REN- SU!ClDE (REACTION) CHERISH EVERY MOMENT WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY!
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The tune itself is about his own struggles with it. Ren added the last part about Joe after he had an interview with Knox Hill. Ren thought it felt incomplete. Amazing reaction. We’re not mad. You guys are experiencing a perfectly human reaction to an art so layered in pain. How does Ren do it. It’s weirdly catchy and then boom he hits you with the raw feels. Like Dahm it hits hard.
If you want to get a real insight into Ren - He did a twitch session just after Suicide was released . It was about 2 hours long and the time flew by - he talked about making the video , about Joe and then Sam and Josh - his friends who are his video people were visiting him in Canada and they came on the twitch session and by the end there was so much joking between the 3 of them answering the folks posting questions and comments on the Twitch stream ,we were all laughing . At the end my stomach ached from laughing so hard. Ren had arranged this twitch stream to make sure we were all ok after the Suicide release - just a great human being .
I’m gonna watch that today! Get a little sadness in and some laughter. It’s hard to listen to it but to hear Ren explain the pain and everything he put into the song is going to make it even harder
Ren's Twitch stream that day was both therapeutic and hilarious. The spoonful of sugar that helped the medicine go down 😉 Deffo check it out ✌🏼😎💜
@@emplula 😢😂❤
@@UnknownPerson-rr5nz 💜😎
It was a good stream. Is Ren bi? No, but maybe? (Inside joke from the stream)
The Menai Bridge connects the Isle of Angelsey with the Welsh mainland. The water under the bridge is called the Menai Strait and has very strong currents. It is likely that Joe was quickly washed out into the Irish Sea. The volunteers of the Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI) searched for his body for several days. Ren was running to the bridge to stop Joe from jumping but arrived two minutes too late - he had already gone
For those not aware of the events behind this song
@RenMakesMusic
And here's (part of) the writeup that Ren shared before the premiere and sent to his email list:
I first met Joe when I was 8 years old, my friend Josh said I had to meet this guy, so we both walked over to his, it took about 10 minutes from my house. I was greeted by this kid covered head to toe in freckles, he grinned at us, climbed onto the back of his sofa and screamed “Swanton Bomb!” then front flipped off the top and landed right onto his back on a stone floor. He lay still for a moment, twitched a few times, then got up, grinned at us, brushed himself off, and did it again.
This was Joe. He’d do anything to make people laugh. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. He was there when we stole our first cigarettes out of his mums pack, way too young. He was there when I had my first kiss, with a girl twice my size on the back of the 42 bus. He was there when I first got so drunk I threw up in the woods after drinking as much white lightning Cider as we could. I was there when he did his first backflip on skates, and saw him do a 720 off of the pier cave, that moment became legendary.
Joe was the funny one in our friend group, he’d make us laugh till it hurt. No one had a bad word to say about him. It was impossible not to like him. Usually we put celebrities, athletes and actors on pedestals, turn them into role models and admire them from a far. The person I admired was Joe.
Him and Sagar knew every word to the songs id write, we’d get drunk at parties and they’d be singing along as loud as they could. It gave me a lot of confidence back then.
On Christmas Eve 2010 I was sitting in a pub with Joe, he’d been feeling low after a couple of consecutive break ups. He tried to check himself into a mental health outpatient facility a few weeks earlier but they turned him away because he didn’t have an appointment. He turned to me and said that sometimes he wished he could just walk into the sea and keep walking. He said it in a kind of half joking throw away comment type of way, then took a sip of his drink, walked over to the juke box and put Dig by Incubus on. If I knew that was the last time I’d see Joe id have hugged him, told him how much I loved him, how much I looked up to him, how much we all loved him, and I wouldn’t have left that pub. I didn’t know that, so I finished my drink, said happy Christmas and left.
Two nights after Christmas I got woken up by a phone call at 3am, it was my friend Ella. She told me Joe was on the Menai Bridge, a large suspension bridge connecting the main land to the isle of Anglesey where we lived. He’d been on the phone to her in tears saying goodbye. He told her to tell everyone he loved them. I pulled on my clothes as fast as I could and started running toward the bridge. It was up a hill. I lived about a ten minute walk away, I could run it in five. As I ran I started dialling then redialing his number. The line was busy, which was a good sign, it meant he was still on the phone to someone. As I got about halfway, the busy tone changed. It told me the line was out of service. I got a sinking feeling and picked up my speed. I arrived to the bridge minutes after I left my house. It was deafeningly quiet. I was the first person to arrive. I got there probably about 2 minutes too late.
Joe’s body was never found.
Initially we refused to believe he was gone. The coastguard came out that night, with boats, and helicopters. Me and my friends spent the next 10 days putting up missing posters everywhere we could, walking up and down beaches with flashlights, getting about 3 hours sleep a night. When you’re walking up and down a beach with a torch when its dark everything looks like a body. We still haven’t found Joe.
As his birthday came around, I wrote a song, freckled angels, a song I dedicated to Joe which I sang in front of his friends and family. A charity football match was put on for him, raising money for the RNLI where I won two bottles of wine in a raffle, I drank them both as quickly as I could, naturally, turned to my friend and probably slurred something along the lines of “This is the last time I ever drink” That was 12 years ago, I haven’t touched a drop of alcohol since.
Joe was on the phone with one of their friends. Another friend called Ren who lived about a 10 minute walk from the bridge. Ren said he could run it in 5. He kept trying to call Joe and getting a busy signal. About 1/2 way there the busy signal became out of service. Ren was the 1st one to the bridge, but it was empty. They searched for days... he said in an article/interview that walking the beach at night with a flashlight, everything looks like a body. That broke my heart.
You guys seem to be getting more deep and and mature in your reactions - It’s like Ren is allowing you to stretch and grow . Great reaction guys . Love you both .
Ren for sure gets our brains turning. The uptempo Ren we can joke and play but the serious sound of Ren we have to really try and tune in because we know it’s about to get deep. And it’s such a serious topic
Posted by Ren
Ren:
Today I want to write something beautiful and eloquent but I’ve been staring at my computer screen for the past 10 minutes blankly. So I’ll just write.
Today, the 1st of June is my friend Joe’s birthday.
I first met Joe when I was 8 years old, my friend Josh said I had to meet this guy, so we both walked over to his, it took about 10 minutes from my house. I was greeted by this kid covered head to toe in freckles, he grinned at us, climbed onto the back of his sofa and screamed “Swanton Bomb!” then front flipped off the top and landed right onto his back on a stone floor. He lay still for a moment, twitched a few times, then got up, grinned at us, brushed himself off, and did it again.
This was Joe. He’d do anything to make people laugh. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. He was there when we stole our first cigarettes out of his mums pack, way too young. He was there when I had my first kiss, with a girl twice my size on the back of the 42 bus. He was there when I first got so drunk I threw up in the woods after drinking as much white lightning Cider as we could. I was there when he did his first backflip on skates, and saw him do a 720 off of the pier cave, that moment became legendary.
Joe was the funny one in our friend group, he’d make us laugh till it hurt. No one had a bad word to say about him. It was impossible not to like him. Usually we put celebrities, athletes and actors on pedestals, turn them into role models and admire them from a far. The person I admired was Joe.
Him and Sagar knew every word to the songs id write, we’d get drunk at parties and they’d be singing along as loud as they could. It gave me a lot of confidence back then.
On Christmas Eve 2010 I was sitting in a pub with Joe, he’d been feeling low after a couple of consecutive break ups. He tried to check himself into a mental health outpatient facility a few weeks earlier but they turned him away because he didn’t have an appointment. He turned to me and said that sometimes he wished he could just walk into the sea and keep walking. He said it in a kind of half joking throw away comment type of way, then took a sip of his drink, walked over to the juke box and put Dig by Incubus on. If I knew that was the last time I’d see Joe id have hugged him, told him how much I loved him, how much I looked up to him, how much we all loved him, and I wouldn’t have left that pub. I didn’t know that, so I finished my drink, said happy Christmas and left.
Two nights after Christmas I got woken up by a phone call at 3am, it was my friend Ella. She told me Joe was on the Menai Bridge, a large suspension bridge connecting the main land to the isle of Anglesey where we lived. He’d been on the phone to her in tears saying goodbye. He told her to tell everyone he loved them. I pulled on my clothes as fast as I could and started running toward the bridge. It was up a hill. I lived about a ten minute walk away, I could run it in five. As I ran I started dialling then redialing his number. The line was busy, which was a good sign, it meant he was still on the phone to someone. As I got about halfway, the busy tone changed. It told me the line was out of service. I got a sinking feeling and picked up my speed. I arrived to the bridge minutes after I left my house. It was deafeningly quiet. I was the first person to arrive. I got there probably about 2 minutes too late.
Joe’s body was never found.
Initially we refused to believe he was gone. The coastguard came out that night, with boats, and helicopters. Me and my friends spent the next 10 days putting up missing posters everywhere we could, walking up and down beaches with flashlights, getting about 3 hours sleep a night. When you’re walking up and down a beach with a torch when its dark everything looks like a body. We still haven’t found Joe.
As his birthday came around, I wrote a song, freckled angels, a song I dedicated to Joe which I sang in front of his friends and family. A charity football match was put on for him, raising money for the RNLI where I won two bottles of wine in a raffle, I drank them both as quickly as I could, naturally, turned to my friend and probably slurred something along the lines of “This is the last time I ever drink” That was 12 years ago, I haven’t touched a drop of alcohol since.
My first ever album I named Freckled Angels in tribute of one of the best people I ever knew.
Skip forward some years. I’d been sitting on this song I wrote a few years ago. It always felt a little incomplete. It was going to be my next release, but I was dreading it because of this feeling of incompletion. I decided, very last minute, to do something about it. I sat by my piano, and the rest of the song fell out of me. I hadn’t thought about Joe in a little while, and the song initially wasn’t going to be about him, but the words all fell out of me. I wrote and recorded a whole 2 minutes extra, recording each part as I wrote it. Tears spewing out of my eyes pretty much the whole time, and decided not to do my usual thing of perfecting each line, I just recorded every line as it came. This will be my next release. You can turn on notifications by following the link in the comments below
During this campaign I will be raising money for the RNLI, the group of brave men and women who spent hours tirelessly looking for Joe after the night he went missing. I'll also be donating 50% of the profit on all copies of the 'Freckled Angels' album directly to Joes family as a nice surprise gift. I will include links to the RNLI donation page below where 100% of the money will go to support them, I will be travelling to the UK later this month to make a music video, and have carved out a couple of days where I will travel to my home town on the isle of Anglesey to present the royal national lifeboat institution with a cheque of all the money raised.
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The bit that gets me is when he says he never calls his friends from back then. He keeps his distance. That's his plaster cast. Talking to them just reminds him too much and it's too painful. Broke my heart. He ran all the way to that bridge as fast as he could. Tough to listen to. X
That entire part gave me so many chills and heart was just pounding. It’s so sad😢
I felt like this when my younger sister died (suddenly and with no warning), I found it really difficult to hang with our mutual friends for the longest time, because just being with them reminded me so poignantly that she was gone and never coming back. So on the level of dealing with a profound loss I can totally relate 😢
Love all your reactions guys. ❤ Greetings from the UK. We can't change what happened for Ren, but we can keep an eye on our friends and family xxx
@Springbok 😢 I'm sorry,
@@user-jy2pp8ol3g thank you, it's been 13 years now and at least I can now, and we can remember her beautiful spirit together, but it took time x
I totally understand this reaction guys. The song is so powerful it leaves you a loss for words. RIP Joe you were obviously so well loved. Please if anyone is in a dark place please reach out the world is better with you here!
It’s a soul-wrenching loss, I’ve never heard anyone convey it so authentically as he did in that final verse.
Keep spreading the love! Mainstream music is so bland, this is the kind of real artistry people are hungry for!!
Ren posted this under this song in the comments:
@RenMakesMusic
2 weeks ago
Today I want to write something beautiful and eloquent but I’ve been staring at my computer screen for the past 10 minutes blankly. So I’ll just write.
Today, the 1st of June is my friend Joe’s birthday.
I first met Joe when I was 8 years old, my friend Josh said I had to meet this guy, so we both walked over to his, it took about 10 minutes from my house. I was greeted by this kid covered head to toe in freckles, he grinned at us, climbed onto the back of his sofa and screamed “Swanton Bomb!” then front flipped off the top and landed right onto his back on a stone floor. He lay still for a moment, twitched a few times, then got up, grinned at us, brushed himself off, and did it again.
This was Joe. He’d do anything to make people laugh. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. He was there when we stole our first cigarettes out of his mums pack, way too young. He was there when I had my first kiss, with a girl twice my size on the back of the 42 bus. He was there when I first got so drunk I threw up in the woods after drinking as much white lightning Cider as we could. I was there when he did his first backflip on skates, and saw him do a 720 off of the pier cave, that moment became legendary.
Joe was the funny one in our friend group, he’d make us laugh till it hurt. No one had a bad word to say about him. It was impossible not to like him. Usually we put celebrities, athletes and actors on pedestals, turn them into role models and admire them from a far. The person I admired was Joe.
Him and Sagar knew every word to the songs id write, we’d get drunk at parties and they’d be singing along as loud as they could. It gave me a lot of confidence back then.
On Christmas Eve 2010 I was sitting in a pub with Joe, he’d been feeling low after a couple of consecutive break ups. He tried to check himself into a mental health outpatient facility a few weeks earlier but they turned him away because he didn’t have an appointment. He turned to me and said that sometimes he wished he could just walk into the sea and keep walking. He said it in a kind of half joking throw away comment type of way, then took a sip of his drink, walked over to the juke box and put Dig by Incubus on. If I knew that was the last time I’d see Joe id have hugged him, told him how much I loved him, how much I looked up to him, how much we all loved him, and I wouldn’t have left that pub. I didn’t know that, so I finished my drink, said happy Christmas and left.
Two nights after Christmas I got woken up by a phone call at 3am, it was my friend Ella. She told me Joe was on the Menai Bridge, a large suspension bridge connecting the main land to the isle of Anglesey where we lived. He’d been on the phone to her in tears saying goodbye. He told her to tell everyone he loved them. I pulled on my clothes as fast as I could and started running toward the bridge. It was up a hill. I lived about a ten minute walk away, I could run it in five. As I ran I started dialling then redialing his number. The line was busy, which was a good sign, it meant he was still on the phone to someone. As I got about halfway, the busy tone changed. It told me the line was out of service. I got a sinking feeling and picked up my speed. I arrived to the bridge minutes after I left my house. It was deafeningly quiet. I was the first person to arrive. I got there probably about 2 minutes too late.
Joe’s body was never found.
Initially we refused to believe he was gone. The coastguard came out that night, with boats, and helicopters. Me and my friends spent the next 10 days putting up missing posters everywhere we could, walking up and down beaches with flashlights, getting about 3 hours sleep a night. When you’re walking up and down a beach with a torch when its dark everything looks like a body. We still haven’t found Joe.
As his birthday came around, I wrote a song, freckled angels, a song I dedicated to Joe which I sang in front of his friends and family. A charity football match was put on for him, raising money for the RNLI where I won two bottles of wine in a raffle, I drank them both as quickly as I could, naturally, turned to my friend and probably slurred something along the lines of “This is the last time I ever drink” That was 12 years ago, I haven’t touched a drop of alcohol since.
My first ever album I named Freckled Angels in tribute of one of the best people I ever knew.
Skip forward some years. I’d been sitting on this song I wrote a few years ago. It always felt a little incomplete. It was going to be my next release, but I was dreading it because of this feeling of incompletion. I decided, very last minute, to do something about it. I sat by my piano, and the rest of the song fell out of me. I hadn’t thought about Joe in a little while, and the song initially wasn’t going to be about him, but the words all fell out of me. I wrote and recorded a whole 2 minutes extra, recording each part as I wrote it. Tears spewing out of my eyes pretty much the whole time, and decided not to do my usual thing of perfecting each line, I just recorded every line as it came.
During this campaign I will be raising money for the RNLI, the group of brave men and women who spent hours tirelessly looking for Joe after the night he went missing. I'll also be donating 50% of the profit on all copies of the 'Freckled Angels' album directly to Joes family as a nice surprise gift. I will include links to the RNLI donation page below where 100% of the money will go to support them, I will be travelling to the UK later this month to make a music video, and have carved out a couple of days where I will travel to my home town on the isle of Anglesey to present the royal national lifeboat institution with a cheque of all the money raised.
Turn on notifications for the video here: czcams.com/video/n3JNtfi4Vb0/video.html
Raising money for RNLI :
www.justgiving.com/page/ren-gill-1685546882254?Link&/ren-gill-1685546882254&
Freckled Angels album: renmakesmerch.com/products/freckled-angels-cd
❤thank you guys for this heartfelt reaction…..your love/support of Ren means a lot to him I’m sure. You’re right, it was very brave of him to share this with the world…. ❤Ren❤Joe
Ren arrived literally 5 min later
One of my favorite quotes is the “Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind. Always.”
R.I.P. Joe Hughes. Lost, but never forgotten. 💙
The first part of the song was about Ren's own feelings. The second part is about the hurt and pain caused by losing Joe in this way. In a recent Twitch Ren assured everyone that he is feeling fine. He has also said previously that witnessing the hurt and pain that Joe's suicide caused to all the people that loved him, has made him determined not to follow the same path
Sentences like "some people know me as hope" show that he would never choose this path. He loves life and struggles with it far too much.
@@annelix When he was younger, and particularly in the early stages of his illness, he did contemplate it. As he has come to terms with his life, and his illness, he has "learned to relax" etc
❤️🖤❤️ The shift in perspective of contemplating ending his own life to experiencing the grief and loss of Joe who did, utterly heartbreaking. Joe, in a tragically bleak way, may have helped Ren to not make the same decision.❤️🖤❤️
Joe Hughes, jumped from the Menai Bridge. He dedicated his first album, Freckled Angels to Joe & a couple songs have referenced him as well.
Ren added the last part about Joe after he had an interview with Knox Hill. Ren thought it felt incomplete
Ren being late. He wasn't late in the since that there was a time Ren was supposed to be there. Joe was sending out goodbye call/messages (this was at like 3am). Ren rushed out the door and made it to the bridge minutes after Joe's last moments.... So, yes this is true. Joe was one of Ren's best friends. I think Joe is part of the reason Ren is here with us today. Ren saw what Joe's passing did to him and those around him and couldn't do that to his friends...
The song with Ren and Chinchilla - "How To Be Me" was also a tribute to Joe. That entire song was written from Joe's perspective except the last last where Ren says "I miss you".
This song had me in tears I lost 3 ppl in my life to suicide it’s not a great feeling at all 1 was a guy friend I had a crush on I had just got out of a abusive relationship in HS he was 16 I was 15 he told me everyday one day I’m going to marry you kissed me and asked me out 3 days later my ex and his group of friends jumped him told him some messed up shit and well they beat him I was being drugged and raped by my ex and his brother took my virginity I somehow managed to get out heard shots fire and screaming and i ran to my friend house his grandma said he wasn’t home went to check the park we always hung out at he wasn’t there next day after I got checked out by the doctor kids at school were saying you hear about that boy who killed himself his grandma called later that day telling he killed himself and left 2 notes one for her and one for me he said I really did love you and wanted to marry you someday but your life is more important my ex was going to kill me if he didn’t leave me alone and told him to die or he’d hurt me and his grandma so my ex didn’t kill me but he hurt me in a different way for leaving him my friend then asked for me to forgive him someday I did I forgive everyone who hurt me or died my uncle, my friend, and my cousin all talked to me last before taking there lives they said because I was a comfort voice and they’d be ok but they weren’t forgiveness is so powerful and it helped heal me but sometimes it still plays in my head sometimes that whole day his smile his laugh his last words b4 shit hit the fan he’d be 25 now I’m 24 when he died it was like a part of me went to so I get this song sorry about all that anyway here’s the story about RENs song for his friend at the end hope this helps
Despite what the song is about and the theme of the heartfelt lyrics, ‘Su!cIde’ delivers a melody that can be described as upbeat as Ren seeks to find a balance in amongst the bittersweet sorrow of losing a loved one in this manner.
The story behind this song is a very emotional one, as you will see below.
“Today, the 1st of June is my friend Joe’s birthday.
I first met Joe when I was 8 years old, my friend Josh said I had to meet this guy, so we both walked over to his, it took about 10 minutes from my house. I was greeted by this kid covered head to toe in freckles, he grinned at us, climbed onto the back of his sofa and screamed “Swanton Bomb!” then front flipped off the top and landed right onto his back on a stone floor. He lay still for a moment, twitched a few times, then got up, grinned at us, brushed himself off, and did it again.
This was Joe. He’d do anything to make people laugh. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. He was there when we stole our first cigarettes out of his mums pack, way too young. He was there when I had my first kiss, with a girl twice my size on the back of the 42 bus. He was there when I first got so drunk I threw up in the woods after drinking as much white lightning Cider as we could. I was there when he did his first backflip on skates, and saw him do a 720 off of the pier cave, that moment became legendary.
Joe was the funny one in our friend group, he’d make us laugh till it hurt. No one had a bad word to say about him. It was impossible not to like him. Usually we put celebrities, athletes and actors on pedestals, turn them into role models and admire them from a far. The person I admired was Joe.
Him and Sagar knew every word to the songs id write, we’d get drunk at parties and they’d be singing along as loud as they could. It gave me a lot of confidence back then.
On Christmas Eve 2010 I was sitting in a pub with Joe, he’d been feeling low after a couple of consecutive break ups. He tried to check himself into a mental health outpatient facility a few weeks earlier but they turned him away because he didn’t have an appointment. He turned to me and said that sometimes he wished he could just walk into the sea and keep walking.
He said it in a kind of half joking throw away comment type of way, then took a sip of his drink, walked over to the juke box and put Dig by Incubus on. If I knew that was the last time I’d see Joe id have hugged him, told him how much I loved him, how much I looked up to him, how much we all loved him, and I wouldn’t have left that pub. I didn’t know that, so I finished my drink, said happy Christmas and left.
Two nights after Christmas I got woken up by a phone call at 3am, it was my friend Ella. She told me Joe was on the Menai Bridge, a large suspension bridge connecting the main land to the isle of Anglesey where we lived. He’d been on the phone to her in tears saying goodbye. He told her to tell everyone he loved them.
I pulled on my clothes as fast as I could and started running toward the bridge. It was up a hill. I lived about a ten minute walk away, I could run it in five.
As I ran I started dialling then redialing his number. The line was busy, which was a good sign, it meant he was still on the phone to someone. As I got about halfway, the busy tone changed. It told me the line was out of service. I got a sinking feeling and picked up my speed.
I arrived to the bridge minutes after I left my house. It was deafeningly quiet. I was the first person to arrive. I got there probably about 2 minutes too late.
Joe’s body was never found.
Initially we refused to believe he was gone. The coastguard came out that night, with boats, and helicopters. Me and my friends spent the next 10 days putting up missing posters everywhere we could, walking up and down beaches with flashlights, getting about 3 hours sleep a night.
When you’re walking up and down a beach with a torch when its dark everything looks like a body. We still haven’t found Joe.
As his birthday came around, I wrote a song, freckled angels, a song I dedicated to Joe which I sang in front of his friends and family.
A charity football match was put on for him, raising money for the RNLI where I won two bottles of wine in a raffle, I drank them both as quickly as I could, naturally, turned to my friend and probably slurred something along the lines of “This is the last time I ever drink”
That was 12 years ago, I haven’t touched a drop of alcohol since.” Ren will raising money for the RNLI, the group of brave men and women who spent hours tirelessly looking for Joe after the night he went missing
It’s such a hard song to digest in one take.. I knew it would be hard for you guys ..🥲🥲most of us have had a while to process and come to terms with this song.. Collectively we all have heartache for Ren.. Rest In Peace Joe.. the part that connected me was during the last sequence of this song for a moment Joe’s face is morphed into REN’s.. I feel that was his way of saying Joe’s spirit always is inside of him and gives him the courage to stay strong for both of them now.. that’s just my take on it.. love you guys and thanks!♥️🎶♥️
Good job you had your seat belt on all the way through this!!😂😂
Ren grew up on an island. The Menai Bridge is over the ocean, which is why his body was long gone.
Jokes death was reported in the local papers. They’ve never found his body, it must’ve been caught by the tides. The search continued for 10days, the RNLI (Royal National Lifeboat Institute) searched till it was obvious it was pointless. That’s why Ren did a fundraiser for RNLI recently, he so appreciated the lengths they went to, to try to find Joe’s body. Not having a proper funeral must’ve made it SO much harder. It truly was a tragedy!
Your serious reactions are just as good as the fun ones, Boys. Thank you - from England ❤
You are sitting exactly as I did after seeing this for the first time. Without being able to connect thoughts and words. I think a lot of us have sat like that. But it's such a perfect sign of how important a song this is - and how important a conversation it creates.
Thanks to you 2. It's a beautiful reaction you made here. thanks ❤
This song was about Ren himself. The entire first part, the actual "song" that he wrote, all about him and his feelings and struggles with suicidal thoughts. The end is obviously all about Joe and was added a couple of months ago, over a year after the song was finished. A lot of people assume the entire thing is about Joe, but it just isn't. Ren has obviously not been able to let go of the pain, the regret and the blame he's put on himself over the situation. Which makes sense, as he was literally minutes away from potentially being able to stop Joe from jumping into The Swellies. Joe was his close friend from the time they were 8 years old and they would spend weeks/months at a time at each other's house. You just don't get over that kind of loss. Keep an eye out, Ren is releasing an acoustic version of Suicide in a couple of weeks. Followed, somewhat ironically enough (at least in theme) by a song called Murderer in July.
Several other commentators have said this video is so multilayered that its good to just watch the video with not audio and then listen to the lyrics . So as not to miss anything . Love your reaction as always
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Love to you both 💙 & to anyone that has experienced lose in this way, I know it's hard 💙
Great reaction ❤
Ren posted a story about meeting Joe when he was 8 yrs old. I let you read Ren’s post because he writes so much better than me 😂. But it has me feeling like I almost knew Joe. Thats Ren for you.
You two are so njce people
This is Ren saying the pain that is left behind made him realise that it’s not the answer for him although he suffered so much physical pain with his illness and mentally with Joes death.
I believe that if you can not get over a thing, (anything), Get it OUT into the Open, shine a Bright light on it, share it! Feel it. Accept it. Then slowy move away from it. It wont disappear, but its power to overwhelm you shrinks.
All the years that have past since Joe’s suicide and, Ren ‘s pain still resonates. That’s the price of those left behind. A Buddhist would say “Things Change” don’t give up.
I think no matter the circumstances, I think anytime someone you care about takes their own life, you feel like there must have been something you could have done. Six years for me and still have what-if days.
Oh yea for sure! I had a buddy of mine from HighSchool in our own little group take his own life. It was hard because we all lived in the same neighborhood. Would hang out after school at each others houses. Go in the woods and play then he took his life in the woods one day right after school. It hurt. Think about it Everytime I pass by those woods down the street😞
Trust me guys, everyone watching this with you has tears flowing right now. StY strong
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Moving reaction Boyz, and love how you analyse his lyrics real-time, even when they punch in the gutt, like this one😉👍🇬🇧 RIP Joe Hughes ❤
This song leaves you speechless because of the raw realness.
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We all remember when we lost our innocence and saw that jump in a world of possibilities.
And that loss became too much to take.
saw the premiere notification and got excited but was so busy i missed it and didnt have time till now! one of the first reactions i watched to Ren, i like this song. great reaction, as always. much love 💖💖
We didn’t premiere this one so you didn’t miss it 😁 Just had it schedule for when it was going to be posted 😁 Much lovee KitKat❤️🙏🏼
Real emotions, thank you, guys. Greetings from Belgium
Ren also lost hisnother friend Callum 2 months after to suicide. Your reaction was very touching.
The fragility thing can also mean - one step, and you can see how fragile our own life is. One step - and it's gone.
Thanks for the reaction and I'm glad people who react to it create a discussion on the subject.
He is doing the 3rd Money game. Thanks Boys ❤
I’m exciteddddd
@@TheReactTwinss me toooooo!
Rest in Peace Joe!! All you can say is forever young.
He was drinking with Joe that night he left and went home then got a call 3 hours later from a friend that Joe was standing on the bridge fixing to jump so he ran there and was 5 minutes away when he jumped and they never found him
Hey it’s Mr Mills, it’s Mr Mills. Yet another great reaction, however I was surprised it took you this long to get to it. This song is one of the very few that just got me… Don’t know what to say to it to do it justice. Just glad CZcams hasn’t taken it down for the subject. Maybe someone there actually listened to it and saw the good it could do. Anyway, have a great day and laters.
The dump truck thing is just saying his childhood was destroyed in that moment. The innocence was gone. The metaphor is that his childhood went over the edge with Joe
Joe jumped into the ocean. The bridge spanned the mainland of Wales to the small island they lived on.
THank you both for your heartfelt, genuine reaction. I think it is normal to not know what to say after hearing that last part. Thank you for reminding us to check in with our loved ones... you just never know what someone could be going through inside. Love to you both❤
Huge 500 foot bridge over estuary flowing fast into the sea!
Ten said he was about 2minutes late running to the bridge
Sending you guys hugs!!! 🥰
Whoa, I just saw this vid 6 days after it was posted!!! I don't know why!!
I truly love being a backseat driver with you guys!!
Hopefully I'll see your next uploads sooner!!
I believe Ren said there can be beauty in sadness. Certainly this song is beautiful but painfully sad too.
Your empathy shines. ❤
A great reaction once again guys!! I agree with you both this one is harddd!! I think the key takeaway from it (and tezz said it as well) is just keep eye out for your friends and family and keep in touch and listen as none of us really know what someone else is going through.
Its been good to see all RENegades expressing exactly that and a community in unison, thats pretty special in a world thats divided everywhere!!
You guys are very charming. A good addition to the Renverse! (Maybe a bit less belching and knuckle-cracking, but I am probably older than most of your audience.) 😊
The first part is how he felt but after losing Joe he said he could never put people through that pain and sorrow.
Thank you for taking the time to comment on some of the lyrics in the second half of the song - especially where he talks about imagining how Joe must have looked down and saw tranquility, and how just one step can eliminate all possibilities & expose our fragility.
Lyrically, I like how he phrases his coping "his plaster cast" by creating distance from his old friends. Not a Band Aid, but something stronger - a cast - that is supposed to fix broken things. And, obviously, it's Ren that feels broken.
Amazing, but gutting. Thank you for reacting with authenticity.
This one hurts but it’s so beautiful. Always enjoy your Ren and Chinchilla reactions and appreciate your thoughts. Sending love from the Uk ❤
This one was super emotional but was a really beautiful song! Thanks for the love and support ❤️❤️❤️🙏🏼
Great reaction guys, you are talking about the subject which is important to REN and everyone feeling lost in all our communities around the world 🌎.
Sending peace and kindness from Australia 🇦🇺
🎶🎶❤️🎶🎶 #Ren
Why it's important to let the people you care about how much they mean to you and your there whenever they need you .
The ocean
great upload guys, thanks
No, Thank youu🙏🏼❤️
Pray for everyone......we all need love❤
You guys are great. Very enjoyable to watch
Good job guys! God bless both of you 🙏 you're helping
😢 That was a tough one.
Your empathy was so moving . Yes this was a difficult one ,but as you said it is beautiful . Thank you for your lovely, kind reaction. Be well . I will see you in the next one.
You two are always so thoughtful and authentic. I can’t imagine videoing myself reacting to this as I was a blubbering mess when I saw it. I especially can’t imagine writing something so personal much less conveying it publicly as Ren has so bravely and beautifully done. It is an important message to those with suic*dal ideation as you can plainly see the devastating effects such an act has on those left behind, even a decade later… 😑 I suggest you check out Ren’s, Pocket Full of Pain, which also deals with suicidal ideation ultimately has an uplifting and hopeful message. 💔❤️🩹❤
I love ya'lls reactions. I really wish Ren would do a session with you guys. You both FEEL the music the same way we all do ❤ much love
This hits everyone hard no need to apologize for your natural human reaction ❤much love take care
Great reaction guys.
Love you guys.
This is a really hard song to listen to. I've lost count of the amount of reactions I've watched on it and every time I choke up at the same point, even though I know it's coming. Your reaction is honest and that's all that matters.
Deserved respect from UK ❤️
Big hugs to all of us❤😢
Beautiful review guys.
Guys amazing as usual. Definitely a tough subject.
Thanks guys ❤❤❤
Compassionate reaction guys, thank you!
Take care guys - It was a tough one for sure.
Respect ❤
R.I.P Joe Hughes ❤ Thanks guys x
Hi from the Uk 😊 Love you two you're so real and love how you feel the songs you react to. I came through your Ren reactions but stay for your energy and realness. I know you've enjoyed The Big Push too so i have a recommendation : oh my woman - it's brilliant!
Oh i really think you should invite guests into the backseat occasionally- maybe even the artists....oh can you imagine how epic it would be to have Ren in the backseat !!! Or me, i will come visit😂😂😂
first part of the tune feels like a trap to lower us into a false sense of security.. then BOOM he brings the fire.. that ending part is a classic, listened many many times !
🫂🫂s guys you did better then me to hold back the tears
Sad track 💔 u did a great job lads ❤❤
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You're good lads 💚
Well done guys - not easy to react to. You did yourselves proud ❤
he talks about this in more detail on the Knox Hill interview yall should watch it.
Great reaction.....but a tough watch
Y'all gotta read his comment about this song. I don't think it's pinned but it explains a lot
I’ll make sure we do that first before listening that way we have an idea of what it’s about! Thank you for telling us! I believe it’ll help out even more
This is a beautiful song but so heavy 💔
On a brighter note, Money Game part 3 was getting shot today, so looking forward to that one 🙌 much love guys ❤
The video is A.I. generated
Love your reviews of REN it's probably the most sincere reaction to this particular song I have seen. It's a shame Joe's body was never found and the pain REN feels still is astounding! His music connects like no other artist currently out there and he is in my mind a real treasure for the UK.
Ren.... For Joe.. please