As the commander looked towards their companions. Mythic power surging through their veins. The world wound churning with immense power. Blood dripping from their chest. They couldn’t help it. They smiled. Reaching a hand towards them the mortal turned Mythic smiled. “Join me, my pantheon.” The shocked faces were his reward. From the complete flabbergasts of Seelah and Lann. The unbelievable chuckles lf Greybor and Daeran. The warm smiles of Ember and Sosiel. The shocked faces of Arueshalae and Woljif. And even the stoic yet wide eyed faces of Regill and Trevor. Even Nenio in her near unflappable personality stopped writing to look up. What was offered. What was just going to be given. Shock couldn’t begin to describe it. “I promised you, all of you. A longer life, a better life, a chance to see and learn, and chance to grow and change. I promised I would even the playing field.” The commander said their voice still so strong even as their life leaked from their chest. “Ascend with me. And let’s finally do it. Make a better world. My pantheon.” One by one they accepted the commanders hand. And one by one they rose up. And 11 new Demi-gods rose to meet Golarion.
I was surprised though world wound have enough power to make like a dozen Divine being in one night. Owlcat is generous here giving us wholesome ending.
I've said it before, but Owlcat made an amazing game with a tremendous amount of depth. If your first playthrough was purely for fun, and you go back for a second run following these steps you'll have some amazing experiences waiting for you. This is some really impressive story and mechanical writing and planning. Edit: I forgot to mention I really enjoyed how you demonstrated and and set up this guide. Easy to follow and entertaining.
@@H44nz you and your life are pile of crap, this game is amazing and most of the best rpgs had bugs and gamebreaking bugs like arcanum/vampires the masquearade bloodlines and so on, you have to be an idiot to judge an rpg game like this because of bugs
Thank you for making this guide. This game is popular, but so complex that there is very little community information available. For the few hardcore players out there trying to get achievements like myself, this is hugely appreciated.
Thank you for the fantastic video. I'll answer your aeon question below, and offer one recommendation for new players right here. The Recommendation: Don't go Aeon for your first playthrough. The Answer: ! ! ! ! *AEON SPOILERS BELOW* ! ! ! ! [The Answer] A true Aeon is compelled to judge Areelu by going back in time and taking her out before she has a chance to create either them or the Worldwound. The journey towards this conclusion is only fun if you know what the unaltered timeline looks like, and is, ultimately - and perhaps appropriately - going to leave you feeling a little used, and a little hollow. [Further Bitching] This path is built up as a transcendental, cosmic experience beyond the ken of mortals, gods, or demon lords. What it culminates in is a celestial kick in the nuts from uncaring cosmic forces that are only too happy to see you yeeted from the timeline, same as every other "mistake" that you've been retconning on your travels. An Aeon player is not an Aeon. They're not impartial observers residing in a layer above the mundane chessboard. They're a pawn for those greater forces, and face the fate of all pawns when a game is finished. You don't join them at the end. You don't ascend to the cosmos and join your Aeonnic space buddies for a game of space bowling and a space beer. You're simply corrected, and that's it. It's appropriate in an ouroboros 'it ends where it began' kind of way. The universe corrects a mistake with the mistake. The scales are most balanced when they're empty. Fine. Whatever. I'm rolling Azata and punching everything between my guy and a happy ending with Arueshalae. The cosmic balance can go fuck itself.
I like to see that even the most “good” mythic paths like Angel and Azata can’t make the most “good” choice in the end and made the ultimate “good” sacrifice, themselves, resulting in being same selfish persons as all evil paths regardless their “good” alignment (:
All the reasons you listed is exactly why the Aeon path is my absolute favorite haha. Got pure goosebumps when my character got the blue aura when he returned to reality after altering the past. As soon as that happened, I knew exactly what I had to do to maintain the balance.
Spoilers for Trickster Act 5: You can actually *trick* the members of the counsel to fight you. If this happens use a midnight bolt on Socothbenoth instead. This is because you no longer fight Nocticula. This will net you the right amount of crystals (granted you got the other ones too) for the party to ascend.
Thx for the guide. Got the ascension ending in my 1st playthrough thx to this video as a Gold Dragon Mythic Path. Didn't need Nuria though, I killed her on Drezen and still managed to make Mutafasen to stay on Pullura's Fall and save the researchers at the same time. Although one of the researchers sacrificed himself to close Mutas portal, but the rest of the crew survived.
I have tried to do this on my own 3 times now and always miss a couple of steps, this will come handy for finally doing it right. Thx for the guide, I'm sure it took a lot of work.
@@SlanderedGaming Also I did picked the gloves on 43:11, apparently you have to pick them first (before any other item in the shack) and it is mentioned as the 7th dialogue, at least that is what it said: "you did pick up my son's favorite belongings first"
First of all, thank you for this guide, it's impossible to tell how much you helped me with this video, i've seen couple of guides in the Internet before but yours is just brilliant, it have literally everything from dates, locations, calendar to some hidden tips I haven't seen nowhere, I'm sure this video was a ton of work, well done! Also, i can confirm that everything from "Areelu Lab part 2" works. (not sure about accepting powers tho) Ps And I can also give a little tip for those who, like me, have done all the sidequests, all research and everything else in Act 5 and are waiting for the desired month, you can send your party to the place farthest from the capital, put auto crusade mode and start swap your party members, the further you go from the capital, the more time will pass in the game after each swap, it took me 7 days for each one, you can skip quickly enough, and the ac mod is needed for skipping useless demon fights at the border, if you have already done everything, then turning it on will not affect ending, you will still have all dialogs with areelu about your research before ac mode
Thanks for the guide. Also want to add this considering 27:00 about letting Nura help you. You can totally accept her help with Mutasafen, being on an Angel mythic path, you will meet him again in his Laboratory and can continue with your mythic path etc.
Nenio's questline was literally the hardest quest I've ever played in ANY videogame. I'm not good at puzzles to begin with, and even with a guide, I couldn't do it before. Thanks for the help! This game is...deep... lol.
A note I'd like to add for the Ineluctable Prison if playing as an Azata: Be sure to find Hepzamirah after dealing with the Hand of the Inheritor and do NOT destroy the Prison until then. Because once that happens, can't go back and have to use a mod like Toybox to fix things. Other Mythic paths might be able to go back, but I wasn't able to as an Azata.
I did this on my "good" lich playthrough. I was not disappointed. It was a great ending, almost all my companions ascended (seelah left and wenduag refused) and Demon Mom, plus I got to give Pharasma a little "up yours". I hear the first DLC continues from the end of the game(or at least we get to use a full power char), so I can't wait to see it.
How exactly did you have good lich run? I heard something about killing Zacharius and Siding with Geb but that sounds like some sort of rumor rather than in game thing.
@@kubakwak921 You just pick the good options? Nothing preventing you from being good alignment after you do the Mythic Path Alignment quest. I started out with a Neutral Evil character, pick mainly good options, was neutral when the quest popped up to "not be good" and just talked to Zach to pass the quest while being true neutral. After that you dont need to worry about keeping alignment to below good. Also, most companions wont leave you if you earn loyalty (I'm sure there is a way to make seelah stay too). In my playthrough I saved the Queen, only raised Staunton and Kestogar, didnt pick the Lich option in Act4 drezen (so didnt raise the dead). I Eared Zacharius loyalty by killing both, other advisors (more to it but...) I basically did all the stuff I'd have done on an angel playthrough (bar what I needed for the demi god ascendancy)
Also you can kill Zach (his wand/phylactery is in the ziggeraught) and ally with Geb. I've done that in another playthrough. I dunno if there is a definitive "good" lich ending, I just picked the good choices through out the game. All my ending slides were positive due so....(well bar wenduag)
@@Dinvan I see! It always brothered me that it seemed like you can't play as lawful neutral lich, Ainz Ooal Gown style. Glad to know I actually can remain not mustache twirling Evil.
In order to have Areelu summon Baphomet and Deskari, you must make her high priest of both. And to achieve this, you must rid the current holders of these positions: Deskari's Echo and Horzalah. But you have to learn that from Hepzamirah's ghost in the labyrinth after you fought against Iomedae's Champion.
@@Nikiokoin act 4 I did all of graybors quest, gave him his half of money and told him it’s his choice if he wants to join the assassin’s. He has not come talk to me at all in act 5
@@JudgeAlan501 Did Greybor approach you in the citadel and tell you that an assassin is after you? Did the assassin attack you in your bedroom? And what have you done in act 4? Did you enter Willodus' mansion and kill him?
I have seen few written guides, some more precise than others but a video like this is definitely more easy to follow. Thank you for the time you spent on making this video!
32:56 Regarding the Heart of the Inheritor, you can DEFINITELY give his heart back even if he doesn't trust you and STILL get the Ascension. (The dialogue with Areelu in the end won't even bring up the Heart and the Inheritor's fate which is why the rumor of it blocking you of the secret ending is most likely false.) 34:12 For the Ineluctable Prison, you can kill the Worm first before fighting the Hand of the Inheritor. However, when you go to Hepzamirah's location in the Prison BEFORE fighting the Inheritor, you will see no one, so you need to defeat the Inheritor first. If you somehow forgot to talk to Hepzamirah and left the Prison after defeating the Hand of the Inheritor, just go back to the prison. She will still be there for you to talk to.
Did another playthrough as a Trickster + ascension ending and I'd like to add. It is not necessary to kill the Worm or the Ashen One in the Inelectuble Prison. Just head to where Hepzamirah is and talk to her after defeating Inheribro then leave dungeon. But hey extra exp is always nice :D
On my 4th playthrough I finally tried to achieve this using a written guide. I failed somewhere, but on 5th playthrough using this I succeeded. It was a long journey, but well worth it so THANK YOU! =)
I should mention in the long quest involving that advanced technology dungeon, you can attain a powerful helmet that really boosts your Will. It can definitely help with Will Checks
You must finished the game between the 16 and 21th Gozran but there's not a limited year ;), on my last run i have finished the game with 6 cristals and Ascension in 4718. With the increasing content, it's normal, otherwise you would have to miss out on quests, which, as an rpg player, is difficult to accept.
Hey guys. For those of you who are like me can't be bothered with keeping track on elven pages and constantly missing them - there's actually a very easy way to combine Lexicon yourself even if all of your Knowledge and Lore skills are literally 0. The most important part for this is level 20 cleric and domain powers - you going to need Touch of Good, Visions of Madness and Touch of Law. Sosiel can do this for you unless you already leveled him up in a different way. If so - hire a merc. You can get both Good and Law domains during character creation if you pick Erastil, Iomedae or Torag as deity. Madness can be added as impossible domain mythic ability. Make sure you have +8 to INT and WIS buffs (easiest source - level 20 brown-fur transmuter merc). You also going to need character who can cast greater heroism and someone to cook Mulled Wine or Lucky Hand Sandwich (if you are willing to deal with Enigma). To combine Lexicon you gonna have to travel to an area where you can buff your MC with all this good stuff. If you're in Drezen the closest location is Lost Chapel. Go there. Rest, cook Mulled Wine/Lucky Hand Sandwich (+4/+5 Meal), cast on MC: Guidance (+1 Competence), Greater Heroism (+4 Morale), Visions of Madness - Skill Checks (+10 Untyped, need to overcome characters spell resistance to apply), Touch of Good (+10 Sacred) and then as a bonus Touch of Law for guarantied 11 rolls. So provided you already have INT/WIS bonuses, stacking all of this allows you pass all of Lexicon checks without any problems. On Core the toughest one is 41. I don't know if the checks are harder on higher difficulty levels.
An alternative solution for Pulura Falls I found to rescue the Stargazers: If Ramien ( Desnan priest you saved from Hulrun`s clutches/ Act I ) sides with you, then you can safely deal with Mutasafen.
Fun Fact: _The Glass Key_ (1942) is also a great film noir movie. (InB4 someone in the comments points out "It's from a book, ya nab!" - I know but I can't authoritatively say the book is great because I haven't read it. Instead tell me I should, and I'll add it to the groaning backlog of books I need to read).
Technically the Ascension ending doesn't close the World Wound, it just makes the plane that it connects to yours instead of Deskari and Baphomet's. Which can be a good or bad thing for Golarion, depending on what Mythic Path you took.
i like how this time the secret ending is way more impossible to achieve and all it does is just make you a god. i know i know "oh wow godhood" but it doesn't give you anything mechanically in the game is just like getting a colored sash at the end of a competition. its like "huh, neat"
@@SlanderedGaming idk, I think it's actually pretty lame that they hid it behind such random easily missed things. Secret, fine, hard to get, fine, locked behind random items you have zero indication of being important in the first 20 min of the game, moronic.
Its amazing, i was just planning my 4th playthrouh (I usually dont like replaying games), and only now i have find out there are options in endings to ascend. I absolutely love this game. Also thank you so much for your work!
I beat WotC when it first came out and decided to play it again later when the bugs were fixed. Had no idea any of this was even a thing so now on my second playthough I'm going for ascension. This guide is fantastic, concise and clear with annotations on top of it. Thanks.
Idk about Baphomet in the final act, but for some reason Deskari dropped 2 Nahyndrian crystals when hit/killed with a midnight bolt. He died on the same hit from the bolt. Accidentally killed Baphomet with an overpowered Trever so idk if he is supposed to drop one.
Some people have said that fight is bugged again where they had trouble getting the crystals to drop. Hopefully it's all cleared up when the enhanced edition comes around.
When you realize the very first choice of the game is at the very beginning but you're around the end of act 4 so you use toybox to change it. By the way, if you do want to use toybox to change that etude, go into Search n Pick, search "Areelucrossbowrefused" and select "Unstart". Now search "Areelucrossbowtaken" and select "Start". Do not select "Complete".
@@jupiterrising887 Nah, not a fan of going through character generation. Did not have a save back then before the attack started. Even if I did, it's likely beyond outdated.
i know this is true but it sounds like all the old pokemon rumors when i was a kid. get a level 100 mewtwo take certain number of steps while its in the day care take it to a location. use a move on a hidden object... just how specific this ending is sounds like a schoolyard rumor lol.
Great video, and I don't know if anyone will be reading this after 2 years, but I think there's a couple things that deserve pointing out: 1) If you romance Galfrey and get enough crystals, she will also ascend with you 2) During the ending of the Treasure of the Midnight Isles DLC, you are able to get another crystal, meaning you can have a Mythic other than Trickster or Demon and still be able to skip Nenio's final quest (up to personal preference if you think the quest or Midnight Isles are worse) 3) SPOILERS for the Aeon Mythic ending: True Aeon cannot achieve ascension because at the end of the game, you roll back time so that the Worldwound never even existed in the first place, therefore you never got your powers (and possibly never existed either I don't remember exactly). However if you are on the path of True Aeon you still can make the choice to not reverse time and ascend, however this will switch you over to Renegade Aeon. 4) The year does not matter when entering the Threshold, the game only checks the day and month, although it is very unlikely that you will be entering in later years unless you deliberately skip time.
I wonder. The missing check to convince her your her child. If you have the lucky bracers you begin with the game with she will mention she made them for her child (who has your name surprise surprise) I remembered it playing my azata and her mentioning them cause I literally never took them off.
Yup and if you want the alternative choices towards the end there is a pair of gloves you can get in her lab that give you a luck bonus to AC and your stats.
There's also a perception check directly after the 4 knowledge/lore checks you need to pass to combine the 2 lexicon parts. The DC is lower than the lore/knowledge checks, but still quite high. I respecced specifically to be able to pass those checks then stumbled on the perception on 1 attempt, (had to reload & buff to get through it).
Thank you so much for doing this. Haven't finished yet but I'm trying to get full party ascension for my first ascension run. It will be my forth full play through and still I would have no chance without the information from this video. Picked up some of the info and clues in my other runs but I missed at least a third or half of what you list in this video. Well done dude and thanks again for the time stamps, I'm sure those will come in handy.
Thanks for the guide, a very sublime ending, I think this game set the bar very high. I still have to try 4 paths, and then, I think I'll feel that emptiness...
@@incelstar only renegade aeon can ascended, become deity as a normal Mortal technically is a "law breaking". So true aeon cannot ascend as they are law
@@incelstar how did you mess it up. Didnt you act lawfully the whole time? Seems hard to miss unless you go outside your alignment I only played a little of aeon did not like it all. Going around drezen judging people. I'm sure it gets better later. But I restarted as a magus eldtrich scion. And I'm gonna go azata with zippy magics seems like a fun build. Yea aeon just wasnt really feeling it I dont know why. I loved the demon though. But I didnt ascend I scarficed myself at the end. I missed alot of stuff though and kinda rushed the last chapter cause the game was so long lol. But I love it. This time I'm gonna take my time with the azata
@@priestskorge i basically acted more like a devil than an aeon and i was also good. So in the end instead of a transformation i had to kill mephistopheles to become a renegade or become a devil. I had the power to go into angelic aspect at will which was cool
For those trying to get this ending on patch 1.1.0k (released on October 28 on steam): -Save before the last fight (with Areelu + demons lords) -If the demons lords at the end don't drop crystals, it is worth trying to reload -In my case reloading wasn't enought, I restarted the game twice and then they both dropped a crystal (both appeared on the same pillar)
This guide needs an update, because I can personally confirm two things: First of all, the True Aeon CAN get the ascension ending. You just have to choose to not rewrite the past during the battle of Threshold. That will let you go on to fight Areelu the normal way. Second of all, you do NOT need to accept the Mythic powers from Areelu's Lab, or Nocticula's Palace, because in my play through, I rejected both of them and was still able to complete this ending.
The first one is an update from a recent patch. For the second one you do not HAVE to reach mythic level 10 but that means you will miss out on one of seven possible ways to convince Areelu you are her child. As I said in the guide you do not need all of them to convince her. Congrats on achieving Ascension.
@@SlanderedGaming You still get Mythic rank 10, even if you reject the power she offers you. Instead of gaining your Mythic ranks from Areelu's help, your power increases by drawing upon your hidden reserves of strength.
Hey, i am glad our guide helped you and so much other people. Also, to point out: 14:02 - as evil mythic you can kill Galfrey and get the lexicon off her corpse
Oh cool thank you for confirming that. I knew you could kill her but wasn't sure if the Lexicon would be on her body. I have added this information into the pinned post at the top.
Dammm, that's a lot of work to do, but I'm willing to give a shot, to make demon mom happy. Thanks for the guide, it's much better to see each step, then read it. Keep it up good work my man.
Thanks Samori! I'm really enjoying your channel; I appreciate that you seem just as nuts about this amazing game as me :-) I burned up my whole holiday break only to fail to get the ascension ending using just the advice on the Steam b-boards, but after watching your video (and spending a couple weeks replaying chapters 3-6) I did it...WOO HOO!
Just got the full ascension ending as a Devil (pre aeon). I did cheat a bit to get the crystal dagger, but otherwise, thanks to this guide and some other things I read, I got to complete it. Thank you :D
Thanks. I only watched the first 3 chapters and stopped as i already missed some requirements. Dark souls 3 level of obscure ending will do as you suggested and try on my next playthrough. Saved your guide and will come back to it later. Great content by the way
I wish you would show all the different endings because a lot of us either don't have the desire or the time to go the game for all the different endings. I would very much appreciated your time and effort in doing this for us and I believe you would be the only CZcams channel to do a video on showing all the different endings for this game. I sure you would receive a whole lot of views if you were to do it. Thank's again for the guide and the information.
I plan to definitely showcase as many endings as I can. So far regular Angel, regular Trickster, and Ascension Trickster is up. Working on regular Legend right now.
Jeez this game is soo huge and complicated I just gave up 😮for me there’s just too many options and not enough time.. I only got one life lol. People must have found out about this by data mining seems impossible to have just stumbled across this end. Respect to those that finish this great game
Your video got me back into it think it's a case of an hour or r two here and there and not worry about getting every achievement. Every time I level up and see all those options my mind boggles to the depths and love owlcat put in to this game seems wrong not to finish it
I got this on my first playthrough. The only thing I looked up was the date range - I knew the chances of getting it naturally was almost zero (I never saw an NPC like the Pulura stargazers mention it either. Dunno if that's a bug or not, but there it is). Saw some people mentioned a date range so that's what prompted me to look it up. Everything else I just lucked into fortunately :) . Very satisfying ending! I got the whole party + Areelu ending. Angel path.
Not sure if this was mentioned before but if you play as a Trickster you can use Trick Fate when trying to combine the Lexicon, use it on the 3 most difficult roll you have to make and you will roll 20 for those 3, you then only need to roll successfully the remaining one and the perception.
Finished the game today. Fantastic game! Played as a ranger-demon hunter Angel. Fits great with the story. Didn’t get the secret ending, but went in blind so that’s expected 😊
On Aeon - the reason that a True Aeon can't ascend is that they consider the Worldwound to be a crime that needs to be written out of history entirely. There is a hidden Rebel Aeon counter in the game that checks to see how tightly you follow the Aeon path in attempting to unmake the Worldwound, things like convincing Xanthir Vang to research nahyndrian crystals for you instead of creating mythic demons. I haven't finished playing Aeon yet myself, but the conditions for Rebel Aeon are tighter even than *just* the Ascension ending itself, so if you want to become an ascended Aeon it would be best to follow a specific guide for it.
I think I locked myself out of it by breaking the wand in Act 2 in leepers smile. This means I do not get to Zacharius and do not get one of the elven notes.
A patch removed the elven note from that location and placed it somewhere else. Also you do not HAVE to complete Storyteller's quest to ascend it just makes things easier.
@@SlanderedGaming Thanks for the info. WHen I asked in the forum somebody also mentioned that this mission is important for a certain decree that could be crucial. Is this the case?
Spoiler Alert: Thank you. This video is in depth, believe it or not, I played as a Demon on my first playthrough with no guides and closely got this right. Things I shouldn't have done or did do: I got all the storytellers notes. I gave the first part of the Lexicon to Queen Galfrey 🤦🏽♂️ (You can kill her and get it off her corpse before facing Deskari's priest, Deskari falls afterward). If not, she will not trust you if she lives as you state when back in Drezen...and since I didn't sadly most of my companions left me in that instant so they all faced my Demonic rage: instant death!!! I kept Suture alive and freed him. I showed Shamira the purple knife 🤦🏽♂️. I told Areelu, you need to tell me everything first 😀. I had 2 Nahyndrian crystals. I stopped Mustafen. Etc. Etc...such as giving his heart back to the Hand of the Inheritor and he trusted me...and so on. I didn't make the time cut off of 4717, it was 4722, dammit the crusades kept me busy and didn't account the time that u stated. I killed Areelu and myself due to Demonic rage sacrifice to the Worldwound 🤣🤣🤣, so Game Over showed for me! 🤣 That was my Ascenscion in a nutshell!🤣
There is a very important bit missing from Colphyra mines. You need to learn that the demon lords can not resist a summon from their designated arch priests or priestesses through conversation with his daughter before he is summoned.
What does the Pulura Shrine do by "clearing the skies" before you enter Threshold? I forgot to click it and entered anyway. Later when I got control of my outside "B team" and had to defend the camp, I found I could still click it, so I did, but I'm not sure what it actually did.
10:22 - The video is a year old, so it's probably been mentioned already: a true Aeon prevents Areelu Vorlesh from becoming a demon and opening the Worldwound by travelling into the past and fighting an easier version of Areelu. This is why the Aeon can't ascend.
Most people think you cant go lich or full evil and keep your paladin, that isn't true you have answer you questions lawfully and evil as much as you can. If you stay lawful she wont leave.
So complicated….yet still easier than falling in love with a fey…. Tbh I feel like the normal ending to some paths are just as good even a little better. Though it was a nice surprise for a secret ending.
Hello, one question: I´m on the lich path but I only chooses good option in Act 4 to gain the inheritors trust. When I try to give his heart back he responds his heart is beating (with the blue commantary that he trust me) but I don´t play furhter because I don´t know if the evil path locked me out of the secret ending if I give his heart back even i he tust me?
Sadly the bug with Deskari and baphomet is still there. I was not able to ascend the whole party because of this, but hey, ascension is ascension i guess.
Yeah this game has some strange achievements. I got one by accident last night that I didn't even know was a thing. I think it's called "A Very Important Deed" ? Or something like that. Apparently, in a single playthrough, you need to rescue the ale cart during the Defender's Heart attack, AND rescue all of the courtesans in Daeran's mansion when the demon's attack. Apparently only like 3% of players on Steam have pulled that off? I frankly didn't even know it was something to do xD
😂😂😂 Yeah it's weird the things that will pop an achievement for you. One of these days I will turn the game down to easy and pick that one up. Most of the time a Courtesan gets slaughtered before I even get to make a move.
@@SlanderedGaming Yeah I know! I mean you have zero control over the courtesans in that scene, so it's basically all up to the RNG gods if they survive or not. I do think they are more coded to flee the threats, compared to the Drunk Nobles? But no clue. First time I played that fight in turn based combat, I secretly was hoping they were all some kind of monastic/brothel sect of monks, and the fact that they were all nekked wouldn't matter, and they'd just start whoopin' butt. Way of the Pleasured Fisting martial style! xD Sadly no, they were just nekked, and running around in a panic.
@@happyninja42 Way of the Slippery Fist 🤜 💦 heh But yeah damn it's so difficult to have them not accidentally kill themselves by triggering attacks of opportunity with their frenzied running around in a panic
@@mduckernz I think the trick, is to prioritize the enemies in order of initiative. Regardless of distance and other factors. If you can simply kill them before they get to move, you will keep pushing the number of attacks so far back down the roster, that very few of them will have a chance to go, and thus less likely to hit a courtesan? *shrugs* That's usually my standard operating procedure on who to focus fire in combat, assuming there isn't some priority enemy with a nasty ability that I want to remove ASAP. That might help you accomplish it.
@@SlanderedGaming You're seriously one of my favorite youtube people. You should think about live streaming. I think you would do well once people see your personality. Besides anyone who likes my lame jokes has already won.
About to try this on my playthrough shortly. Hopefully it checks out. I achieved just about everything here that was mentioned without knowing it. I didn't even know there was an ascension path/secret ending until chapter 5. About to enter the Threshold. I had to use the Toy Box in a couple instances to make sure I was set for this.
@@SlanderedGaming Ugh. This failed which otherwise I felt was a perfect playthrough for a lawfully good angel character. I ascended, but only me. I had crystals, happened to complete so much of what was covered in this video without even knowing about ascension chapter 5. When I defeated Areelu, and selected the "I've uncovered your plan" dialogue option, and then selected the "I want to know, I want to follow" option, I only had a couple dialogue options and according to Neoseeker, there should be 5-7 listed. So I didn't get to fight Deskari and Baphomet again and only I ascended. It would be nice to know what I missed which resulted in those dialogue options missing.
Spoiler for True Aeon: They actively stop past Areelu from opening the Worldwound to begin with. This is why they cannot ascend as the Aeon also ceases to exist once this fight is over. Also I have done the Angel Ascension and I'm pretty sure Killing Mustafen in his Lab is part of the Mythic rank 9 for Angel so Nurah's presence shouldn't affect the Pulara's Falls interaction. As to which I think Angel has the best chance of Ascension due to the Mythic path having the Living Wardstones characters that can lock Deskari and Baphomet into being unable to run away.
The Wardstone mechanic is super cool but it doesn't impact Ascension. Either way you have to face Deskari and Baphomet twice. Good point about Mutasafen.
Regarding 29:40 1. The crib in front of the bed first 2. The (childs) drawings on the table second 3. The book on the table, that's in the place where you were teleported previously in the real-world lab, pick them in order to obtain "Embroidered Gloves"
I suggest you to try a updated guide to this going on demon mythic path because there is in Alushnyyra a quest from Yozz who wants you to kill leader of shadow demons... in his lair there is another Midnight bolt. I am pretty sure you know this, so it would be pretty cool to add that in your video. :)
I think there are actually multiple things that have changed since this guide even though this guide can still be used to ascend. At some point I might have time to comb through and make a video on the updates.
@28:53 I just played this section. First turn my archer fired a midnight bolt and there was a brief interaction. After the fight, it goes into a cinematic of sorts and I was presented with a dialogue option to pick up the crystal. Hopefully that will help people to get consistent results with that battle.
Just as an FYI, I followed this (and the other one on steam) I thought pretty closely lol. I got the ascension ending, but the Pulura shrine at Threshold was not there for me and did not stop me from getting the ending.
Thank you for this video, I just completed the Ascension today. I am quite disappointed with the ending and how long it took for me to wait for the certain ascension time. 😰😰
@@SlanderedGaming I completed it with angel. It just doesn't make sense for good mythic paths (angel, azata and dragon). I would take the test of starstone like Iomadae and Cailean, instead of using the crystal. This ascension makes my angel KC a power hungry god despite which really opposite for most of her actions. However, for a trickster and a lich would make sense for me. I also expected that Iomadae or Noticular should show up during the last conversation. Ember didn't like godhood but she still took ascension meanwhile my Nenio rejectet it. I just wish Owlcat will provide the test of starstone for the proper ascension as DLC.
Yup but you can ascend with just five crystals so I was confused as to why that fact would prevent them from ascending. Looks like it's actually a storyline issue but might get changed in the next patch.
Thank you very much! I was waiting for this guide. I tried to reach this ending during my previous playthrough (dragon) without any guides but I messed up a few steps. Will try to ascend my trickster when I get to it. On a side note the locusts at your video indicate that you re currently playing a swarm yet you said swarm cannot ascend. I'm a bit confused.
It's a bug in the game where sometimes if you load a save where you are swarm the locusts will stay on the screen even if you switch to another save. All the clips are from my Angel or Trickster playthrough regardless of any swarms you see.
i didn't even know this was an option. I will try this in my lich playthrough! I just finished my angel playthrough and am now going back to kingmaker to play some of the mod classes while I wait on bug fixes. this game is so buggy right now its annoying at times. especially since it's such a great game. what bugs me is when i went into thresh hold it failed a quest for me to help nocticula win some war in the abyss. so i reloaded and old save and went back and i didn't even have the quest or any way back to the abyss from act 5 so I am un sure what that was. I also couldnt get to the hell knight camp for regils quest because of an invisible enemy fortress which for some odd reason it was at the dragon camp and i couldn't move my army there. so i have no idea why it was blocking my main group from moving to the hell knight camp when my army could go back and forth with no issue.
Yeah there are definitely quite a few bugs happening still with the game. At least Owlcat is working diligently to get them taken care of. I know some games that will be buggy until the day I die. LOL
If possible I would like to know the story how this ending was discovered, step by step, was it data mined, was it a bunch of people sharing clues or is it obvious if you just carefully read every book/item description? I mean some things were planely written, like the power date, and some research never popped up or did pop up but revealed no additional info, maybe bugs, so how was this pieced together considering the buggy mess and numerous required skill checks, some impossible if not specifically prepared for them.
If you look at the comments section of the Steam Guide peole go back and forth alot about how they find certain things. Some of it was definitely data mined while others you can kind of pick up from dialogue and research decree descriptions.
Thanks for this. I think I sold 1 midnight bolt by mistake in Act 1 but I should be okay. It was in Drezden so I'll buy it back lol. And I'm demon so I can technically get 7 crystals. AND I still do have the purple knife and did the correct decisions in act 3 already, which was lucky lol
@@SlanderedGaming Yeah I must have missed something. I mean, why else put them in the game with a specific sequence to unlock them. I thought maybe she might talk about them at the end of the game as one of the soft checks for Ascension but no. Maybe something broke with a patch (shakes fist at 1.2). I know I've heard others say that she'll comment on the fact that you're wearing her gloves so maybe I missed something or the devs made a change. RPGs are so full of threads. I always laugh when people complain about bugs in them.
One thing I want to note, and I dont know if this has been covered - the end of Nenio's quest. That boss is a damn pain to get the crystal from, not helped by her using illusions and clones
@@SlanderedGaming Any recommendations as to WHEN to get the crystal? Like what phase of the fight? I missed it the first time and don't desire to run my Legend Cavalier through it again - more to improve my plans with my Trickster Sword Saint.
As the commander looked towards their companions. Mythic power surging through their veins. The world wound churning with immense power. Blood dripping from their chest. They couldn’t help it.
They smiled.
Reaching a hand towards them the mortal turned Mythic smiled.
“Join me, my pantheon.”
The shocked faces were his reward.
From the complete flabbergasts of Seelah and Lann. The unbelievable chuckles lf Greybor and Daeran. The warm smiles of Ember and Sosiel. The shocked faces of Arueshalae and Woljif. And even the stoic yet wide eyed faces of Regill and Trevor.
Even Nenio in her near unflappable personality stopped writing to look up.
What was offered. What was just going to be given. Shock couldn’t begin to describe it.
“I promised you, all of you. A longer life, a better life, a chance to see and learn, and chance to grow and change. I promised I would even the playing field.” The commander said their voice still so strong even as their life leaked from their chest.
“Ascend with me. And let’s finally do it. Make a better world. My pantheon.”
One by one they accepted the commanders hand. And one by one they rose up. And 11 new Demi-gods rose to meet Golarion.
I was surprised though world wound have enough power to make like a dozen Divine being in one night.
Owlcat is generous here giving us wholesome ending.
I've said it before, but Owlcat made an amazing game with a tremendous amount of depth. If your first playthrough was purely for fun, and you go back for a second run following these steps you'll have some amazing experiences waiting for you. This is some really impressive story and mechanical writing and planning.
Edit: I forgot to mention I really enjoyed how you demonstrated and and set up this guide. Easy to follow and entertaining.
Thanks glad you found it helpful. Yeah I am blown away by how solid the writing and detail is in this game.
what about the gamebreaking bugs? this game is pile of crap.
vagran i used to watch ur swtor videos but ea ruins everything and i dont even play anymore :( and i didnt know you played wrath :D
@@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou Oh wow, small world. Yeah I don't play the game anymore either, but it was fun while it lasted.
@@H44nz you and your life are pile of crap, this game is amazing and most of the best rpgs had bugs and gamebreaking bugs like arcanum/vampires the masquearade bloodlines and so on, you have to be an idiot to judge an rpg game like this because of bugs
Thank you for making this guide. This game is popular, but so complex that there is very little community information available. For the few hardcore players out there trying to get achievements like myself, this is hugely appreciated.
My pleasure!
Thank you for the fantastic video. I'll answer your aeon question below, and offer one recommendation for new players right here.
The Recommendation: Don't go Aeon for your first playthrough.
The Answer: ! ! ! ! *AEON SPOILERS BELOW* ! ! ! !
[The Answer]
A true Aeon is compelled to judge Areelu by going back in time and taking her out before she has a chance to create either them or the Worldwound. The journey towards this conclusion is only fun if you know what the unaltered timeline looks like, and is, ultimately - and perhaps appropriately - going to leave you feeling a little used, and a little hollow.
[Further Bitching]
This path is built up as a transcendental, cosmic experience beyond the ken of mortals, gods, or demon lords. What it culminates in is a celestial kick in the nuts from uncaring cosmic forces that are only too happy to see you yeeted from the timeline, same as every other "mistake" that you've been retconning on your travels.
An Aeon player is not an Aeon. They're not impartial observers residing in a layer above the mundane chessboard. They're a pawn for those greater forces, and face the fate of all pawns when a game is finished.
You don't join them at the end. You don't ascend to the cosmos and join your Aeonnic space buddies for a game of space bowling and a space beer. You're simply corrected, and that's it.
It's appropriate in an ouroboros 'it ends where it began' kind of way. The universe corrects a mistake with the mistake. The scales are most balanced when they're empty. Fine. Whatever. I'm rolling Azata and punching everything between my guy and a happy ending with Arueshalae. The cosmic balance can go fuck itself.
Yup that's exactly what I heard which is amazing. Really looking forward to seeing that story play out.
I like to see that even the most “good” mythic paths like Angel and Azata can’t make the most “good” choice in the end and made the ultimate “good” sacrifice, themselves, resulting in being same selfish persons as all evil paths regardless their “good” alignment (:
Absolutely based AzatagodCHAD.
All the reasons you listed is exactly why the Aeon path is my absolute favorite haha. Got pure goosebumps when my character got the blue aura when he returned to reality after altering the past. As soon as that happened, I knew exactly what I had to do to maintain the balance.
Holly shit, it is impossible to achive without a guide! I used that video and all went smoothly. Thanks man for that video!
My pleasure! Glad you were able to get the ending!
Spoilers for Trickster Act 5:
You can actually *trick* the members of the counsel to fight you. If this happens use a midnight bolt on Socothbenoth instead. This is because you no longer fight Nocticula. This will net you the right amount of crystals (granted you got the other ones too) for the party to ascend.
You know I could tell that was an option but wasn't sure how to pull it off in Act 5. Might need to revisit Trickster. Thanks!
Thx for the guide. Got the ascension ending in my 1st playthrough thx to this video as a Gold Dragon Mythic Path.
Didn't need Nuria though, I killed her on Drezen and still managed to make Mutafasen to stay on Pullura's Fall and save the researchers at the same time. Although one of the researchers sacrificed himself to close Mutas portal, but the rest of the crew survived.
Nice! Maybe one of the patches changed this.
I have tried to do this on my own 3 times now and always miss a couple of steps, this will come handy for finally doing it right.
Thx for the guide, I'm sure it took a lot of work.
My pleasure glad you found value in the content.
@@SlanderedGaming Also I did picked the gloves on 43:11, apparently you have to pick them first (before any other item in the shack) and it is mentioned as the 7th dialogue, at least that is what it said: "you did pick up my son's favorite belongings first"
First of all, thank you for this guide, it's impossible to tell how much you helped me with this video, i've seen couple of guides in the Internet before but yours is just brilliant, it have literally everything from dates, locations, calendar to some hidden tips I haven't seen nowhere, I'm sure this video was a ton of work, well done!
Also, i can confirm that everything from "Areelu Lab part 2" works. (not sure about accepting powers tho)
Ps
And I can also give a little tip for those who, like me, have done all the sidequests, all research and everything else in Act 5 and are waiting for the desired month, you can send your party to the place farthest from the capital, put auto crusade mode and start swap your party members, the further you go from the capital, the more time will pass in the game after each swap, it took me 7 days for each one, you can skip quickly enough, and the ac mod is needed for skipping useless demon fights at the border, if you have already done everything, then turning it on will not affect ending, you will still have all dialogs with areelu about your research before ac mode
Thank you! Glad you found the content helpful!
Thanks for the guide. Also want to add this considering 27:00 about letting Nura help you. You can totally accept her help with Mutasafen, being on an Angel mythic path, you will meet him again in his Laboratory and can continue with your mythic path etc.
Awesome thanks for confirming that!
Nenio's questline was literally the hardest quest I've ever played in ANY videogame. I'm not good at puzzles to begin with, and even with a guide, I couldn't do it before. Thanks for the help! This game is...deep... lol.
A note I'd like to add for the Ineluctable Prison if playing as an Azata: Be sure to find Hepzamirah after dealing with the Hand of the Inheritor and do NOT destroy the Prison until then. Because once that happens, can't go back and have to use a mod like Toybox to fix things. Other Mythic paths might be able to go back, but I wasn't able to as an Azata.
Good call out. None of the Mythic Paths can return to the Prison once they have left.
I did this on my "good" lich playthrough. I was not disappointed. It was a great ending, almost all my companions ascended (seelah left and wenduag refused) and Demon Mom, plus I got to give Pharasma a little "up yours". I hear the first DLC continues from the end of the game(or at least we get to use a full power char), so I can't wait to see it.
Yeah I agree it's a great ending and looking forward to the story continuing.
How exactly did you have good lich run? I heard something about killing Zacharius and Siding with Geb but that sounds like some sort of rumor rather than in game thing.
@@kubakwak921 You just pick the good options? Nothing preventing you from being good alignment after you do the Mythic Path Alignment quest. I started out with a Neutral Evil character, pick mainly good options, was neutral when the quest popped up to "not be good" and just talked to Zach to pass the quest while being true neutral. After that you dont need to worry about keeping alignment to below good.
Also, most companions wont leave you if you earn loyalty (I'm sure there is a way to make seelah stay too).
In my playthrough I saved the Queen, only raised Staunton and Kestogar, didnt pick the Lich option in Act4 drezen (so didnt raise the dead). I Eared Zacharius loyalty by killing both, other advisors (more to it but...) I basically did all the stuff I'd have done on an angel playthrough (bar what I needed for the demi god ascendancy)
Also you can kill Zach (his wand/phylactery is in the ziggeraught) and ally with Geb. I've done that in another playthrough. I dunno if there is a definitive "good" lich ending, I just picked the good choices through out the game. All my ending slides were positive due so....(well bar wenduag)
@@Dinvan I see! It always brothered me that it seemed like you can't play as lawful neutral lich, Ainz Ooal Gown style. Glad to know I actually can remain not mustache twirling Evil.
Did this on my Azata playthrough. Chuckled at ending text where ascended Regil said that Hell lacks discipline :D
Yeah I thought that was awesome. 😂
In order to have Areelu summon Baphomet and Deskari, you must make her high priest of both. And to achieve this, you must rid the current holders of these positions: Deskari's Echo and Horzalah. But you have to learn that from Hepzamirah's ghost in the labyrinth after you fought against Iomedae's Champion.
Where is horzalah? I’ve completed everything in act 5 other than Iz and still can’t find them?
@@JudgeAlan501 Did you go with Greybor when he asked you? How did you treat Greybor?
@@Nikiokoin act 4 I did all of graybors quest, gave him his half of money and told him it’s his choice if he wants to join the assassin’s. He has not come talk to me at all in act 5
@@JudgeAlan501 Did Greybor approach you in the citadel and tell you that an assassin is after you? Did the assassin attack you in your bedroom?
And what have you done in act 4? Did you enter Willodus' mansion and kill him?
Yes we killed willodus in act4, no he has not come to tell me there is an assassin coming to kill me
I have seen few written guides, some more precise than others but a video like this is definitely more easy to follow. Thank you for the time you spent on making this video!
My pleasure! Glad you found the information valuable!
32:56 Regarding the Heart of the Inheritor, you can DEFINITELY give his heart back even if he doesn't trust you and STILL get the Ascension. (The dialogue with Areelu in the end won't even bring up the Heart and the Inheritor's fate which is why the rumor of it blocking you of the secret ending is most likely false.)
34:12 For the Ineluctable Prison, you can kill the Worm first before fighting the Hand of the Inheritor. However, when you go to Hepzamirah's location in the Prison BEFORE fighting the Inheritor, you will see no one, so you need to defeat the Inheritor first. If you somehow forgot to talk to Hepzamirah and left the Prison after defeating the Hand of the Inheritor, just go back to the prison. She will still be there for you to talk to.
Nice I'll add that into the pin thank you.
i just finished my 7th playthrough with a arcanist trickster i gave him his heart when he hated me for being chaotic i got ascension
Did another playthrough as a Trickster + ascension ending and I'd like to add. It is not necessary to kill the Worm or the Ashen One in the Inelectuble Prison. Just head to where Hepzamirah is and talk to her after defeating Inheribro then leave dungeon. But hey extra exp is always nice :D
On my 4th playthrough I finally tried to achieve this using a written guide. I failed somewhere, but on 5th playthrough using this I succeeded. It was a long journey, but well worth it so THANK YOU! =)
Glad I could help!
I should mention in the long quest involving that advanced technology dungeon, you can attain a powerful helmet that really boosts your Will. It can definitely help with Will Checks
You must finished the game between the 16 and 21th Gozran but there's not a limited year ;), on my last run i have finished the game with 6 cristals and Ascension in 4718. With the increasing content, it's normal, otherwise you would have to miss out on quests, which, as an rpg player, is difficult to accept.
Interesting okay that's good to know.
@@SlanderedGaming you're welcome :)
So much options that you can't go in like that.... Only the game developpers knows all this to achieve full ascension....It's amazing...
Yeah they did a great job.
Best Pathfinder video ever sir
:)
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey guys. For those of you who are like me can't be bothered with keeping track on elven pages and constantly missing them - there's actually a very easy way to combine Lexicon yourself even if all of your Knowledge and Lore skills are literally 0.
The most important part for this is level 20 cleric and domain powers - you going to need Touch of Good, Visions of Madness and Touch of Law. Sosiel can do this for you unless you already leveled him up in a different way. If so - hire a merc. You can get both Good and Law domains during character creation if you pick Erastil, Iomedae or Torag as deity. Madness can be added as impossible domain mythic ability. Make sure you have +8 to INT and WIS buffs (easiest source - level 20 brown-fur transmuter merc). You also going to need character who can cast greater heroism and someone to cook Mulled Wine or Lucky Hand Sandwich (if you are willing to deal with Enigma).
To combine Lexicon you gonna have to travel to an area where you can buff your MC with all this good stuff. If you're in Drezen the closest location is Lost Chapel. Go there.
Rest, cook Mulled Wine/Lucky Hand Sandwich (+4/+5 Meal), cast on MC: Guidance (+1 Competence), Greater Heroism (+4 Morale), Visions of Madness - Skill Checks (+10 Untyped, need to overcome characters spell resistance to apply), Touch of Good (+10 Sacred) and then as a bonus Touch of Law for guarantied 11 rolls.
So provided you already have INT/WIS bonuses, stacking all of this allows you pass all of Lexicon checks without any problems. On Core the toughest one is 41. I don't know if the checks are harder on higher difficulty levels.
That's fantastic advice thank you!
An alternative solution for Pulura Falls I found to rescue the Stargazers:
If Ramien ( Desnan priest you saved from Hulrun`s clutches/ Act I ) sides with you, then you can safely deal with Mutasafen.
Awesome thanks for calling this out. I added it into the pinned post.
Could you explain more of this? Siding with Ramien means killing Hurlun?
@@martecoronel That. Or, you show Hulrun The Light, but send Ramien to Defender`s Heart (I suppose) .
Fun Fact: _The Glass Key_ (1942) is also a great film noir movie.
(InB4 someone in the comments points out "It's from a book, ya nab!" - I know but I can't authoritatively say the book is great because I haven't read it. Instead tell me I should, and I'll add it to the groaning backlog of books I need to read).
LOL I never read The Glass Key so cannot comment.
Technically the Ascension ending doesn't close the World Wound, it just makes the plane that it connects to yours instead of Deskari and Baphomet's. Which can be a good or bad thing for Golarion, depending on what Mythic Path you took.
Me and Urgathoa gonna be partying in Nerosyan then
Yup the situation is not really resolved just changed.
This is a problem for the hero of the Pathfinder 3, and now for now guys, it's time for a full flex guro demon party
It's Demon Invasion 2.0 in my playthrough.
i like how this time the secret ending is way more impossible to achieve and all it does is just make you a god. i know i know "oh wow godhood" but it doesn't give you anything mechanically in the game is just like getting a colored sash at the end of a competition. its like "huh, neat"
LOL Well we really won't know what it does until the DLC right? That's when you can see what if any additional stats we are going to get.
@The Infinity Sock so we'll be like Jim Carrey in Bruce Almighty then?
@@SlanderedGaming idk, I think it's actually pretty lame that they hid it behind such random easily missed things.
Secret, fine, hard to get, fine, locked behind random items you have zero indication of being important in the first 20 min of the game, moronic.
@@arkainin4638 Its their way of trying to ensure you come back for round 2. LOL
What is the name of this "colored sash"? i would like to search more info about it.
It was damn tedious to follow guides to get this ending. There’s so many steps you could easily forget about.
Yeah no joke and I still almost screwed it up. This guide took forever to put together.
still, its easier than romance Nyrissa, and help defeat the lantern king and make her your queen.
Its amazing, i was just planning my 4th playthrouh (I usually dont like replaying games), and only now i have find out there are options in endings to ascend. I absolutely love this game. Also thank you so much for your work!
My pleasure! Glad you are enjoying it so much!
I beat WotC when it first came out and decided to play it again later when the bugs were fixed. Had no idea any of this was even a thing so now on my second playthough I'm going for ascension. This guide is fantastic, concise and clear with annotations on top of it. Thanks.
Glad you have found it helpful!
Idk about Baphomet in the final act, but for some reason Deskari dropped 2 Nahyndrian crystals when hit/killed with a midnight bolt. He died on the same hit from the bolt. Accidentally killed Baphomet with an overpowered Trever so idk if he is supposed to drop one.
Some people have said that fight is bugged again where they had trouble getting the crystals to drop. Hopefully it's all cleared up when the enhanced edition comes around.
When you realize the very first choice of the game is at the very beginning but you're around the end of act 4 so you use toybox to change it.
By the way, if you do want to use toybox to change that etude, go into Search n Pick, search "Areelucrossbowrefused" and select "Unstart". Now search "Areelucrossbowtaken" and select "Start". Do not select "Complete".
No balls. Start your game over like a man.
@@jupiterrising887 Nah, not a fan of going through character generation. Did not have a save back then before the attack started. Even if I did, it's likely beyond outdated.
i know this is true but it sounds like all the old pokemon rumors when i was a kid.
get a level 100 mewtwo
take certain number of steps while its in the day care
take it to a location.
use a move on a hidden object...
just how specific this ending is sounds like a schoolyard rumor lol.
I never thought about this but it's extremely accurate! 😂😂
Great video, and I don't know if anyone will be reading this after 2 years, but I think there's a couple things that deserve pointing out:
1) If you romance Galfrey and get enough crystals, she will also ascend with you
2) During the ending of the Treasure of the Midnight Isles DLC, you are able to get another crystal, meaning you can have a Mythic other than Trickster or Demon and still be able to skip Nenio's final quest (up to personal preference if you think the quest or Midnight Isles are worse)
3) SPOILERS for the Aeon Mythic ending: True Aeon cannot achieve ascension because at the end of the game, you roll back time so that the Worldwound never even existed in the first place, therefore you never got your powers (and possibly never existed either I don't remember exactly). However if you are on the path of True Aeon you still can make the choice to not reverse time and ascend, however this will switch you over to Renegade Aeon.
4) The year does not matter when entering the Threshold, the game only checks the day and month, although it is very unlikely that you will be entering in later years unless you deliberately skip time.
The amount of information you have displayed is awesome. Keep up the great love.
Thank you!
I wonder. The missing check to convince her your her child. If you have the lucky bracers you begin with the game with she will mention she made them for her child (who has your name surprise surprise)
I remembered it playing my azata and her mentioning them cause I literally never took them off.
Yup and if you want the alternative choices towards the end there is a pair of gloves you can get in her lab that give you a luck bonus to AC and your stats.
There's also a perception check directly after the 4 knowledge/lore checks you need to pass to combine the 2 lexicon parts. The DC is lower than the lore/knowledge checks, but still quite high. I respecced specifically to be able to pass those checks then stumbled on the perception on 1 attempt, (had to reload & buff to get through it).
Oh good point I forgot to mention that.
@The Infinity Sock Mine was 27 dc, though I think they change with difficulty setting.
Thank you so much for doing this. Haven't finished yet but I'm trying to get full party ascension for my first ascension run. It will be my forth full play through and still I would have no chance without the information from this video. Picked up some of the info and clues in my other runs but I missed at least a third or half of what you list in this video. Well done dude and thanks again for the time stamps, I'm sure those will come in handy.
My pleasure!
This is brilliant mate. No ambiguity and well detailed.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! Be sure to subscribe, more guides coming next week.
Thanks for the guide, a very sublime ending, I think this game set the bar very high. I still have to try 4 paths, and then, I think I'll feel that emptiness...
My pleasure!
10:14 it becomes very clear in the Aeon's story. tbh it's kinda dumb but it fits super well with the path
Ahhhh okay I haven't played through Aeon yet.
I messed up my aeon playthrough so i didn't achieve a transformation which technically made me a renigade
@@incelstar only renegade aeon can ascended, become deity as a normal Mortal technically is a "law breaking". So true aeon cannot ascend as they are law
@@incelstar how did you mess it up. Didnt you act lawfully the whole time? Seems hard to miss unless you go outside your alignment I only played a little of aeon did not like it all. Going around drezen judging people. I'm sure it gets better later. But I restarted as a magus eldtrich scion. And I'm gonna go azata with zippy magics seems like a fun build. Yea aeon just wasnt really feeling it I dont know why. I loved the demon though. But I didnt ascend I scarficed myself at the end. I missed alot of stuff though and kinda rushed the last chapter cause the game was so long lol. But I love it. This time I'm gonna take my time with the azata
@@priestskorge i basically acted more like a devil than an aeon and i was also good. So in the end instead of a transformation i had to kill mephistopheles to become a renegade or become a devil. I had the power to go into angelic aspect at will which was cool
For those trying to get this ending on patch 1.1.0k (released on October 28 on steam):
-Save before the last fight (with Areelu + demons lords)
-If the demons lords at the end don't drop crystals, it is worth trying to reload
-In my case reloading wasn't enought, I restarted the game twice and then they both dropped a crystal (both appeared on the same pillar)
Interesting well at least the issue is halfway fixed.
BIG BRAIN TIME 🤣I feel like I need PHD to understand this game, thank u sir for your guide
My pleasure glad you enjoyed it.
This guide needs an update, because I can personally confirm two things: First of all, the True Aeon CAN get the ascension ending. You just have to choose to not rewrite the past during the battle of Threshold. That will let you go on to fight Areelu the normal way. Second of all, you do NOT need to accept the Mythic powers from Areelu's Lab, or Nocticula's Palace, because in my play through, I rejected both of them and was still able to complete this ending.
The first one is an update from a recent patch. For the second one you do not HAVE to reach mythic level 10 but that means you will miss out on one of seven possible ways to convince Areelu you are her child. As I said in the guide you do not need all of them to convince her. Congrats on achieving Ascension.
@@SlanderedGaming You still get Mythic rank 10, even if you reject the power she offers you. Instead of gaining your Mythic ranks from Areelu's help, your power increases by drawing upon your hidden reserves of strength.
Hey, i am glad our guide helped you and so much other people. Also, to point out: 14:02 - as evil mythic you can kill Galfrey and get the lexicon off her corpse
Oh cool thank you for confirming that. I knew you could kill her but wasn't sure if the Lexicon would be on her body. I have added this information into the pinned post at the top.
thanks for the walkthrough! after a month i finally finished the run and im so proud :)
Congratulations!! Glad the guide helped you. :)
Great vid. Will be using this guy for my next playthrough
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
Heay im very thankfull for Tutorials like these. Im german but u have such a smooth Voice that i undersood everything. Thank you !
You are welcome!
Dammm, that's a lot of work to do, but I'm willing to give a shot, to make demon mom happy. Thanks for the guide, it's much better to see each step, then read it. Keep it up good work my man.
Thanks glad you enjoyed the content!
Thanks Samori! I'm really enjoying your channel; I appreciate that you seem just as nuts about this amazing game as me :-) I burned up my whole holiday break only to fail to get the ascension ending using just the advice on the Steam b-boards, but after watching your video (and spending a couple weeks replaying chapters 3-6) I did it...WOO HOO!
Awesome!! Really glad the guide helped you!
Just got the full ascension ending as a Devil (pre aeon). I did cheat a bit to get the crystal dagger, but otherwise, thanks to this guide and some other things I read, I got to complete it.
Thank you :D
Congratulations! Glad you found this guide helpful.
Just started playing this on PS5. Really awesome guide man
Thank you! Glad you found it useful.
Thanks. I only watched the first 3 chapters and stopped as i already missed some requirements. Dark souls 3 level of obscure ending will do as you suggested and try on my next playthrough. Saved your guide and will come back to it later. Great content by the way
Thank you! Glad you found it useful.
Thanks for this! I'm keeping it handy as I progress through the storyline.
Awesome! Good luck!
@@SlanderedGaming I did it!
God that background music....they freakin NAILED the music in this game jesus.
Yeah I am a big fan of it.
I wish you would show all the different endings because a lot of us either don't have the desire or the time to go the game for all the different endings. I would very much appreciated your time and effort in doing this for us and I believe you would be the only CZcams channel to do a video on showing all the different endings for this game. I sure you would receive a whole lot of views if you were to do it. Thank's again for the guide and the information.
I plan to definitely showcase as many endings as I can. So far regular Angel, regular Trickster, and Ascension Trickster is up. Working on regular Legend right now.
Well that's a lot of work, give the man some time !
I am really grateful for this video. Thank you.
My pleasure!
Jeez this game is soo huge and complicated I just gave up 😮for me there’s just too many options and not enough time.. I only got one life lol. People must have found out about this by data mining seems impossible to have just stumbled across this end. Respect to those that finish this great game
"I only got one life" 😂😂
Your video got me back into it think it's a case of an hour or r two here and there and not worry about getting every achievement. Every time I level up and see all those options my mind boggles to the depths and love owlcat put in to this game seems wrong not to finish it
I got this on my first playthrough. The only thing I looked up was the date range - I knew the chances of getting it naturally was almost zero (I never saw an NPC like the Pulura stargazers mention it either. Dunno if that's a bug or not, but there it is). Saw some people mentioned a date range so that's what prompted me to look it up.
Everything else I just lucked into fortunately :) . Very satisfying ending! I got the whole party + Areelu ending. Angel path.
Awesome! The Stargazers never mention I think you can read it from the transcribed notes you research.
Not sure if this was mentioned before but if you play as a Trickster you can use Trick Fate when trying to combine the Lexicon, use it on the 3 most difficult roll you have to make and you will roll 20 for those 3, you then only need to roll successfully the remaining one and the perception.
Nice! Hadn't even thought about that but it makes perfect sense. Great call out.
Finished the game today. Fantastic game! Played as a ranger-demon hunter Angel. Fits great with the story. Didn’t get the secret ending, but went in blind so that’s expected 😊
Oh yeah it's a fantastic game. I have probably played it more than I have played any other game before.
Thanks for the great guide - keep up the great content.
My pleasure!
On Aeon - the reason that a True Aeon can't ascend is that they consider the Worldwound to be a crime that needs to be written out of history entirely. There is a hidden Rebel Aeon counter in the game that checks to see how tightly you follow the Aeon path in attempting to unmake the Worldwound, things like convincing Xanthir Vang to research nahyndrian crystals for you instead of creating mythic demons. I haven't finished playing Aeon yet myself, but the conditions for Rebel Aeon are tighter even than *just* the Ascension ending itself, so if you want to become an ascended Aeon it would be best to follow a specific guide for it.
Yikes okay thanks for noting that. I'll add it at the top.
I think I locked myself out of it by breaking the wand in Act 2 in leepers smile. This means I do not get to Zacharius and do not get one of the elven notes.
A patch removed the elven note from that location and placed it somewhere else. Also you do not HAVE to complete Storyteller's quest to ascend it just makes things easier.
@@SlanderedGaming Thanks for the info. WHen I asked in the forum somebody also mentioned that this mission is important for a certain decree that could be crucial. Is this the case?
@@samuel.andermatt What mission? Talking with Zacharius? No as far as I know that doesn't unlock any special decrees.
Spoiler Alert:
Thank you. This video is in depth, believe it or not, I played as a Demon on my first playthrough with no guides and closely got this right. Things I shouldn't have done or did do:
I got all the storytellers notes. I gave the first part of the Lexicon to Queen Galfrey 🤦🏽♂️ (You can kill her and get it off her corpse before facing Deskari's priest, Deskari falls afterward). If not, she will not trust you if she lives as you state when back in Drezen...and since I didn't sadly most of my companions left me in that instant so they all faced my Demonic rage: instant death!!! I kept Suture alive and freed him. I showed Shamira the purple knife 🤦🏽♂️. I told Areelu, you need to tell me everything first 😀. I had 2 Nahyndrian crystals. I stopped Mustafen. Etc. Etc...such as giving his heart back to the Hand of the Inheritor and he trusted me...and so on.
I didn't make the time cut off of 4717, it was 4722, dammit the crusades kept me busy and didn't account the time that u stated. I killed Areelu and myself due to Demonic rage sacrifice to the Worldwound 🤣🤣🤣, so Game Over showed for me! 🤣 That was my Ascenscion in a nutshell!🤣
Well that's one way to have fun! 😂😂
There is a very important bit missing from Colphyra mines. You need to learn that the demon lords can not resist a summon from their designated arch priests or priestesses through conversation with his daughter before he is summoned.
That conversation happens in Baphomet's realm and it's covered in this video.
What does the Pulura Shrine do by "clearing the skies" before you enter Threshold? I forgot to click it and entered anyway. Later when I got control of my outside "B team" and had to defend the camp, I found I could still click it, so I did, but I'm not sure what it actually did.
Hmmmm honestly I don't remember and it was never clear if that step is actually necessary to achieve Ascension.
10:22 - The video is a year old, so it's probably been mentioned already: a true Aeon prevents Areelu Vorlesh from becoming a demon and opening the Worldwound by travelling into the past and fighting an easier version of Areelu. This is why the Aeon can't ascend.
Most people think you cant go lich or full evil and keep your paladin, that isn't true you have answer you questions lawfully and evil as much as you can. If you stay lawful she wont leave.
Yup I am hoping to keep her in my Lich playthrough.
So complicated….yet still easier than falling in love with a fey….
Tbh I feel like the normal ending to some paths are just as good even a little better. Though it was a nice surprise for a secret ending.
Yeah the Fey was definitely harder than this. I like that the regular endings are so different so you can actually get enjoyment from both versions.
@@SlanderedGaming I thought it was worth it, its a cool thing and the dialogue with Areelu at the end is great, and to tell Pharasma to stuff it :)
Hello, one question:
I´m on the lich path but I only chooses good option in Act 4 to gain the inheritors trust. When I try to give his heart back he responds his heart is beating (with the blue commantary that he trust me) but I don´t play furhter because I don´t know if the evil path locked me out of the secret ending if I give his heart back even i he tust me?
Nope you should be good.
Sadly the bug with Deskari and baphomet is still there. I was not able to ascend the whole party because of this, but hey, ascension is ascension i guess.
Really?! Damn that is whack, I thought they fixed it. Thanks for the warning.
Thanks for this, im also doing a trickster run rn as a serpent blooded eldtrich scion and I think thisll be the run where i attempt the secret ending
Yeah this game has some strange achievements. I got one by accident last night that I didn't even know was a thing. I think it's called "A Very Important Deed" ? Or something like that. Apparently, in a single playthrough, you need to rescue the ale cart during the Defender's Heart attack, AND rescue all of the courtesans in Daeran's mansion when the demon's attack. Apparently only like 3% of players on Steam have pulled that off? I frankly didn't even know it was something to do xD
😂😂😂 Yeah it's weird the things that will pop an achievement for you. One of these days I will turn the game down to easy and pick that one up. Most of the time a Courtesan gets slaughtered before I even get to make a move.
@@SlanderedGaming Yeah I know! I mean you have zero control over the courtesans in that scene, so it's basically all up to the RNG gods if they survive or not. I do think they are more coded to flee the threats, compared to the Drunk Nobles? But no clue.
First time I played that fight in turn based combat, I secretly was hoping they were all some kind of monastic/brothel sect of monks, and the fact that they were all nekked wouldn't matter, and they'd just start whoopin' butt. Way of the Pleasured Fisting martial style! xD Sadly no, they were just nekked, and running around in a panic.
@@happyninja42 Way of the Slippery Fist 🤜 💦 heh
But yeah damn it's so difficult to have them not accidentally kill themselves by triggering attacks of opportunity with their frenzied running around in a panic
@@mduckernz I think the trick, is to prioritize the enemies in order of initiative. Regardless of distance and other factors. If you can simply kill them before they get to move, you will keep pushing the number of attacks so far back down the roster, that very few of them will have a chance to go, and thus less likely to hit a courtesan? *shrugs* That's usually my standard operating procedure on who to focus fire in combat, assuming there isn't some priority enemy with a nasty ability that I want to remove ASAP. That might help you accomplish it.
If you gave the lexicon to galfrey, in act 3 aqnd are on an evil mythic path, if you kill her in Iz you can get it back
Awesome I will note that at the top. I haven't killed Galfrey yet so I couldn't confirm the Lexicon would be on her body.
I was listening to this episode literally after one 2 finger drink of rum straight and I was not able to follow along the pathway. Holy Shit
😂😂
This way is tricky. Also thx for guide.
My pleasure!
Midnight Bolt would make a great name for an 80's rock band.
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@@SlanderedGaming You're seriously one of my favorite youtube people. You should think about live streaming. I think you would do well once people see your personality. Besides anyone who likes my lame jokes has already won.
About to try this on my playthrough shortly. Hopefully it checks out. I achieved just about everything here that was mentioned without knowing it. I didn't even know there was an ascension path/secret ending until chapter 5. About to enter the Threshold. I had to use the Toy Box in a couple instances to make sure I was set for this.
Several people have confirmed they were able to use this guide to achieve Ascension. If you have any questions let me know otherwise Good Luck!!
@@SlanderedGaming Ugh. This failed which otherwise I felt was a perfect playthrough for a lawfully good angel character. I ascended, but only me. I had crystals, happened to complete so much of what was covered in this video without even knowing about ascension chapter 5. When I defeated Areelu, and selected the "I've uncovered your plan" dialogue option, and then selected the "I want to know, I want to follow" option, I only had a couple dialogue options and according to Neoseeker, there should be 5-7 listed. So I didn't get to fight Deskari and Baphomet again and only I ascended. It would be nice to know what I missed which resulted in those dialogue options missing.
For the Mustasafen part. If u saved ramien back in act 1. He will sacrifce his life to save the hostages if u choose to catch musta
Yup I didn't know that at the time I made this guide. Thank you!
Spoiler for True Aeon: They actively stop past Areelu from opening the Worldwound to begin with. This is why they cannot ascend as the Aeon also ceases to exist once this fight is over.
Also I have done the Angel Ascension and I'm pretty sure Killing Mustafen in his Lab is part of the Mythic rank 9 for Angel so Nurah's presence shouldn't affect the Pulara's Falls interaction. As to which I think Angel has the best chance of Ascension due to the Mythic path having the Living Wardstones characters that can lock Deskari and Baphomet into being unable to run away.
The Wardstone mechanic is super cool but it doesn't impact Ascension. Either way you have to face Deskari and Baphomet twice. Good point about Mutasafen.
it would be cool if ascending as a gold dragon turned you into a platinum dragon just for looks^^
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Regarding 29:40
1. The crib in front of the bed first
2. The (childs) drawings on the table second
3. The book on the table, that's in the place where you were teleported previously in the real-world lab,
pick them in order to obtain "Embroidered Gloves"
Thank you so much for this guide. Now to reroll a trickster as to become Loki muahahaha.
My pleasure! Good luck!
lol my head hurts
Imagine how I felt making this video. 😂
@@SlanderedGaming lol
I suggest you to try a updated guide to this going on demon mythic path because there is in Alushnyyra a quest from Yozz who wants you to kill leader of shadow demons... in his lair there is another Midnight bolt. I am pretty sure you know this, so it would be pretty cool to add that in your video. :)
I think there are actually multiple things that have changed since this guide even though this guide can still be used to ascend. At some point I might have time to comb through and make a video on the updates.
@28:53 I just played this section. First turn my archer fired a midnight bolt and there was a brief interaction. After the fight, it goes into a cinematic of sorts and I was presented with a dialogue option to pick up the crystal. Hopefully that will help people to get consistent results with that battle.
Yeah seems like Owlcat has changed things around a couple of times.
THANK YOU SO MUCH ! I DID IT !!!
Congratulations!! Really glad this guide was helpful for you!
Just as an FYI, I followed this (and the other one on steam) I thought pretty closely lol. I got the ascension ending, but the Pulura shrine at Threshold was not there for me and did not stop me from getting the ending.
Interesting okay thank you! Congratulations on achieving the ascension ending.
I will be doing whatever it takes to achieve this ending…
Good luck!
Thank you for this video, I just completed the Ascension today. I am quite disappointed with the ending and how long it took for me to wait for the certain ascension time. 😰😰
My pleasure. What did you feel was missing from the Ascension ending?
@@SlanderedGaming I completed it with angel. It just doesn't make sense for good mythic paths (angel, azata and dragon). I would take the test of starstone like Iomadae and Cailean, instead of using the crystal. This ascension makes my angel KC a power hungry god despite which really opposite for most of her actions. However, for a trickster and a lich would make sense for me.
I also expected that Iomadae or Noticular should show up during the last conversation. Ember didn't like godhood but she still took ascension meanwhile my Nenio rejectet it.
I just wish Owlcat will provide the test of starstone for the proper ascension as DLC.
Well, the eon uses the purple knife, so you only have access to 5 crystals.
Yup but you can ascend with just five crystals so I was confused as to why that fact would prevent them from ascending. Looks like it's actually a storyline issue but might get changed in the next patch.
This is gold !
Thank you! Glad you found the information useful!
Thank you very much! I was waiting for this guide. I tried to reach this ending during my previous playthrough (dragon) without any guides but I messed up a few steps. Will try to ascend my trickster when I get to it.
On a side note the locusts at your video indicate that you re currently playing a swarm yet you said swarm cannot ascend. I'm a bit confused.
It's a bug in the game where sometimes if you load a save where you are swarm the locusts will stay on the screen even if you switch to another save. All the clips are from my Angel or Trickster playthrough regardless of any swarms you see.
i didn't even know this was an option. I will try this in my lich playthrough! I just finished my angel playthrough and am now going back to kingmaker to play some of the mod classes while I wait on bug fixes. this game is so buggy right now its annoying at times. especially since it's such a great game. what bugs me is when i went into thresh hold it failed a quest for me to help nocticula win some war in the abyss. so i reloaded and old save and went back and i didn't even have the quest or any way back to the abyss from act 5 so I am un sure what that was. I also couldnt get to the hell knight camp for regils quest because of an invisible enemy fortress which for some odd reason it was at the dragon camp and i couldn't move my army there. so i have no idea why it was blocking my main group from moving to the hell knight camp when my army could go back and forth with no issue.
Yeah there are definitely quite a few bugs happening still with the game. At least Owlcat is working diligently to get them taken care of. I know some games that will be buggy until the day I die. LOL
If possible I would like to know the story how this ending was discovered, step by step, was it data mined, was it a bunch of people sharing clues or is it obvious if you just carefully read every book/item description?
I mean some things were planely written, like the power date, and some research never popped up or did pop up but revealed no additional info, maybe bugs, so how was this pieced together considering the buggy mess and numerous required skill checks, some impossible if not specifically prepared for them.
If you look at the comments section of the Steam Guide peole go back and forth alot about how they find certain things. Some of it was definitely data mined while others you can kind of pick up from dialogue and research decree descriptions.
@@SlanderedGaming Well that is one way to go about it, or someone could maybe make a youtube video about it wink wink , just say`ing ;) .
@@nikd.7994 LOL I'll see what I can do!
Thx a lot!
My pleasure!
Thanks for this. I think I sold 1 midnight bolt by mistake in Act 1 but I should be okay. It was in Drezden so I'll buy it back lol. And I'm demon so I can technically get 7 crystals. AND I still do have the purple knife and did the correct decisions in act 3 already, which was lucky lol
Nice! You are already well on your way.
@@SlanderedGaming Yeah just want to see the ending once then I'll just get whatever I get in other playthroughs. Also thanks for the life bubble tip
42:45 I got her gloves and wore them afterward and into Threshold but she gave me no dialogue prompts concerning the gloves.
Interesting so maybe it's just a nice to have item then.
@@SlanderedGaming Yeah I must have missed something. I mean, why else put them in the game with a specific sequence to unlock them. I thought maybe she might talk about them at the end of the game as one of the soft checks for Ascension but no. Maybe something broke with a patch (shakes fist at 1.2). I know I've heard others say that she'll comment on the fact that you're wearing her gloves so maybe I missed something or the devs made a change. RPGs are so full of threads. I always laugh when people complain about bugs in them.
One thing I want to note, and I dont know if this has been covered - the end of Nenio's quest. That boss is a damn pain to get the crystal from, not helped by her using illusions and clones
Yup that's a fact it's a tough fight.
@@SlanderedGaming Any recommendations as to WHEN to get the crystal? Like what phase of the fight? I missed it the first time and don't desire to run my Legend Cavalier through it again - more to improve my plans with my Trickster Sword Saint.