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- From 2020, Bill Whitaker reports on untraceable firearms, called ghost guns, which are handcrafted via legally purchased gun kits.
This week, a new federal regulation took effect that requires the kits to include serial numbers and mandates background checks for people who buy the kits from dealers.
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Imagine thinking a serial number is what will stop someone from getting something they shouldn’t have
Excellent point!!!
They’re really trying to convince us that criminals won’t commit crimes if they take legal guns lol
I wanted to like, but then it wouldn't be at 69 anymore.
@@guillermoelnino the real MVP
Serial numbers are only useful if a weapon has been found at a crime scene. Guns leave better forensic evidence in the form of shell casings and recovered bullets.
Ghost gun is a government manufactured slang term for homemade firearms, which are perfectly legal, provided you're not a convicted felon. These "kits" are not the only way to create a homemade gun.
Years ago that used to call them zip guns
Nope not at all. You don't need to buy these if you know what you're doing. I want one though
You don't need much to fire a bullet that's for sure..
@@mrhamburger6936 Wrong - "zip guns" are fired by a rubber band similarly to a slingshot. Although they might fall into the category of a privately produced firearm, it is a specific type of firearm.
@@ifimustimust Rubber bands? Zip guns refer to single shot home made firearms that typically use an open bolt or slam fire type action. I have never seen a zip gun that used rubber bands. Springs are a thing. The only firearm I have ever seen that used rubber bands is the early beta versions of the songbird 3d printed .22lr pistol. And they needed like 10 rubber bands to even work, which is why they use a spring now.
Criminals don't care about gun laws. It's not the gun but the psychopath.
Nah, haven't you seen those hoards of guns roaming the streets killing people? All by themselves?
Pretty impressive I'd say, not having legs and all... Is that why they are "ghost"? They just float around with nobody at all holding or using them?
@@outcast170 lol yeah right.
that only extends so far. the fact it's so easy to buy the seller(s) are to blame. then it becomes a political issue
@@meh4062 Wait until you find out 3d printer community.
Did you know that a stolen gun with the serial numbers scratched off is labeled a ghost gun as well, to boost the statistics for gun control. There are very few actually owner made guns involved in a crime. Once again, its criminals, not law abiding citizens breaking the law.
Did you watch this?
@@subosgotit just stating a fact, doesnt matter if I watched it.
No that’s a stolen gun not the bro
@@tgman3000 the gun shown in school shooting is a 1911 with sn removed
@@subosgotit I did, and I'd like to know why the ATF goon didn't mention the fact that ATF quietly changed the definition of "ghost gun" to include guns that people have illegally removed the serial number on, to allow them to covertly manipulate statistics. Why wouldn't that be mentioned when they claim the number of crimes that "ghost guns" are used in are increasing? It's entirely dishonest to say that without mentioning they've just changed the definition in a way that substantially increased the number.
Most criminals don’t use “ghost guns” because making a gun requires actual work 😏
When they started adding stolen firearms with the serial numbers ground off to the "ghost gun" count... they need to get the real numbers of how many criminals built their own guns vs stolen with the serial numbers removed.
Sounds like you have all criminals labeled as lazy people. That’s far from true.
@@brkntires Thanks for the information. Didn't realize ground off serial numbers counted, but of course I'm not surprised.
... and democrat supporters hate doing any work. Just like their idols in DC avoid work at all costs. They prefer to steal.
@@ssherrierable Who cares? Lazy not lazy doesn't matter. They're all types of people for sure but the vast majority aren't 3D printing gun parts or skilled in engineering. That's more work than it is worth for someone with criminal intentions and the vast majority by every statistic in the world are dark and not very intelligent.
FYI its perfectly legal to manufacture firearms for personal use as long as you are not legally barred from owning a firearm.
This
Exactly - that's the problem.
See my comment on this video for clarification...
@@ImaCatMaia ghost gun are almost never used in crimes they just want to disarm all Americans most gun crimes are black on black but if you state the facts your labeled a racist but it’s a fact
@@ImaCatMaia I love your comment to 60Min, but I think it is perfectly fine that I can manufacture a firearm for personal use.
It has been since even before the ratification of the 2A. The numbers don't even add up as it is SUPER rare to die by a ghost gun. Just like an AR 15. But for some reason ghost guns and ARs are getting vilified.
The concept of allowing law enforcement agencies track and trace gun sales, point of sale, all previous owners, etc. doesn't stop in any way, shape, or form criminals from committing crimes with a firearm.
Putting them in a jail cell does!!!
@@eric647f unless you are in New York or Chicago then they just let the criminals go
@@eric647f FBI even admitted serial # on guns mean nothing and doesn't stop criminals. Criminal even remove serial numbers imagine that wow
@@eric647f But in order to put them in jail, they must commit the crime first?
Exactly. Criminals aren't selling their guns in buybacks, and they don't need to buy an 80% kit, they can print them, they can make them from scratch without a kit, they can buy them second hand from individuals. These gun hating people who live in high crime areas with strict gun laws, always want to say criminals are bringing them from other states, yet those other states have significantly less crime.
The Sheriff is a biased liar.
“California has the most restrictive gun laws in the country and yet is the epicenter of ghost guns”, what does that tell you?
It tells me that they used the wrong word - 'yet.' They needed to use 'thus.'
It tells me that their strict gun laws are working, just like the ban on drugs like fentanyl. How's that working for them?
They refuse to listen
Because they don't prosecute violent offenders, they catch and release...
It’s because of the illegal arms network setup by CA Senator Leland Yee and his peers in the CA Senate and Assembly, including Kamala Harris.
Homemade firearms have always been legal and a part of American 2A History all the way back to the founding of the nation. In fact, a lot of the firearms used in the revolutionary war were made by the colonists themselves.
What’s interesting is that even if they solved the ‘ghost gun’ problem they don’t do anything about violent criminals. When the DAs won’t get serious on career criminals but is more than willing to make an example of and prosecute the average citizen.
You need to pass a background check to get those kits. The videos aren't allowed on CZcams. Don't be fooled by the manipulation. Use your own brains people.
Da’s are weak so they can push more narratives.
And yet America has a higher level of incarceration than any country *in the entire world*
Even then, your average 17 or 18 year old does not have machinist ability nor equipment to complete these builds. Most of these kits take a certain amount of skill.
@@targetaps they can just save up and buy a gun mill
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Making a gun yourself, in your own home, is not in anyway interstate commerce. Regulation and restriction are not only infringement by a tyrannical overstep by our federal and state governments.
Preach
Yes, all gun laws are unconstitutional.
You " we " are interstate commerce the people are we are owned by the state money is made off us
@@rickiehawkes5665 come again?
@@rickiehawkes5665 I want to say you are wrong. However sadly it does seem the legislator treats us all as property.
"Skirting" the law? Yet then you say it is perfectly legal. No laws were ever "skirted". Home built firearms for personal use have been legal since before the USA was a country. Selling unserialized firearms is already illegal. Using a firearm to commit a crime is already illegal. They also like to say these can be built in an hour. Complete useless bullcrap.
exactly
I love how they didn't actually put the gun together to show how hard it actually is finish an operable kit
That's because it's just so very easy.... "I could but this thing is dumb - so I won't." ;-) or alternatively they are a "prohibited person" and if they did they'd be committing a crime
Exactly! I have said this same thing repeatedly on other forums on this subject. Once again, liberalism at it's finest! They never talk about the finished product and what it takes to complete!
@@bobisonline Have never heard a more true statement. I love doing different ar builds and since I live in a communist run liberal state I have to use polymer 80%. the amount of time it actually takes and knowledge is so far from being simple and easy. I wish just once the anti gun critics would actually be honest
I`ve heard of many people messing them up not building them right. Knowing how California is I would bet that better than half of those where seeded in by LEO to make the numbers look bad.
CZcams would take it down. Even 60 min can’t get away with instructing like that.
"Skirts most Federal Laws"
....
"All perfectly legal"
Pick one.
I like when they use the word "loophole", as if they are operating in the absence of law, but the fact is, it's written in law as being lawful, thuse not a loophole.
"All perfectly Constitutional."
It skirts the laws that haven't been passed.
Legal beagle
@@LeftCatcher well played.
6:33 you just stated the entire point that we’ve been trying to make… criminals don’t follow laws no matter how strict they are.
That sheriff is a liar hobbyists buy those! All the time and would represent the bulk of the ownership!!!
You can build a shotgun from items sold at LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT
You can build a cannon also
Muzzle loading line of sight recommended if you want to hit your target with more then a prayer
@@atakorkut5110 *me who builds a tiny crossbow out of office supplies*
:D
Sounds like fun
I go to Menard's - I get 11% off - but I'll likely forget to send in the rebate form....
It's tragic anytime someone is murdered. but what does that have to do with a serial number on a gun?
It means they get to charge fees 😉😉
@@fnkrodigaz1841 sad but true.
accountability
@@TheMarcosvolta How does this create accountability?
@@TheMarcosvolta It doesn't. Firearms with serial numbers can be privately transferred between people and not be documented. It's even legal in states to do this.
Serial Numbers are their attempt to track this.
“Build a ghost gun and no one knows you have it!” That’s the point. And I’m for it. Gov doesn’t need to know anything about me.
Doesn't the NFA ACT state that personally manufactured firearms are perfectly legal to make?
Manufacturing denotes entering into commerce which is regulated by the ATF, thou are likely looking for "make" "making" "made". Words matter. Also may want to learn the difference between "person" and a man or woman. Thou has a person, thou are not the person. May also want to stop using "you" and "me" haphazardly if you do. As ridiculous as it sounds "you" and "me" are words to describe thine person.
"The 'People', as far as the Constitution is concerned, does not include you and me." City Council of Baltimore, Barron V Mayor.
What kills more people, ghost guns or criminals with previous records that are released with little-to-no bail/bond?
It's both. One feeds into the other.
@@GreatBigRanz Why is it that Chicago, Illinois is one of the most restrictive cities on guns, yet has among the highest rates of shootings? Also, why do the surrounding areas that Politicians blame for guns in Chicago not have the same problem? It seems like the problem 1: Gangs who have turf wars
2: Socioeconomic/Family issues
3: Not holding criminals accountable
4: A mostly disarmed citizenry
@@GreatBigRanz Can you direct me to crime stats that involve the use of a "ghost gun". I would like to see what percentage of crime these were involved in.
Lock, stock and barrel. The right to build your own Firearm is older than the Constitution. An advantage to building your own Firearm is not having to pay the manufacturers tax that is added to store purchased firearms.
It has been perfectly legal for citizens to manufacture their own firearms since the inception of the Nation. The fact that most guns used in crime are mostly illegally obtained or stolen. 80% guns do not "skirt laws" because they are legal. Also, when statistics count a stolen gun with a filed off serial number as a "ghost gun" to give the impression that these guns are popular with criminals more than any other stolen or illegally obtained gun and give them an excuse to ban them. The fact that most guns used in crimes can only be traced to the ORIGINAL PURCHASER should be proof enough that registration is largely useless in solving crime.
Exactly. It's pretty wild when a govt employee who is supposed to be OUR employee, will fail to mention that they've changed the definition in a way that substantially increases the number, when citing that particular statistic, it can only be considered an employee lying to his employers. Time to defund the ATF that has murdered women, children, and shot countless family pets.
So in Saugus incident, they TOOK AWAY someone's legal guns, so the guy built a gun. The fact that Cslifornia has the MOST strict gun laws forcing people to turn to these shows that they are too strict otherwise they wouldn't be the epicenter
Plenty of cops own their own ghost guns as well.
Exactly but it's OK if they carry ghost guns because they think there above the law
Radio Shack use to be the local bomb making store back in the day with all the electronics and wires
Yup
Shout-Out to The Shack ✊
It is a constitutionally protected right to build and own your own firearm. Governmental oversight on this constitutional right is tyranny. And tyranny is exactly why we used guns to resist and defend our freedom from the British in the first place. We must defend our right and fight tyranny, domestic and foreign.
I'm with you on that sentiment 👍👍👍👍
Who gave the right in the 1st place. Government . Anti government is pretty much anti gun ..
@@l3tme545 You must have a pretty warped view of basic human rights and having the ability to protect yourself my friend.
@@brando6497 I said who gave government the rights. ? You can't have it both ways my guy . To talk down government is to talk down ur rights. If you dont trust government then why the heck would you give them the power of & ur to rights. You may say things have changed. I don't see how . We still have guns n bill of rights.
Let's be thankful that the government provides boths. Rather than this hateful anti government stances as of late..
@@l3tme545 Nobody gave the government the right. The government merely acknowledged the right of the people to keep and bear arms, and created a constitutionally protected right to uphold that. And putting restrictions/regulations on a constitutionally protected right is tyranny. Also, anti regulation is completely different than anti government. Nobody here said that they are anti government. You good bro?
"Shall not be infringed" really isn't that difficult of a concept to grasp.
Well you’ve seen them start changing definitions of words so if that gives you any indication on what’s to come
They want that erased from our constitution.
This is a 60 min. advertisement for Firearms .. this video will result in even more Firearms being bought one way or another!
Just as with most "political" things - they usually have an exact opposite result than what they intend. They look to restrict or ban something - people rush out and obtain that "thing" which they may not be able to have or "collect" / "hoard" those items.
or put another way "I didn't know about these before I saw this.... now I want one (or several)...."
@@Scotty_in_Ohio Yep .. right about all that!!
Just bought another roll of filament. Printer go Brrrrrr.
I never heard of these. I'm getting a couple.
don't blame you. if you get some silver bullets to go with, you can use them to shoot werewolves as well as ghosts....
@@billynomates920 so you don't like guns. So? I do. I don't know what tf that comment is supposed to mean.
Good luck with em, I really enjoyed building my first so far up up to 4 now
This episode is absolutely hilarious. Oh the fear mongering
1:47 ah yes, a 3D printer! Such a commonly available hand tool.
Can't stop the signal. ;)
that wasnt even 3d printed. it was molded plastic. lol
All those broken laws!!!! It’s like criminals don’t even care about breaking the law. If only there was a new law that could get criminals to follow the law 🤔
Amen, wonder how?!
Lol!
There could be... if you're a prohibited person, and you're caught with a gun... mandatory life in prison, no parole....no questions... next case please.
@@larryag99 lmao you’re wanting that many new lifers in our already bloated prison system?
@@haramsaddam238 I think the news would spread quickly amongst the criminal element in our society. There wouldn't be as many lifers as you suspect. They are not that stupid... they would probably switch to knives or baseball bats.
"It's virtually invisible to you in government"
Precisely.
Ghost guns are any guns without a serial number. This includes homemade guns and ones that have had serial numbers illegally removed. The ATF doesn't track numbers of these according to them
that shop owner made a very good point about the sale of cars and guns
So much for objective journalism
Did you just realize that?
At least 10 years too late with that comment
90 something percentage of journalists lean left in the modern time
Journalism is always objective. "Reporting the news" takes the bias out (or thats what it should do).
Even if you ban all guns the people committing the crimes will continue.
Not true at all, but u dont want to hear it anyway!
@@bdbbdb8437 Criminals dont follow laws genius.
@@bdbbdb8437
Just like you
@@bdbbdb8437 criminals by definition don't follow the law.
I’m sorry for this man’s pain and loss.
you mean his painfully hurt feelings and loss of common sense?
@@beater75dude his daughter was killed have some sympathy
Remember when CZcams said removing the dislike button was to protect small creators? That was a funny lie.
“I HAVE NO IDEA”
“I KNOW THEY ARE THE MINORITY OF GUNS USED IN CRIME”
Jesus
They forget to mention that the majority of "ghost guns" that are recovered... aren't homemade kits. They are ACTUAL industry made firearms with the serial number scratched off (which BT DUBS... is a FELONY in of itself)
Way to go guys 😁👍
GANGS! That was the KEY word in the opening. Everyone focus' on GUNS when the real focus should be on the GANGS!
Wait what? Holding individuals accountable for their actions? You mean actually looking at underlying societal ills and find common sense solutions for them before people feel they need to commit crimes? Would't you rather blame the tool? It's much easier and doesn't make you look like such a far right extremist and racist.
But thats racist...
@@tylermallory2504 Kinda is, but it's racist in a sense that 50-60-70 years of failed Democratic policy has segregated them into plantations of the mind. Trillions of dollars in funds has been thrown into marginalised communities of colour. There are programmes made available that are vastly under utilised. It's easier to bang on the streets than it is to finish school.
And culture
@Hugo Boss the basketball dribbling American not making the guns it’s the 💦 backs and the ice people !
You can 3d print them, you can buy stuff from Home Depot and make a slam fire shotgun. It’s not really possible to regulate it. A firearm has to be defined for laws to be effective, simply make something that falls out that definition and it is not a gun. No matter what you do there will always be a work around. Ban anything you want and someone will find a way around it.
Please do a segment on mental illness in the USA, and how it causes people to want to commit mass murders and why the laws aren't enforced when people are set free for violent crimes and allowed to commit more violent crimes...
They don`t want to get into that sector because it may cause the removal of some politicians in the long run.
Try getting interviews with people who actually build custom competition guns OR fancy, hyper expensive, one of kind guns from scratch, then make a 13minute clip with more accurate truths .
It's a hit piece mostly sponsored by politicians. Their job is to scare as many people into believing "ghost guns" are scary and evil.
Just goes to show you that criminals will break the law no matter what or how many laws we put in place.
America was founded on breaking the law!
it's not against the law they just decided to reinterpret the law as making these parts kits count as complete firearms
And that the term of a criminal. If they're gonna break a law, they not going to respect any other laws as well.
how dare you state facts
Ghost gun is just a term to scare people. It's also always been legal to build your own gun for personal use, you just can't sell it. It's not something any can just do. When you buy the parts they come milled but you still have to do all the riveting, lathing, head spacing, etc. You need an advanced knowledge of gun smithing to put it together and takes a professional weeks to months to assemble it. You need access to a machine shop to make one. It's not as easy as media makes it out to be.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Let me repeat, "Shall NOT Be Infringed." And that applies to military weapons. What good is a militia if they don't have same weapons as standing military? It's for the security of a free state.
Criminals are not infringed by any law, or serial numbers. Besides, who would feel safe, unarmed, with agencies like the Rouge ATF.... Shooting dogs, ppl, and raiding ppl for items bought legally. Just because, they decide to change definitions doesn't change your rights. They don't make laws. ATF agents cannot be sued now either. See where this is going? Red flag laws and all....
I love the ATF.. it don't get no realer than that.
@@l3tme545 love em huh? Lol
@@phillip_james77 yup. . Only thing I love more is the FBI. But don't tell the ATF that 🤣.
@@l3tme545 hahaha... I won't tell! No drama needed, they cause quite enough!
I don’t understand why people brand a weapon the “problem” instead of the psycho that used them to cause harm.
I’m sorry to all those affected by something these psychos did but you’re going about it the wrong way
God Bless All
Because things are getting worse
Cause if they actually investigate what's going on they would find out its mainly mental health issues and the main cause would be the pharmaceutical that person is on
@@not-special Escalation of crime as Districts Attorney and prosecutors release violent criminals back on the street to commit more crime. Asians are buying guns at an increased rate due to racial assaults, robberies and muggings.
Because you can't outlaw people
Because the Feds want to CONTROL the population and IMPOSE the "great reset"...you know..."you
will OWN NOTHING and be happy". Would YOU be happy having your stuff taken away and given bugs
to eat?
but yet homemade Firearms are completely legal to make at home
When the court system doesn't listen or do its job right at a state level of course a plea for help can turn deadly
You’ve heard “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”
But the reality is “the ability of the people to MAKE and HIDE arms CANNOT be stopped”
That’s reality. Like it or hate it, you cannot change it. Deal with it.
I’ve never heard of ghost guns until now.
Biden was talking about Ghost gun's awhile back
I've only ever been hearing 3D Guns called "Ghost Guns" whenever they politics enters the conversation.
You were missing out.
"Ghost gun" is a term that conflates stolen guns with serial numbers scratched off, and homemade guns that do not require a serial number together.
The advantage to a home made gun is the fact you don't ask government permission, or add yourself to a government list to own it.
This means things like the hurricane katrina gun confiscation won't happen to you. You can't be targeted by arbitrary government fees for gun ownership like a certain mayor in california wanted to impose. You don't have to ask the government for permission to pass down your guns to your next of kin.
The objective of the government is to be the sole middleman between the people, and firearms. The government does not want ANYONE to have a gun they don't know about in order to impose registries, fees, and confiscation by force.
To accomplish that, they conflate home made guns with stolen guns to make it look like a public safety threat to make their attack on home gun building seem sincere, when in truth, it's just a method to make sure they have that much more control over the people.
Companies like polymer 80, and 80% arms have been making home gun building more accessible, and have been selling kits to do so since ~2016 with the ATF's blessing. It's only NOW it has become a talking point, and a political target as politicians notice people are ignoring their gun rights infringement attempts buy building their own.
Good thing too! Now you're safe! somehow.
@@maryfragain4812 biden is himself a ghost
Says it skirts the laws but then says it's legal... If it's legal it's not skirting any laws
No, the gun skirts the laws by being legal despite being shipped out to people who cannot own controlled guns.
@@davideaton6733 except its not legal for them. People who are prohibited from owning firearms are also prohibited from making their own.
@@davideaton6733 you can't stop criminals from getting guns they want it they'll get it one way or another. The 80% firearms make no difference. Honestly it more risky for them especially if they are buying the parts now they can be tracked from their purchases. Why do that when they can steal a gun? No paper trail.
This bs ban helps nothing but allows the government to forceably track people they see as undesirables. Because they refuse to be controlled by the corrupt machine. Because they can fight back......you know where I'm going with this so I don't need to continue
That's because what the ATF says is legal / not legal changes with the weather (or should I say climate). Put another way just when you've changed the hem of the skirt the style changes and you have to let it out or take it up again. The reason why most "enthusiasts" don't generally deal with these things is two fold: They're typically not very reliable (and thus not good if/when you'd need to depend on them) and getting much better parts (that may need to be purchased via a FFL) are in some cases less expensive and have manufacturer support. While I support the DIY approach I wouldn't use a fully self built firearm either in competition or especially not as a self-defense piece - the lawyers would go nuts.
It skirts the laws because it allows felons an easy avenue to get a gun that they otherwise would not have. They can buy the kit legally and until they put it together they haven't broken the law but we all know that felons don't obey laws.
Make 80% lowers illegal and criminals will just resort to 3D printers. The technology is getting inexpensive.
A serial number on a firearm doesn't stop a crime.
Lmao 60 mins is definitely TGIF must see tv! Comedy like you've never seen before!!
It's funny because these ghosts frames have letters of approval from the ATF just like the bump stocks and braces
Here in the Philippines, in some areas in Cebu gunsmith are illegally manufacturing guns right in their backyards and it not even a secret to their community its widely known who are the people doing this kind of works, and it is happening in such a long time because this trade has been pass on from generation to generation, there was also a time when the government gave licenses to some illegal manufacturer to prevent or control rampant counterfeiting of firearms.
So, do criminals regularly leave the serial number to the gun used at a crime scene? How would serial numbers on a gun make tracking down the criminal easier?
@Andy Lovett please use the C.A.R.S. Checklist research method to verify the accuracy & validity of the information you have now and what you gather in the future - especially regarding the U.S. Constitution, and the 2nd Amendment in particular. That Checklist is great because it is so vital & applicable to understanding how we disseminate information in our current U.S. society that it was actually required for the research methodology courses I took. Not only is it a simple & relatively rapid way to make sure your information is factual, but also it was specifically developed for use with information that is found online.
Secondly, to 60 Minutes - beginning at time stamp 8:36 what is your reasoning behind how you define, classify, and separate "terrorism" and "white supremacy"?? They are one and the same - even according to the official statements of the FBI itself. Please consider the fact that doing this does, and further will, reinforce division in our country. You are reinforcing division in this piece by promoting the erroneous stigmas of those who would choose to demonize any particular attack as more egregious than the other and/or any particular perpetrator to be feared more than the other based on these current societal stigmas. That is objectively NOT journalism. That is repeating political talking points as valid, distinct, and factual information - which, by definition, isn't journalism. Your actions in this regard undermine the trustworthiness of this program and your "news" network as a whole. All of the latest polls in the last several years are showing that the level of trust the American populace has in our news media has been continuing to decrease and is now at historic lows. This has been happening continuously for at least the last 20 years. Please be part of the solution to that problem, or division will most certainly rise to levels that are guaranteed to topple democracy and our country in itself. The media's disingenuous coverage of these very important topics is absolutely shameful and is a global embarrassment. Do better.
Dude way to long brother. The first part was good enough
In other words!
60min is full of shyte.
Well said.
"Ghost Guns" also mostly includes guns that have their serial numbers filed off.
You cannot file a serial number off.
No , those would be ' stolen ' guns .
@@sigmaforge5088 yes, yes you can
@@sigmaforge5088 hahahahaha yes you can
Indeed you can deface the serial # making it a “ghost gun”
Where in the 2nd Amendment does it state you cannot arm yourself with your own ghost gun?
I can’t find this anywhere on their site. Is it still sold? Is it the same as the SB Tactical FS 1913? I bought a SB BTFA folding adapter and I can’t mount it due to a piece welded to the receiver
A stolen gun with obliterated serial numbers (think old school movie gangsters) is exactly the same thing.
Highly mistaken bud
Agree 💯💯💯💯
@@LegallyReckless no, police actually use the term ghost gun to describe any firearm that does not have a serial number even those which have been removed. Vastly inflating the number of actual ghost guns in crimes
@@Razor-gx2dq very true but a ghost gun isnt the same as a stolen gun. I can legally carry my home made firearm without a serial number vs if i had a gun with a obliterated serial they would instantly lock me up for it because its against the law
A legitimately built firearm without a serial is completely legal depending on your state laws
@Blake Childers so, if you can come up with a cogent argument that guns without serial numbers are different from each other, have at it.
Criminals are not going to go through all the trouble to build a gun. It's far more easy, cheaper and quicker to steal one from a vehicle or home. That's a fact.
No they actually will and I say that as a huge 2A advocate. If you just type in "p80" to youtube you'll see a whole bunch of similar looking people encouraging felons to go the 80% route
It might also have to do with the crime(s) the person(s) was going to commit.
They might have the skills and such to assemble. Or pay someone else to assemble.
****It probably says: some assembly required.
@@dianahill5116 that makes absolutely no sense, a criminal will just go wherever they think the can steal any guns and eventually they will get exactly what they need. Handgun, rifle, shotgun
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Criminals will steal jewelry, vehicles, money, documents and anything of value; from whomever they want.
@@dianahill5116 exactly!
“It’s virtually invisible to the government.” Yea that kind of the point
Anyone who has built their own AR rifle knows if you buy a complete, 100% lower it goes through the purchase process as a serialized complete gun even though it is a stripped lower ( no, safety, stock, fire control group). 80% lowers (not milled) MUST be serialized upon completion. Criminals again knowingly violate gun laws by not serializing the weapon once completed, just like school shooter knowingly violate “Gun Free Zone” ordinances when they shoot up a school. Do we see the pattern here? Ghost Gun is a made up media term to scare the public, just like Assault Rifle and High Capacity Magazine
Most criminals don't bother with the work involved in milling the lower and shelling out 3 to 4 figures for all the parts to put it together. They just steal them, or buy them off the street illegally, from other criminals or unknowing vendors.
Your 80 percent lower does not require serialization upon completion. You can create your own unserialized firearm as long as it is for personal use and never transfers ownership...
im 20 seconds in and I can already tell this is going to be hilariously biased by 60 minutes
All the stupid gun laws around makes this possible. It's called American ingenuity.
@Hugo Boss I totally agree
Hope you don't live in Calif
perfectly legal "objective & well researched" story full of lies. Is the pen or video in this case mightier than the sword or firearm?
A ghost with a gun is really scary
That's the way blame the tool used not the person using the tool. A fire arm ,any fire arm is an "inanimate object" it takes a person to operate it just like a car or a hammer or a knife.
60 Minutes: "And how many crimes are being committed by these guns? You have no idea?"
Objection: "Leading the witness."
Judge: "Overruled."
Objection: "Inanimate objects can't commit crimes."
Judge: "Sustained.'
hope the judge in uvalde feels the same way. i heard they are suing daniel defence for making the gun that was used in the atrocity.
Why didn’t they show him putting the Glock together if it’s so easy???
Every home owner should have one
Well with all the unlawful laws they are making concerning guns that are unconstitutional, I bet ya many law abiding citizens also own ghost guns
Feds wanna put a serial number on your plastic so they can tax it, not to keep em out the wrong hands 🤦🏽♂️
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All guns should be "ghost guns" there is no reason to put a serial number on a 4473 after a background check is done. There is no reason to trace a gun, criminals find guns all the time and just file numbers off if they want. 6:54 for every confiscated gun that sheriff is pointing out there are thousands, possibly millions that will never need to be taken. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't want to be the only one in a room without a gun
I have a lot of ghosts where I live, I could really use one of those ghost guns.
I love it how 60 Minutes always acts like they're the last one to the party like this is some kind of big news people have been making guns in their garages and in their little metal shops forever the first guns ever made homemade guns they weren't manufactured by Smith & Wesson Smith & Wesson with some guy who was making guns in his garage and then he made a company that's how it starts we are provided the right to defend ourselves and if you can't afford to go down and buy one of the gun shop you're more than welcome to make one in your home if you can do it safely and then you're required to register it if it's a legitimate firearm unless it's black powder I don't think you have to register black powder but if you're going to manufacture some kind of modern semi-automatic firearm and carry it with you and have it in a state you have to have it registered all this modern hubbub with the ghost guns now is because you let criminals get emboldened and acting out against law enforcement if you were to penalize these people properly this stuff wouldn't be happening cuz they would know that they're looking at 20 years if they use this gun and they're going to be prosecuted right now you're giving everybody the revolving door of the legal system under Joe Biden and nobody gives a s*** if they're killing cops or killing your little kid on the way to school because they don't go to jail they get out on halftime and probation
Imagine how bummed 60 minutes and the ATF would be if they found out you can build a firearm with $12 and trip to Home Depot
$500 for a ghost gun?! You could have made a fleet of pipe shotguns.
people have been making there own guns forever & criminals aren’t using them that often. put a bulletproof panel in the back pack
What's the differance,,, stolen gun or ghost gun????? The "good guy with a gun" more than likely has a "legal" firearm ... The "bad guy with a gun" is not going to have a "legal" firearm anyway...
Exactly! It's annoying when they equate 3D Guns unserilized* to these crooks and have them being tied into base unregistered weapons. Put tighter laws on these scumbags, not the people that love the niche that Is printed guns in the gun community. They're doing more harm than good.
@@yeejay6396 the thing is is that more laws won't solve anything.
@@PrecisionDan Really doesn't. Convolution doesn't solve preexisting issues.
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Yeah the liberal media tool has gotten really annoying, to say the least.
@@GS-zc4sk I grew up around firearms. And I have soft spot for knives and the like because I fk d them to be useful tools for alot of things. But I really fear that up until I make my very first gun purchase, that laws will be so restricted, that I'll only be able to purchase, fire and keep at the gun shop on visitation only. Dystopic to the point where even a CCW is out of the picture for us civies. May God help us all.
"I aint afraid of no ghost".
Also that sheriff has a remarkable memory when he knew how every firearm on that table was confiscated by just looking at them.🤔
This whole "ghost gun" B S has really taken off in the last couple of years. All a gun is is a pipe.. The term "ghost gun" was defined back in the 1980s when they where trying to ban guns that could pass metal detectors and x-ray machines. The plastic and ceramic guns would pass by the x ray machine a produce a "ghostly" image on the screen, hence the name "ghost gun."
It has always been legal to make your own guns at home. Even if the government doesn't want you to have a gun no one will know you have one until either someone rats on you or you do your evil deed. All a gun is is a pipe. You can go down to the hardware store and buy some plumbing pipe and have yourself a muzzleloader. Phillip Luty proved this back in 1996 with his homemade submachine gun, which he wrote a book about. The point he made was lost on almost anyone, all they did was increase his sentence and make an example out of him. They never thought that gun laws don't work on criminals.
Maybe instead of focusing so much on the tools criminals use to commit their evil deeds maybe reforming our schools and raising our children right would fix the issues we are having with crime and mental illness we are seeing today.
A long time ago this wasn't even an issue people would take their kids to school and they would have a gun rack in the back of their trucks. A father would give his 10 year old son a .22 rifle for his birthday and teach him to shoot and nobody thought otherwise. Most people never thought about gun control as something we really needed to worry about as opposed to just criminals. Now everybody is trying to lock down on guns like the criminal doesn't exist anymore. It doesn't help that they are just letting these people out on no bail laws.
Tupperware was popular in the late 70's through the mid 80's The Glock was developed in the late 70's and introduced to the market in the early 80's - coincidence? I think NOT! When this "story" was published Gaston Glock was 90 years old - some plastics melt at 90 degrees C - coincidence? I think NOT - Gaston isn't a ghost yet (he's 93 as of July) so therefore Glocks cannot be "ghost guns"
All joking aside you're spot on - use "scary" words like "ghost guns", "assault weapon", "Saturday Night Special" (not to be confused with Saturday Night Live) and the public's lack of knowledge about the topic or the mass-confusion coming out of the federal agencies like the ATF and the majority of people just give up on trying to discern the truth...
lmao free men dont ask, if you are free don’t fear goverment
Gotta love American traditions ... keep it up patriots!🇺🇲
So, what about the ghost guns that are in the hands of law-abiding citizens? What about the lives saved and protection offered to law abiding citizens by ghost guns?
I heard you can lubricate the bolt on a ghost gun with leftist tears.
To all the blue hairs reading this, ghost guns, "un cerealized gun" are 100% legal to build and own and are and should be protected under the 2nd amendment..
hopeless
Are you insane?
'Cerealized'? Like, they don't shoot cheerios? Huh?
It is against federal law to maintain a federal gun registry, so the BATF doesn't know how many serial numbered guns or ghost guns anyone has. Maybe, just maybe, if governments didn't use registration as a precursor to confiscation, then registration wouldn't be an issue. Meanwhile, hundreds of millions of guns in circulation and only a small percentage is used in crime.
Must be a really good camera 60 minutes is using because that invisible gun is quite visible to me on the screen.
No infringement at all on #2 freedom for all.
Fear mongers story… don’t vote w/ emotions and feelings people 🤦🏽♂️😂
At the time of this report a new Federal Rule was suppose to go into effect that requires all of these kits to have serial numbers.
People seem to forget that a ghost gun is also a gun with a scratched off serial number as well. The more you know, the better.
For anyone wondering what the shop in Cali is called, it’s “firearms unknown”
Great place. Highly recommend
Act now, they have a new discount code: 60
Loud mouth now the Brady people are headed that dude way.
@@stretchedout6600 lol. They know about them already