I Bought A High-End Gaming Monitor From Aliexpress...
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2024
- Is buying a high-end gaming monitor off Aliexpress worth it?
Link to the monitor, which you probably shouldn't buy, apparently the seller doesn't help out with dead pixels: www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
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Careful with the eldritch horrors at 6:28, it's hard to keep them out of the editing software
bruh i tought my gpu was artifacting xd
Bro I was like did my monitor just glitch.
Some words were definitely edited out.
@@pretizco3679 Same LOL, I had to rewind to make sure.
you know that feeling when you bought really tasty priced gpu during aftermath of crypto gold rush a year ago, slapped a waterblock on it (bye-bye warranty) and you see this? this feeling is called HEART ATTACK GOD DAMMIT.
you can test the dimming zones by playing a video of a white bar going across the screen.
For ghosting/motion blur, you can use ufo test.
The fact they're not included in this video seems extremely lazy
Right, and it would also show whether it actually works at all. Pretty major thing to leave out imo
@@eat5827 its a for fun channel, not a serious review thing
You know those tests arent really any good right? Like they're basically meaningless and every major youtuber will just add in subjective results to the tests anyways making it just a waste of everyone's time.
@@eat5827 Remember his CRT videos? As much as I enjoy his content Dawid doesn't always do himself justice by, you know, preparing properly with a bit of homework.
I think the main problem with OLED technology and monitors right now is the manufacturers are terrified of burn in so they under crank the brightness.
true, i have the exact same OLED monitor he used in the video, and yeah the brightness isnt great, but my god it just looks so good anyways, going from a TN panel to this was such and upgrade ill take the lower brightness.
Manufacturers are terrified that customers would be terrified*
I'd take less brightness, over expensive monitor that needs replacing every few years
For good reason. My LG OLED TV got (very faint) burn in after 6 months, and after 2 years it was ruined. Bad time to find out LG doesn't cover burn in on the warranty.
@@DSS553hit them under the lemon policy.. or buy a good in-store warranty as this could lead to a free upgrade if the monitor goes out of production.
Usual trick with OLED would be to have two monitors. OLED for movies and gaming (without static elements) , and plain regular IPS for plain old office and browsing tasks 😉
I'm just really impressed by the stand and how you can rotate the monitor around and stuff. That is not a level of usability I'd expect from some random company on AliExpress.
My expensive LG monitor's stand cannot even do all of that 🤣
My monitor was like £300 in 2020 and all the stand does is tilt the screen up or down, keep telling myself to get a third party stand but never do it. I just put a book under the feet and it lifted it up enough.
@@gintozlato1880 My curved LG ultrawide's stand doesn't swivel, rotate, or even height adjust. Honestly, it BARELY holds the monitor. I wonder if Titan Army just sells the stand. I like the orange cable glory hole.
And it takes up LESS space than the vshaped monitor stands that most monitors have
The range of motions makes me thing they took a good look at Dell monitor stands :D
Did you check if local dimming was turned on? That might explain why you didn't see any halos around bright objects and also noticed IPS glow, which should only be present if the backlight is actually on (which it shouldn't be for large black areas).
There does seem to be a brighter zone around the mouse cursor at 6:18 and the measured contrast levels are clearly too high for native IPS panel, though it's questionable what level/setting the backlight was on.
New Zealand and Australia use that power plug.
But upside down 🙃
Cut it and you got universe plug 👍
So does China
@@Tyomas1983that's because we're upside down
really handy when buying stuff off chinese websites
Also in New Zealand 🇳🇿 you can buy this brand in a local computer store. PB tech! I have one for the last 3 years. It has a cool function where you can connect two HDMI’s and run it as two separate monitors!
They are at the heart LG and Samsung panels with a white label brand but they can be a bit colour inaccurate
Russia too
oh ok
I thought Titan Army sounded familiar, I always thought they were only a PB Tech thing.
yeah i was wondering if it was the same brand. i think the panels they use are ones rejected by Samsung QC so it can be very hit and miss if the one you buy is any good
That moment when Aliexpress monitors come far more accurately pre-calibrated than most monitors twice its price... 😬
Yet you still need to adjust things so it's ultimately pointless
Not really when it's half the price?
I know for a fact that some of the "better" HP monitors do come with the sheet for testing before shipping. We got some of their Z monitors in and they all had a few pre-calibrated sheets with them.
you never run out of content as long as u have aliexpress lmao
And I love it 😂😂
Lmao
Don't forget that you can also benefit from buying a high-end monitor off of Facebook marketplace. Just make sure to test it for dead pixels and other anomalies.
How do you benefit? By making the numbers in your bank account smaller and getting almost nothing in return, while having to deal with assbags that use Facebook?
@@Those_Weirdospeople could very well be selling their old monitors for cheap to get them out after upgrading
Not sure that’s a good idea. Displays can die too
FB marketplace is a joke...
ive sold all my great spare parts for good prices after upgrading on the fb marketplace,not everyone is a d bag scammer
I wish there were actual Aliexpress/Temu stores to shop at that offer all the random things they sell online... I would get a part time job to spend all of my money there.
Lmfao
Funny enough we actually have something like that in the Netherlands. The store is called “action” and its basically AliExpress in real life lol. Unfortunately it isn’t quite as big as the online AliExpress, wish and temu stuff of course
It'd be fun, yeah. There's a lot of wonky things that don't work, but also a lot of wonky things that do. It really helps the product selection to have the world's largest Ewaste-repurposing city plugged into the backend of the platform's pipeline.
a fool and his money and so forth
Yay! More cheap Chinese garbage! Buy it all!
INNOCN monitor is well reviewed, and this is just a rebranded version.
The question with Aliexpress is are you getting what you buy.
This isn't a rebranded INNOCN, but it is using the same monitor chassis as the INNOCN 27M2V. They are both mini-LED, but the INNOCN 27M2V is 4K with 1152 dimming zones rather than the 1440p monitor with 384 dimming zones shown in this video.
I own a INNOCN 32M2V and it's an excellent HDR monitor.
INNOCN is its own brand. Titan Army is another shittier company that makes monitors for Xiaomi/Redmi.
Time travelling at 6:29 😂
This brand is actually vastly available in SEA I believe, and actually has a very decent reputation over here (currently residing in Malaysia)
I have to admit, the one thing that I like the most of this monitor is the looks of it from the back. It feels so good to see a non black modern monitor, that's from the front. Because from the back they are ever rarer. This silver and orange one...and I am not saying it just because I love orange, is beautiful.
Yes ok the plastic can be felt through the internet, but still I would love to have one that looked like that.
Thanks for the video.
Depending on the panel, the processing and the dimming performance, mini LED panels can be very good and put up a decent fight against full fat OLEDs. I have a TCL mini LED TV and it's a great compromise between price, size and performance. It's a very solid technology in the right unit.
i wish you would have discussed the rear side lighting of the back of the panel
Im so happy Dawid is back! I love your content.
It would have been interesting to know how much you'd have to turn down the Mini-LED display to match the max brightness of the OLED and what that did to the overall image quality, in terms of colours/blacks.
Happy new year Dawid, great work.
Happy New Year. Love the vids. 🙂
Hi David; I am not sure how much attention you pay to the supplied plug adapter, but similar ones I have received are insanely dangerous; the in/out copper connects by TOUCHING, held together by the tightness of the screws holding the adapter together.
If those screws arent tight, or come loose over time, the copper connections will also loosen, and you are facing potential arc-ing/towering inferno situations.
I throw all mine away, cut off the Chinese market plug, and fit a proper one - in my case the UK plug; even the cheapest, nastiest, Chinese sweatshop made UK plug is a billion times better than the adapters I have received (but I use MK branded plugs anyway).
Second comment, but you mentioned that you can still see the dimming zones. Personally, I held out on getting a MiniLED until I saw the monitor I have now (Cooler Master GP27FUS) with over 500 dimming zones @ 27" the zones are almost half the size as this Titan Army one (and its 4K 160hz 1450nits) they're pretty small and I LOVE the black levels on the display and since the zones are so small the halo effect isn't all that noticeable.
Though I heard about the upcoming REDMAGIC 27" 4K MiniLED which has 5088 dimming zones - me thinks this is the holy grail before OLED and probably my next monitor!
Would've been cool to see you trying out some HDR gaming on it (if you didn't), as far as I understand that's probably where a monitor like this would benefit most from its high brightness.
I've noticed that a lot of Chinese electronics have skyrocketed in quality over the past couple of years. A while back you wouldn't catch me dead looking at their peripherals; now I legitimately consider them when making budget purchases. I honestly look forward to what a lot of these companies will put out in the near future.
I remember years ago when oppo phones were releasing they said chinese brands are trying to get into the market with top quality tech & fast forward a few years oppo is one of the top phone brands each year as well as lenovo dominating in the PC department. interesting to see what another 10 years has to show
@@makuIaLenovo was long before as well, to this day their only good computers come from talent bought in the IBM computer division buyout almost 20 years ago
You guys don't even get to see the really nice low cost stuff outside China. This monitor is actually only about $240 in the mainland and I just picked up a 34" 4k 165hz ultrawide for $220 that has similar performance.
Lol not really
@@makuIaWhat you're talking about is what Huawei and loongson are doing.
HAPPY NEW YEAR U POSTED HELL YEAAA
Many moons ago, I bought a 27in 1440p monitor direct from the factory in Korea via eBay. Hands down one of the best monitors I have ever owned, and finally got replaced only a few months back by a 4K panel for no reason other than a lack of Dual-Link DVI outputs on modern video cards. I still have the monitor and an older video card to drive it.
DVI and HDMI are electronically compatible. You can very cheaply adapt HDMI out to DVI in or visa versa
I also bought a super cheap 27 inch 1440p monitor like 4 years ago from a company called pixio. They had by far The cheapest 1440p 165hz at the time and it's bloody brilliant. Hasn't let me down and it's powered on for like 12 hours a day.
@@brucethen 1440p high speed HDMI is not electrically compatible with 1440p dual link DVI.
@nyanpasu64 Only because of the speed and signalling protocol, I'm sure if DVI is connected, the transmitting or receiving end will drop back.
The impression I get is that the monitor is DVI so will not support high speed HDMI and high speed HDMI is not required, thus a £10 HDMI TO DVI adapter will do the required job to continue to use the monitor
@@brucethen Well you won't get a 1440p DVI panel's native resolution with a passive HDMI to DVI cable. There's, well, DP to dual link DVI active converters, and you can buy a HDMI to DP converter, because apparently people haven't been able to find HDMI to dual link DVI splitters directly.
Great video Dawid, did you notice the thin bezel wasn't that thin, as you had a 5-7mm black edge all the way round! Have you tried to expand it to the edges?
I have an LG with peak HDR brightness of 1500 nits. I had to get a service remote to disable the auto dimming BS...but after doing that it's been excellent. Had it for 2 years and no issues, no burn in. Just a great screen.
I can only play relaxed in 80-100% dark room(blinds closed), so the oled brigthness is a non issue,the only problem is that the plants are dieing and my wife keeps crying that shes tired of staying in the dark
Backlight the wife?
@@MoultrieGeek :))
You should buy a mini LED VA panel, it fits the mini LED better.
Happy new year my man
Honestly I'd choose higher brightness than deep OLED dark. It's just better for certain workload I have.
I also want a second Sun in my room.
the font on the monitor is literally titanfall's font, its just a little smoothed around the edges
IPS poor contrast was the reason I used VAs for so long, until I got my qd-oled, now its like I put the glasses from "They Live" on, and I can never go back.
that would be too bright for me bro! i thought it was also funny that your keyboard was having a stroke with the lights towards the end of the video! anyway love your content bro! 😃👍
I recently bought a second mini-LED monitor from a small brand. The first unit cost me about USD700, almost 1/6 the price compared to the Dell model with the same panel. Really appreciate the existence of these manufactures. XD
Visual glitch at 6:28
the 1st gen qd-oleds already have insane peak brightness. 1000 nits in a small window, dimming as the overall screen gets brighter, but it's still plenty bright. i've had the alienware DWF for over a year and i don't keep it at max brightness cuz it gets squinting bright. night time scenes are breathtaking.
VA is much better than IPS for MiniLED. Wonder if that monitor comes with a VA panel too.
I had this exact monitor, it is look good when gaming and i found no black light bleed problem but yes its is too damn bright
I have to adjust to 30% brightness and contrast to feel comfortable when not gaming
4:02 - we’ve near identical Persian rug designs.
Were you & Ana both JETs in Japan?
Thanks for catering to my interests.
I’d love to see you compare an Xbox X to a comparable cost Mini PC (Ryzen/Radeon Graphics) to determine which is the Gameriest Solution.
Here in the South Pacific, Titan Army is a pretty common brand. We get a lot of the Chinesium brands for phones and TVs as well.
I see you have the Corsair Xeneon 240Hz OLED monitor in the description. I’ve been planning on getting the 45” bendable Flex model, but would a top of the line 27” be better visually, especially clarity wise than my current entry level 32” 1440p 165Hz monitor?
I'm always curious about this monitor . locally you can find it here in Malaysia for around 386usd . thank you for making this video. btw they also make a 32" 4k version of this monitor for 780usd.
There’s a retailer in NZ that imports Titan army stuff. It’s generally Samsung panels that failed qc for some reason or another, but they are great value for money.
Also “struggle but in an interesting way” should be the tagline for this channel
Too true :)
When I saw you going through the setup for Tarkov I was like "wtf man", but then I saw the snow...
This was exactly my experience buying the ktc m27p20 pro. it is a decent monitor as well
Happy new year Dawid
This is similar to the KTC M27T20. I tried it out, but returned it bc I was too annoyed by the smearing and lack of black uniformity. I should've known better bc I never liked VA panels.
Great to see you’re back Dawid.
I personally am patiently waiting for Mini-LED to have per pixels backlighting like you said in the video and i think that would be an end game monitor if i'm not mistaken.
The problem with HDR monitors is most basically lie about their specs, and there's a lot of confusion on how HDR works. just cause a display says it's capable of 1000nits, doesn't mean it can do that where it matters. You also may not have seen any blooming cause the display may not at default had local dimming enabled.
There's a tool i made called "HDR Demo" you can find on itch that's intended to clear up how this stuff works. And also give some good tests so you can understand a displays capabilities.
1:03
look s like that is a really universal adapter, i would skip the sketchy wall adapter, and just use a new clover wall cable
U can try hisense gaming monitor with similar properties and mini led. Maybe u can try to compare with this? If u can get it
Would you try crazy mechnical keyboard designs?
I would so love to get a miniLED monitor! The issue is that there aren’t that many options for ultrawides that doesn’t cost $2,000 and isn’t 49”.
Is there a menu item for „Local Dimming“? That should be enabled, because only then the 284 dimming zones will work. In the scene with your measuring equipment, the whole screen was light up. That should not be the case with a MiniLED-screen. My LG MiniLED-TV has such a menu item and it changes the picture A LOT.
Looking forward to the next vid! ❤️
Every Dawid video makes me feel like im on a tech spring break for the first time every time.
The Titan Army looks like it's basically the exact same casing as the INNOCN Mini-Led Monitors off of amazon, only difference is that they have their logo on the bottom of the bezel and a different resolution/fewer dimming zones
I have a 576 local dimming backlight and the only game that struggles is night time flying in flight simulator. That said I can choose medium or low local dimming setting to help out
Dude I missed you!
I'm serious when I say that your videos make my day much better. Thanks
I am 99% sure Acer sells this same monitor as the Nitro XV275U P3biipx. The native contrast you measured means it has the same VA panel. So if you want this monitor for like half the price buy that.
You should look into the hisense u7 65" mini led TV, 144 hz, gaming mode, sub woofer, only $750 from best buy. I'm going to get it for my new living room
I think this is just a older version of the innocn monitors literally same design down to the minute details, probably came from the same factory. their current offerings ups the LEDs to 1152 zones (and available in 4k).
so basically, i'd go buy the innocn which has been plenty reviewed online and is fairly reputable as a decent but cheaper than competitor brand rather than some unknown brand off of aliexpress.
Love ya dawid, you make some funny content.
happy New Year!!!!
I am using a titan army 144hz monitor since January 2021. It's doing pretty good so far.😊
The word in red on the box means: out of region, for them to identify parcel to send oversea.
I have a pg27aqdm, I bought it a couple of months ago, now it just sits and collects dust, since I don’t use it. It makes eyes very tired and strained, they become red, dry and you feel discomfort, and nothing can be done about it. Now I switched back to my old pg27uq, my eyes thanked me very much. Who wants to buy an OLED monitor for games, think about your eyesight, at least with the Asus PG27aqdm it is very straining on the eyes, so for games I think the best choice would be an IPS with a fald
Marking on the box, 外区 literally says “for foreign market”, hence the English calibration sheet and English OSD.
From where I'm sitting, the response time looked very low. There seemed to be a lot more motion blur than I experience on my Asus PG279Q 27-inch G-Sync, IPS, 165 Hz, 2560 x 1440 Gaming monitor.
Well there's a bunch of words I never expected to see together.
The VESA stand included with my sub-$300 LG feels sturdy enough to support my weight and I'm 245lb (110kg, 14St 7lb)
Cable isn't just for China as Australia has the same pin layout as that shown.
What about the AOC Q27G3XMN 27" QHD 2560x1440 Gaming Monitor? Its a VA panel with mini-led backlights for only $280 on Amazon.
5:21 - Looks like the top left corner might have another issue with local dimming going on.
Titan army are actually at our big tech store here in New Zealand. I've never brought them though, they are cheap but a bunch of reviews mention dead pixels out of the box
Using 2 titan army myself for few months, no dead pixels at all whatsoever
Every video of yours just keeps getting better
100% Adobe RGB coverage and high refresh rates combined make Mini LED a bit of a Godsend to Graphic Designers who game 🎮
Previously, we've always had to choose one or the other
The comparison with a regular ips would help, could you also check if the mini led backlight would improve a va panel?
I have one, the AOC Q27G3XMN. It has only 336 dimming zones but honestly it works really well. I keep local dimming on a majority of the time and the blacks are very, very deep. It also gets very bright.
I bought two 240hz 1080p LCD monitors a few years ago and once one eventually breaks that OLED is going to feel so nice
Any chance of getting this Channel to look at some of the BeeLink or Minisforum Mini-PC's?
These monitors do have insane peak brightness levels, but there is not much use to that in a dark, or even dimly lit room. I have my own IPS monitor set to 5% brightness.
There is literally a minLED 1440pmonitor by AOC that is less than 300 US on Amazon. Rtings gave it a good rating and I think it is good as I have it.
im quite interested in mini led myself and i found a decent mini led monitor "AOC Q27G3XMN 27" for only 280$ us in amazon with mini led, 1000 nits brightness and a va panel. and for almost half the price i would like to see a comparison to these monitors
Same here. There is also the KTC M27T20. It has the same specs aside from a downgrade in 165hz but it has 576 dimming zones an upgrade from the AOC's 336 zones. Also nice that it has 90w USB C connection with a KVM built in for just $80 more than AOC. I want the better features but I am also torn about the weak 1 year warranty. One thing I do know is that KTC makes the monitors for Cooler Master line of mini LED monitors.
@@MrMega200I have the KTC and I’m very happy with it. Black smearing is not noticeable and vrr works well with local dimming after updating the firmware.
There are some reviews of that AOC, I've seen it on a rtings and some other website, it seems to be a very good monitor.
I'm also thinking about buying it in a month or two.
@@MrMega200 yeah my problem is that i live in europe and the aoc starts at 400€ and the ktc at 450€ so a little bit too much for my price point but i am waiting for a sale maybe if one of them dropped to 330€ or so i would consider buying them
@@MrMega200I just returned that KTC monitor the other day. Black smearing and lack of uniformity annoyed me too much.
FINALLY YOU POSTED YAY
Jisses it costs more than a really good reputable screen when import taxes and shipping are taken into account.
Like I can get two really good MSI screens for it's price.
Honestly for that price you can buy an Acer Nitro XV275UP3, which is also a Mini-LED, VA panel with a 1440p resolution, HDR1000 certification brightness and 170Hz refresh rate for way less (I bought mine for 350€ at the time)
That shipping price is insane. I just bought this exact monitor from a local retailer for 300 USD, and it was not a discount price. Strange that you didn't mention weird contrast stuff this monitor does with it's local dimming algorithms tho, using local dimming in windows or interface-heavy games makes some (not really) funny things with colors. Still damn good value for this price.
On Amazon in Germany there was monitor sold that looked almost identical with the only difference it was 4k and well eu plug and different company logo
I bought a cheap AOC ultrawide "gaming" monitor..(just to work on so it's ok for me).. And it rated as 144hz with 1ms refresh rate... But there's pretty bad ghosting, the overdrive doesn't do much. I see why it was so cheap now and you do have to be careful what you go for research your purchase. At least some people were honest with their reviews and pointed it out.
erm, I own a Titan Army ultra wide - its awesome. Maybe its the New Zealand market.
That's a Dell standard monitor stand mount! Just about any Dell monitor from the past 15 or so years will snap right into it and vice versa meaning so you get a cheap Dell monitor stand that's got a heavier base and less wobble and/or more tilt, spin, and rotation you want. Neat, love it when 'eh just copy them' works out for the best!
Oh, are they back to making good monitor mounts? That's good to know; I have one from 2010 that's not even adjustable except you can tilt it slightly up and down, and I was afraid that might have become the norm.
@@stevethepocket I haven't bought anything super recent but the Y base stands are pretty stable and have rotate, height, tilt and side to side swivel.
The charger pin is for Australia not China, I think they shipped it with Australian plug because they didn't the Canadian plug or smt.
150 watts is crazy I use 6 25Watt 27 inch Samsung monitors, and that's a lot of power draw (about 150 watts), I would probably need to run a whole new circuit to my desk to run 6 150 watt monitors...
Isn't the monitor end of the power cable a standard 2-prong? So a simple $10 cable from Walmart should fit, no?
Dawid, this installment was not up (down?) to your usual standard of stupidity! Love it! :)