Lament was and still is a really beautiful song. And should have been a UK number 1 as the music experts all said it would. But it only reached i think if im.correct number 23 in the UK charts
People complained about The Synthesizer when they came out but Its still an appreciation for an instrument and a buzz and an enthusiasm for it and you have to love that, and although there was a lot of dodgy music, we still look back at the 80s for music because there were also lots of great bands and people making really good fun music, and we have lost that and thats sad, because good music changes the world, there will be good memorable music again but we are most defiantly in a rut now, dont care what anyone says.
This is interesting because they are very positive about the machines synthesisers that they used to craft the songs, it’s not just what he (Midge Ure) and the other band members of Ultravox are saying but how they speak, the tone contains positive vibe. That is heard in the music, a type of passion and zeal for making their music songs.
Mayfair Studio 1, in London’s Primrose Hill. I was the Technical Manager at the time. The Recording Engineer is John Hudson, who also owned the studios
@@davebellamy4867Sadly it was 41 years ago……… so apart from knowing the grand piano that the camera looks at Billy through was a Bösendorfer with the extra 9 bass keys, I can’t remember any of the others. Worth noting at the beginning of the clip, Midge is changing an EPROM in the Lindrum, as the drum sounds were burnt into replaceable chips. You also the PPG wave’s 8.5” 128kb floppy disks used to load its sounds. How the world has changed.
I remember when I was a kid and listening to guys like this (usually clerks) in the music stores pontificating about the latest technology. It's even funnier now. "It's got overtones". That's darling. I fully expected to hear some twaddle about compressors 'breathing'.
Really great and how different is the talking voice and singing voice of Midge Ure, and I always find Muse 's vocalist voice is similar to Midge Ure's voice
Ultravox and Muse are, in a lot of ways, very similar ( this is just my opinion but both bands are combining new wave and prog and in a good way 😉 ). In the 80's i really thought that Midge was the "Peter Gabriel" of new wave.
@@carl13220 Hi ! I thought I was the only one who think that Muse vocalist and Midge Ure voices are so similar:) Muse definetely should cover an Ultravox song, cheers!
Hes hair is, like we youth say these days, "goals". But i do agree, those were the times of success for talented rather than sucess for rich and beautiful
i can assure you a ppg is far from thin sounding , some of its best sounds are basssounds and that is why bands used them because unlike a moog bass it cuts through and adds weight , listen to for instance anything by missing persons wich used ppg for bass . you can name todays synths and vst as lifeless sounding opposed to first or sec gen digital like ppg or the great d50 , lifeless is a far worse quality to have in an instrument, give me a ppg anyday , actually i own the complete system something to cherish
I can appreciate you diggin the PPG, cause you own it. No need to trash Moog though. Your statement about Moog lacking weight is so wrong, I really don't know where to begin. Might have been a reason why Kraftwerk, Michael Jackson and countless others played Moogs. Not to mention the famous quote from Gary Numan about his first encounter with a Minimoog, blowing him away. Just a thought.
I'm aware of that. There is more processing powering in a modern washing machine than there was on Apollo 11, but i'm not saying you can fly one to the moon.
In the 80s minimoogs were sold off for as little as £350 cause everyone wanted the polysynth with DCO and FM synth. Now minimoogs are the price of a small house!
>Anybody know what the deal is with the digit readout on the Mini? Never seen that before... I did that. It's to set tempo when OSC3 is used as an LFO.
Would you also happen to know what the two additional switches below the pitch/mod wheels on the PPG do? I have a Wave 2.2 and been curious about this for a while.
I don't remember that one, possibly because I didn't do it. From the switch location I would guess they're mute to monitor and mute to PA (with a transformer DI built in). I remember building DI's into lots of things to keep the box count down on stage. I may be wrong, though.
I believe that it's a modification they added to Chris Cross' Minimoog to generate a pattern you can hear in the live version of "Sleepwalk" here: czcams.com/video/qtvsqCkgboY/video.html
No the ppg was far more influential , it was multitimbral ( first multitimbral was the chroma) it had natural sounds ( sampling via waveterm and eproms) it had sequencer ,arpeggiator , in fact it was a workstation , how many renditions of the workstation did we have??
The Mini Moog is by far the most influential synth seconded only by the DX7. Not saying these are the best just the synths that were universally influential.
They lost me when they started using these more modern synths. Rage in Eden was the last great Ultravox album. When Quartet was released I thought they were just another mid eighties pop band.
2:12 : "You can't buy them, though. Technology has moved on far too much." ... Woah! I wonder what Mr. Ure would say about where tech has ended up today and how much those synths have appreciated in value compared to what they cost back then. The 80:ies were amazing in its optimism for the future but people didn't hadn't caught on to the shortcomings of the new digital technology yet. Also, is that a fucking CS80 right there in the middle? Or is it a CS60 perhaps? Legendary polysynth nonetheless. But people were hooked on the digital stuff back then and didn't understand how great those machine were ;).
@2:15 (Midge speaking about the Minimoog) "Technology's moved on far too much to sell things like this to people anymore" LOL, LOL, LOL, and then some more LOL.
So cool to see THE actual Minimoog that played all those beautiful bass parts !!
Midge was absolutely beautiful back then.
Still is!
"Technology has moved on" And here we are and NEW MINIMOOGS are being made.
now we have cheap clone of minimoog for everybody :-)
And now Waldorf M which is a PPG 2.3+
The shape and the sound of the voice, in strong lone tones ... 😄
Lament was and still is a really beautiful song. And should have been a UK number 1 as the music experts all said it would. But it only reached i think if im.correct number 23 in the UK charts
Yeah they reached at the number 22 in UK Charts
Buying a Moog Sub37 is one of the best things I've done in life :) I just love analog! Rich, warm and powerful
Midge Ure was in an episode of Filthy, Rich and Catflap (from about 1987) for anyone who's interested.
The Minimoog, old back then, old now, and I'm betting it will be old in the future, but still sought after and as valuable as ever.
Man of 2 worlds ,beautiful song on ❤the Lament album
These guys are brilliant & their music is outstanding
The Minimoog 15 years old...✨🙌😁
Midge ... 2nd guitar player for Thin Lizzy on tour in '79.
People complained about The Synthesizer when they came out but Its still an appreciation for an instrument and a buzz and an enthusiasm for it and you have to love that, and although there was a lot of dodgy music, we still look back at the 80s for music because there were also lots of great bands and people making really good fun music, and we have lost that and thats sad, because good music changes the world, there will be good memorable music again but we are most defiantly in a rut now, dont care what anyone says.
Yes, but i think it only can go upwards from now on! ;)
Lament est un chef d'oeuvre . Ultravox groupe culte
I'd love a mini moog, the sound Midge gets when demoing it is superb!!
I bet you have the behringer D by now ;)
Yes, it's Lament, from the album, Lament.
Fantastic band all of them great musicians!
I love him ❤
It is a very interesting movie on knowing the sound construction of Ultravox. How nice!
So awesome.
Pre-Lament! :) One of her best Songs!
lament ! hahah ! brilliant share ! thank you so much sir !
Fantastic
very interesting
Thumbs up
Greeting Frank
God I wish I played in that band, I would giggle like a school girl
synthasizARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
that voice......
This is interesting because they are very positive about the machines synthesisers that they used to craft the songs, it’s not just what he (Midge Ure) and the other band members of Ultravox are saying but how they speak, the tone contains positive vibe. That is heard in the music, a type of passion and zeal for making their music songs.
"Antic Synthesizer,15 years old' On Minimoog in 1983.. :D :) ;)
antique synth 15 years old....lol
watching in2024
^Coppertunes, nothing beats the original classics. :) "Till my kingdom come!"
@DrummerFreak04 The Minimoog was very much yesterday's news in 1983. I've owned one since 1987 BTW when I picked it up for a paltry $200.
Mayfair Studio 1, in London’s Primrose Hill.
I was the Technical Manager at the time.
The Recording Engineer is John Hudson, who also owned the studios
What other keyboards are there? CS80, Prophet-10?
@@davebellamy4867Sadly it was 41 years ago……… so apart from knowing the grand piano that the camera looks at Billy through was a Bösendorfer with the extra 9 bass keys, I can’t remember any of the others. Worth noting at the beginning of the clip, Midge is changing an EPROM in the Lindrum, as the drum sounds were burnt into replaceable chips. You also the PPG wave’s 8.5” 128kb floppy disks used to load its sounds. How the world has changed.
I remember when I was a kid and listening to guys like this (usually clerks) in the music stores pontificating about the latest technology. It's even funnier now.
"It's got overtones". That's darling. I fully expected to hear some twaddle about compressors 'breathing'.
Thanks for sharing !
Dan.. Sing.......... With
tearzin my yize...
Ultravox were cool here. But John foxx did good things too. Underpass!!!!
Peace ✌️ out people
John Foxx's electric Underpants
OUTSTANDING :-)
4 brilliant Musicians !
Really great and how different is the talking voice and singing voice of Midge Ure, and I always find Muse 's vocalist voice is similar to Midge Ure's voice
Ultravox and Muse are, in a lot of ways, very similar ( this is just my opinion but both bands are combining new wave and prog and in a good way 😉 ). In the 80's i really thought that Midge was the "Peter Gabriel" of new wave.
@@carl13220 Hi ! I thought I was the only one who think that Muse vocalist and Midge Ure voices are so similar:) Muse definetely should cover an Ultravox song, cheers!
Minimoog was a 15 year old antique synth back then....fucking hell what does that make it now. Really rare and expensive
Ahhh back in the day when you could be a pop star, with hits in the charts, and have bad hair and be in your 30s - all at the same time! hhahhaaaaa
"Bad hair"???
Hes hair is, like we youth say these days, "goals". But i do agree, those were the times of success for talented rather than sucess for rich and beautiful
Lament, j'adore
What Midge referred to as the 'unheard' sound quality of the PPG is nowadays referred to as 'digital, thin and cold' ...
Actually the PPG Wave 2 is a analog/digital hybrid, not totally digital.
i can assure you a ppg is far from thin sounding , some of its best sounds are basssounds and that is why bands used them because unlike a moog bass it cuts through and adds weight , listen to for instance anything by missing persons wich used ppg for bass . you can name todays synths and vst as lifeless sounding opposed to first or sec gen digital like ppg or the great d50 ,
lifeless is a far worse quality to have in an instrument, give me a ppg anyday , actually i own the complete system something to cherish
Missing Person's Bass synth sounded really nice live back in the day.
I can appreciate you diggin the PPG, cause you own it. No need to trash Moog though. Your statement about Moog lacking weight is so wrong, I really don't know where to begin.
Might have been a reason why Kraftwerk, Michael Jackson and countless others played Moogs. Not to mention the famous quote from Gary Numan about his first encounter with a Minimoog, blowing him away. Just a thought.
Midge looking like an East German third division footballer!
😍💕
I'm aware of that.
There is more processing powering in a modern washing machine than there was on Apollo 11, but i'm not saying you can fly one to the moon.
Midge Ure... just one of the reasons I wanted Scotland to go independent
dat accent!
Yes he sounds like Fish ( former Marillion singer ). Scottish accent !
"laying down the tracks.." 🙂
I would like to point out that @2:29 you can spot a Prophet T8 under the PPG :D
In the 80s minimoogs were sold off for as little as £350 cause everyone wanted the polysynth with DCO and FM synth. Now minimoogs are the price of a small house!
More like the price of a small car than a house, at least where I live!
At the moment I see them on offer for about 10K.
>Anybody know what the deal is with the digit readout on the Mini? Never seen that before...
I did that. It's to set tempo when OSC3 is used as an LFO.
Would you also happen to know what the two additional switches below the pitch/mod wheels on the PPG do? I have a Wave 2.2 and been curious about this for a while.
I don't remember that one, possibly because I didn't do it. From the switch location I would guess they're mute to monitor and mute to PA (with a transformer DI built in). I remember building DI's into lots of things to keep the box count down on stage. I may be wrong, though.
I believe that it's a modification they added to Chris Cross' Minimoog to generate a pattern you can hear in the live version of "Sleepwalk" here: czcams.com/video/qtvsqCkgboY/video.html
Lamenting from the off 🙏
You can get all these instruments on a mobile phone these days.
Anybody know what the deal is with the digit readout on the Mini? Never seen that before...
Poor minimoog it was old then and its old now !
3:05 till 3:10 is peak Partridge!
@mfitz1969 does it still work well? i heard they have some problems
Midge looks like Edward Norton.
@bigblockelectra It needs a good cleaning and going through - sometimes notes hang up, and the mod wheel doesn't work. Otherwise good as gold.
The Mighty ppg wave
0:41 INVADERS SWEATER GODDAMN
I guess they were working on Lament
Im interested on what mods that minimoog has
opens up the Linn Drum!
1:10 well it was "an old one" in 1983
Nowadays the analog Minimoog is still used; the digital/analogue PPG Wave (very complicated to be programmed) has disappeared.
No the ppg was far more influential , it was multitimbral ( first multitimbral was the chroma) it had natural sounds ( sampling via waveterm and eproms) it had sequencer ,arpeggiator , in fact it was a workstation , how many renditions of the workstation did we have??
The Mini Moog is by far the most influential synth seconded only by the DX7. Not saying these are the best just the synths that were universally influential.
They lost me when they started using these more modern synths.
Rage in Eden was the last great Ultravox album. When Quartet was released I thought they were just another mid eighties pop band.
What year is it from?
"You can't sell them to people anymore.."
Yeah.. only like 5000 Euros on Ebay
Anyone knows what song it is at 0'34'' ?
Title track to the album : Lament
Oh the irony...you can't sell Minimoogs to people any more...How times change!
Mostly because they can't pay for them. Lol.
Well you can still buy several second hand vintage minimoogs for the price of a ppg system so he still is right
2:12 : "You can't buy them, though. Technology has moved on far too much." ... Woah! I wonder what Mr. Ure would say about where tech has ended up today and how much those synths have appreciated in value compared to what they cost back then. The 80:ies were amazing in its optimism for the future but people didn't hadn't caught on to the shortcomings of the new digital technology yet. Also, is that a fucking CS80 right there in the middle? Or is it a CS60 perhaps? Legendary polysynth nonetheless. But people were hooked on the digital stuff back then and didn't understand how great those machine were ;).
We are getting loads of good affordable clones these days. Behringer are releasing a ppg wave soon.
what song on 0:52¿
Lament...from the album Lament
What dialect is Midge Ure speaking here?
*goes on ebay
Billy Currie would have been great with Tangerine Dream! Higher level of musical creativity.
Calling Minimoog an antique synthesizer in 1983. And saying that technology moved on far too much.
It was Relative then so I get that!
Shame about the sound wobble on the video
C'mon Midge, it's Moog not Moog! (*moʊɡ/mohg* )
@jay Does it matter!
@2:15 (Midge speaking about the Minimoog) "Technology's moved on far too much to sell things like this to people anymore" LOL, LOL, LOL, and then some more LOL.
John Foxx was the real Ultravox.!