think it's about $170 more, so significant but not exorbitant.
I’ve owned a Silvia (v2) since 2010. Never missed a beat. These things are built to last, and those switches are still crisp today.
Only had a tiny bit of flaking on some aesthetic tin-like finishing around the porta filter shroud.
A good grinder is an absolute must, and without a PID (can be modded on an old one or included as is here) you have to become pretty good at surfing that boiler temperature by feel. But overall this version looks like it solves most of the issues in terms of workflow with previous generations.
Now the only question left, is this iteration still built to the same standard and will last for 12+ years?
The pantechnicon drip tray upgrade was also very worth it alongside the bottomless portafilter.
I actually have their full upgrade set, it just arrived after I started filming and didn’t want it to just show up. But you’ll see it in another upcoming video featuring the X.
I am between the synchronica and this, any ideas?
I do have the budget for the first, what you think
Which machine do you reccomend that is reliable and looks great
That boxy contemporary look of the Silvia is just perfect for my taste.
one question about white color? is it white or kind a light cream color hope you understand. thanks
i have the version 2 since 2005 ish. i changed the portafilter gasket once!! thats it nothing else. for upgrades i bought some ims baskets and a potrafilter. downside is the lack of temperature stability especially with such a small boiler, it needs a pid
Do you know if you can upgrade the vibration pump to a rotary pump?
My steam knob got stuck today after my husband turned it all the way up, maybe a little bit over… does anyone know how to fix it? We were able to pull the knob straight out and nothing seems broken. We can also reattach it but it is still stuck…
Aaaaaah yes! It's so refreshing to hear an American pronounce that "C" sound as intended :D great machine in it's price range btw
Haha well I’ve heard it pronounced a few different ways, but I used the way they say it at Rancilio as I figured that was the right way haha.
Agree 100% Brewing espresso, for better or for worse, includes the tactile experience of the process and the aesthetics.
For sure, and everyone has balanced for what they look for in either direction as well.
So the only difference between pro and pro x is the preinfusion feature and the gauge?
I find the Rancilios look much better when painted. The stainless versions just remind me of the kind of industrial kitchen equipment you would find in a hospital or old folk's home.
Thank for the analysis. I did considered the Sylvia ProX when I recently decided to upgrade, but I am glad I opted instead for the Bellezza Bellona for basically the same features (1600$ Canadian).
Love the stainless steel dual boilers the PID, the somewhat pre-infusion, the glass water container instead of plastic, etc.
A review of yours would be very interesting. ☕👍
Just wanted to ask if you still love your Bellezza Bellona? I'm currently looking for an upgrade from my Breville and looked it up after reading your comment and this machine looks like it has the features of machines that sell for 2.5k.
Cheers! :)
@@LaMereACaniche
Je la recommande encore. Elle fonctionne à merveille.
Somewhat unrelated question: I love the design of your t-shirt, where did you get it?
I've owned the pro (not x) for about a year now and it is an incredible machine and an even better value. I think the soft infusion would be interesting to play with but not worth the jump for me. I have heard the gripe about the drip tray several times before and I really don't understand it. This isn't a HX machine. You're not blasting copious amounts of water in to your drip tray to do a cooling flush. I make about two drinks a day and quite honestly, the water in the drip tray is usually evaporated by the next day!
I’m curious how much was the Pro? Not X
you opinion between lelith elizabeth and the new silvia pro X ? i can t decide :D , thanks !
I’ve owned the v3 and v5E single boiler Silvia’s. These machines are solid and consistent and really seamed to kickstart the “prosumer” market off. I worked my v3 to death but the black sub chassis of the v5 is rusting badly now. I’d be shopping elsewhere for a replacement except for Rancillio moving to Inix steel on the latest frames. The Pro X is priced more keenly now so might make the leap to a dual boiler.
This vs. the Profitec Pro 300 ... which would you prefer?
Great review, but it wouldn't be a Silvia if they changed the design. I love that it carries its heritage with pride. The only problem is that they're so reliable that you only ever need to buy one. I've got a 2016 5e, and it is still perfect. Would be nice if they sold upgrade kits.
I generally agree. However, I would love to see a new design from them. Perhaps I would have chosen to keep the Rancilio Silvias as they currently are and dop the price while making these iterations (the Pro and Pro X) with a new form factor. A redesigned drip tray, water tank, and a pressure gauge viewable by someone over 5' tall would be very welcome changes in a new chassis.
Couldn't you also do preinfusion on a much cheaper flair 58?
I would like to ask the community- I would like to upgrade my machine from the Breville express to something high end. I heard a lot about this brand. Should I pull the trigger on this and walk away or is there something else I should look at? To be honest this is a rabbit hole that I can’t seem to find my way out
Nice review! I have a few questions: 1) So do we need to let the water run out of the group head before brewing? 2) Do we need to do back flushing after each brew? Does Pro X have an easier way to backflush? 3) how to cool down the boiler after steaming?
Thank you!
Bought it shortly after watching your video. Been in love!
I've had my Rancilio Silvia since 2018. She makes 2 cups a day sometimes more. Thought about upgrading to the double boiler Pro X, but the single boiler is more than capable of producing great coffees. Maintenance is minimal and I've had no issues with her so far. A fantastic and dependable machine. I paid around $700 +/- back then and while id like a Pro X, I can't see a better cup made for the cost of a Pro X. In the mean time. My old single boiler continues to make coffee house quality at home for pennies per serving... Silvia and Rocky also travel with me on road trips. One other thing. The drip tray has never been an issue for me an works just fine...just empty it when done. The fact that you tip it up to remove is also a non issue. Nothing will spill out.
I absolutely love my Pro X fitted with Pantechnicon design’s bottomless portafilter and steam knob. My only complaint is the drip tray design
See Pantechicon for the drip tray too!
Did you mention ways to supply water and type of pump?
Silvia is an amazing machine i love it ❤
I just bought a new Silvia M, to replace our 19 year old Silvia (first gen). I was looking at the Pro X, but just couldn't swing the extra $1k for dual boiler, PID, and other bells and whistles. But after getting a new Silvia M, I wonder ... It might be nice for you to address the difference between the two machines, to help someone like me (in the future) to decide which way to go and if the Pro X is worth the extra wheelbarrow of coins.
My gripe with the new Silvia M, is that in four days, I have thrown away about 12 pulls, and drank two. I'm using the same Rocky grinder, same Cafe Umbria Gusto Crema beans, and the coffee is not worth drinking. I have adjusted my grinder with increments down to "6" on my grinder. After 19 years of enjoying my setup, I find it difficult to understand how everything I was doing, immediately went south with the new Silvia M. Even with everything else dialed in and tested (one change at a time), I'm getting shots pulled at an average of 14 seconds before the light comes on. My wife has accidentally, had two experiences where the pull was in spec, closer to 30 seconds. I contacted Whole Latte Love days ago about this and haven't heard back. So I'm not pleased there. I bought my previous machine from them as well. Anyway, not to be a complainer, my point is simply that beginners should steer clear of this machine unless it offers easier control over the M model. Otherwise, there is the potential for hating the machine. If the Pro X solves the issues I'm having, I would have to seriously consider if I'd pay the extra money.
Question: The brew boiler seems kind of small for back-to-back espresso shots. I know the boiler can rebound and reach temp quickly after a shot, but will consecutive shots taste similar? Will they come out in the same time frame? For example, on my GCP the second shot always comes out faster than the first shot, and the taste is very different too.
Some sources say, give her 90 seconds before the next shot, then it is spot on. Also it should NOT overheat if left on.
Competitors such as Profitec Pro 300 or Ascaso PID Duo seem to overheat if not used for 30 minutes. Great plus for Silvia Pro (X)
Could you review the Breville Dual Boiler? Thanks!
OMG they still have not fixed that bloody drip tray issues after all these years! Like seriously this is such an easy thing for them to fix. Anyway this was a very good review !
As long as you are smarter than the drip tray…you’ll be okay.
Good review. Have you reviewed the Lalit Elizabeth?
I remember almost buying this machine. It was sooo tempting. But the small drip tray and weird button functions swayed me into the Quickmill Arnos. I think the Rancilio design is beautiful though.
I’m sure you would’ve been happy with it as you adjusted to it. I’m not sure why so many manufacturers are going with shallow drip trays though.
Agree on that!
@@Sprometheus at least give us a shallow drip tray with the option to drain it through a small tube out the back to a larger container under the table.
I have a suspicion the PRE-INFUSION settings being hidden in the last menu item is just a way for Rancillio to save on some extra work and testing - it's an -addition- to the menu that was otherwise functional and programmed and proven. If they'd added it in a different order, re-ordering the options -COULD- always cause bugs in the future that weren't present in the 'non-X' version.
Did you look into the Lelit Elizabeth?
At a glance it seems to have the same core features (dual boiler with PIDs, preinfusion, pressure gauge), with a more polished look and possibly better ergonomics (although there is a single pump in the Lelit, and I wonder what this changes).
It seems priced close to the Silvia Pro X in the US, but here in France it is significantly cheaper (around 1500€ for the Prox X vs. 1100€ for the Elizabeth).
The Elizabeth also has a stainless steel service boiler capable of delivering up to 4 bar of steam pressure, something you won't find on machines until you go far more expensive than that. The Elizabeth even has a feature where the steam pressure can be used to pressurize the brew water (a solenoid valve controls this), giving you full variable preinfusion. It's really an incredible machine.
I did considered those when I recently upgraded, but the Bellazza Bellonna with all these features plus a price tag of $1600. Canadian was a deal maker..
I have had a silvia (pid'ed) for about 20 years (breville last 16mths, boo) so I am a fan. Since I am pretty much an espresso drinker their is not much of a draw for the second boiler, but for that money I would just like some fancier sheetmetal and knobs. Espeically strange when you consider that an Italiian standard is "Styling is not that much more expensive than ugly". Or something in that vein.
After I bought a dedica with a bottomless portafilter and a rancillio steam wand, I dont really understand what else one would need to get good coffee. I mean for 200 usd its totally unbeatable.
Sorry if I missed it, but do you have insight into the flow rate/pressure of the soft infusion? Is it constant? A slow ramp?
I can't get good foam milk at right temperature with the silvia pro x.
Can you review the La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi II it’s a unique looking machine, please and thanks
I've had my Pro X for about a month and loving it!
Nice! I’ve had it for a couple months now, only about a month left in the loaner but I’ve been impressed with it overall.
I like the tank style look on my 2007 Silvia but it seems out of place at the Pro X price point
Yeah I like the look, that chrome robot smudge magnet does not do it for me. Theatre in the cup is where I want it.
Great review. is it capable to cater a small coffee shop?
I don't think so, the delay between the second and subsequent cups would be too much. I use it mostly for cappucinos.
Would you pick the Silvia over an older pro-sumer heat exchange machine? I feel like the PID’s and dual boilers would provide better heat stability and milk texture.
I’m looking to move on from my old Mini Wega.
I wish it was bit more stylized like Lelit Bianaca with some knobs are wood and levers and stuff so it makes the kitchen look nicer.
How variable is the soft infusion? Is it a back door flow control?
It’s variable in the sense that you can use it for 1-6 seconds of low pressure water flow, but that’s the only variable you’ve got.
@@Sprometheus thanks
@@Sprometheus did you find yourself only using one timer of the soft infusion or found yourself changing it for different roasts?
love the review but Ive never seen you smile 😭
Between this and the breville dual boiler, what's your take?
Breville is an appliance…not an espresso machine.
@@ccuellar6212 can you explain yourself?
what shirt are you wearing?
Why didn’t they make the steam boiler switch one that could be left on? Wall timer looks like it will only work to heat up brew boiler 😩
pretty sure if steam was on when you shut off the machine that steam will be on the next time you turn the machine on
@@mattwendling267 i dont know its a rocker switch that goes back to the off position. I wonder if it does?
The temperature display normally is brew temperature not boiler temperature.