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The Jam, The Byrds, Beach Boys,The Hollies, Gerry and the Pacemakers Bangles, REM, Steppenwolf, The Who, Radiohead, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Jefferson Airplane, etc etc all played Rickenbacker guitars.
The Beatles, John and George played them quite a bit.
The Church
beatles too nitwit
@@mahalomark nahh they don't count
Johnny Marr/The Smiths
Lemmy Kilmister from Motörhead played a Rickenbacker bass and wonderfully named it the Rickenbastard
Guys, this is from the heart: In a few years, I’ve gone from knowing nothing about guitars to knowing lots. Parallel to that, I’ve gone from being a ‘big fan’ to ‘mostly tolerant’ to ‘really annoyed’ at your vids.
This means my appreciation of your vids is negatively correlated to my guitar knowledge.
Why does it have to be like that? I don’t think you misinform on purpose - I think you are complacent and skip doing your homework. I understand that your channel is aimed at beginner-intermediate level guitarists and not guitar experts, but that doesn’t justify misinformation. On the contrary, I think it is extra important giving correct facts to beginners. You come on the air pretending to know things you don’t actually know. “These are humbuckers”, “This is a third tone knob”. No they aren’t! No it isn’t!
How long will it take for you to research? 5 minutes? If that’s too long, you have a staff at your disposal. You have the tools, the resources, the brains... apply them. There is no reason at all for you to repeatedly get the facts wrong like you do.
I am at my wits end with Andertons. I tell you what I’m gonna do: I’ll give you three more strikes, then I’m out. You get to state three more falsehoods in any video posted tomorrow or onwards. On the fourth, I’m done with Andertons. No more amp buys, no more guitars buys, no more cable, pedal, mic, strap, or even guitar picks buys. One high-value customer lifetime value down the toilet. Your choice. Good luck.
they dont give a fuck. totally shit reviews
You think these guys are bad wait until you see the synth reviewer from Andertons Jack Duxbury.. he plays with the worst technique and has an even worse knowledge about sound science and synthesis. On top of that he acts like a sugar high toddler and is unbearably cringey a the best of times.
Plays a Rickenbacker through a Fender Deluxe Reverb and doesn’t play The Smiths...........
Should be a law against that.
Should’ve played it through a Vox or Marshall Amplifier
In the UK too
@@sergiozc even worse, Manchester!
Tame Impala (Kevin Parker) uses a Rickenbacker 335
I was waiting for someone to mention TI
***** They all do
+Flynn Hendry Its actually a 335
Melomania uh no, he uses a jetglo 330
***** lmao sorry to say but youre wrong. its a 335. Notice how there is no "R" before his bridge and 330s arent vintage. Kevins is a 1966 :)))
I can't believe you failed to mention Johnny Marr at the beginning. He sums up everything that's great about them.
Simon Webbon i know right? i was.gobstopped
Agreed
A lot of the parts that Marr played that people think were played on the rickenbacker were played on his telecaster (which is a beautiful looking and sounding instrument). I think Marr used the rickenbacker a lot more on Meat Is Murder and pretty much every album he’s made since.
He's a lot more synonymous with jazzmasters though
@@matthewhealy7607 he’s used the Jazzmastser and Jaguar since he was in Modest Mouse. Before then he used Les Pauls, Rickenbackers and Telecasters (as well as an ES335 in Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now I believe).
I've owned over RICs over the years - now age 70 I was forced to cut down my collection of guitars from 185 to just 15 - the price of moving into a Senior housing project. I sold of all my Fenders, GIbsons, Mosrites and Gretsch's of necessity - but I couldn't let my RICs go- I let 2 of the 3 fireglo 360s go and both 4003s. This Utube is a prime display of 2 guys who never used a RIC - they know little about them - even the well-known term "Toaster pickups". The 330 is a much lighter feel guitar and for me with my hands going (Trigger finger and some arthiritis) the 330 is now the only guitar I can play easily (forefinger is stiff and won't bend into an open E or C. I just put my 360/12/C63 up for sale today along with one of my 325 Miamis. I hated to let them go and sold one 325Miami to a Brqanson Beatles tribute band when he broke the neck off his and was in a crunch. RICs sund mst traditinally with flat wund stings - almost like thru a small bulhrn speaker. Great fr lead but supreme fo rhythm. Enough - back to my history. writing. Sadly they all have 24 frets - the older ones I prefer are 21 fret and more authentic.
Marty, I guess they don't teach grammar in senior residences huh? Lmao
@@AL_1991 Agustin, he said that he has arthritis you spastic.
@@AL_1991 says that mex from out of his shit hole , lol
@@AL_1991 An idiot not having respect on the internet? I’m stunned.
Amazing info thanks are you still there?
The extra knob is functionally a master volume for the neck pickup. The are stereo guitars and it allows you to balance the output of the 2 pickups because Ricks tend to have higher output on the neck pickup. And at 7:50 Rob finally made the Rick sound like every guitar he's ever demoed.
The Beatles, the Byrds, The Who, The Jam, Robyn Hitchcock, Johnny Marr, The Pretenders, Credence Clearwater Revival, the Jefferson Airplane, the Bangles, the Church, the Hoodoo Gurus, Paul Weller, Ocean Colour Scene, Graham Coxon
Tame impala ;)
+Dean Firstly, the query wasn't in regards to whomsoever "exclusively" played Rickenbackers or who only played unmoded Rickenbackers, it was in regards to whom used them. Secondly: I can't see the reasons why Lennon or Mcartney used them as being relevant. Lastly: there's plenty of footage of John Fogerty using a Rickenbaker live on CZcams; check it out.
The Beach Boys
dark funeral and behemoth
When has Graham Coxon ever used a Rickenbacker?
I get a bit tired of hearing wailing. It does zilch for me. I prefer to hear some Smiths or melodic guitar playing so nice to hear a Ricky for a change
+Andy D I second your emotion. There are a lot of technically proficient guitarists out there, but shredding gets boring when everyone's doing it all the time. Give me McGuinn, Marr, etc any day!
+Damon Levine Totally agree Damon. Johnny Marr. Roger McGuinn etc never play any sort of lead, it's just intricately weaved patterns and sounds just fine to me. I like these two guys though.
yes, especially as Marr played the ric in the majority of the smiths LPs
Andy D Well, you’ve come to the wrong channel. Pretty niche.
They were a fairly common sight during the Britpop days.
I agree with anyone who thinks these two have no clue🙄 Ricky's RULE!
Like Homer Simpson in a Nuke plant.
Love all the clean tones in this video. Also the stereo sound from Rob's guitar is fantastic!
I always think of Johnny Marr whenever I see Rickenbackers, and Pete Townshend. I know Laura Jane Grace from Against Me! plays a lot of Ricky's.
Troy Tate Sessions
czcams.com/video/HSrrzkcaLQ8/video.html
Guy Picciotto of Fugazi as well
Will Waller i think of the beatles and the byrds when i see ricks
*Tom Gabel
Will Waller I’ve never seen Townsend with a Rickenbacker. I’ve seen The Byrd’s,Tom Petty, Beatles. McGuinn made them famous with his 12 string
Good to see that Rob & I are being put to shame regarding how many players actually use these guitars! Ha ha - in the words of Manuel from Fawlty Towers "I know nothing!!"
You seem to know more then most people;)
I love Fawlty Towers!
There's a video on CZcams with Steve Howe rocking a Rickenbacker 12 string.
You forgot about one of the major players,which is Roger McGuinn from the Byrds.Further more,if it wasn't for George Harrison,I doubt even that many people would be using them.IMO!
Faulty Towers was a great show,along with AB Fab.Now we're stuck with Downton Abbey! We don't get to see Benny Hill anymore either.
I just purchased a new used 2019 360 and am very pleased
The neck and feel really exceeded my expectations and after hearing the sound
just had to have it. It does sound different in a pleasant way.
Knowing that you both have different styles of play it really demonstrated that it can be versatile
Great review !
BTW they are made in Santa Ana, California
You're forgetting the best Rick users; The Byrds!
12 string not 6 six string
@@matsgoalkeeping2448 one of the Ric users they mentioned was Petty - his signature Rickenbacker is a 12 string. So I'd say The Byrds still count.
Also, a side note, David Crosby used a 6 string Ric 360 in The Byrds for a while.
bbbbrian is never knew that thanks for the information!
@DMo86 Marr can't hold a candle to McGuinn. Sorry.
Peter Buck of R.E.M. and Johnny Marr of The Smiths both extensively used Rickenbackers.
Kenny Vaughan plays one to amazing effect. Check him out with Marty Stuart and on Lucinda Williams’ Car Wheels album.
I love Peter
And Johnny Marr's Fender Jaguar is one I like.
Mysterious Ways and Even better than the real thing are two of the best examples of a Ricky played in an alternative rock context.
Generally speaking, the Rickenbacker is and will always be an iconic guitar associated with the '60's music period and primarily used as a rhythm guitar and not as lead guitar. Back in the day, any instrument the Beatles played created a demand by other guitarist, after all, having a Rickenbacker in your band spelled out success and prestige, even the Beach Boys had one in their group. The Rickenbacker has a special twang like no other, you can really notice it in early Beatle songs and the Byrds music. There are just too many choices these days to see a Rickenbacker on stage. I loved the 330 you showed, the wood grain was just exquisite! Thank you.
They now use a solvent free coating system, that is cured by UV light. It takes less than 3 minutes to go from wet spray to hard cured and ready to sand and buff. Overspray is collected, and re-used, as without the UV cure, it remains liquid essentially forever.
As a professional coatings scientist and an amateur guitarist, I appreciate this comment on so many levels.
Nice review, and very entertaining. I'm one of those Rickenbacker "aficiandos" you mentioned. Only two little errors. The pickups are single coils. The scale is 24.75". And, it shouldn't take a two year wait to get one of the models you reviewed. They are the most common and are fairly easy to find - at least here in the USA. Also, Rickenbacker now has a new 12 string model with a wider neck. Many people don't like that narrow neck, especially with a 12 string model. The new 1993+ is, imho, the best 12 string electric Rickenbacker has ever produced.
How can you own a guitar store and dislike every guitar with unique features that aren't a Strat or Les Paul?
Does the word "Wanker Snob" come to mind?
@@davidcudlip6587 the fat guy on the left reminds me of every metal head kid from high school who understood nothing of music outside of their own niche.
@@pneulancer Yeah, most metal heads I've known, that is literally THE ONLY genre they listen to.
Why are you Rick fans so damn sensitive? He didn’t say anything negative.
@@ahiddenodditycause it's the Ric cult lol
Susanna hoffs uses them even has her own signature model
The pickups are still called hi gain and they are single coil not humbuckers
Yup-- they screwed the pooch on that. Reviewer called them humbuckers.
They are single coils.
They're equivalent to P90s.
Pretty sure the smaller knob is a blend between the two pick ups.
@@jeffc4862 Yes it is - but the guys felt the review would be better if they started out not reading the specs or getting briefing on how they work.
@@jeffc4862 360 owner here. The little knob is essentially a second volume knob that lowers the volume of just the neck pickup over a narrow range...as you turn it up. (Yes, backwards!) It's only in play when using the neck of middle positions. It's useless, IMO. I just leave it all the way counter-clockwise and use the normal volume controls.
You guys missed off the most iconic Rickenbacker user of them all. Lemmy from Motorhead. He used a 4003 originally and later had a signature model.
He is a bass player though.
Doesn't matter. The question was to name iconic Rickenbacker players. That it had to be a guitarist rather than a bassist was not specified. Also Lemmy started out as a guitarist. He picked up the bass to get the gig with Hawkwind and the rest is history.
+James Lewis And they make the Lemmy Rickie available in guitar form as well. Even comes with a bottle of Jack Daniels and a pack of cigarettes. That's not a joke, by the way.
He asked who uses them now. Lemmy is dead he can't possibly use them now.
Aidan Lefeld Never underestimate lemmy
Tame Impala :) Both Kevin Parker and Dom use Ricks!
yeah!
"There's a storm brewing in the form of Tame Impala! Kevin Parker controls the weather systems around here"- Alex Turner
... Jeremy's storm is a' brewing.
Our lord and savior
I play a Ricky 330, got a £1000 loan as soon as I was old enough (must of been 18), and drove the 150 miles to Luton to buy it (can't remember the shop). 28 years later I still love it, but it's taken a few knocks in its time.
You guys are great. WE are planning a trup to London in 2019. Will stop by your store. I love my Rickenbackers. Take care.
Great vid, guys, but I can hear Rickenbacker players crying out in anger and pain at a few things:
1) You said that Hi-Gains are humbuckers; they most certainly are not. They are single-coils, which account for part of the jangly sound.
2) The fifth knob is a mixer control, not a tone control, and only has an effect in the middle and top positions, because it is, in effect, a second volume knob for the bass pickup (but the normal volume knob will not do the same job).
3) Why play on those amps when we can see what appears to be a hand wired Vox in the background?! Arrgghh!
Aside from those niggles, great vid!
why do you say "The fifth knob is a mixer control, not a tone control, and only has an effect in the middle and top positions, because it is, in effect, a second volume knob for the bass pickup (but the normal volume knob will not do the same job)."
i mean, the only difference is that the fifth knob is set up as a potentiometer so won't take the volume to zero, but it's still just a volume control. It's more precise than the normal neck volume, but that's it. You can do the same with the neck volume as with the fifth knob.
Your absolutely right they are not humbuckers! They are single coil pickups but they're what Rickenbacker calls
" Hi-gain"
I was under the impression that the fifth knob was a blend knob in between the front and back pickups. Thus allowing you to tailor in the middle position
@@benkeating3053 It's marketed as a "blend/mixer" but it's a variable resistor between the neck pickup and the neck pickup's volume knob...so one leg of the pot is not soldered to anything. When you turn it up, you are turning up the value of the resistor before the neck pickup's signal gets to the volume knob, turning it down reduces it to 0 ohms of resistance like it's not there. Basically, if you feel like the neck pickup is too powerful in the middle position, turn the 5th knob up and it will equalize the two to a better balance. I personally wired a small cap on the same two lugs that are attached and it now acts only as a bass cut for the neck pickup. It still has a slight volume drop, but it really just cuts the muddiness out.
I hope Rickenbacker continues to hold fast to their ways, because they are absolutely on the right track.
Worth the money, worth the wait.
Can be used for any music style.
That "5th knob" is only a secondary volume control for the neck pickup, NOT a tone control. Although when in the middle position, the tone may appear to change when using it, its only because its mixing in more or less of the neck pickup with the bridge PU. Its a fine tuning or supplemental volume control for blending in the amount of neck PU to bridge PU to suit you taste. With neck pot volume on full, and the 5th knob turned all the way, then the neck PU is on full (no resistance thru either pots). This is convenient because the neck PU 'sounds' much louder than the bridge PU because of its position only, so this is a way to normalize it's volume with the bridge PU. The PU height adjustment screws are not as effective for raising or lowering the PU's for volume normalization between the two PU's, as on say a Gibson, so this knob comes in handy. After "normalization" of the neck PU with the bridge PU, you can then use the regular neck volume pot as you would on any other guitar...... There will be a test next week.;)
NEVER too late to post a compliment: It is so nice to see that you respect those guitars (and your informed listeners) enough to actually play the guitars and not demo distortion boxes. Thank you!
PETE fucking TOWNSHEND!
He destroyed a good amount of Rickenbackers in the early 60s, so many in fact that people would come see their shows just to see The Who smash up all of their gear. Surprised they actually gave him a signature model
He mentioned Pete
Jimmy J. Rustle why don't you have a seat over there?
Honestly, I do not like people who destroy guitars, none of them. But if I see what a Rickenbacker costs today, it will 've never been cheap and therefore it is a shame I think to even scratch it. The more because it is such a fine crafted instrument. (had to get that out)
They cost 250 pounds in England then, they were always expensive. Nowadays they're expensive but not anymore than any nice Fenders and barely touches anything Gibson makes.
I bought a brand new 330 this Christmas for $1400
@wildcatter63 True -- and, of course, part of the reason for his subsequent switch to (predominantly) Fenders was the fact that they were cheaper and sturdier than Rics.
Even more than the Beatles, the Byrds, specifically Roger McGuinn, were known for their Ric "Jangle" sound. Hence the term "Jangle Rock." On their early albums, in the days when studio players were used for most of the instrumental parts and artists were just allowed to sing, McGuinn still played on every session. His heavily-compressed Ric 12-string playing was that crucial to the Byrds' sound.
YES -- The Byrds ------- for 12 strings Ricks !
I know this video very old and you probably won’t see this, but my favorite band Tally Hall uses a Rickenbacker. Their rhythm guitarist uses it in all their tours during and after 2008. Him and John Lennon are the reasons I want one of these
'That guy from The Jam' :O - Bruce Foxton is a legend!
Paul Weller
Both played Rics!
Hey Guy's, i realize this reply is over two years after the video was posted and i truly love all your video's, however i just wanted to get it on record as saying that i really don't think the proper admiration and respect was shown for these Rickenbackers in the video, it almost felt like you did it because you had to, in order to please Ric fans.
Even if you can't think of many artists who play them, they can be played with anyone that uses an ES 335 or any other hollow or semi hollow body for that matter, they just sound great clean or distorted.
Now i've seen you both drool over Les Pauls and PRS's, even certain Strat's over the years, but the Rickenbacker's not only deserve the same respect as those, but perhaps a little more.
They innovated the dual trussrod necks, and their build quality has never faltered, these guitars can play any type of music and they have never messed with their classic instruments by changing pickups, tuners, wood materials used, binding, everything has been true to it's original design.
You can pick up a Rickenbacker from 1960 and the same model Rickenbacker from 2015 and the materials and build quality is every bit as solid and great sounding as it was, try doing that with a Les Paul these days.....Well i've said my piece, but i still think a better variety Rickenbacker video should be made showcasing their solid bodies, basses and all the different semi hollows they offer because lord knows you've done that kind of variety with Gibson and Fender through the years.
No one actually cares... lmao
Ric fans and owners like myself care, and anyone who cares about the traditional build quality remaining true to it's original production is very important.
Otherwise you might as well go buy a guitar made from plywood and duct tape.
Rickenbackers are guitar royalty and deserve to be treated as such.
+Blues Guitarist 69 ok then!?!?
me 2
Well if thats true and you do know your stuff, then all the more reason why you should care about traditional build quality, and companies like Gibson who have sold out and cut corners with materials and quality over the years.
Does anyone else instantly think of Johnny Marr when they see a Rickenbacker? I know he doesn't play them any more. But Whenever I think of Rickenbacker I always think of The Smiths over the Beatles.
me too
Yes! Although I also heavily associate him with Fender Jags.
Also thought the guy from REM used Rickenbackers alot...
Nowadays he's fender jags, cos he's been payed shiteloads by fender. But that original bright smiths tone is all multi-layered 12 string Rick
***** Not all of it. Large parts of the early albums were played with a Telecaster.
hondansx1000 maybe you should see a doctor lol
Love love the Rickie 360 Jetglo a great playing guitar work of art with rich twang of a Strat and crunch of Les Paul.
Greetings! Farkleberry Bucksnort of Array of Thistles here. I play a Rickenbacker 360 occasionally, and consider it one of the finest instruments I own. That said, it definitely is a niche guitar. It's great for jazz, and for that jingly-jangly 60's sound. Rob and Lee - your videos are dynamite, quite informative and entertaining! Keep pickin' and a grinin'!
Lee I was in Andertons yesterday and I just want to say the customer service was fantastic please keep this up thank you!! :)
Cheers Sam - thats great to know.
***** I commented on another video and I wanted to ask again. I am coming to visit the UK in september and I wanted to get a Victory V30. I was wondering if it can run in american power (120 v 60 hz)
Ron Mishra it sure is
Guy Picciotto from fugazi
Fuck yeah.
The 5th knob controls a blend of the two pickups. Ricks sound great in the middle position and using the 5th knob to control tone.
This is a prime example of not doing your research.
Exactly. Plus they’re. British which is amazing how retarded they both are not knowing history
the small 5th button is more like a pickup blend knob. It works best in the both pickups mode, where it controls the amount of the bridge pickup in the mix. It's coveredin more detail in the owners manual and on the Rickenbacker website.
I find the 360 and 370/12 I have limited in use, but where they are useful, they are great. A clean sound, maybe with chorus... great sound. That ultra bright bridge sound, especially on the 12 is unique. I'm not wild about the narrow neck. And the tail piece is a piece of cRap. With a more solid tail, I think the guitar would play and sound much better.
I've said this before, but I love your videos. You guys just love guitars and it really shows. If I'm ever in England, it sure would rock to be able to down a few pints and chat guitars with you guys, because I'm sure you do nothing more with your free time than spend meeting each and every fan. ;-)
A couple other artists that have used Ricks:
REM and The Smiths.
Guy Picciotto (Fugazi).
Yes. Awesomely so.
Thank you for the Info..
You guys are great
Nice review, thanks! Against Me (Laura Jane Grace) uses Ricks
Peter Buck from REM.
My fav
My first thought.
Legend!👍
Yep he comes first to mind
Peter Buck of REM, Tom Petty, Roger McGuinn, plus sometimes The Edge, John Fogerty, Glen Frey, Steve Howe, Jphn Kay, Michael Rutherford, Billie Joe Armstrong, not to mention The Hollies, Dave Clark 5 and The Bangles.
The Edge from U2 has used a 1960s 360 12-string (sparingly) for 30 years. From what I've read/seen in interviews, their songs "Angel Of Harlem", "Even Better Than The Real Thing", "Mysterious Ways", "Gone", "Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own" and "Stand Up Comedy" were recorded and/or played live with Rickenbacker 360 12-strings of the 1960's vintage.
My grandfather owned a vintage rickenbacker like the one rob was playing but he sold it ages ago
2:59 the greatest picture i've ever seen
wait nevermind 6:00 haha
6:39 i'm dying
rush2795 Upside-Down. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA. best pic I've seen.
Radiohead. I strongly believe I saw Ed playing one.
Thom plays one too.
Don't think Jonny uses any though.
+Pasty White Boy correct, he use to play a tele and now he plays a les paul
Daniel Recor yeah he plays it during Creep
TukyChannel also for no surprises
My 1979 Carvin DC150 has a similar feature - Two outputs on the guitar that allow each pick-up to be run through separate amps. Does allow for some unique sounds.
I've had a 3 pickup Rick 350 for almost 30 years that I got because I wanted something different... The pickups have a sort of dark jangly sound that I find to be very unique.
Rob's tone on this Rick is the best complement to his style I've heard, definitely sounds better and more unique than most typical 'shredder' guitars out there.
You guys forgot to mention that Rickenbacker made the first electric guitar in the world as far as i know. The frying pan from app 1930.
+Lars Nilsson Nope, les paul
+Sammy pc lmao I can't tell if you're taking the piss
iJohnnyZac
no i mean les paul made the first guitar
jkrofl
+Lars Nilsson The first electrically amplified guitar was designed in 1931 by George Beauchamp, General Manager at National Guitar Corporation. Known as the "Frying Pan" it went into commercial production in 1932.
I think they are beautiful sounding.
Agreed!
I quite enjoyed what you started playing at 1:33, Rob. That was really pretty
For those that do not know: That 5th knob is a blend knob for the neck pickup+bridge pickup. Because the two pickups output is similar, if you use both pickups together the neck pickup will overpower the bridge pickup. To maintain the blend without messing the volume, you can mess with that 5th knob.
As for the big waiting list at Rickenbacker, it has NOTHING to do with lacquering guitars with nitro. I don't know where they got that idea. Rickenbacker uses very high tech low-VOC finishing systems, which are most likely some form of acrylic lacquer (you can see their super super cool finishing booths in the factory tour Premier Guitar did a couple years back). They can turn out instruments very quickly compared to days of yore. The reason the waiting list is so long, is because they want to remain a small company and it seems as though if people are willing to wait 2+ years for a guitar, you must be doing something right. Very conservative business model (lets not forget Fender almost stopped existing in the 80's).
I am a Rickenbacker nut. No doubt about that.
Other than the Beatles and Tom Petty, the Byrds used them, the Smiths, the Church(AMAZING tones on their Starfish album), REM of course, the Edge uses one on Mysterious Ways, the Romantics used them, lead singer of the Bangles used one. Great for arpeggio style playing, & they sound GREAT with a Vox AC 15 or 30. Great vid!
Always good seeing you around, Andy.
Hey Rob! Back at ye. My knowledge of all things Rickenbacker and paint stuck through here. Two for the price of one
It's a two pack finish (as car refinishers call it)
Its not two pack (also called 2k). They wouldn't use two pack because it doesn't make sense from a production line stand point. They spray all the same colors and then they spray the clearcoat. If they were using a two part finish they would periodically need to clean out the gun because it would cure too quickly.
Additionally two-part urethanes cure when the urea comes into contact with the isocyanates (among other things). They don't cure by UV. UV curing works by activating (initiating) free-radicals which cause rapid polymerization.
And as a side point, most car refinishing facilities don't use UV cured coatings because it's expensive to cure large panels (at least in the US, can't speak for Europe).
I usually think of Johnny Marr first
Tony Vilaysack me too
The riff to what difference does it make🤙
Yep
Yep
The video for This Charming Man
A lot of nice sparkle to the tone.
I’ve just watched the most recent video drooling over PRS, come back to this, which I think is their only vid on Rickys, and still cant believe how dismissive it is. I guess I would never go to Andertons to look at or buy a Rickenbacker.
I also thought of how many really great guitarists played Rickys and compared it to a similar list of PRS users. NO contest.
Tame Impala, Kevin Parker as well as the other guitarist(can't remember his name) often use Rickenbacher. And the bass player but I'm not sure.
That would be Dominic Simper.
The bass player plays a Höfner. They are pretty much kitted out like the Beatles in their early days
The current bass players plays a vintage jazz bass, and Kevin Parker uses a rickenbacker 335
From what I've found on Google images, he uses a Hofner violin bass, and occasionally a Fender jazz bass.
inyourworld-deadstar Nick Allbrock former Tame Impala Bass player, and current Pond frontman, does have a rick bass guitar.
You missed Johnny Marr! First Smiths album he used a 330
"The Captain"...always looks wistfully at Rob when Rob Plays...thinking...Ohh if only I could play like him.
One of the best sounding guitars I have heard on your show. Also, Rick 12 strings are unique because they are strung octave string on the bottom. That's where the jangle comes from.
You forgot to mention RIDE and Peter Buck of R.E.M. but a more contemporary Rickenbacker user is Carrie Brownstien of Sleater Kinney
I believe Laura Jane Grace of Against Me! has a 330. But it's a custom yellow paint which is gorgeous.
Peter Buck on his black jet glow 360 awesome
This just popped up in my recommendations. I owned a 1966 330 and then a 1967 365 NS. The 330 had a slightly wider fingerboard and was a bit easier to play than the 365. In the sixties and seventies, I used "Rick-o-sound" with the bass pickup through various effect boxes and pedals and the treble pickup clean with a compressor, both channels run into a Marshall 100w half stack. I had a full stack but it was overkill for the places we played. Both guitars handled The Beatles (Michelle, Something, etc.), Zeppelin (Whole Lotta Love, Good Times Bad Times etc.), Allman Brothers (Whipping Post, Black Hearted Woman, etc.) and Johnny Winter And (Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo) with ease. It was particularly convenient to simply switch over to the bass pickup for leads. Our rep contained sixty four songs and the Rick handled them all.
I regret selling the 330 to the rhythm guitar player for peanuts. He sold it after a couple of weeks and got a Gibson SG that sounded great but refused to stay in tune.
They are not perfect though, at least the late sixties versions weren't. The 365 fingerboard is a bit too narrow, the necks of both guitars were fragile (fixed on later guitars I think), the high E string is too close to the edge of the fingerboard on the 365 and the "Toaster" PUPS were a little weak.
A few years ago when I had steady work, I nearly bought a Rick solid body. It was very expensive. Before placing my order I decided to sleep on my decision. The next day my project was canceled and I was made "redundant". No new Rickky for me.
I had a problem with the 330's neck and happened to be going to the LA area helping some friends to move to CA. and dropped the guitar off at the factory to be repaired. They didn't charge me for the repair or cost of shipping it back to New York. While at the factory, I tried to score a Bass that got a ding during a photo shoot but they refused to sell it. The stripped the hardware off it and discarded the rest of it :(
I've played a fair number of guitars through the years and although I've come to prefer guitars with jumbo frets and Floyd Rose Tremolos, The Rick remains a favorite.
- Dave
I have a 360, made around 15 years ago. Solid as a rock. I don't mind the narrow neck at all. It's fairly deep, so very comfortable in the hand. I think I would prefer the toaster pickups, though. The high-gain pickups aren't that great, though they do sound good with overdrive at loud volumes.
@@VIDS2013 I think they changed the attachment of the neck to the body or maybe the truss rods. The neck on mine is pretty flexible but the problem is manageable.
The vintage toasters sound good but don't produce a big signal, a compressor cured that issue as did playing through a 100 watt Marshall. 😁
The guitar has been played so much that the fingerboard needs to be fully restored. The varnish has worn off in some places. The frets are worn beyond leveling. Otherwise the guitar is in nearly perfect condition. I've been tempted to sell it "as is" but could never bring myself to do it.
Tone wise it's extremely versatile. Also there is a high pass capacitor that one can disable to accentuate the mid and low frequencies, making the sound less jingle-jangley. When I played out I was able to emulate Jimmy Page's tone fairly closely.
Someday I hope to get the fingerboard restored to a more playable condition and have it return to being my go-to guitar again.
-dave
@@dgwachtel Definitely seems like something changed. My 360 is built like a tank. No neck instability at all.
Rickenbacker could probably refinish your neck--though it would most likely be expensive. They use a special inversion varnish, so it may be difficult for a typical luthier to replicate.
@@VIDS2013 My 330 neck was more stable than is the 365 but it's good to hear that they have cured these problems.
I don't believe that they do factory repairs anymore unlike back in the '70s when they repaired my 330. Some years ago I located two ex-Rickenbacker luthiers who did repairs up to original factory standards. They were booked up a year ahead and were pretty expensive. For all I know they are retired by now.
If anyone has a recommendation please let me know. I'd love to get the fingerboard back into original or near original condition. Thanks.
-dave
@@dgwachtel I googled "rickenbacker guitar repairs", and several specialist luthiers came up.
The Edge - U2!! Used on the classics "Mysterious Ways", "Even Better Than the Real Thing," "Angel of Harlem" and many others.
He gets the most unique sound out of that guitar
Here are some Rickenbacker guitarists (it's a hundred times easier thinking of bassists):
Glen Buxton (Alice Cooper)
Per Gessle (Roxette)
Noel Gallagher (Oasis)
Steve Howe (Asia)
Shirley Manson (Garbage)
Johnny Marr (The Smiths)
Patti Smith
Peter Svensson (Cardigans)
Thom Yorke (Radio Head)
Naoko Yamona (Shonen Knife)
Gram Parsons
The Jam (bassiste et guitariste)
Tame Impala (Guitariste et bassiste quelques fois)
Miles Kane (Bassiste quelques fois)
The Strokes (Bassiste)
The Cure (bassiste sur une période)
Radiohead (guitariste)
Arctic Monkeys (bassiste)
...
Barry Lindon
ChipsHandonJr
Slowdive - Neil Halstead
Yes - Chris Squire
Ride - Mark Gardener
Lush - Miki Berenyi (on occasion)
REM - Peter Buck
CCR - John Fogerty
REM, c'est vrai.
j'oubliais :
Joy Division (Peter Hook).
The who (John Entwistle durant une période).
Johnny Marr (The Smiths) - used a lot
Peter Buck (REM)
Getty Lee- RUSH
Roger Mcguinn- the Byrds
Per Gessle of Roxette played multiple models between 1989 and 1992 - he even had his own singnature model, as to be seen in the 1989 Dangerous-video. A black 330 with one lone pickup and no scratch plate.
Beautiful cover of Blackbird, Mr. C.
The Smithereens' Jim Babjak played a Rick on most of their 80s stuff, and has brought it back from time to time thereafter.
+Tim Clark Loved The Smithereens!
+adam872 They're still recording - and tour regularly. Saw a great show 2 years back. Keep an eye out!
The demo should have been done using a Vox AC 30 amp. These guys should have played Beatle tunes to demo the guitar.
They did! Did you not hear rob play Blackbird?
Why? If I ever get one I doubt I'll play a single Beatles song on it, or try and be particularly vintage with it.
DaveDexterMusic Sure, you can play heavy metal or rap with this guitar. But, the guitar is best demo with jangly music. Early Beatle tunes will do that. Many other 1960s groups also used Rics.
Julio E. García
You equated what I said with heavy metal or rap? That's your spectrum - either vintage Beatles or heavy metal? No, I wouldn't play rap with a Ric, whatever you actually mean by "rap" as a genre of guitar music. I would just play what I like to play on it without trying to ape those who made it famous. Why stagnate like that? I came real close to buying a Brian May signature this weekend and it certainly wasn't for Queen songs.
DaveDexterMusic The rap comment was just a figure of speech to say that ultimately the owner of the guitar can play whatever style he or she likes.
As you said any guitar can be used to play any kind of music. However, certain guitars are best suited for certain styles. The big factor is whether the guitar has single coil or double coil pickups. The pickup output is also important.
Lastly there are some guitars that are strongly identified with some players or even a musical style. George Harrison put the Rickenbacker guitar in the map and the rest is history. A Ric for blues or heavy metal would be a bit out of place, but no big deal. Some modern players use so much distortion that the guitar native sound becomes moot.
epic tested one today, in love
Also thank u for mentioning the legends (and my heroes so I’m biased) PAUL WELLER AND THE JAM
Rob Chapman Johnny Marr- The Smiths
Jv Zish Hes not a new artist though
so are the Beatles or The Who, soo what you're saying doesn't coordinate with my comment, goodbye
did
+Jv Zish If I were to nit-pick, Johnny doesn't use Ricky now per se because he mostly uses his Jaguar
IN THE PAST
The edge from U2 uses a 360 for even better than the real thing and mysterious ways
Peter Buck of R.E.M. is never without a 330. Mike Mills, also from R.E.M., played a Rickenbacker bass in the early years of the band before largely switching to a Fender Precision Bass.
Yeah, for me the first band that comes to mind that uses a Rickenbacker is R.E.M.
The 5th knob is a blend control for the neck pickup. But it does effect the tone when not in the middle position due to load resistance .
Rickenbacker needs to do a cheaper run in my opinion, I would love to see a 600 -1000 dollar range.
Never gonna happen unless they go to the far east... and I don't think they're that kind of brand.
well, i disagree, if they could make it cheaper using the same materials, then maybe, but there is something about the Rickenbacker, its something you save up money for in ages if you want one, and when you get one, (i imagine). you will be very happy and take good care of them, and make weird noises while touching it.
eldar c.s. "If they could make it cheaper using the same materials"??? That statement doesn't make sense! You're asking them to lower their standards? You're asking them to lower their profits? Looks like you're just going to continue admiring them from afar! :)
I guess they are trying to live up to a certain quality (which is a good thing). Quality over Quantity i guess, although perhaps a cheaper run would make them more appealing to the masses and open up their market a bit?
***** Cheaper isn't always a bad thing, just look at the PRS range their SE's are great quality. I wouldn't want them to turn out like GIbson though, churning out overpriced guitars for the quality.
THE BYRDS
Have these guys been isolated from music history ????
You guys should know that that extra control blends the sound coming from the 2 pickups. Also, now I know that a good, rich, Ric sound comes from an excellent amp. Thank you so much.
I like the Rickenbacker sound, never played one though, I'll defo try one next time I'm in the guitar store...
Lemmy from Motörhead, still going with his Rick, the sig version is fantastic looking as well.
But I guess you guys were meaning current electric Rickenbacker guitar users...
I love Lemmy's Rickenbacker. Its most definitely my favorite bass
I think they were just looking for guitarists, not necessarily bassists. If were talking bass players there are soooo many that still use them. Lemmy included
Can't forget Roger McGuinn of the Byrds with his Rickenbacker 370 12string.
Marty Willson piper ex church uses rickenbacker and he is one the best guitarist in the world greetings from manly australia
I play a 2012 Ruby Red 360. Amazing sound, and the most beautiful guitar ever made!
Chappers and Captain: Gleaned from the Rickenbacker Artists' Page, here is a seriously abbreviated list of more-recently-famous artists who use Rickees (6-stringers only): Ed O'Brien of Radiohead, Thom Yorke of Radiohead, Courtney Love of Hole, the Edge of U2, Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam, David Bryson of Counting Crows, Noel Gallagher (formerly of Oasis), Sean Kelly of Sixpence None the Richer, Johnny Marr (formerly of the Smiths), Shirley Manson of Garbage, and Ed Roland of Collective Soul. In addition to that list, let's not forget artists who use Rickee 6-stringers on occasion, but who aren't exactly new to the scene: Robin Zander of Cheap Trick, John Kay of Steppenwolf, the late-legendary virtuoso guitarist Jeff Buckley, and, let's also not forget Peter Buck of R.E.M., since the Rickenbacker sound was such a big part of the R.E.M. sound, especially on the albums Murmur, Fables of the Reconstruction, and Life's Rich Pageant. :) --cheers!
I had to read through the entire 400+ responses to find ONE person who mentioned a big Rick lover: John Kay of Steppenwolf.
One more guitarist NO one has mentioned: Brian Jones, Rolling Stones founder.
Tame impala
If it wasn't for 7:46, I would say that John Fogerty would've had a Premonition and called Suzie Q.
I like that guitar!!!
Nice video, Chappers and Captain. :)
Thom Yorke on the awesome "Lucky" from OK Computer ...the one on the left. "I'm on a roll this time..."
just finished. can't believe this is uk. what about every 60's British group for a history. The Who, the animals, Gerry and the pacemakers, etc, etc
johnny marr (the smiths)
Adam kessler (the drums)
Ezra Koenig (vampire weekend)
I thought Ezra used an Epiphone? Correct me if i'm mistaken
he does usually play epiphones but she whips out a 330 once in a while
DoorMatt Holmes he does usually play epiphones but she whips out a 330 once in a while
Wesley Cuebas Uh, he uses an Epiphone except when she uses a 330? What kind of crazy gender is this person?
Paul L i gender called "typo" paul :)
I have a rick 620 ,Les Paul standard, strat, been playing guitar for 40 year's, I find the rick to be probably the best built of the 3,and it can hold it's own with the other two, It has a tone that cuts through the mix.
That RB 330 is a dream