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  • @robertwainscott9437
    @robertwainscott9437 Před 3 lety +28

    Excellent review - thanks! Also, you'll get all of that and more soon enough :)

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 3 lety +10

      WOW! Rob!!! Ladies and gentlemen Rob is one of the masterminds behind the Black Box! I am REALLY looking forward to this then! :) ;) :)

    • @RP-vq4wd
      @RP-vq4wd Před 3 lety +1

      Bro, you should use a Plugin Doctor or any analyzer of the plugins where you can see the curves+ added harmonics. There is no magic in this plugin. Its very simple and basic

    • @robertwainscott9437
      @robertwainscott9437 Před 3 lety +8

      @@RP-vq4wd I look forward, then, to your new basic and simple plugin. Good luck!

    • @RP-vq4wd
      @RP-vq4wd Před 3 lety +1

      @@robertwainscott9437 Dear Robert, I am sorry if it sounded offending or misjudging. I am not a software engineer but I am a music producer. I try to get as deep as I can into all the "under the hood" algo+coding.
      Maybe I am missing something about this plugin. I am not an all-mighty all-knowledgeable person. This was my humble personal opinion!

    • @RP-vq4wd
      @RP-vq4wd Před 3 lety +2

      @@robertwainscott9437 It still has some aliasing and truncation :)

  • @HandHeldHalo
    @HandHeldHalo Před 3 lety +12

    I've already got the HG2 which is great and wasn't going to bother with the upgrade to the HG-2MS, but now I am.. we can thank Dom's facial expressions of awe and wonder every time he fiddled with his Black Box.. not to mention the massive discount Plugin Alliance gives existing HG2 owners! Thank you both! 🙌🔥🎶

  • @CinderellaVasia
    @CinderellaVasia Před 3 lety +9

    The magic tube box by the magic specialist Dom! Can't wait for the video!

  • @lengwxiong0082
    @lengwxiong0082 Před rokem +2

    I am so grateful for all your help! You do all this from the kindness of your heart. Thank you so much. Your work will continue to live on and cause us to fall in love with audio engineering and recording over and over again. HAPPY NEW YEAR from Minnesota!!!

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobile Před 3 lety +4

    I was not even familiar with the hardware Black Box, which is surprising in a 45 year career in a market that exposes me to very high end gear. At any rate, you’ve done a great job selling me on the plug. I’m a big fan of saturation and have never found a sufficiently surgical tool to use it in mastering. Thanks, Dom.

    • @keysthomas1966
      @keysthomas1966 Před 3 lety +1

      U nailed my thoughts EXACTLY! Every single word, bro!
      That's why I skim the comments, cause somebody is gonna say my thoughts BETTER THAN ME!
      Well done, bro

  • @donwells8465
    @donwells8465 Před 3 lety +3

    Plugin Alliance for the win. Their mega subscription is the only subscription model that is good. Great plugins and great value. I also love how the owner, Dirk, actively engages with his customers. PA is great!

    • @alexgregory1427
      @alexgregory1427 Před 3 lety +1

      Dirk owns and works for Brainworx, Germany. Plugin Alliance is a Silicon Valley based software distributor. They sell many plugins from different folks. And this plugin is by black box , a company Eric Racy is affiliated with...

  • @edwardstaszko
    @edwardstaszko Před 3 lety +2

    Just tried it, love it and bought it! Now I have 3 go-to plugins I use on almost every production- Izotope Ozone, Eventide Quadrovox and now Black Box HG-2MS. Thanks for the intro!

  • @renebrossard
    @renebrossard Před 5 měsíci

    Your demo shows musical intelligence. You're using the plugin to achieve very positive results. I also enjoy your enthusiasm. Very effective demo. It really shows what the Black Box can do.

  • @jonesc0426
    @jonesc0426 Před 3 lety +3

    That is some golden natural saturation. That is a must for me. I have the HG2 plugin and this is next level. Was just thinking about MS / Saturation as well. Cheers

  • @mastermiller9776
    @mastermiller9776 Před 6 měsíci

    "Can we also have this in a hardware unit at some point" THAT PART. This Plug-In is CRAZY!! GOOD. Awesome video man. GREAT WORK.

  • @karma197930
    @karma197930 Před 3 lety +4

    ce plugin est vraiment impressionnant ! un essaie de 14jours, je crois que l'essayer c'est l'adopter :-) merci Dom

  • @Phat-Monkey
    @Phat-Monkey Před 3 lety +1

    Love the new updated version of Black Box, magic on the mix bus...

  • @bille77
    @bille77 Před 3 lety +2

    Love how you start bouncing immediately once a track is playing. I also assume that I'm not the first one to notice this.

  • @stevelast5719
    @stevelast5719 Před 3 lety +1

    I've been working with this plugin for a while and loving it, but the information in your video even showed me more possibilities of taking advantage of it's capabilities... Thank you so much!

  • @hollownights6946
    @hollownights6946 Před 9 měsíci

    The facial expression sold me 😂, I was like that’s the same Face I’d make if something sounded crazy

  • @mikehunt576
    @mikehunt576 Před 10 měsíci

    im so happy that the plugins I purchased work side by side with this one...which hmm..lets say I got ...and this video is really great, thanks!

  • @marciacava
    @marciacava Před 3 lety +1

    i worked with this plugin 5 minutes ago and I say thank you! it reaches my mixing. your recommendations are always good, the same with the tc md4 thank you!

  • @NickFromNetherlands
    @NickFromNetherlands Před 7 měsíci

    I Always watch some YT Tutorials before reading the manual . Thanks

  • @garrettjrussell
    @garrettjrussell Před rokem

    I've owned this for a while but wanted to finally dig into it. Big thanks for this video. It sounds great.

  • @briancase6180
    @briancase6180 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm drooling; I've been wanting this since I saw it two days ago! I think I would always have everything cranked up, 100% mix just because it sounds so sweet. I would probably never get anything done just listening to it soloed, listening to the harmonics. Thanks for the video analysis!

  • @Dayann3121
    @Dayann3121 Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing!!! I really want this! Thank you Dom for letting me discouver this incredible plugin.

  • @kmalectro
    @kmalectro Před rokem

    Dom - DOOOOM - BOOOOM - keep alive forever - thx

  • @trackcraftersstudio
    @trackcraftersstudio Před 3 lety +1

    I ABSOLUTELY "NEVER" !!!!!! EVER Comment,... But,....I gotta do it: That Was Simply BIG Fun - A Real Ride! Thank you so very much Dom for such an absolutely enjoyable review. I stopped the video just long enough to go grab it! Because I really also feel entitled to Have That Degree of Really GIG Fun! Thank Dom, Much Appreciated - Rock On! :-)

  • @5ision
    @5ision Před rokem

    Just bought this plugin and can’t wait to try it out when I get home 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Sokolin1984
    @Sokolin1984 Před 3 lety +3

    yes man its magic

    • @Sokolin1984
      @Sokolin1984 Před 3 lety

      but you most used, 48000! and oversampling is not needed

  • @reziahamed6654
    @reziahamed6654 Před 3 lety +1

    Was Soooooo excited just like you to check this out Dom... But can't be more sure of anything other than your opinion on a plugin... Lovely review Dom... Please keep up the new series rolling out along with your 1 minute episodes as well... Love your reviews man !!! Cheers & God bless.... 👍👍🎉🎉🎉🎉🎆👊

  • @thomasheimer3578
    @thomasheimer3578 Před 3 lety

    Grabbed the plugin for a more than 50% discount on Plugin Alliance in an instant even before i saw this review. I was already familiar to it since your comparison of hard- and software versions. Thanks Dom!

  • @RealCbase
    @RealCbase Před 3 lety +1

    beside the plugin it is so great to see how much fun you have :-) . i also already loved the old version (by the way the "parallel" feature is not new). the new version is so much more flexible. thanks again for a great video, i really enjoy it.

  • @juanjosegutierrezfaus9693

    Hi Dom. Greetings from Marbella, Spain. I've been following your channel for a few months now, and I'm just diving into the wonderful world of production just a little bit. I am impressed with this amazing plugin, its power and its versatility. Thank you for sharing your experience, your knowledge and, ultimately, your music. Long live the music.

  • @Ultimate_Wasabi
    @Ultimate_Wasabi Před rokem

    I love Dom's videos. Really great content and not a waste of one's time.

  • @sinhalatechbytes2045
    @sinhalatechbytes2045 Před 3 lety +2

    dude..!! this guy is hilarious

  • @JBrm
    @JBrm Před 2 lety

    I felt about the same when I first tried the plugin, really good stuff! Thanks for the cool review & demo videos :)

  • @kurtm6345
    @kurtm6345 Před 2 lety

    Thanks! The Black Box is amazing.

  • @GreeGzGFX
    @GreeGzGFX Před rokem

    WTF at 18 mins I'm sold man on the guitar the side processing is crazy

  • @MarcoPolux
    @MarcoPolux Před 2 lety

    Dom! you definitively lured me into Cubase and it is the best DAW by far, also the NOB and other plugins, if I recall the Platform M+ time ago. All your recomendations have given me great advantages...... Now I will have to buy this BlackBox.
    This are your sales, if you can, send an affiliate link.

  • @summerfazed
    @summerfazed Před 3 lety +1

    Cool! I might just run parallel buss with the original plugin with these concepts

  • @SimonasB
    @SimonasB Před 3 lety +1

    This was fun to watch!!! :D

  • @photicsonar
    @photicsonar Před 3 lety

    The best Puma ad I‘ver ever seen.

  • @drampadreg1386
    @drampadreg1386 Před 2 lety +1

    Love Plug-in Alliance, they constantly offer me amazing deals! I think leasing their big setup with all the plug-ins for $24.99/mo USD is a pretty decent deal and a great way to find those gems. They offer a $249 voucher to spend on any plug in you want after that year is up. Cant get that anywhere else and no, they don't offer me anything to sing their praise either. But constant 80% off a specific plug in at least once a week seems pretty sweet too. I'd like to see that AMEK console they released recently reviewed, sorry if you already have and I missed it, I haven't checked yet. This would pair nicely with the Tegler Audio Cream with a Neve 5057 summing mixer for a huge fat sound. After hearing it the lyrics "
    so wide you can't get around it, so low you can't get under it, So high you can't get over it, this is a chance!" Undeniable big fat deep sound. Thank you for this review, it's something I was looking at and just missed the 29.99 offer! Next time.

  • @JohnMarshall-NI
    @JohnMarshall-NI Před 3 lety

    It is a beast of a plugin, for sure. Cool video!

  • @Bronwyn031
    @Bronwyn031 Před rokem

    Brainworks are very sneaky! I've purchased several of their plugins in the past and always at checkout they ask you to sign up for their newsletter, where you get offers and deals emailed to you. Normally I just skip the newsletter but I'm so glad I didn't with my last Brainworks plugin purchase. This $345 plugin went on an 8hr or maybe 12hr FLASH SALE for $24!!!
    I had to check the email several times to make sure it wasn't a scam lol... but I picked this sucker up for the LOW LOW LOW price of $24!!! I just checked the website and it's gone back up to FULL price just that fast. 😲

  • @Dmitry_Perelekhov
    @Dmitry_Perelekhov Před 3 lety +1

    Good!!! Thank you 😊

  • @tomthexton7813
    @tomthexton7813 Před 3 lety

    I'm so getting this asap! 🎛️🎶🎵😁

  • @neal_laugman
    @neal_laugman Před 2 lety

    I almost had an accident the first time I used this one. And I thought the original was something. Whoa.

  • @jonesc0426
    @jonesc0426 Před 3 lety

    Wearing HD 650's when you did that Solo. Shizzzzzzzzle !!!

  • @8AW2
    @8AW2 Před 3 lety

    Man you just made my day

  • @Kayford1979
    @Kayford1979 Před 9 měsíci

    Wasn’t impressed with the first version but after seeing this I had to have it!

  • @enifx
    @enifx Před 3 lety

    uh Dom has a new sponsor...Puma sportswear..hahah very good idea continuing with new episodes !!!!

  • @JanEkbom
    @JanEkbom Před 10 měsíci

    I just subscribed to the Plugin Alliance bundle where this plugin is a part. Now I will definitely try it. Have you also done a review of the SPL PQ?

  • @AzzaDutt
    @AzzaDutt Před 3 lety

    Sounds very cool!

  • @drampadreg1386
    @drampadreg1386 Před 2 lety +1

    Again, if you haven't, review the AMEK available at Plug in Alliance. Anything Neve touched turned to audio gold.

  • @IroLidorikioti
    @IroLidorikioti Před 3 lety

    Very helpful as always :)

  • @keysthomas1966
    @keysthomas1966 Před 3 lety

    I skimmed a lot of these comments, and could only find TWO negs... and one of them was about the upgrade not being FREE!
    The "non musical" post feels subjective, because even on CZcams, I could hear the subtle, yet IMPACTFUL difference that it could make on MY mixes.
    MY stuff needs what Dom just did to that Pop song, but ESPECIALLY, the Rock joint.
    I'm sure there are a million ways to skin a cat. Crazy Master Bus chains, etc.
    For MY STUFF, this plug in will be Skinning Cats like HOTCAKES!!!
    And working quickly is the game.
    DAMMIT DOM!!! $350 is gonna fly outta my dang wallet!!

  • @xBRoyalx
    @xBRoyalx Před 3 lety +1

    i love your love of music dom. reminds me of my love for everything creative.

  • @RabbitintheMoon
    @RabbitintheMoon Před 3 lety

    great review.. thank you

  • @Risenprophets
    @Risenprophets Před 2 lety +1

    How’s this compared to fabfilter Saturn?

  • @citronialandmark476
    @citronialandmark476 Před 7 měsíci

    Good shit...

  • @johnbarron4308
    @johnbarron4308 Před 3 lety +4

    Hi Dom. Will you still be using your hardware HG2 for mastering or will the HG2ms plug in be taking its place? I'm curious to know where the hardware fits in now that you have this new version of the plug in with its extra features.

  • @vibrantmistartist9297
    @vibrantmistartist9297 Před 3 lety

    I love this plugin

  • @ominous547
    @ominous547 Před 3 lety

    This comment is not about this video but dude I just heard Behind the Wall and those Synths were absolute stunning, awesome song and I also hope to listen more Synths yeah.

  • @F4SPR
    @F4SPR Před 3 lety

    I recommend the monthly subscription with the complete plugins (29$ / 25€) from Plugin Alliance.
    BTW, I know Dirk Ulrich personally.
    20 Years ago he took over my complete studio with a 24Track-Inliner in Cologne Germany and I showed him how to use compression on a track. :-)
    For me the subscription is the best 25€ I invest every month.
    After 20 Years Dirk Ulrich is already a global player and I,
    I have to watch Dom Sigalas vids. :-)

  • @SadhanaKhawas
    @SadhanaKhawas Před 3 lety +1

    Please feature fluid pitch next! BTW loved the this plugin!

    • @SadhanaKhawas
      @SadhanaKhawas Před 3 lety

      @Cthulhu really! I'm glad you enjoyed! It was made by a musician from India!

  • @Raggo12345
    @Raggo12345 Před 3 lety

    Thanks again! Brilliant review! Black Box will be in every project I will do from now on. :)

  • @Lectrosoul
    @Lectrosoul Před 3 lety

    Awesome!

  • @Frozen_Smoke1972
    @Frozen_Smoke1972 Před 3 lety

    I was lucky enough to get the super cheap deal on this and it's just magic sauce on *anything* you add it to.

  • @britishboxer6875
    @britishboxer6875 Před 2 lety

    thanks, just got a perfectly working version of pirate bay

  • @murraywebster1228
    @murraywebster1228 Před 3 lety

    Good stuff, as usual, check out Elevate suite and the Sonible stuff, especially the compressor doing spectral ducking, it’s almost invisible….

  • @mrchrmn
    @mrchrmn Před 3 lety +1

    Hallelujah! 🤣👍👍👍

  • @steeltrust68
    @steeltrust68 Před 2 lety

    On sale right now for 99 bucks. And even less if you have some voucher (I used a 50 bucks voucher).

  • @thehighhnotes
    @thehighhnotes Před 3 lety +1

    @DOM Sigalas - would you do a video with an oversampled BBHG 2(MS) plugin? With the metaplugin by DDMF you can easily load the plugin within it, with the project on 96k and metaplugin at 8x oversampling realtime. And the piercing high end (relatively speaking) is even lowered when doing it. Which to me would mean it becomes even closer to the hardware unit. Apparantly the plugin doesnt oversample internally.
    Would really love to see the results if you'd like to try it out. *Subbed . And dude, that response by Robert! very exciting!

    • @ericracy4724
      @ericracy4724 Před 3 lety +1

      The HG-2MS does have oversampling. In fact all BX developed plugins have oversampling built in, it's just not user selectable.

    • @thehighhnotes
      @thehighhnotes Před 3 lety

      @@ericracy4724 interesting.. would depend I guess how much X is applied. Plugin doctor did show some artefacts around -70db which is too close for comfort for me :p. Oversampling even more did alleviate that.

  • @digitalmarketinghumans
    @digitalmarketinghumans Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Dom,
    Would you recommend this to only on the master bus or just put it on any track you feel?
    Thank you!

  • @soundplayground3742
    @soundplayground3742 Před 3 lety +1

    It makes everything sound THICC and juicy baby 😁😂‼️

  • @D.Angelopoulos
    @D.Angelopoulos Před 3 lety +1

    Ok master ..remember that we are flying with you..thank you..!!!

  • @Archaic1Eye
    @Archaic1Eye Před 3 lety

    Wow.

  • @DutchKC9UOD
    @DutchKC9UOD Před rokem

    Sounds kind of like my old tube preamp and tube amp?

  • @henria.6680
    @henria.6680 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for this great and detailed video. Your review of the HG2 already made me discover and use this plugin since then. I was not less also excited than you are about the new version when testing it on the day of release.
    You mention that you use HG2-MS in your master bus - when adjusting the kick in the saturation section with the filter - do you take the boosting of this frequency range in account when EQ-ing in the master bus?

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 3 lety +1

      Aaah good question- there is no real rule but I like a lot what the HG-2MS does to the kick drum. Most of the times, this might completely substitute an eq for the low end. it depends on the colour that you want to give ;)

    • @henria.6680
      @henria.6680 Před 3 lety

      thank you for the kind reply 😀

  • @dafee3412
    @dafee3412 Před 3 lety

    sorry youtube-video cant reproduce that great black-box sound - not even with 4k video-setting and high quality headphones - youtube-sound is limited to 128 max. 160kbit mp3 quality :( but love your videos - thank you :)

  • @ethikzmedia
    @ethikzmedia Před 2 lety

    i hope its on sale for $40 soon!

  • @lahattec
    @lahattec Před 3 lety

    Thanks Dom. I am curious your opinion of the FireCobra plugin by United Plugins.

  • @MR_Cellarpop
    @MR_Cellarpop Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Dom! If you use HG-2MS in mastering, where in the chain do you normaly use it?.

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 3 lety +3

      First thing! It loves transients. Maybe after a bit of filtering /corrective eq :)

  • @truthseeker630
    @truthseeker630 Před 2 lety

    Thank you dom, for your great review, and analysis. Btw, that song!!! What's the name, where do we purchase it!

  • @DanielGutierrezMix
    @DanielGutierrezMix Před 3 lety

    Uff excelent What Software do you use to record you DAW and Video at same time? Without Lags ***You have Super Good Quality, Video and Audio

  • @robertocedenno
    @robertocedenno Před 3 měsíci

    i love the song! anyone knows the name ??

  • @gatosoul
    @gatosoul Před 2 lety

    Thank you for Sharing, Auto gain, please !!

  • @misterkrotos
    @misterkrotos Před 2 lety

    I just got the non MS version for $20 !!!!

  • @OfficeofthePacific
    @OfficeofthePacific Před rokem

    Great video. This plugin is on sale today and the sale ends soon. Trying to decide if I should pull the trigger? I have all rock mixes but what happens when you use the side for guitars but background vocals are parked there as well? Wouldn't that make it hard to find a happy medium? Thanks

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před rokem +1

      You can’t go wrong with this plug-in! :) if vocals and guitars are on the side then embrace it and find the right saturation settings for the sides :)

    • @OfficeofthePacific
      @OfficeofthePacific Před rokem

      @@DomSigalas Thanks, Dom.I was considering this for mastering but I heard this adds +1 to 2dBs by default and cannot be lowered? Is that true? Thank you 🙏

  • @chillingFriend
    @chillingFriend Před 3 lety +1

    Cheers Dom, having both of these plugins, would you say the "old" Blackbox becomes obsolete? Or are there cases where you would use it over the new version?
    Cheers and thanks for your great content! :)

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 3 lety +1

      Personally it's going to be HG-2MS for me from now on for sure. :) There is no real reason to use the HG-2 unless you need the smaller GUI for some reason :)

    • @chillingFriend
      @chillingFriend Před 3 lety

      @@DomSigalas thanks for the answer, I appreciate it! :)

    • @tri-unetrl3966
      @tri-unetrl3966 Před 2 lety

      @@DomSigalas Then what are you going to do with your hardware unit of the old version?

  • @keysthomas1966
    @keysthomas1966 Před 3 lety

    DAMMIT DOM!!!!!

  • @nunomalo
    @nunomalo Před 3 lety +2

    Dom, do you use acustica audio plugins? I think crimson is one of the best saturators out there. Would love to know how you think it compares to the black box

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 3 lety +2

      I will need to check it out! I use Celestial from Acustica when I don't use the real Fusion from SSL :)

  • @JohnLeger
    @JohnLeger Před 3 lety

    I try to hear what Dom hears even with headphones on, but I don't think i get exactly what you get Dom...I suspect the video audio is limiting the range of what you get... would be good to somehow get a visual representation of all the freqences and compare with and without...

  • @user-bk9ue3es2p
    @user-bk9ue3es2p Před 2 lety

    Sir Please tell us the title of the track.. that songs really good

  • @Janomix
    @Janomix Před 9 měsíci

    My subwoofer has been satured and distorted with the excess of low end with these "digital tube"... really you hear that you make??

  • @AngeloDopwell
    @AngeloDopwell Před 3 lety

    Black Box Analog Design HG-2 is not the same bro?

  • @MODENESS
    @MODENESS Před 7 měsíci

    can I use this as original black box or not?Because i bought it yesterday with discount but not for the mastering. i want to used on separate tracks

  • @tri-unetrl3966
    @tri-unetrl3966 Před 2 lety

    How would you compare the black box to the ssl x saturator for saturation in general?

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 2 lety +1

      Very different things- one is solid state the other one is tube. The Black Box is irreplaceable for me- love the way it saturates. Adds perceived loudness and can be subtle or extreme!

  • @mamutjo
    @mamutjo Před 3 lety

    hello dom ! can i ask a question ? does cubase pro 11 do the same function of melodyne 5 editor in changing audio samples according to the chord track perfectly!

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes it does I have a video about this!

    • @mamutjo
      @mamutjo Před 3 lety

      @@DomSigalas thats fantastic and thanx a lot for replying me :)) can u show me the link !

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 3 lety +1

      @@mamutjo here you go : Create Vocal Harmonies Like a PRO in Cubase (from a single vocal) #cubase #vocalharmonies #variaudio
      m.czcams.com/video/N0UOjmwOWAQ/video.html

  • @thaexception3406
    @thaexception3406 Před 3 lety

    The Rock song’s link? Good review

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 3 lety

      Thank you! Still producing it, gonna be out soon :)

  • @_Nayeon226_
    @_Nayeon226_ Před 2 lety

    Hey puma cubase

  • @aerov2484
    @aerov2484 Před rokem

    Did you say "transformers" ?

  • @bille77
    @bille77 Před 3 lety

    ...but where still talking minute, right? I mean the effects of the plugin are subtle, aren't they?

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  Před 3 lety +1

      Hmmm no. If you watch the whole video you will see how you can have drastic effects on the sound if you push it. I also show this on my hardware vs software video ;)

    • @bille77
      @bille77 Před 3 lety

      @@DomSigalas ok 👌

    • @bille77
      @bille77 Před 3 lety

      OK, yes....