Both keyboards, we are told, are played with their factory default settings. Good quality headphones (and ears, for that matter!) reveal that the Tyros5's global factory reverb setting is noticably "dryer" than that of the Genos, which may well affect a listener's subjective assessment. But let's be fair, both are quite incredible sounding musical instruments - the skill of the musician plays a very significant part in how good a performance sounds. Or to put it another way... Peter Baartmans on a 1980's Portatone would still waaay outclass any attempt by me on the very, very latest kit!! ;)
Thank you for the demo. .. the sounds of the genos seem better but very little ... what about rhythms? are they more numerous? best? richer with more possibilities?
Very good comparison! They both sounds great. But I like the sound of tyros more after playing about few hours on genos. The main problem of Genos is heavy compression (and its not about master compressor) that you can't turn off. The dynamic range on tyros is incredible. For jazz, orchestral and instrumental music tyros is perfect, but for electronic genres Genos is better with his compression and new sliders/knobs. Also I personally just hate touch screens (and they also remove half of buttons because of it!). The new S.Art2 voices are good (flugelhorn especially!), built-in expansion memory is perfect, 76 keys is nice, revodrums are good also. But sounds of tyros is more balanced IMHO, especially for jazz or cinematic/film/game type of music. For more modern/electronic music Genos is really better.
Your comments are right on target. When it comes to acoustic sounding instrumentation T-5 wins, Genos succeeds in the electronic music sound. If you are trying to decide between the two, I think you have to know what types of music you are likely to play. Kudos to Yamaha, they have gradually developed superior instruments!
The Genos obviously has a higher quality and bigger sample library. It also has a better d to a converter. Sound wise the preferred instrument is a matter of taste.
Easily the Yamaha. Perfect for a pensioners bungalow. It's the Revo drums and the clarity of the sounds. I'm looking forward to the day I'll be able to afford a second hand Genos in, say, 50 years. That is, if I'm still alive!! Of course, by then, keyboards will probably have built in teas-made's and toasters. You can't beat a nice cup of tea at the end of a tiring set. I'd like to see one bolted to the front of a Mobility Scooter, so you could go shopping while jamming.
the Genos now that I have it being a new era flagship with a completely new design! and the sounds are much more beautiful! and full of innovative features! to follow Genos2 but I move on to Genos3
Is it just a difference in the stands, but I notice the Genos flexes and wobbles when you press the keys, but the Tyros stays solidly in place. Is the newer Genos made a little too flimsy?
The genos have more beautiful sound on the tweeter aspect and clarity .I think you need to buy a good mixer that have an output the same with Genos if you are using Tyros 5 . Although they have small difference in sound but on the price , the Genos is very expensive
the tyros sounds are still based on tyros 4 really just new sounds and 76 keys added plus organ world and ensemble voices new genos is 6 yrs in the making here
I saw the Genos up close at Rimmers Music in Blackpool last week - Very good but the T5 still does it for me. That said, the owner did say the Genos was retailing at £1000 UNDER its true value. Explain I asked...He said "I'm not allowed to tell you why" !! any guesses ??
He was telling you the alternative truth like Donald Trump. If you open up the Genos you will see cost cutting is what manufacturers strive for whatever the product. And as long as they do that without degrading the functionality that is ok with me, but I strongly dislike when they cut corners like they did with the midi file tweaking which was BETTER on Tyros.
LOL at people commenting which sounds better: Yamaha uses the same old samples only changing fx and titles in many cases. The significant improvements in Genos are primarily physical. The new samples are, in reality, realitively (to say Tyros 5 vsp 3) few. Outside of the SA2 voices, I still struggle to hear a vast difference between Tyros 5 and S-950! S-970 and S-975 actually have much better synths, IMO and more ethnic voices.
Both have their advantages. While Genos allows more real time control and more ways of articulation, Tyros 5 can also be used by musicians who are blind
Interesting that when playing the solo sounds on the tyros at the beginning they sound dry compared to the genos, I’m sure the main difference would be a lot closer when the effects etc are all set the same, is this a ploy to make people think the extra 2k is worth it.
Great demo, and the Yamaha Genos sounds much closer to the real instruments with the articulations, but selling 2 kidneys won't be enough to afford it. Aren't there any software instruments (VSTi) with great samples but also acoustic model to support the articulations ? There are some excellent sound fonts available, but what they are missing are the set of articulations, and having separate samples for each doesn't seem to be feasible. If such VSTi's were to be available, a decent upper mid-range MIDI keyboard would probably be something in reach of many more.
Halion 6 is like a software equivalent to Yamaha Motif. It has a few sounds that are the same as Tyros 2 like saxophones but none of the SA2 type sounds from Tyros 3-5. Native Instruments Komplete might also be worth considering. There are also plenty of half decent freeware Kontakt libraries.
Genos is of course better because it is newer and has some improvements like tyros 5.But both have plastic sounds as is standard with Yamaha.That's why the Roland G70 still sounds better even though it's an older keyboard.
Мда уж.....)))Вот реально ,для чего такие сравнения????Что пятый Тайрос,что Генос-это два замечательных инструмента)))))))Что на том,что на том можно вытворять чудеса...
Мне сравнения как раз помогли с выбором, чудеса можно вытворять только тогда, когда руки умеют играть, а вот как инструмент звучит это уже другое! Здесь тайрос как игрушка по сравнению с дженосом!
Both are very good instruments and I agree that the Genos is better in some cases, but the major differense you hear is a differense in DSP and effect. I'm very sure the Tyros can sound more like the Genos if you play with the settings and without direct comparison you'll not hear much differense between this two battleships.
Rene Scheilen its not just dsp... espescially the voices that where added to teh Genos and so are not in the T5 make a huge difference when used on top of the dsp.. and for styles, the revo drums are a huge inprovement..
@@thegerman3480 I played on the Korg pa4x and on the Genos because I had to make a choice, the Genos is much better on sounds and rhythms, it is much easier to use than the Korg, and its ergonomics are perfect. I am a musician and I have already owned Korg (triton, Kronos, pa3x, ...) I reproach them for their complexity, their flat sonorities and sometimes lacking in realism, as well as their perfectible reliability...
Not so much difference between the sounds of this both keyboards. I like my T5. If I would buy a Genos it needs me too much time to correct all my 600 song registrations.
Tyros 5 has Music Finder which gives you 1,812 songs and sets up the keyboard at the touch of a button. Genos does not have that. It also has a Repertoire button, a Freeze, and a Recommend button. Yes the whole keyboard is controlled by good old- fashioned buttons NOT a touch screen. In many ways the sounds are better on the T5 and Yamaha calls it the KING of Keyboards. Why buy an expensive genos, when you can get a second hand Tyros 5 76 note for silly money on e-bay.
The Genos now has a function called playlist. All the old Tyros5 music finder records (1812 songs) can be uploaded into the Genos. No problem. The playlist is like music finder but much more including midi songs etc. the functionality of the playlist is endless. I owned a T5 and got bored with the whole keyboard,. The Genos in lighter, smaller, more powerful, black, touch screen is the way to go and I must not forget the Revo drums, the 76 key bed feels great too.
With the recent retail price drop, Genos got much more compelling. Its still more expensive than the competitors but its also a giant leap ahead in both overall sound quality and how easy it is to get the factory sounds to sound like a million. Not gonna argue if one or the other keyboard has a better flute or guitar sound since its a personal thing what you like, but Yamahas SA sounds are just much much more easy to use for even beginners than what the other brands has. Its also kinda indesputable that Genos will always sound better than any prior Tyros model even with the samples that they share, as the whole sound generation has better processing chips and DA converters than the T5. So the same sampled Guitar played on a T5 and Genos with DSP off on both instruments the sound is clearer in Genos always. And plus that most people trying to sell an older T1-2-3-4 or 5 on the net really need a reality check of what a 2,4, 6 or 10 year old instrument of these kinds is worth .. the answer is , even a T5 is just about 4 years old, i wouldn't pay i dime over 1500 Euro for one .. its old tech .. its not a 40 years old classic synth so its really not much worth, and I still see people try to sell a T5 for upwards 3k Euro, when i only need 500 Euro more for a brand new Genos .. lol The genos is only slightly more expensive now than a T5-76 when it came out. I guess Yamaha either were a little optimistic of how much they could charge for the Genos and still sell enough, or they put the price high to start with to get all the 1st buyers that wants it right at release to pay a little extra and once they get their production up on full speed they drop the retail price to a more realistic value.
I believe Geno's violin strings are not impressive sound a bit little more of irritation . I am a Yamaha lover styles vice Yamaha more realistic but I feel Korg violins or orchestra are more pleasant than realistic sound but Yamaha must lift up the display screen back like Tyros and update the strings sound mode
@#Raimundo Reis Guedes Rio de Janeiro freguesia jacarépagua RJ o meu belo teclado arranjador genos 2.0 da Yamaha esse sim é o meu teclado dos sonhos ele é belissimi muito bonito lindo e esses efeitos são incríveis maravilhosos igualzinho mesa de Dj
They sound OK but not much better than the Tyros from the past. A Tyros 2 or 3 can sound the same with a bit of tweaking. Great keyboards but overpriced imo. For the price of one of these you could buy a Korg PA3 and a Tyros 3.
Doug, I totally disagree with you (with respect for your opinion). I owned all the Tyros and now I'm a Genos user. Tyros2 or 3 and even 4 have a poor DSP processor and a lower-resolution DAC inside. They also have less onboard tweak functions to improve the sound. So, it's absolutely impossible compare old Tyros with Genos. Also the same DSP effects are improved from Tyros5 to Genos (Real Reverb on Genos is ABSOLUTELY BETTER than T5 Real Reverb). So, how can you tweak your sounds on Tyros2 or 3 if you have limited tweaking functions on them?
Вообще все эти сравнения не уместны.Эти машины по своему хороши. У меня S 975 2018 года,так она между Тайросом и Женосом ,тоже очень достойная по звучанию.Но приближена больше к Женосу.Эт так,по секрету,кто не знает.
So much more keybed flex in the Genos.....not good on a £3600 keyboard. Finally gets a touchscreen but omits the ability to raise or tilt it. Apart from that I would still have one....lol.
Quote - Apart from that I would still have one....lol. And that is the exact reason why Yamaha will always overprice their top keyboard a thousand pounds more than they should and just because they can do it, knowing that they will not loose any amount of bussiness by doing so.
There are still quite a few of them being sold on EBay and still some people selling them as a part exchange as many performers tend to want the latest keyboard. I very nearly bought a Tyros 5 last year.
Ask 12 different people what the best car is, and you would probably get 12 different answers. What is actual "the best" is very much a personal opinion and very subjective.
What a stupid decision made from Yamaha on Genos to remove the tilt screen they should have both as with a option , not every one is standing to play or standing and singing Yamaha must bring the tilt screen on Genos
Yamaha: lets make a keyboard that sounds like god but has a cheap plastic keyboard and charge $999999 for it World: but why not make a full weighted ke- Yamaha: nope! It will be funny, trust us. Fantastic sound, terrible action, lets see if they actually throw down 7 grand on this
The same sound engine, basicaly the same keyboard. Genos should be bought for new implemented options in the OS, not because of few new sounds. With that being said, Tyros 5 is the the worst Yamaha to be bought now, PSR is much better solution, noticeably cheaper, and with ability to change drums components inside style editor. For any kind of editing T5 is useless.
Negativo, basta você conectá-lo ao PC e verás a mágica acontecer no T5. A Yamaha apenas TRANSFERIU os recursos de edição para o Expasion Manager, algo que deixou a relação do T5 muito mais madura e profissional sem as limitações do T4.
@@MaestroRonaldoDias You just repeat Yamaha marketing bullshit. Tyros 5 is Yamaha's lost child, no Drum Setup, no portamento, no scales for individual Right sections, all available on PSR at that time. Not only that, but they never updated it to have what S975 had later, whcih was more than half the price. On top of that, it was shipped without any expansion memory, Tyros 5 was actually a joke. Pissing on their customers who wanted an upgrade from T4. I constantly receive emails from people asking why they can not install the newly purchased expansion pack. Tyros 5 was missing many features available on Tyros 4 and earlier models, and all they got is unfinished YEM which still can not do what Voice Editor could, so no velocity curve for each element, no note off option for a layer, zero drum editing capabilities inside an existing pack or on the keyboard, oh but they gave you an option to play strings will 4 fingers and the keyboard automatically splits the fingers into a separate instruments. Wow, such a nice bonus for pensioners and retired people who play to their families once a year. And yes, my comment is 5 years old, so defending T5 back then was bad, but doing it today is asinine.
"too expensive garbage ???" Whether the price is right is open for debate, ( a manufacturer will always try to optimize the return on investment) but to call the Genos "garbage" is ridiculous. I tend to side with those who say the only rational reason for trading a Tyros 5/6 for a Genos are the convenient sliders and the lower weight.
I think hardware still has some advantages over software, although I don't have a workstation keyboard I do have Halion 6 but both the Tyros 5 and Genos not only sound better than Halion 6 but at least with hardware once you pay for it it's your's outright without the faff of dongles or license keys. Yamaha workstations are not garbage.
@@Steven-zg5bq It's highly unlikely I'm going to buy a workstation keyboard as they are more aimed at performers rather than producers. I would buy either a Yamaha workstation or a Motif as a last resort. The Genos styling is a little reminiscent of an 80s electric organ, I have noticed that mainly with the buttons. A Yamaha Motif rack module would probably suit my needs better as I don't tend to use auto accompaniments. I do prefer the styling of the Tyros keyboards over Genos. Maybe it's time for silver to make a comeback.
The Tyros 5 is still a fantastic keyboard. The Genos has a wider sound and really good Revo drums. You can't go wrong with either of these keyboards to be honest. Well they are good for the sort of musicians they are aimed at and that is any one man situation or anyone who is really goosd at playing live using auto accompaiments and one touch settings and they are also an invaluable tool for songwriters. But for midi music production? no, although I very nearly bought a Tyros 4 or 5 thinking you don't have to use them they way they are meant to be used but there really is no sense in buying one if auto accompaniments is not your thing because your paying for a load of features you will never use and to be honest you can always find VST instruments that sound far more superior or buy a workstation or sound modules. And also sorry to say but VST drum libraries still blow revo drums out of the water if music production is your thing. Yes both keyboards sound good played the way they are supposed to be played by people who are actually really good at playing them or willing to learn to play using auto accompaniments but these keyboards are not for keen amateurs like myself. If you only want to pay cheesy public domain songs like Jingle Bells then you can do that on any keyboard.
When I saw the price, I found that the road to becoming an artist is endless!
I have played Tyros and Genos. Both are great instruments.
Thanks Ks for doing this!!
Both keyboards, we are told, are played with their factory default settings. Good quality headphones (and ears, for that matter!) reveal that the Tyros5's global factory reverb setting is noticably "dryer" than that of the Genos, which may well affect a listener's subjective assessment. But let's be fair, both are quite incredible sounding musical instruments - the skill of the musician plays a very significant part in how good a performance sounds. Or to put it another way... Peter Baartmans on a 1980's Portatone would still waaay outclass any attempt by me on the very, very latest kit!! ;)
Thank's vor the sharing.
Congratulations
Sincerly Aimé
BOTH ARE awesome
Thank you for the demo. .. the sounds of the genos seem better but very little ... what about rhythms? are they more numerous? best? richer with more possibilities?
two incredible keyboards !!!!
Very nice playing!!! I play Genos. Cheers!!!! Lugero. Subscribed!!
I did have tyros2 then years later i skip to tyros5 , now since one year the genos 😊
I only can say it became from good to very best now 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I Love Genos so much
Very good comparison! They both sounds great. But I like the sound of tyros more after playing about few hours on genos. The main problem of Genos is heavy compression (and its not about master compressor) that you can't turn off. The dynamic range on tyros is incredible. For jazz, orchestral and instrumental music tyros is perfect, but for electronic genres Genos is better with his compression and new sliders/knobs. Also I personally just hate touch screens (and they also remove half of buttons because of it!). The new S.Art2 voices are good (flugelhorn especially!), built-in expansion memory is perfect, 76 keys is nice, revodrums are good also. But sounds of tyros is more balanced IMHO, especially for jazz or cinematic/film/game type of music. For more modern/electronic music Genos is really better.
Your comments are right on target. When it comes to acoustic sounding instrumentation T-5 wins, Genos succeeds in the electronic music sound. If you are trying to decide between the two, I think you have to know what types of music you are likely to play. Kudos to Yamaha, they have gradually developed superior instruments!
Amazing
The Genos obviously has a higher quality and bigger sample library. It also has a better d to a converter. Sound wise the preferred instrument is a matter of taste.
I’ll keep my tyros5. Good. Demo.🎹🎹👏🏼👏🏼
Easily the Yamaha. Perfect for a pensioners bungalow. It's the Revo drums and the clarity of the sounds. I'm looking forward to the day I'll be able to afford a second hand Genos in, say, 50 years. That is, if I'm still alive!! Of course, by then, keyboards will probably have built in teas-made's and toasters. You can't beat a nice cup of tea at the end of a tiring set. I'd like to see one bolted to the front of a Mobility Scooter, so you could go shopping while jamming.
Careful ......your ageism is showing.
Next 50 years, Yamaha Genos sounds will be heard on begginer Yamaha keyboards.
I like yer style!👍 and I like tea and toast!
Seems they both play fantastic lift music. OTS with "Doors Closing" & "Doors Opening" but guess which style ?
Genos definitely sounds crisper to me but both these keyboards are top notch.
i played both. Genous has new features but the tyros is still the go to arranger
Great Instrument. Quiete some improvement compared to the Tyros 5.
the Genos now that I have it being a new era flagship with a completely new design! and the sounds are much more beautiful! and full of innovative features!
to follow Genos2 but I move on to Genos3
Is it just a difference in the stands, but I notice the Genos flexes and wobbles when you press the keys, but the Tyros stays solidly in place. Is the newer Genos made a little too flimsy?
yes! a very bad design....wobbles all over....genos get some new designers please!
Tyros 5 please😉
the tyros is more soft than genos but anyway both are great
The genos have more beautiful sound on the tweeter aspect and clarity .I think you need to buy a good mixer that have an output the same with Genos if you are using Tyros 5 . Although they have small difference in sound but on the price , the Genos is very expensive
the tyros sounds are still based on tyros 4 really just new sounds and 76 keys added plus organ world and ensemble voices new genos is 6 yrs in the making here
I would go crazy with a wobbly keyboard.
Fortunately, I have a solid stand :)
Revo drum on the Genos sounds more real!
Tyros5 perfekt
I saw the Genos up close at Rimmers Music in Blackpool last week - Very good but the T5 still does it for me. That said, the owner did say the Genos was retailing at £1000 UNDER its true value. Explain I asked...He said "I'm not allowed to tell you why" !! any guesses ??
He was telling you the alternative truth like Donald Trump. If you open up the Genos you will see cost cutting is what manufacturers strive for whatever the product. And as long as they do that without degrading the functionality that is ok with me, but I strongly dislike when they cut corners like they did with the midi file tweaking which was BETTER on Tyros.
LOL at people commenting which sounds better: Yamaha uses the same old samples only changing fx and titles in many cases. The significant improvements in Genos are primarily physical. The new samples are, in reality, realitively (to say Tyros 5 vsp 3) few. Outside of the SA2 voices, I still struggle to hear a vast difference between Tyros 5 and S-950! S-970 and S-975 actually have much better synths, IMO and more ethnic voices.
I don´t know which one is best but I do know that the Genos is much more expensive.
I upgraded to Genos from Tyros 5. I miss tilt screen. If i sell this keyboard, i will absolutely buy Tyros again.
Een klanken vind ik op de tyros mooier klinken.
Its simple,
SA. Synthesis (phisical modelling) vs Multisample library
Both have their advantages. While Genos allows more real time control and more ways of articulation, Tyros 5 can also be used by musicians who are blind
Danny Benthien Yes! Do not forget that! I have low vision, so I just purchased a T5!
I totally agree. Until they start putting screen readers on keyboards it is theT5 for me.
Interesting that when playing the solo sounds on the tyros at the beginning they sound dry compared to the genos, I’m sure the main difference would be a lot closer when the effects etc are all set the same, is this a ploy to make people think the extra 2k is worth it.
True 😒😒
Genos👌
Great demo, and the Yamaha Genos sounds much closer to the real instruments with the articulations, but selling 2 kidneys won't be enough to afford it. Aren't there any software instruments (VSTi) with great samples but also acoustic model to support the articulations ? There are some excellent sound fonts available, but what they are missing are the set of articulations, and having separate samples for each doesn't seem to be feasible. If such VSTi's were to be available, a decent upper mid-range MIDI keyboard would probably be something in reach of many more.
Halion 6 is like a software equivalent to Yamaha Motif. It has a few sounds
that are the same as Tyros 2 like saxophones but none of the SA2 type
sounds from Tyros 3-5. Native Instruments Komplete might also be worth
considering. There are also plenty of half decent freeware Kontakt libraries.
Genos, so far! But I love my Roland GW8, the best cost vs benefit I've ever seen. For piano sound, Roland definitely wins.
João G. The t5 and the genos are in comparison NOT Roland or something
I just said clearly "Genos, so far". My other comment about Roland was just an additional comment.
João G. Only a correction because you said roland.
no problem
João G. Thanks.
Genos is of course better because it is newer and has some improvements like tyros 5.But both have plastic sounds as is standard with Yamaha.That's why the Roland G70 still sounds better even though it's an older keyboard.
Thought you'll play the apache..
Мда уж.....)))Вот реально ,для чего такие сравнения????Что пятый Тайрос,что Генос-это два замечательных инструмента)))))))Что на том,что на том можно вытворять чудеса...
Мне сравнения как раз помогли с выбором, чудеса можно вытворять только тогда, когда руки умеют играть, а вот как инструмент звучит это уже другое! Здесь тайрос как игрушка по сравнению с дженосом!
They both worth the money . Depends what kind of music you are playing.
Both are very good instruments and I agree that the Genos is better in some cases, but the major differense you hear is a differense in DSP and effect. I'm very sure the Tyros can sound more like the Genos if you play with the settings and without direct comparison you'll not hear much differense between this two battleships.
Rene Scheilen its not just dsp... espescially the voices that where added to teh Genos and so are not in the T5 make a huge difference when used on top of the dsp.. and for styles, the revo drums are a huge inprovement..
I like Tyros 5 look more but I like Genos sounds more.. Hard choice. If only I could get a Tyros 5 appereances with Genos sounds
Would you prefer a 1000 yrs old look and 1 month old sound
I would buy the genus if they kept it as the tyros 5. design, dont reinvent the wheel, just upgrade the sounds.....
Genos the best!!
no! it is as beautiful as the T5! there isn't much difference!
I prefer Genos for realistics sounds
For the price the best is PSR sx900 less than half the price of these two. Sx900 has built in speakers
Any idea on having aftertouch on SX900?? 🤔🤔
@@DJpiya1 Unfortunately the SX900 doesn't have aftertouch but it's
still a decent keyboard.
@@LittleRichard1988Thanks 🙏
To many fidgety knobs on the genos. I’ll keep my t5 till I pass.
Or did you already die
Coronavirus be a bitch amirite
@@ZeroG not dead yet. Got a cvp409. To take to heaven.
genius design is a cluster f---...........dont reinvent the wheel, just update the sounds! you destroyed a beautifully designed t5
They Both Like My SX-900, I Just Wanna KETRON or KORG P5XPro76
When are they ever gonna get the strings right lol
mehn. roland gat d best strings
i like T5 but definitely the winner here is genos.
Lovely demo and advert for yamaha but all i see is a big KORG name 😅😅
Even I noticed that.... :)
@@thegerman3480 Sorry for my word mate..... Tc
@@thegerman3480 I played on the Korg pa4x and on the Genos because I had to make a choice, the Genos is much better on sounds and rhythms, it is much easier to use than the Korg, and its ergonomics are perfect.
I am a musician and I have already owned Korg (triton, Kronos, pa3x, ...) I reproach them for their complexity, their flat sonorities and sometimes lacking in realism, as well as their perfectible reliability...
I am a beginner, I agree it,, same with your...
The Genus is more real sound and live.
genos*
in practice the sound is very close!
Not so much difference between the sounds of this both keyboards. I like my T5. If I would buy a Genos it needs me too much time to correct all my 600 song registrations.
in fact they are very simli! and I know something about it
You import them into the Genos... ready to go!
Geno's is good sound
Tyros 5 has Music Finder which gives you 1,812 songs and sets up the keyboard at the touch of a button. Genos does not have that. It also has a Repertoire button, a Freeze, and a Recommend button. Yes the whole keyboard is controlled by good old- fashioned buttons NOT a touch screen. In many ways the sounds are better on the T5 and Yamaha calls it the KING of Keyboards. Why buy an expensive genos, when you can get a second hand Tyros 5 76 note for silly money on e-bay.
The Genos now has a function called playlist. All the old Tyros5 music finder records (1812 songs) can be uploaded into the Genos. No problem. The playlist is like music finder but much more including midi songs etc. the functionality of the playlist is endless. I owned a T5 and got bored with the whole keyboard,. The Genos in lighter, smaller, more powerful, black, touch screen is the way to go and I must not forget the Revo drums, the 76 key bed feels great too.
Andrew, don't forget that Genos has 7 solid assignable buttons on panel, just if you don't like the touchscreen!
Genos is really outrunning Tyros 😊😊
i agree because i bought the Genos i only played the tryros once so i never owned one before but i am loving the genos
Ik hoor weinig verschil in klanken en zeker voor die duurdere prijs is het niet waard dat je hem inruild tegen een tyros 5 76 toetsen
Os dois tem os sons bonitos mais o genos e melhor na minha opinião
With the recent retail price drop, Genos got much more compelling. Its still more expensive than the competitors but its also a giant leap ahead in both overall sound quality and how easy it is to get the factory sounds to sound like a million. Not gonna argue if one or the other keyboard has a better flute or guitar sound since its a personal thing what you like, but Yamahas SA sounds are just much much more easy to use for even beginners than what the other brands has. Its also kinda indesputable that Genos will always sound better than any prior Tyros model even with the samples that they share, as the whole sound generation has better processing chips and DA converters than the T5. So the same sampled Guitar played on a T5 and Genos with DSP off on both instruments the sound is clearer in Genos always. And plus that most people trying to sell an older T1-2-3-4 or 5 on the net really need a reality check of what a 2,4, 6 or 10 year old instrument of these kinds is worth .. the answer is , even a T5 is just about 4 years old, i wouldn't pay i dime over 1500 Euro for one .. its old tech .. its not a 40 years old classic synth so its really not much worth, and I still see people try to sell a T5 for upwards 3k Euro, when i only need 500 Euro more for a brand new Genos .. lol The genos is only slightly more expensive now than a T5-76 when it came out. I guess Yamaha either were a little optimistic of how much they could charge for the Genos and still sell enough, or they put the price high to start with to get all the 1st buyers that wants it right at release to pay a little extra and once they get their production up on full speed they drop the retail price to a more realistic value.
Genos sound card IS more confortable to listening
Tyros sounds better and it is an older engine!! Crazy
I believe Geno's violin strings are not impressive sound a bit little more of irritation . I am a Yamaha lover styles vice Yamaha more realistic but I feel Korg violins or orchestra are more pleasant than realistic sound but Yamaha must lift up the display screen back like Tyros and update the strings sound mode
@#Raimundo Reis Guedes Rio de Janeiro freguesia jacarépagua RJ o meu belo teclado arranjador genos 2.0 da Yamaha esse sim é o meu teclado dos sonhos ele é belissimi muito bonito lindo e esses efeitos são incríveis maravilhosos igualzinho mesa de Dj
Tak naprawdę nowszy nie znaczy lepszy dobrze o tym o wiem
The Genos is better.because of having a joystk .
Genos best 😎
Genos is in black thats why the price
No Genos is more expensive because it's still Yamaha's currant flagship keyboard.
I'm glad I liked the Tyros sounds better cause I already have one 🤓
They sound OK but not much better than the Tyros from the past. A Tyros 2 or 3 can sound the same with a bit of tweaking. Great keyboards but overpriced imo. For the price of one of these you could buy a Korg PA3 and a Tyros 3.
Doug, I totally disagree with you (with respect for your opinion). I owned all the Tyros and now I'm a Genos user. Tyros2 or 3 and even 4 have a poor DSP processor and a lower-resolution DAC inside. They also have less onboard tweak functions to improve the sound. So, it's absolutely impossible compare old Tyros with Genos. Also the same DSP effects are improved from Tyros5 to Genos (Real Reverb on Genos is ABSOLUTELY BETTER than T5 Real Reverb).
So, how can you tweak your sounds on Tyros2 or 3 if you have limited tweaking functions on them?
That Genos sounds like a real band. That's quite the technological accomplishment
Anyone want to buy my Genos? If you in houston price is $4500
You can buy them new for about $4300 now
@@regencyantiquebooks6058 lmao
Please tell me where I can find a genos for $4300? This is funny
T5 is better
Вообще все эти сравнения не уместны.Эти машины по своему хороши. У меня S 975 2018 года,так она между Тайросом и Женосом ,тоже очень достойная по звучанию.Но приближена больше к Женосу.Эт так,по секрету,кто не знает.
GENOS is the best!
So much more keybed flex in the Genos.....not good on a £3600 keyboard. Finally gets a touchscreen but omits the ability to raise or tilt it. Apart from that I would still have one....lol.
Quote - Apart from that I would still have one....lol.
And that is the exact reason why Yamaha will always overprice their top keyboard a thousand pounds more than they should and just because they can do it, knowing that they will not loose any amount of bussiness by doing so.
T5 soft , genos hard === tyros5 😊👍
Get the Korg pa5x. Loads better
Thats true
Tyros 5 > Genos > (nothing, nothing, nothing...) > KORG
PS.
That's joke ;)
Nessun paragone con korg e ketron. Sembrano suoni e styles da bambini tastiera giocattolo
tyros 5 is already discontinued. don’t rely on second hand sale.
There are still quite a few of them being sold on EBay and still some people selling
them as a part exchange as many performers tend to want the latest keyboard.
I very nearly bought a Tyros 5 last year.
Yamaha Genos на много лучше............
Ask 12 different people what the best car is, and you would probably get 12 different answers. What is actual "the best" is very much a personal opinion and very subjective.
No need of comparaison . Genos sounds awesom and live
Wersi Sonic is better than either of them.
2:27: Real strings, huh? lol
What a stupid decision made from Yamaha on Genos to remove the tilt screen they should have both as with a option , not every one is standing to play or standing and singing Yamaha must bring the tilt screen on Genos
Yamaha: lets make a keyboard that sounds like god but has a cheap plastic keyboard and charge $999999 for it
World: but why not make a full weighted ke-
Yamaha: nope! It will be funny, trust us. Fantastic sound, terrible action, lets see if they actually throw down 7 grand on this
Genos zní víe do výšek tyros ubrané výšky . Stačí seřídit :)
The same sound engine, basicaly the same keyboard. Genos should be bought for new implemented options in the OS, not because of few new sounds.
With that being said, Tyros 5 is the the worst Yamaha to be bought now, PSR is much better solution, noticeably cheaper, and with ability to change drums components inside style editor. For any kind of editing T5 is useless.
Negativo, basta você conectá-lo ao PC e verás a mágica acontecer no T5. A Yamaha apenas TRANSFERIU os recursos de edição para o Expasion Manager, algo que deixou a relação do T5 muito mais madura e profissional sem as limitações do T4.
@@MaestroRonaldoDias You just repeat Yamaha marketing bullshit. Tyros 5 is Yamaha's lost child, no Drum Setup, no portamento, no scales for individual Right sections, all available on PSR at that time. Not only that, but they never updated it to have what S975 had later, whcih was more than half the price. On top of that, it was shipped without any expansion memory, Tyros 5 was actually a joke. Pissing on their customers who wanted an upgrade from T4. I constantly receive emails from people asking why they can not install the newly purchased expansion pack.
Tyros 5 was missing many features available on Tyros 4 and earlier models, and all they got is unfinished YEM which still can not do what Voice Editor could, so no velocity curve for each element, no note off option for a layer, zero drum editing capabilities inside an existing pack or on the keyboard, oh but they gave you an option to play strings will 4 fingers and the keyboard automatically splits the fingers into a separate instruments. Wow, such a nice bonus for pensioners and retired people who play to their families once a year.
And yes, my comment is 5 years old, so defending T5 back then was bad, but doing it today is asinine.
It's not Worth it too expensive garbage
Titi ROMI Its not garbage but definetly overpriced to the max. You can get Korg Pa4X is £1500 cheaper or get Tyros 5 which is still great.
"too expensive garbage ???" Whether the price is right is open for debate, ( a manufacturer will always try to optimize the return on investment) but to call the Genos "garbage" is ridiculous. I tend to side with those who say the only rational reason for trading a Tyros 5/6 for a Genos are the convenient sliders and the lower weight.
I think hardware still has some advantages over software, although I don't have a workstation keyboard I do have Halion 6
but both the Tyros 5 and Genos not only sound better than Halion 6 but at least with hardware once you pay for it it's
your's outright without the faff of dongles or license keys. Yamaha workstations are not garbage.
@@LittleRichard1988 the sounds are impeccable....the new design is goofy! put this on a regular stand and you will be playing genius on the floor!
@@Steven-zg5bq It's highly unlikely I'm going to buy a workstation keyboard as they are more aimed at performers rather than producers. I would buy either a Yamaha workstation or a Motif as a last resort. The Genos styling is a little reminiscent of an 80s electric organ, I have noticed that mainly with the buttons. A Yamaha Motif rack module would probably suit my needs better as I don't tend to use auto accompaniments. I do prefer the styling of the Tyros keyboards over Genos. Maybe it's time for silver to make a comeback.
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The Tyros 5 is still a fantastic keyboard. The Genos has a wider sound and really good Revo drums. You can't go wrong with either of these keyboards to be honest.
Well they are good for the sort of musicians they are aimed at and that is any one man situation or anyone who is really goosd at playing live using auto accompaiments
and one touch settings and they are also an invaluable tool for songwriters. But for midi music production? no, although I very nearly bought a Tyros 4 or 5 thinking you
don't have to use them they way they are meant to be used but there really is no sense in buying one if auto accompaniments is not your thing because your paying for
a load of features you will never use and to be honest you can always find VST instruments that sound far more superior or buy a workstation or sound modules. And
also sorry to say but VST drum libraries still blow revo drums out of the water if music production is your thing. Yes both keyboards sound good played the way they
are supposed to be played by people who are actually really good at playing them or willing to learn to play using auto accompaniments but these keyboards are not
for keen amateurs like myself. If you only want to pay cheesy public domain songs like Jingle Bells then you can do that on any keyboard.
Good thinking and agree...ideal for ideas for quickly putting together original songs like I do..but not for final tracks