Strange World: 20 Years Later - Disney's Forgotten Flop
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- čas přidán 4. 01. 2023
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I can't believe it's been 20 years since the Disney Corporation invented homosexuality. Wild.
20 years!?oh god, time is not slowing down
funny thing is, I used to be okay/accepting of gay people, trans people, colored people. But these idiots made me a gay hating racist trans-fatphoob or whatever because of the sheer shoving that sh*t down my throat. I'm a god damn right leaning centrist and I'm sick and tired of these alt left activists. Where the normal people at?
@@arbanalechordin4710 dorky
Ikr
I'm still In disbelief, that this was 20 years ago..
Hotel Transylvania 1 unironically does a much better job with the generational trauma theme than Strange World
I think Hotel Transylvania 1 is actually a good movie.
@@theunknowncommenter725 lol did u watch this video he literally talks about people like you getting buttblasted
@@geox8485 Same
Illumination has somehow been knocking it out of the park for these past few years....
Even Hotel Transylvania 2 does the family bickering over the grandchild better, and that movie fucking sucks
To play devil's advocate for why the dad is worried his son will become an adventurer, grandpappy disappeared for 20 years and everyone thought he was dead. That in and of itself should be enough reason to be worried.
Not really. This was a thing he was worrying about even before he knew his dad was alive and considering how open he is with his son and wanting to talk with him it seems rather weird that someone you thought was dead and had no impact on your family for that long would effect your son. Like, did he not tell his son HOW he just left them? I feel like that be something you bring up or would be brought up logically.
Hell, the dad having any problem with his son wanting to do something else also seems weird. Like the first trailer I saw of this film I thought the dad was some poor out on his luck farmer whose president friend from years back came to ask him to help them out. Come to find out that's the complete opposite and I actually wonder why he doesn't have more workers tending to these fields that would be a very big part of this worlds culture. I know he could still have some worry and he's kind of pushy but the fact he's willing to talk to his son at all like this shows he should have some reasonableness to him and it's not like his son ever shows he hates his family at the start, just wants to try something different.
Though I do have to wonder why the dog doesn't even get a prosthetic leg. Like we have that tech now and these fuckers got hover tech and flying vehicles. I'm not saying he should be able to just cure cancer or regrow limbs but come on.
20 years... oh how time flies
Return of the king - Damn u 2003
Now i know how fix the movie
Add every playable character in Kirby star allies and as a character
Add parallels to the American revolution
Add kool-aid
Update the localization files.
You nailed right to the head why I love Woody and Buzz dynamic so much. Those characters look goofy and silly but they got into nasty arguments and realistic reconciliations. Strange World feels so bland and spineless in comparison.
Because modern media fandom legitimately get angry at characters that get into arguments or misunderstandings
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69Care to give examples?
@@alexgomez6723 People complain about the "third act misunderstanding" all the time even if it's done in such a trite way usually.
There was a Simpsons episode where Lisa tries defiantly to be THE FIRST WOMAN in a sport...only to discover every sport already has been integrated. This feels like that. We're making THE FIRST...oh...everyone already did it.
Well...we got nothing else... :/
@benpodvia5744 And yet we’re all supposed to be impressed at how FRESH and BRAVE it all is…
@benpodvia5744 Yes but the great classics have things that stand out or do things better than what inspired them. This? this was made to cash in.
I know this is played off as a joke, but I don't see Strange World being seen some as an Underrated Classic in the future the same way Treasure Planet and Atlantis. The difference here is is that those two movies WERE ACTUALLY GOOD, entertaining and still hold up years later all thanks to strong charactes, themes, storylines, environment. everything you need to make a strong story.
Strange World is COMPLETELY MID, the only that will stand the test of time is the strange world itself I can see that place being the setting for a video game or the very least a level in Kingdom Hearts. Just without ANY of the Characters
nah it's damn good.
People like the Prequels
@@jacksonteller3973 no
@@sirlimen333 yes
It will be nostalgic for a lot of kids who are coming across it on Disney + as we speak. Also, any of those kids who are queer are gonna feel seen and I think that counts for something if you ask me. ❤
Glad you kept your word 20 years later.
Ikr
Replace "woke" with "pandering". Thats the issue people had with the movie. Disney's decision to have more representation is a business decision, not an artistic one. This is why their attempts at social awareness come off as hollow.
The worldbuilding was the most disappointing part. I just watch to see how they'd approach the speculative biology part and while it had some effects, it was still too shy and it made me question why the humans were event there in first place. Plus the characters were boring anyway, the dad acts like more like he's the kid's big brother instead of his father, like, trying too hard to be hip.
Treasure Planet: "wow, space galleons"
Atlantis: "wow, supersubmarines"
Strange World: "so, do the humans come from a lost space colony or they emerged from the turtle's poop, like as if it'd be in the old myths?"
the most disappointing part for me was the woke propaganda
@AbrasiousProductions by your logic I suppose you consider guns in every movie NRA propaganda as well.
@@staC-wh6ik Except they don't put guns in movies to dredge profits from the NRA crowd and show how good a company they are.
It's so representative and notable that I wasn't even aware it existed, like an inverse of let-it-go fever some years back.
For a Disney animated movie, really pitiful.
I think the reason the "woke" label has been thrown around so often for this one in particular is that its clear Disney only threw in the representation for brownie points and forgot to do anything interesting with it. Yeah, it's progressive, but it's not a good or even interesting movie. So I understand the backlash even if it's blown out of proportion.
True but the woke word has been thrown so much it lost all it meaning
@@neoPeake also very true
What I hate is that if a studio doesn’t have any representation of minorities, they get criticized. If the studio puts characters of minorities, they still get criticized. It’s so unfair.
@@eko9554
To be fair those who throw around criticisms like that tend to be from two different groups.
@@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 Yeah but it’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.
If I had a nickel every time Disney releases a sci-fi animated film that completely bombed at the box office, I’d have 2 nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s still weird that it happened twice.
😐
Schafrillas fans not having an original thought or idea and resort to copying due to the lack of brain power and creativity just like Schafrillas himself
youd have 5 nickels
with this, atlantis, treasure planet, mars needs moms and lightyear disney is 5 for 5 on animated sci fi bombs
@@Marchaos23 Who pissed in your cornflakes? its just an annoying meme.
@@Marchaos23 "Who pissed in your cornflakes? its just an annoying meme"
not a single word was me defending him and none of it was in anger. Get a grip. if anything i'm curious since I haven't heard a single negative thing about Schafrilla other than him baiting people with "you can't say this or else the fans will freak".
20 year! how time flies
love your videos Junko please don't stop making them!
Character designs: look uninspired as hell and can pass as being from a different studio
Storyline: OF COURSE ITS GENERATIONAL TRAUMA
I wish they went all out with the “strange world” aspect. Like go wild and make it zany and surreal!
I can’t believe I’m saying this but avatar did the strange world aspect a lot better Then strange world.
Didn't watch it (I'm not the target audience), but my 8 year old son watched it and said it was boring.
the whole film is a grubhub commercial in terms of depth and animation
Low-key think Disney had an AI write a script and then just added all the token diversity in an effort to make it appeal to millennials. It all just screams low effort. I think that's what people are actually complaining about when they decry something as "woke". They're actually complaining that the story is leaning more on the perceived value of someone just being a person of color, LGBT, or having a disability instead of properly developing a character as an INDIVIDUAL. Modern Disney is also SO AFRAID of depicting diverse people in any fashion other than completely perfect and positive which ironically ends up making these characters boring and unlikeable.
Exactly!!!
Except Moana, Coco, and Encanto are literally right there.
@@APinchofBazel I dont think Moana and Coco really fall into the "Woke" category like Strange world does, unless i'm forgetting anything.
@@Klonoahedgehog OP was throwing their POC representation under the bus despite those three, which just so happen to be the only major examples, all being nuanced depictions of POC characters.
And sadly anything that isn't straight and white gets chucked the "woke" label by default.
Millennials? you got the wrong generation there bud, movies like Aladdin, The Lion King, Tarzan, Hercules, Brother Bear, Toy Story, those were the movies of the Millennial generation, this is trying to appeal to Gen Z and whatever generation the kids of today are.
This movie does what so much media today does, make sure it ticks every element of the diversity checkbox and expects that alone to sell the movie, but they just gloss over the writing, story, world building, character development and more.
we saw the same happen with the Star Wars sequel trilogy, The Rings of Power, Pinocchio almost the entirety of the MCU phase four and so much more.
Then you compare the older content of the same franchises and the quality of that vs what we get now is night and day.
The fact that I’ve seen this movie twice and I never noticed the dog had 3 legs u til I watched this video sure does… say something I guess…
I was extremely underwhelmed by this movie. Pretty much every creative decision felt like a placeholder until they came up with something better- right down to the generic title. It needed a second draft or more time in the development phase or something.
I fail to see how representation is in any way a mark of quality it's a bad film with painfully ugly character design
Liberal individuals are very narcissistic, progressive politics are an objectively good thing to such people
@@Vulpas They always cloak themselves in fake righteousness
I'm going to be mad if your channel doesn't get at least a little bit big. Really good production value, and your humor is pretty good and universal.
Please make a short of the "woke is the 4 elements" joke, it was the funniest thing I've heard all year 😂
Bump
That joke doesn't work in other English speaking countries 🥲
@@cubeflinger Wait … why? If it’s still English?
@@cubeflinger I'm from Ireland and shared the scene with my Irish/English/Polish/French/Brazilian friends (some of who didn't have English as a first language) and they all got it, so what are you talking about?
@@cubeflinger ????
From what I can understand, this feels like a case of a reverse Encanto, with the added dose of science fiction
Gonna be straight up with you here, if you want a good pulp adventure story about generational trauma and 3 generations of the same adventurer family working through their issues, just watch The Venture Bros. The premise of Strange World is just Venture Bros but ass.
no it's a damn good film fool
I'm just gonna say it...
I don't like the noses on some of these characters. It just takes me out with the Pixar noses come in. Maybe if the movie was better, I wouldn't mind but the movie isn't distracting me from the fact that I have seen that nose in like four other Pixar movies.
If only Max knew his dad was a knight alongside the Key blade wielder
"every breath I take is marred in the filth of humanity's hubris"
I was honestly more interested in the world the story took place in than the story itself.
Please please please keep making videos, you really have a style and comedy that hits so well!
It's currently making $12 per box office. 🤣 That's 1 person per theater a day.
Junko seems to have reverse traveled from the future it seems but jokes aside, I swear Disney is purposely setting up these newer films of theirs to fail by always mentioning little obscure details that always manage to tick off and scare away folks from actually watching their movies and just calling them woke without judging the film for it's ACTUAL WRITING AND PLOT
Why would they want to loose money?
@@moistquasar3572 tax write-offs
@@night_owlll seems legit
@@moistquasar3572 Disney is kinda held hostage by their ultra-woke middle management. They demand everything be incredibly woke and liberal, and Disney has been acquiescing to some extant. This inevitably drives away half of their potential customer base, who are conservative, and simply came to watch a good story unfold. Disney has chosen a side in politics, and it’s causing them to lose a lot of money. Their middle management doesn’t care, though, they just want their wine policies implemented. Doesn’t matter that Disney decided to anger an entire state, Florida, by trying to bully them into cancelling legislation, and mischaracterizing it as banning homosexuality, when it actually bans obscenity for anyone below 5th grade. Because of that, Disney lost their one-of-a-kind tax district in Florida, and lost a ton of money, and the same dynamic is playing out in Disney’s movies. They make a mediocre or bad movie, advertise it as being incredibly gay because they put one gay scene in it, and it turns off a bunch of people who don’t care about that kinda stuff, and just wanted a good movie. It also doesn’t help them with the more liberal crowd, because they won’t be satisfied until there’s a million gay scenes, or even gay sex in children’s movies.
Even after 20 years... this movie still sucks.
A movie that uses diversity checklist as a mandatory part of the script writing ends up being nothing more but a generic mess (or a nothing burger). Color me surprised.
It's fine when diversity is part of your work. But unless you are focusing on diversity as a topic, it shouldn't be your highest priority. And this movie is just one of many proofs why.
Well said!
I honestly think modern writers are too afraid of critics calling their characters annoying or unlikable
Characters just aren't allowed to have major flaws unless they are the antagonist of the film or if it's a flaw that's barely an issue.
I had the same issue with that terrible new AppleTV+ Movie, Luck. The main character is completely unselfish and nice and has no real goal of her own
and selfless protagonists are great don't get me wrong, I love them. But without any real struggles or flaws of their own they become bland and boring.
same with this movie here, it just wants to have a happy family dynamic and that's it, without real struggle.
Iunno about that if the backlash to characters like Captain Marvel is any indication
Not sure if it's my background in medical studies but I was so disappointed to figure it out the moment I saw the trees and rolly tentacle monsters and only confirmed it with the "sea of acid". It ruined what little investment I did have bc let's be honest I wasn't invested in any of the characters. When they revealed the eye I was like me: "shit ......it's a giant freaking turtle".
Imagine some people from 20 years later will see this video made in 20 years ago!
I think you were on to something about the whole LGBT rep in the movie and hollow it felt. While at the surface it's great to have the gay characters, the non-white characters and every in between it feels more like a stage piece then they're character. It is kinda a weird thing to tackle. You can't just have a character and be like "I am gay and that is my personality", its shallow. Do something with that character, take what a teenager would go through relationships but in this case is the son and this guy he likes. You said the Incredibles family was relatable because how they acted and that is how it should be done with any other character. Just in this case they're gay. It always feels like more like a marketing point then just "we're normalizing this!" But it sells for some people, lowest common denominator kinda thing honesty.
@Stezika15 Because it's a business. Not a charity. They want a good PR, but they would prefer not to lose their profits over it. So they slap the rainbow to get you to watch it, but also make it as hollow as can be to get at least some money from people on the other side, and then they hope that together it makes a profit.
But when you balance things like this, you end up with a flop as neither camp is satisfied. One side sees "Diversity checklist The Movie" while the other side sees "Diversity: How hollow can we make it". Neither camp ends up feeling strong enough to care about such project and the project just flops.
That's why "The Owl Hous" works, that's why original Star Wars is still more popular than the sequel trilogy, and that's why trying to do whatever this movie attempted ended up in a flop.
All the characters in this are one-dimensional though, so complaining the gay character is bland doesn't really matter
@@TheOneTrueMar Lmao weren't you types bitching about TOH when it came out?
@Stezika15 no troll
@@TheOneTrueMar wrong troll
So i woke up today...48?
The only issue I have with the gay character is his boyfriends appearance, I mean its going to be dated as fuck as soon as hipster fashion changes. Well that and the fact if it does nothing for the plot then its just point scoring, but if this is an orginal IP and not a remake then I guess they can do what they like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Junko: my family didn't look anything like them
me: ... is junko black?
...
no, junko is a trashcan, duh.
Wait, did you really get a copy of Strange World to play on your PSP? Oh, Junko... I have never loved you more...
3:27 made me laugh so hard I went into an alternate universe where people had watched treasure planet
This film could have been so good, but a lot of it feels very forced and contrived, which is unfortunate as other media have covered a lot of these themes much better than this, and i feel like disney is just very late to the party.
I mean if you want to watch an adventure movie with technology similar to the tech in strange world, just watch Treasure Planet
Ngl, the thought of bootleg UMDs being made in an end times future cracked me up 😆
Anyone else check their calendar to make sure they didn't just wake up from a 20 year coma?
A future without the PSP?! What a horror!
Went from 10k to nearly 50k! Happy new year and I hope you double it. This time next year!
wouldn’t say people were even angry, the obvious company bait and genuinely bot like accounts has been so ass since ghostbuster 2016. we really need a web2.0 without so much corporate and politics cringe…
Politics is the reason society even exists dude
prob the least visually appealing Disney movie, I despise the art style lol especially the noses
Damn, I can’t believe it is already been 20 years since Strange World came out
I swear the only thing I heard about this film in the lead up to release was an animation director mention it for literally 3 seconds in Corridor Crew vid
The thing that rubs me the wrong way about disney is their lack of subtlety. All their lessons are on the nose, all the writing feels like modern day shoved into a fantasy setting, and the representation is everywhere to the point where it feels artificial.
I want to get lost in the film, but they aren't skilled enough to push their messaging subtly and it yanks me back to reality constantly.
Thank you junko for showing us that even in the 2040s the beatles can still bring us together
Speak for yourself.
I guess my main issue is that everything it tries to do as an adventure film (more or less) Atlantis did better.
And like if I want to see Atlantis Im gonna just watch Atlantis
New Junko?! What a great way to start the year!
20 years came faster than I thought
Get this man some bonemeal this is an amazing video!!!
Disney's era of shallow spectacle for the tablet babies
This movie has so many problems but one problem, inparticularly that just stands out. Like all environmental preachy movies is when you think about the context of world
So all humanity is on the back of a turtle shouldn't we be more insink with the turtle. Even if we don't know we are on the back of the animal, we should be like a natural defense for the turtle for like Parasites. On top of a shell.
In fact, the main bag guy should be a bug hurting the land, and they have to kill them to protect their land unintentionally, knowing they were on top of a turtle.
But that will conflict with preaching messages of how we're the real parasites, and we shouldn't judge a book by its cover blah blah blah.
The "woke" argument people made is pretty stupid BUT I will say when I saw the dog with three legs it did seem comical to the point where it's borderline parody. It felt like a punchline if that makes sense.
How so? The movie is literally woke.
You've never seen a three legged dog before?
That's sad.
It's not a stupid argument. The tiny bit of mainstream news coverage that the movie had was adamant in hammering in the fact about the gay son. During what is currently a height of people having a distinct problem with companies and groups in our government pushing for what amounts to blatant grooming.
As to the other parts, representation for the sake of representation is just stupid. It's nothing but an insulting facade where you're literally treated like a space on a BINGO card. That's why people criticized those parts - it was forced to the point of cringe.
@@maxxor-overworldhero6730 when the revolution happens, you'll be first against the wall
agree to disagree, but I do think the movie was kinda “woke”. It felt so forced. None of it was organic and it feels like the writers just forgot to write an actual plot and just focused on how many minorities they could fit in lmaooo.
Disney didn't promote it too much because they didn't want to get China mad lol
I saw a tons of ads for Strange Worlds.
It's almost like Disney should stop trying to push 'the message' to a non existent audience and focus on creating something actually good and unique. We know that'll never happen though.
What is the message?
@@alexponcio2114 watch an episode of critical drinker to understand lol. They're more worried about woke representation for the vocal minority on Twitter rather than focusing on actually making something good, which should be the first priority of writing a story. It's not the fact that it has woke representation, it's that it was the main priority and it's very obvious that it's Disneys main priority.
@@ATthemusician did Disney do a behind the scenes where they said this was their goal?
@@alexponcio2114 if you're blind to it, you're the lost cause that let them get away with continuing to push out boring soulless content that only exists to pander to minorities
@@ATthemusician blind to what? Im not sure what you mean, can you explain? I’ve liked some movies, I didn’t like others. I never saw this or light year, but I did really like encanto.
23:19! WE HAVE A 23:19!
I saw this movie on Disney + and it was pretty bad. I don't believe that a father like that would be open minded to letting his grandson be gay.
A person from that era wouldn't be open to such a thing especially when he couldn't get his son's ambitions in line with his.
I can only imagine the pain and anguish you went through to get that footage on your dope spiderman psp
This mo ie was honestly a percect example of why people complain about woke pandering in movies. Esp disney. They worry about all the representation. But add no substance to it. Nothing of value is added by it. Esp with them being afraid to make any of those representation characters any sort of negative character traits.
People aren’t mad it has representation, they’re tired of it being the forefront of literally everything. I hadn’t heard anything about the story, all I heard it has a gay black kid in it and that it automatically makes it a good film.
They didn't want to offend anyone and as a result made a mediocre movie. It's a nothing movie for good boy points. They did the good things the people like because representation was accounted for. The problem with that is that they wanted to make a market exploit, not a good movie. I'm part of the people this thing is supposed to represent and I feel insulted more than anything that they put out this hollow excuse of a movie and expected me to clap and applaud for it. This paint by numbers "family movie" variety 285B that means fuck all.
Jeez... it's been 20 years already. How am I still a minor then?
now, that’d be 20 years too early. just watch this blow up in your recommendeds around then.
Man you just keep pumping out some of the best content on CZcams.
Junko your content is king in terms of video essays. Keep up the awesome work.
Facts
I thought this was about Strange Magic, the other Disney flop that is 8 years old at this time.
Cloudy with a chance of meatballs (both 1 and 2) have way better visuals
This video was ahead of its time
I haven't watched the video yet but from the title alone it's a 10/10
Yeah. Poor marketing aside (it got relentlessly advertised to me) I think people can generally tell when something lacks vision. The representation means nothing if it serves nothing.
as someone who did really like the film you nailed perfectly the gripes i had with it that i quite couldn’t figure out myself. strange world could’ve been so much more and it could’ve been a huge milestone for disney but there’s too much missing from it that prevents it from being what it desperately wanted to be and as much as i want it to follow in the footsteps of treasure planet and atlantis in terms of becoming a cult classic i can’t see it as much as i wish i do. this deserved a lot better
Love your reviews and your work Junko;
_TANGENT: WHY DOES SEARCHER LOOK LIKE_
*LIL DICKY??? GET OUT OF MY HEAD*
YungJunko looks like an Annoying Orange character
Man, you hit most of my problems with this film. Hilarious video, dude! Subscribed!
happy new year junko!
The main thing driving me from this movie really is we the awful character designs. And I hate Disney.
you are the best new reviewer please keep making stuff
Wow 2042 came so fast!!!!
Even the "representative and diverse" pairings are cliche and unoriginal. Could we have gotten an Indian dad and Mexican mom or something
I wasn’t expecting this but you nailed it
Thanks for highlighting the importance of the weight of conflict in a story and the dimensionality of relatable character as the main pillars of a good story. Good representation and accuracy (historical, scientific etc.) can add good elements, but if the first pillars are weak, they'll be meaningless
This channel is S tier, keep uploading stuff please I love your shit
"I love your shit" .....that's a new one lol.
I like the part with the talking trash can
Same.
Obviously the movie is mid, but it also being woke helped further cement it being a failure.
I do like visual style of the Strange World creatures though.
You’re a better CinemaSins than CinemaSins….
Strangeworld from what Junko told me: An interesting concept that flopped, the gay part was blown out of proportions by both sides of the issue, and it failed. Unlike our proud 20 year old babies named Treasure Planet and Atlantis.
what timeline did i end up in???
Legit never saw any trailer for this and saw a cardboard cutout at Disneyland.
That was all marketing I saw for this movie and I see why, it's just Mary Sue the movie
Remember Folks! This is a time capsule!
It feels unfinished, like it was concepted and drafted in the mid 90s and then forgotten about for 20 years and then they found it and just built on what was already there.
The world itself is so fantastic, ignoring the obvious Xenoblade 1/2 vibes of the main twist in the story, the airships and the tech/fantasy world powered by zappy brussels sprouts and the gorgeous internal world with all it's creatures and "plants", all gave me MAD Final Fantasy vibes.
It would make a great Kingdom Hearts level that's for sure
@@YungJunko What would Sora, Goofy, and Donald’s designs look like in it tho?
Bionicle did it way before Xenoblade lol
@@YungJunkowhat's your favorite memories of seeing star wars revenge of the sith