Struggling with Push-Pull and Double Stroke Roll? Here's How to Fix It...

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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
  • A lot of students who first start with me mention they struggle with doubles, so over the last decade, I have been working on different approaches to solving this problem, and this video shows a bunch of the key steps required to get doubles improving, conditioned, and integrated in to your playing.
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Komentáře • 122

  • @lethargictroutable
    @lethargictroutable Před 3 měsíci +4

    Matt is my Mentor and I can honestly say his lessons have been an absolute game changer for me! I've been playing for 10+ years and always struggled with accuracy and speed around the kit and since working with him on a 1-1 basis my playing has come on leaps and bounds! Keep up the good work dude this lesson is awesome!!!! Love ya Broski! (It's Tony btw 😂)

  • @mrudulkamble3266
    @mrudulkamble3266 Před 4 měsíci +4

    That solo at the end was actually pretty good and so chill at the same time ! Love it

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for checking it out, hope you got some value for your time spent!

  • @finr95
    @finr95 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Thanks for breaking things down. I hope your channel continues to grow, we need more teachers like yourself.

  • @Pericles777
    @Pericles777 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I learned this and didn’t realize I was doing it. Accenting the second note of doubles just sounds so good 👍🏼

  • @VON_RHEDBEARD
    @VON_RHEDBEARD Před 4 měsíci +2

    You have a great teaching ability! Highly appreciated sir

  • @00p13p
    @00p13p Před 4 měsíci +2

    Best video on this topic ever

  • @carlosbowling1959
    @carlosbowling1959 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Very helpful you demystified everything

  • @johndiraimo1444
    @johndiraimo1444 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The purpose for learning the Free/Full stroke is to allow the student to understand the full rotation... the "plain" if you will, of the stick. The 4 basic strokes need to be understood and practiced slowly so that one can understand the physics and feel them in the hands. Similar to the double strokes where you pull the second double out.
    Joe Morello's book
    Master Studies I addresses these issues and strokes.
    It's not the whole equation but it's an important one.

  • @jcgm666
    @jcgm666 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wow! I think its the best push pull technique video i've seen

  • @caferrara
    @caferrara Před 4 měsíci +1

    So many poseurs giving drum instruction, but this guy can really do what he teaches!

    • @MericaBack2backWWChampions
      @MericaBack2backWWChampions Před 4 měsíci

      everyone knows one you've seen whiplash you are qualified to give lessons 😂 jk this guy is great! ❤

  • @SingerDuoScreens
    @SingerDuoScreens Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great explanation

  • @renangucyener3684
    @renangucyener3684 Před 4 měsíci +2

    This is amazing. Thank you!

  • @Alaaaan1000
    @Alaaaan1000 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Good stuff! Thanks Matt 🥁

  • @216stitchdanger
    @216stitchdanger Před 3 měsíci

    You have phenomenal skill and teaching ability! This lesson connected with me. I look forward to seeing what else you demonstrate, definitely subscribed. Thank you

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for subscribing and for the kind words. Glad you found ilthe lesson helpful!

  • @swcre8s
    @swcre8s Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great video and really cool tips! Thanks!

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for checking it out and for commenting... You are helping get this video out there! Any q's hit me up!

  • @dageonyar
    @dageonyar Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great stuff ty. Got Syncopation book ready to roll (pun intended lol) Liked and sub'd., Look forward to your next videos.

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks for subscribing. More to come. How would you feel about a video breaking down bass drum doubles? 😊
      Syncopation is a great resource. I have another way of using syncopation page 38-45. I'll have to drop that sometime. 😁

  • @gonch72
    @gonch72 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great video

  • @RogerSmith-sm9en
    @RogerSmith-sm9en Před 4 měsíci +2

    Hey Matt, really enjoyed your take on push pull. Subscribed! Id love to check out your doubles cheat sheet. Cheers

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You got it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @michaelshur
    @michaelshur Před 3 měsíci +1

    Excellent teacher, thank you!

  • @JeDaCheese
    @JeDaCheese Před 3 měsíci +1

    I feel like some teachers create the 'point to the ceiling' style methods just so they can push out another video. This however was bullshit free and to the point. Thanks

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Glad it helped you out. Keep an eye out, I have a few more of these techique simplifiers coming soon.

  • @coopercooper8406
    @coopercooper8406 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just discovered Matt. Sometimes the algorithm is my ally. Great lesson. Definitely a new sub.

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Awesome, thank you! Glad youtube brought this to you. Let me know how you get on at matt@infinitydrumming.com of you want.

  • @jeremyboesmans
    @jeremyboesmans Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is the the exact video I was looking for,I really struggle getting speed with the push pull, I'm way too robotic, thanks Matt!!!

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Glad it helped! Hit me up at matt@infinitydrumming.com for a feedback video on your doubles.

  • @millie179
    @millie179 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Superb explanation... 👍👍👍

  • @indiansabertheband
    @indiansabertheband Před měsícem

    best video for push pull thanks matt

  • @alibardgett1493
    @alibardgett1493 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great video Matt 👏😎🥁

  • @tomwellander8781
    @tomwellander8781 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Doubles cheat sheet, please. I loved the video, yours is the best explanation I have watched. Thank you!

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You are welcome to it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @paulkirkwood1748
    @paulkirkwood1748 Před 3 měsíci

    Tremendous lesson! Great work!

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks Paul! If you want some feedback on your application of the lesson, drop me an email at matt@infinitydrumming.com with a video of you playing doubles, and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
      Happy drumming.

    • @paulkirkwood1748
      @paulkirkwood1748 Před 3 měsíci

      I'll do that! Thanks a lot mate

  • @SonorGeek05
    @SonorGeek05 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for breaking this down. I'm guilty of improper hand technique.

  • @gasb2g61
    @gasb2g61 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great video, Matt! I have got caught up too much in spreading myself to thin on the drums. I am trying to master too many things while trying to learn songs for gigging in the blues and blues rock band I am in. Time to wind things back so I can improve what I need for the current music I am playing and once that is to my liking, then commence one other thing to master/get better at, one at a time without other parts of my playing suffering.

    • @gasb2g61
      @gasb2g61 Před 3 měsíci

      Any chance of getting the doubles chear sheet please Matt?

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      It's easy as a working drummer to get bogged down with the material we need to play for sure.
      The great thing about technique just like time is it has a big bang that benefits everything, so it's a great thing to spend time on. Let me know how it all goes for you. 😁

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@gasb2g61 You bet. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @gavinremedios7953
    @gavinremedios7953 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks, exactly what I wanted.❤😂

  • @brmperc
    @brmperc Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is really helpful. I'm teaching a student right now who is getting confused with that usual way of approach. I'm going to try this with her at the next lesson!
    Oh, and could I get that doubles cheat sheet?

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You bet. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles Cheat sheet over to you.

  • @jimbarcelona1078
    @jimbarcelona1078 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm a traditional grip drummer for years since 1962 so I'm 70

  • @wingchun-simplekungfu7584
    @wingchun-simplekungfu7584 Před 4 měsíci

    Inspiring and great lesson. Wow. I’ve still got my syncopation book my dad bought me in the early 70’s. Same book as yours. My teacher then had me doing some exercises which may have limited my learning. Like , holding coins against the stick with my fingers. To make sure my grip was always firm. I always used heavy 5C sticks. Now having better success with lighter sticks. Just need to unlearn my bad grip habit . Thanks man

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci +1

      There are alot of methods that can actually make things harder rather than easier. It's important to stay as loose as possible with the grip while maintaining accurate control of the direction the stick.
      One cool tip, on those days you find your hand are dry or cold, use Mr Zogg's stick wax to create some tackiness, so you don't have to grip the sticks too hard to maintain control. 😁

  • @pangeaproxima3681
    @pangeaproxima3681 Před 3 měsíci

    Awesome!

  • @8020drummer
    @8020drummer Před 3 měsíci

    Great video - I’d call your attention to 7:37, where your hand looks pretty much the way I strive to make mine look when I’m doing doubles. I don’t draw a distinction between doubles and drop catch at the beginning, because I think it’s about energy management. But I would give students the very advice you caution against at the beginning as a means to get their hands doing what yours are at 7:37. With all due respect, it looks like you’re dropping the wrist below the axis of the forearm - which is no criticism because I think this is a Good thing - because your hand can feel how much energy is needed to put into the stick to get an even bounce back. I agree that once you’re specifically working on doubles as independent from push pull, you need less energy, so the “drop” wrist motion can be more attenuated. The other difference in our approach is I don’t emphasize fingers at all, because one of my first teachers over emphasized fingers and that caused me to “force” the stroke by pinching it, instead of working with the energy of the stick. I’ve seen many students get caught in similar quagmires, and I wonder if simply practicing singles is an easier way to get students to incorporate the fingers without overemphasizing them. I like the approach you do leading up to 7:37, and the sound you get with your doubles, so I think it’s just about different coaching cues getting out students to a similar place.

  • @user-hb4ek5hk4p
    @user-hb4ek5hk4p Před 3 měsíci

    Doubles cheat sheet. Great lesson!

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Sure thing. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @reilley1584
    @reilley1584 Před 3 měsíci

    Doubles cheat sheet. Thanks for the lesson!

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You bet. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @lawofficesofjeffreym.jacob9466
    @lawofficesofjeffreym.jacob9466 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Doubles cheat sheet

    • @gasb2g61
      @gasb2g61 Před 3 měsíci

      Me too please Matt. Cheers

    • @keesel
      @keesel Před 3 měsíci

      Send the cheat sheet page 28 Syncopation by Tom Reed

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      More than happy to send it to you all. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to all 3 of you.

  • @Lafayette_19
    @Lafayette_19 Před 3 měsíci

    Doubles chest sheet, please. Fantastic explanation, thank you!

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci +1

      You bet. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @roewest
    @roewest Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hi Matt, great video. I'm very interested in the 'double whip' technique you mentioned. Did you already make the video you hinted on?

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      I didn't yet... But that is something I will go over in a future video for sure.

  • @milesnicholas8124
    @milesnicholas8124 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hi Matt. Excellent video. I have some suspicions about my second finger fulcrum on my right hand so would love the doubles cheat sheet please. many Thanks

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci +1

      You got it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.
      If you want some feedback, drop me a short video of you playing doubles too. 😊

  • @jasonshort1437
    @jasonshort1437 Před 3 měsíci

    I love how you used that Ted Reed exercise for developing doubles.

    • @jasonshort1437
      @jasonshort1437 Před 3 měsíci

      Also, you are right... That exaggerated drop catch thing always seemed a little goofy to me.

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Glad you found it helpful. 😁 Happy drumming 🥁

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      I have another Ted Reed variation coming soon btw

  • @craigsmith6045
    @craigsmith6045 Před dnem

    Man your approach is so good. I’m having problems with ghost notes landing quietly and smooth after a good back beat. Toto Rosanna sounds horrible after I land the Back beat landing the ghost note on the snare doesn’t sound smooth enough

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před dnem

      Thanks Craig. This is a common issue you are facing.
      I could do a little video on this. But if you are open to it, I'd be happy to get you in for a free 30 minute session and I'll show you exactly how to solve that with around 5 practise sessions of 20 mins.

  • @kevinkoop3615
    @kevinkoop3615 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Hey Matt, I found this video very helpful... "liked" and "subscribed" If you could point me towards your "Double Cheat sheet" document I would appreciate it.

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks so much for liking, subscribing, and commenting! Sure thing, drop me an email at matt@infinitydrumming.com, and I'll get that straight over to you! I'll send you a full video breaking the cheatsheet down too.

    • @kevinkoop3615
      @kevinkoop3615 Před 4 měsíci

      @@infinitydrumming - Thanks Matt... email sent. : )

  • @jimbarcelona1078
    @jimbarcelona1078 Před 3 měsíci +1

    My doubles , paradiddles, padaflafla as well. Again only traditional

  • @kevincoggins3409
    @kevincoggins3409 Před 3 měsíci

    Doubles cheat sheet. Thank you.

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You are welcome to it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @drummin4jesus175
    @drummin4jesus175 Před 3 měsíci

    1st off I play traditional grip with the left hand. I have a good double stroke roll. Clean and even. My problem with doing the push pull is I cant seem to get the speed I would like.

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks for sharing! I can do a video on speed development in the future. Or if you want to chat with me directly about this... Drop me an email at matt@infinitydrumming.com

  • @dominicfox7491
    @dominicfox7491 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is ace. Could i have the doubles cheat sheet please? Thanks

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You bet. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @RadgeCanary
    @RadgeCanary Před 4 měsíci

    Doubles cheat sheet? Yes please!

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You are welcome to it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @williamthompson5078
    @williamthompson5078 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Double Cheat Sheet

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You are welcome to it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @GraphicMill
    @GraphicMill Před 4 měsíci +1

    Matt, that was great and a much better way to explain and teach the double stroke roll. You need to post more content. I’ve always struggled to get a double as clean as you have it down. So I’ll work on this lesson. A double cheat sheet you say? I’d be interested in that.
    And maybe, break down that double stroke solo you did at the ending. Basically the transition from the roll to the toms and back again so smoothly. 👍

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for the kind words. Happy to send you over the cheat sheet and do a personalised video breaking down how to build up your orchestrations.
      Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @hauntedhose
    @hauntedhose Před 4 měsíci +2

    Subbed

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Thankyou! 🙏 Lemme know what kind of topics you want to see lessons on in the future here.

  • @BONNIEINBITS
    @BONNIEINBITS Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great vid. Cheat sheet please.

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You got it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @michaelfraters831
    @michaelfraters831 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Where can I get the doubles cheat sheet? Thanks

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Just send me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @philmayne3308
    @philmayne3308 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hi Matt can I get the doubles cheat sheet? Phil

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Of course. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @JDPelayoPetit
    @JDPelayoPetit Před 3 měsíci +1

    Doubles cheat sheet please!

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You bet. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @CnaqeIyez
    @CnaqeIyez Před 3 měsíci +1

    Doubles cheatsheet

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You got it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @user-lf3qm8nw3w
    @user-lf3qm8nw3w Před 3 měsíci

    I have done all the damn practice techniques but I can't break the barrier of doing it fast .what the hell am I doing wrong

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      I understand your frustration. The two things that help are focusing on perfecting your motion slow and spending 5 mins every day going slow to fast and doing sprints and jogs. Additionally bursting with subdivisions helps a ton.
      I will do a video on this soon here. But if you want further help, reach out to me at matt@infinitydrumming.com

  • @einarabelc5
    @einarabelc5 Před 4 měsíci

    Selling Moeller as a new thing..😂😂

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Not at all. I teach that you need Moeller to do it. However, the double whip has a specific emphasis on the second stroke not present in the classic Moeller motion.

  • @user-qv7dx3im1p
    @user-qv7dx3im1p Před 4 měsíci

    Too wordy

  • @p.diddle
    @p.diddle Před 4 měsíci +2

    Doubles cheat sheet

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      Of course. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @CnaqeIyez
    @CnaqeIyez Před 3 měsíci

    Doubles cheatsheet

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You got it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @davidmartin9758
    @davidmartin9758 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Doubles cheat sheet

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      For sure. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.

  • @TheDixonsFamily
    @TheDixonsFamily Před 4 měsíci +1

    Doubles cheat sheet

    • @infinitydrumming
      @infinitydrumming  Před 3 měsíci

      You got it. Drop me a quick email at matt@infinitydrumming.com and I'll get that doubles cheat sheet over to you.