BRUCE LEE WAS NEVER BEAT BY VICTOR MOORE-Part 2 FINAL
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- This video hopefully puts to rest the statement Bruce Lee was never beat by Victor Moore. My first video was based on research by myself,and it seems that some believe that he was just an actor. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but i base my views on cold hard study and research.
The TRUTH shall make you FREE! Thank You Grandmaster for correcting millions of people on who Bruce Lee really was a Great Martial Artist.
No one is faster or deliver a powerful ko punch as bruce
Only a very high caliber combative shaolin can equal or better than bruce
@@yang5159
Shaolin Kung Fu is mostly fantasy you've watched too much movies!
@@danstafford5977 How old are you...15?
why are peoples still talking about this man almost 50 years after his death? because he was a legend and no one else from this era is end of story.
They are still talking about him... Or those that talk about him in a negative sense that is... Have failed to ever reach anywhere even near his popularity and his uniqueness... And people see that as a great obstacle so they try to fault find him
Chuck Norris?
LOL, I just saw this video: czcams.com/video/k1vH9shUyvw/video.html
This Vic Moore guy is the worst liar I've ever seen! He couldn't grab or block Bruce Lee's punches so he lied that Bruce couldn't land punches on him! It's so hilarious! Is he too embarrassed or something?
Tony Peterson Vic did block his punches, Bruce Lee got embarrassed and then punched to the head getting no where near him! That’s fact and on tape!
Bruce Lee trained in the physical, psychological, and spiritual form. He learned himself and was able to transform into what he became. A legend.
A film star legend. Excellent martial artist but as a fighter we will never know how good he really was.
Saludos compañero! El gran Joe Louis, el insigne Edmundo Parker, entre otros muchos contemporáneos de Bruce Lee testimonian su eficacia en la realidad. Un fuera de serie !!! Bendiciones y éxitos !!
He was involved in street fights everyday, he was a shoe leather martial artist
bruce lee was a legend, and to give him the badmouth is disgracefull, and the so called tough guys who said they could beat him, only said it when he was dead.
Bruce Lee had a signpost on one of his Dojos that said that he could take any challenges... he had no comers.... to counter that he use a ploy... I'll be the student and you can teach me... haha!
Ya it's very cowardly people say that. Idiot too. Never stops until the world gets clean up.
But vic moore proved him wrong in front of cameras I bet you bruce lee wasn't thinking about a speed rematch or a fight against vic moore he would of crush your favorite martial artist I'll bet that on any given day....
@@slimfall2417 You say that because you're BLACK or Trolling
100% Agreed, My friend
I approve this message. Bruce was the Truth.
Thank you Reggie
Not
@@nathanielradtke7590 Where's your proof lol. Just your no brains and typical one track mind lol. You suck sorry. Have a good day. Cause i'm not always mean like you.
@@Silkmaster4200 So where's YOUR proof? And, you might
want to work on your writing skills.
Just saying.
@@raygsbrelcik5578 where’s your proof ? My words lol, Mr perfect are u a English teacher? I was rushing who cares!
Funny thing is, Bruce never went around bragging about who he could specifically beat or not beat in public. He was confident in his abilities and NEVER needed to play that game. My personal experience has been, it's the people who don't brag that are the ones you need to worry about! I personally noticed it's the ones who constantly brag about who they beat, or could have beaten, that are usually the most harmless to "real" fighters : )
+superstrangevideo Could not agree more. Bruce hag no reason to brag, likewise he would not have backed down from confrontation.
+Geoff Bembridge Forgive my spelling mistake.
+superstrangevideo Labelling people as racist, who in fact were not is not respect: Wong Jack Man and the casting director of Kung Fu, the TV series.
+superstrangevideo A valid point
Alexander Higgins what!!!
we do indeed live in the bruce lee era..... there we never be another like him... he was the last dragon...
+SCROTUM LORD Thank you sir...
What separates Bruce from others is that he was a genius of martial arts. He understood the art of fighting. He understood how the human body worked and how to apply those movements to fighting. His mindset was on a whole different level. Martial arts is just not punching and kicking, but a way of thinkink and living. Bruce was a master of mind body and soul.
...and cocaine
TRUTH!
dan inosanto is no slouch with weapons. ask him how fast bruce lee could whip the weapons around if you still think bruce lee was just an actor.
Don't worry the haters will hate because of jealousy they are keyboard warriors trolls and racist.
Bruce Lee was a martial artist first and foremost... he was an actor to demonstrate and display his art worldwide!
Vid on ping pong Bruce did so impressive. He used Numb chucks.
Yah people say Bruce is just an actor but really in real life he was probably the best fighter in the world but that’s in my opinion
But yes Bruce was a martial artist in real life too thanks for telling this to people
Jealousy that's all!!!! Bruce was the best!!!
Bruce Lee was an Albert Einstein of the martial arts!
I totally agree with you 👍💪👍
Than why he never fought in any tournaments vic moore would of crush bruce lee reason why because he was a movie star vic moore fought for everything he got blood sweat and tears bruce lee was a live stage performer..
@@slimfall2417 Bruce Lee was a martial artist before he was an actor in action movies, you don't move like that on camera and not have any fighting abilitys, he studied and trained martial arts until it ultimately killed him off, addiction is a bad thing no matter what it is, too much of anything will eventually have a devastating effect on your well being even if you were as fit as Bruce was, they say he died from a bleed on the brain from pain meds, I personally think it was from exhaustion but because it was Bruce Lee a martial arts god of his time, he had to die of something but not exhaustion as he was unhuman but ultimately he was human and pushed his body to the limits
@@lea-rw5cb wrong bruce lee died for the same reason many died due to racism amongst his very own kind the Chinese did not want him teaching whites and blacks i know that already i watch the documentary with his students who are still alive today explaining it..
Very well stated, thanks for defending Mr.Lee's legacy.
You are welcome. and thank you for watching my video
reginald stroud.. I'm glad I seen this vid...to clarify the main. .question of was he real fighter or an actor ...he was great in both categories ...and it sounds like he was a well rounded human being. .
reginald stroud do you defend or celebrate any other masters in. Bruce's time such as Duncan Moses Powell mas oyama etc? I saw moore block his punches and even if he didn't those punches don't transfer to a fight. What's the power behind the punches. Most demonstrations as you know have the attacker doing set moves like attempting to grab so you can toss them. People don't fight like that in tall life.
Bruce Lee was legit physical skills, flexibility,physique,and his famous one finger push-up.No one before or since can come close to duplicate.
Still unproven as a fighter outside of controlled environment.
@@harrisdupree3323 so what if wasn't good Martial Artist he wouldn't be on every cover of Martial art magazines 50 yrs after his untimely death.Respect his legacy .Finally if it wasn't for him material wouldn't be taught to non -asians he won that challenge for us to learn the art.Chuck Norris,Steve McQueen,and Kareem Abdul Jabber was also his students.
@@williesherman3525 Stop the D@ck riding pal. There are a lot of great Martial Artist but that doesn't make then great FIGHTERS. That's the fact on Bruce even if it gets your DEPENDS in a knot.
just remember what the late jim kelly said about bruce..
Yes sir, he said that he was the best, period.
jerome abante Amen, I heard his video and Jim Kelly was a bad dude himself..
Sifu Reginald Stroud I could not agree more with your profound words of wisdom and truth! I too grew up in the 1970's and lived thru the Bruce Lee craze and your points are well taken! To me Bruce Lee was the Greatest Martial artist of all time and as you said is celebrated for that around the world!
I was like......why so angry bruh!? I must be dyslexic because I read 'stfu' 😂
Well watching that Bruce Lee wasn't trying to hit him! If he was he'd of floored him! BRUCE LEE was amazeing! May he rest in peace!
The words "if", "would" and "could" are often used when talking about Bruce. I rarely see the word "did".
This is the difference between someone who is realistic and knows what they are talking about, and someone who just wants to have 5mins of fame.
Kind regards from Portugal
Love and respect brother thank you for sending out this clear message to those who clearly don't understand the man and the reason why we love him so dearly. Bruce Lee mean so much to me I cherish and treasure the Martial arts now and forever because of him. Thank you for making this video.
very very well said grand master ,you're obviously intelligent!
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As an martial artist and former Marine, Bruce Lee is the faster of any man in the Martial arts. Chuck Norris is also a phenomenal man in his own right. I have traveled to many events and learned so much to help me become a better person and fighter for fitness and skills. I am so glad someone here put it right. A demonstration is just that. Be at peace and peace be with you.
Bravo, Sifu.....most all that criticize Bruce for not being a "real" martial artist, never took, the time to examine his life or listen to some of his students who are still alive. James DeMile, who is an original Seattle student and who had a falling out with him, speaks candidly of what a bad-ass he was and how fast and powerful also. He was sent to live in the US to claim his birthright as he was born in San Francisco, mainly because he was a gang-bangin' thug who was about to be arrested for beating up a police chief's (captain ?) son. Was Bruce super-human, certainly not. A perfect person, he was flawed just like the rest of us. But.... ever once in a great while, a Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan or Muhammad Al just to name a few, shows up and leaves a mark that no-one else ever has or will....
Very nice comment Sonny, and thank you
well said
FLORES BOYZZ so you saying Ali was more athletic than Bruce Lee? Bruce one cha cha competition boxing team, hand ball champ. Ps he studied martial arts like Jordan did hoop but more. Bruce added 4 extra hours to his day. He live off a 28 hour day. Also created equipment the use threat muscle spasms. Also on record for 1st protein shake.
FLORES BOYZZ a sport guy Bruce trained to kill you. Plus all you have to do is research and see how he trained everyone boxed Kung fu and karate. Plus do the eye check Bruce has muscles on places most don't have places. Bruce did 2 finger push ups and you think he's not athletic. Ali is my guy but boxing is limited and a lot of it is fake.
FLORES BOYZZ then you pick out one statement out of a list. Let me guess you're white?
I have seen a few long time martial artists talk about fighting and beating Bruce. They never mentioned it when he was alive for obvious reasons. But many have waited about 40 years or more before spouting off about their superior prowess that they could of beaten Bruce. And they waited all this time to say what they are saying, not just because Bruce is deceased. But because they are now so old that should a challenge come their way they can claim that it would not be fair because they are of such an advanced age.
In fact, that is why I'm sure no challenges have come their way from students of Bruce's style or from just martial artists that idolized him. So it's an impossible task to put to rest all this speculation about beating Bruce in a fight. By those who suffer from jealousy of Bruce's accomplishments and fame.
My guess is that 50 years or more from now, when we are all dead. There will be more of these, "I could of beaten Bruce Lee" claims from people born a hundred years after his death. What they need to do is follow Bruce's lead and make history on their own name and stop trying to become famous using his.
@Hardrock.
After Bruce passed, James DeMile was in print interviews basically saying if you could beat Bruce, I should be no problem. (He's said this in his later videos, too.)
Once, he said that Joe Lewis didn't see much in trapping: 'I'll be glad to show Joe.'
IMO it was JD's challenges that shut up the I can beat Bruce crowd, or had a big influence.
He didn't mention names but said a lot of the tournament champs never had a real fight.
@@jakemay637 We don't know who had a real fight, Bruce included. We do, however, know that Bill Wallace, Joe Lewis and Benny Urquidez had full contact fights where people can get hurt. Spare me the usual fanboy "Tournaments have rules " BS.
Assalawalakum, peace be upon all. I'm Sensi, Siddique. I'm from Brooklyn ny. I always appreciated Bruce Lee, his movies,trainings etc. unfortunately he passed away when I was a child. but looking back and having my father introduced Bruce Lee's life to me was a very inspiring thing and I am very thankful because it opened my eyes to martial arts. I think people should just show the respect that's due and live their life. live and let live, done!!!
Your point is taken well sir. Thank you for responding.
To me Bruce Lee was more than an actor and a Marcial artist he was a teacher of life principles and the hability of any person to truly express themselves completely without restrains or reservations...
I admire your effort to get this statement out there! I completely agree
Very well said sir. Bruce Lee was and is the Best. None can compare. He is loved and adored from America to Asia to Africa and more...all over the world. Too good to be true!!! The Best Ever. I love him sooooooooo much......we love him very much🥰🤗🤩😘. Even Heaven was missing him hence his early exit.
They are just jealous. Bruce Leeeeeeee is the strongest and fastest marshal artist to date. We miss him so much. 🥰
Bruce Lee's spirit lives today in the hearts and minds of most martial art fighters and practitioners in almost every martial art disipline and including boxing and physical training to this day. Even after 48 years after his untimely death...I definitely know Bruce Lee was and still is the greatest and fastest martial artists to ever live!!!
How do you definitely know that ?
@@stevo62ful To answer that question fairly you'd have to ask the millions of people who were and are still inspired by him.
@@nick9463 He just a hater don't worry I see him almost every Bruce Lee websites and on CZcams as well as he keep saying the same things years to years he will never grow up has a kids brains inside his head his just a trolls keyboard warriors got no shame for himself a low life loser he probably doesn't know what's the word shame means for him do keep on hating just too jealous.
@@kit266022I totally agree 👍
Thank you for your words of wisdom. Bruce Lee was one of the greatest Martial artists and has left us with so much to learn from. Jim Kelly spoke about his greatness of fighting. Not mentioning any names ,showing respect for the ones that Bruce beat in sparring to which he said many. Plus why would such great fighters like Joe Lewis, Chiuch Norris, study with him for long periods of time if they didn’t see the greatness in this man. Joe Lewis said his fighing improved because of what he learned from him. He didn’t need to prove anything to anyone, he had the goods and lived it. Also you’re right so many claim to be black belts and speak with such evil mouths using profanity, shows they do not know the true essence of martial arts.
He was the greatest, the man could do things that no other man could do. Just look at his finger tip push ups, thumb push ups. He was and is a god to me!
My most treasured gift from Bruce Lee was his insight to life and teaching that martial arts is a vehicle for growing to be the best person you can be.
That we are all the same family under the heavens, we just look different.
No tournament champion ever taught me that.
I totally agree I seen one of his beds stating that they only show Bruce Lee throwing the last punch when he was not expecting it and that's what he keeps showing but when I've seen the actual footage Bruce Lee had thrown at me if I remember correctly it was three or four punches you can tell because you can see the difference between how everything was looking when he was throwing each punch and he blocked none of them he couldn't stop Bruce Lee's punches at all the only time he grabbed Bruce Lee hand is when Bruce Lee extended it to him for a handshake
is there a video with three or more attempts?
@@fongponto There is no definite footage of the full demonstration that can ascertain whether Bruce or Vic won as far as I can tell. What throwing punches at someone trying to block them proves, I'm not sure. However there is a clear view of Bruce throwing a punch to Vic's head, when he was supposed to aim at his chest.
The director of Enter the dragon, said when he was with Bruce Lee in Hong Kong martial arts masters will come up and challenge Bruce constantly. And he said most of the time Bruce would walk away,, when he couldn’t he will fight these people and he said these were brutal street fights. And he said no one came close to being any kind of competition for brows, he would just take these people apart so easily. Another thing people didn’t know about Bruce Lee, is that he trained it all ranges of fighting, standing grappling, wrestling and even submissions. What he was doing was creating his own style of MMA. It will never be another Bruce Lee. And I never even heard of this guy who supposedly beat him.
Bruce Lee never had a sanction match on paper amateur or professional. How can you say someone is the BEST if they have NEVER PROVEN IT AND DOCUMENTED IT. ITS CALLED HEARSAY. NO TALK JUST PROVIDE PROOF OF FULL CONTACT COMBAT.
@Erickb Rakim But hearsay is also a weak argument. Did it ever occur to you Bruce's close associates are telling the truth, no one to this day has brought any evidence they were fabricating things. Example, Jesse Glover was there when Bruce knocked out Youchi Nakachi in seconds, when he was challenged by Youchi, a black belt in karate, judo, and Jujitsu. Abdul-Jabbar, Ted Wong, Herb Jackson witness Bruce was superior over Norris and Joe Lewis. You can go DIRECTLY TO Abdul-Jabbar or John Little and challenge their testimony. PROVE THEY'RE LIARS. Proof, proof.
i watched the Video of the 1967 Long Beach , Vic Moore purely caught Bruce's hand on the way back , Bruce was in and out fast very fast ,
Джо Льюис победил Виктора Мура, и Мур сказал, что мог победить Брюса Ли. Но Джо Льюис, который избил его, сказал, что он даже не мог коснуться Брюса Ли, и что, как только он брал уроки у Брюса Ли, никто не мог победить его. Следовательно, это еще одно доказательство того, что Брюс Ли был величайшим мастером боевых искусств своего времени.
Thank you for adding that truth.If Bruce Lee was just an actor how could world championship martial artist claim to have learned from him, and claimed to have improved by him.
There's so many MMA guys that think they can be Bruce Lee that he was just an actor look how they move in the ring look how Bruce Lee moved on camera in the ring they moved on camera look at MMA fighters in movies how slow and clumsy they look how heavy their limbs look when they're trying to kick and punch there is no comparison Bruce Lee was the man and they need to get over it
Let me also set the record straight about Bruce Lee. The key to life and everything else you do in life is to honestly express yourself. That is as real as it gets. I learned that from Bruce Lee.
He is a god to me...im an mma fighter and i still used some of his move in the cage....and thanks to god i haven't lose till now..
Bruce wasn't God but he is with God now
@@Hanmablood i know he isn't a God but for me , i mean for only me he is a God 🥰
Yay, I thank you for speaking my mind. I was really annoyed when some people for whatever reasons discredited a true great martial artist like Bruce. It's so foolish.
I lived in downtown Long Beach and a lot of Old Heads including my uncle were there during that Demonstration back then and they all the same story that Vic Moore never blocked that punch ! And these guys didn't even know each other!
No surprise.
You were wrong and so was this guy , there is footage showing him blocking the punch.
@@SanDiegosGreatest Yeah , where ? To many people saw the same thing ! Where did he Block the Punch ? And why wait over 50 years to say this !
Jerry Jordan czcams.com/video/k1vH9shUyvw/video.html
@@SanDiegosGreatest There are Recording's of a clearer view of this Demonstration ! And even with this Recording's View, Vic Moore was late when Bruce Lee through that punch ! Like I said before , I'm in Long Beach CA At the Downtown Library two Blocks away from where that Tournament was because they still have the Ed Parker's International's every year ! I let the Old Heads listen to this and they were there at Demonstration 1967 in Long Beach and they said Vic Moore did not Block that Punch and All those guys Did not No each other ! And there Age Ranged of Late 60's early 80's ! There are lot of Narcissist going Around saying they could Beat Bruce Lee or whoever else letting there Egos get the Best of them but in Reality all there doing is Lying to Themselves and Everyone else ! Vic Moore Knows he Didn't Block that Punch and I believe he is sitting at Home Laughing because he Knows he Didn't Block that Punch ! LOL
What those people who are down playing Bruce Lee status as a martial artist are only demostrating their jealousy toward his accomplishments as a martial artist as well as an actor director and producer,not yo mention that he also had a máster degree un modern philosofy and did reach a level of perfection in the world of Marcial art that no other human being on this planet has ever reached and I strongly believe that no one ever will...
I watched that clip several times and I absolutely did NOT notice Vic blocking Bruce's punches at all. I think Vic hyped up lies about him blocking Bruce, claiming he blocked him 3 times when no one else could?... nonsense.
You explained everything thing about MR. LEE exactly correctly. .
RIP PEACE BRUCE LEE YOU ARE STILL REMEMBERED AS A GREAT PERSON. ..
Talk to those who knew him personally and saw his ability. They all know he was the best fighter of his day. He was a perfectionist. Its easy to slander someone who is not here to prove it.
I agree Steve..
Yes.. such a shame.. its easy to trash talk someone who can no longer fight back.. see it so much.. all those internet warriors.. experts of nothing..🙄
Pity he didn't prove it when he was here, then we wouldn't need to speculate on how good he was.
Sure took long enough for you to come up with your slanderous comment.
These guys trained with him for 1 reason. HE HAD SKILLS THEY WANTED TO CAPTURE OR LEARN TOO. Simple
VERY WELL SAID GRANDMASTER STROUD (BROTHER TEACHER)! IT IS TRUE THAT MARTIAL ARTS WOULD NOT BE AS POPULAR AS IT IS WITHOUT BRUCE LEE! HE OVERCAME HUGE OBSTACLES AND ACCOMPLISHED A LOT!
What people dont know or forgot is that Bruce lee had mastered different disciplines in eastern and western fighting not just gung fu, and wing chun. He was and will be a real bad ass martial artist.
Bruce Lee was amazing, I love watching his movies and that type of movies I usually don’t like..
Bruce Lee was the seed of it all . I first discovered his genius back when nobody knew who was Bruce Lee. This was in the early 60's when he played Kato In the Green Hornet t.v. series i was alittle kid Karate was the martial art everyone knew Kung Fu on the other hand was unknown at the time later because of Bruce Lee it became known.He became legendary because of all the combination of martial arts he incorporated and out came his creation Jeet Kung Do just like Tejano music is a combination of different music mexican ,mariachi,boleros rancheras cumbias,and hip hop ,blues, and out comes texmex like in Selena the legend and others like the Sunglows, Sunny Ozuna, and little Joe and all the others before our music is the Jeet Kung Do we can play anything and Bruce could fight and demonstrate any martial art.
Thank you grandmaster, I have been saying the same things, you said it completely and perfectly. I will seek to imitate your wisdom and humility, and continue to improve my skills as long as I live. Like you, sifu Lee was my first teacher via video, and my greatest inspiration in martial arts. It angers me when people disrespect him, but I will seek to imitate your disposition in correcting them. God bless you grandmaster
Thank you very much
Well said, Respect....
Master Reginald, you are truly a man of wisdom and have understood the true teachings, discipline and philosophical mastery of what martial arts in its true honorable meaning represents ... I have listened to countless Masters regarding Bruce Lee and his legacy but no one speaks so elegantly and eloquently as you. I don’t need to reiterate any of your logical, intellectual, philosophical and spiritual points made here that you have made with such nobility and honor in this video. Congratulations. You’ve done more than spoken for those who have understood the dynamic brilliance and mastery of Bruce Lee, but much more then this, you have superseded into the wisdom and heart of martial arts on every level. Heartfelt Thank you! You have spoke for millions of us on the subject of Bruce Lee, martial arts, honorable teachings and true meaning of what it all means to have studied from all the masters that Bruce Lee opened the doors in the Western world and Far East alike! - Peace, honor, love and strength,... - Grasshopper
Bruce Lee just an actor? I was 3yrs old when he died and I have seen almost everything on him and there is no one and I mean no one who can convince me there was anyone better in martial arts than the DRAGON BRUCE LEE! You want to talk about martial artist made famous by way of Hollywood look at Jean Claude Van Damme! Bruce Lee was famous for his martial arts skill before the Hollywood movies scene!!!
Bruce Lee was born November 27th 1940. Here is his filmography:
1941 Golden Gate Girl
1946 The Birth of Mankind
1948 Wealth is Like a Deam
1949 Sai See in the Dream
1950 The Kid
1951 Infancy
1953 A Myriad Homes
1953 Blame it on Father
1953 The Guiding Light
1953 A Mother's Tears
1953 In the Face of Demolition
1955 An Orphan's Tragedy
1955 Orphan's Song
1955 Love
1955 Love Part 2
1955 We Owe It to Our Children
1956 The Wise Guys Who Fool Around
1956 Too Late For Divorce
1957 The Thunderstorm
1960 The Orphan
1968 The Wrecking Crew
1969 Marlowe
1970 A Walk in the Spring Rain
1971 The Big Boss
1972 Fist of Fury
1972 The Way Of The Dragon
1973 Fist Of Unicorn
Love your truth and perspective on the matter Reginald! Don't forget brother, there's a lot more film footage (right here on CZcams) proving Bruce's ability than we have of Gene Lebell or Chuck Norris combined. Not to mention like 99% of the top UFC champions talk highly about Bruce, but I have yet to hear them talk about Norris, Seagal, Van Damm or Lebell.
joe lewis has flip flopped on his statements on lee. there is an interview on youtube where he says that he doesn't care what anybody says, bruce lee was the greatest. 1 person who i admire as a martial artist & credible person is jim kelly. he has never wavered on how incredible lee was. he said no one could kick his ass. john saxon was asked if it was true that lee fought some of the extras on enter the dragon. he said "yes & i wonder y it was even necessary". apparently he's a pacifist who doesn't enjoy seeing people fight. thanx 4 sharing.
@Sum Ting Wong show me where he's talking only about Lee as a teacher. And show me where he said Lee was not a fighter. And how am I trying to fool anyone?
You know Jackie Chan was in Enter the Dragon so why don't people ask him about what he saw and how good was Bruce?
@@lonknight3197 He actually said in a few interviews that Bruce was so fast that you better pay attention lest you get an unexpected hit..
Might not be the exact qoute.. but yes Jacky has said Bruce Lee was super fast..
Bruce Lee the Legend lives on in the minds of many. Nearly 50 years on HE STILL IS A LEGEND.
Bruce Lee had many methods... he can throw garbage to test the other person of their reaction time... that creates an opening for a follow-up... Bruce Lee never loses!
Nobody thinks Vic beat Bruce lee. I seriously doubt Vic moore would even suggest anything like this when Lee died, as Bruce Lee would hunt him down probably.
Vic Moore is obviously jealous of Bruce lees success. Angry that bruce lee put karate down, and tournaments down, so its not like Vic hasn't got a motive.
But Vic like them all tip toed around Bruce lee. And nobody thinks Vic Moore would beat Bruce lee. Jim Kelly would know and he said nobody could beat Bruce lee back then. He has the greatest testimonials of all times, which is akin to a smoking gun as far as most people are concerned.
But when you are the best like Lee obviously was, people will want to bring you down, especially if they are jealous, especially now Lee is no longer here to defend himself. But posthumous cheapshots don't impress anyone.
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if Vic HAD beaten Bruce the news would've spread like wild fire. Bruce was immensely respected in the martial arts community at the time period and renoun martial artists line Ed Parker have attested to this
Lol at your fairy tales . Vic didn’t tip toe around Bruce, nobody did. Nobody cared . They were busy fighting REAL tournaments.
Bruce could do 1500 push ups and 450 one handed pushups and 150 with one handed 2 finger pushups even body builders admired how Bruce got his body and they said it was very hard to do
BULLSHIT! Stop blowing up the facts. This kind of shit right here is why there is so much ignorant "Urban Legend" about the man.
There is no one better than Bruce Lee, and there will never be another Bruce Lee. Learn from what he was teaching, whether it be his Martial Art, or his Pylosaphy. He left something beautiful for everyone to be a better, and more human. Be Water 💦
Bruce Lee was involved in street fights through·out his infancy and youth, he was the real deal, even the triads respected him. Nobody can be as good as he was in martial arts.
I just subscribe to your channel last year and I'm going back through some of your videos you are a very intelligent and honorable grandmaster and I love your comments on Bruce Lee because it takes a very secure and humble person to acknowledge someone else's achievements thank you and keep up the good work
You can clearly see that man did not block Bruce even Jim Kelly who was on enter the dragon said no one could beat Bruce he also said Bruce was better than what you see in his films he also said Bruce beat all the top people in the world and Jim Kelly said alot of them didn't want it know they got beat he said you don't even known how good Bruce was .
Brother keep spreading fact! I'm a product of Sifu Lee from late 60's we were Rocking Burning (the art of fighting without fighting) with James Brown pre Hip Hop Roots ! I'm 60 and have trained many styles survived the streets of NYC! I've been blessed to follow his passion and continue to teach in semi retirement will probably die in a BJJ Gi Happily!
Thank you very much
Thank you so much Grand Master, I will go on record as standing corrected for my OWN profanity. I met Grand Master Victor Moore in Fayetteville NC and I was de-belted because I openly (but politely) debated with him at a Tournament. I still ADAMANTLY stand by my convictions that NONE of the strikes that Bruce Lee performed were in fact blocked but GM Victor Moore responded (after the fact) out of reflex alone. Be that as it may I was disciplined (for lack of a better word) by a so called Master who adores GM Victor Moore that cannot even defeat his OWN student (ME) in a FAIR match and this has been recorded in front of his own Master who I will not flame on this post. I find it sad that one's ability is sullied by others that DON'T measure up. I am 47 years old have studied various Disciplines since I was 14 and to lose my belt because of over-rated adoration finds me in disarray but I digress...
Thank you very much for sharing your experience. I am sorry that you had to experience losing your rank as result of someones ego. This should never happen in the martial arts with master instructors. We are all human and we all have short comings. There are some instructors that have never known humility, no matter how many championships they have won, or even how popular they are. It is sad yet true. I wish you all the very best in your career I believe what you said, because i have been in the company of these people, and they take arrogance to another level.Regardless of how they are, please continue to show respect to them and everyone else, hopefully they will change at some point in their lives. Much success.
Thank You so very much Grand Master for even taking the time to respond, It is an HONOR to even be acknowledged as well as the HUMILITY you display and I promise to show unto others the respect that you have shown me. Once again thanx for understanding.
@@bhudaahizm7874 it's sad when politics out way skill. The funny thing is they claim to have taken something that can't be taken.
I mean, did you suddenly forget all you forms and loose your prowess ?
Standing up for truth is something in which there can be no shame.
@@dalecarter923 thanks and no. Simply a belt not my experience lol
thank you so,much brother I respect vic moore as a martial artist but I knew he was full of crap saying he beat him you never beat him but I love bruce and much respect to you
@Kill Bill kennels. Bruce was one of my heroes also but was he the best kicker the best boxer the best grappler ?
Thank you for expressing so well the obvious truths that so many people try to demean. In a world where so many of our fellow people are like children who lash out at each other to feed their egos it is truly inspiring to hear you speak from a place of inner truth and respect. The reality i wish more people would embrace is that the way you judge and treat others, and in fact in all that you label in what you judge, is ultimately a reflection of yourself. How does a person go about proving themselves to the likes of someone who discredits them. All you really can do is to try and be true to yourself and help show the person who is trying to discredit that the malice exists within themselves
Reginald Stroud strikes me as very credible. In the footage I saw, it didn't look like Victor Moore "blocked" Bruce Lee's punches. Rather, it seems they were both laughing at Moore's inability to see the punches, much less block them.
I agree with what you are saying, I watched part one also. Bruce Lee didn't always have a great physique as seen in some of his younger photos, he really developed over time, which is a result of some very hard training. His abdominal definition and wing-like lats tell me that he must be working hard, would be very strong for his size, and most likely have good endurance.
Charles Barkley often talks about certain guys having extreme confidence. Mohammad Ali would be at the top of that list, and Bruce Lee would be up there too. That is what separated him from other martial artists, he could walk into an auditorium filled with black belts, at 5'7, and tell them that his style was better, that takes serious balls! Most of us would fold under that pressure, he thrived on it. The other thing that seperated him was that he grew up in front of a camera as a child actor. He was comfortable being center stage with all the lights on, he was trained early on to perform in those situations.
He aimed himself towards the acting as a martial artist, probably because that is where the money was back then. There was no UFC back then, the only guys that made real money fighting were the best of the best in Boxing. I think he knew he could make the greatest impact through movies and make the most money at th same time. There also was no internet back then, if you wanted to reach a global audience you had to do it through movies.
Well said and well researched.
Simply put. Whether he is good or not is simple. When an individual is as dedicated and obsessed about martial arts. How can he not be good?
He is one in a million. Thank you brother!
I agree. I was skeptical myself when he said that. And you're right, when anyone speaks brazenly of a person after they've died, suggests that they're envious of the man. A great testimony for Bruce Lee. And God bless you, Grandmaster.
The only speed competition Victor Moore beat Bruce Lee in was the dash to the last plate of food.
Everyone needs to remember what the demonstration actually was: Moore wasn't told "I'm gonna surprise you; try to block whatever I throw at you" - He was basically told "OK, get ready, now try to block my straight punch", meaning he was in position, knew what was going to be thrown, and despite anyone's opinion on the distance and extension of the punches recorded in video, Moore's reactions were clearly not fast enough to come close to Lee's incoming punches.
And, btw, if you're in the "Bruce's punches wouldn't have even reached Victor" camp, that means the punches' origin was further away, so they actually would have given Victor a bit longer to react.
Grand Master Stroud, you have eloquently set the record straight, Thank you!
I don't think Vic Moore could not have blocked any of Bruce Lee's punches, his punches were recorded at 3 one hundreds of a second fast. And it was a demonstration and that's that. I completely agree with everything you have said. I have beer a loyal follower of Bruce since I was 13 yrs old. I am now shy of 50. Don't get me started on all of the brow beaters that say this and that about Bruce, they didn't know him and neither did I. I wish people would just leave him alone and just remember him in spirit and what he did for martial artists. Sorry I'll shut up now, 😞😇 Namaste and Peace 😇
Thank you Steve, you are sounding like me now. The thing that disturbed me the most, was not the speed demonstration, but the fact that Master Moore discredited Bruce Lee. He said in one of his videos that lee was just an actor, and not a martial artist. I can't wrap my brain around this arrogant notion at all. Bruce Lee, as you know, paved the way for all martial artist in America who have since received notoriety and success that they would have never seen had it not been for Bruce Lee. He tore down the wall of separation between the United State and China. Thanks again.m -brother teacher
Well said about Bruce Lee. His skills were far too deadly to unleash them on anyone in proper combat and he knew it. He did not want to put anyone in hospital.
Now, I've heard everything.
Your comment sounds like you are probably sitting at a keyboard IN a hospital. Mental hospital!
Thank you so much for your courage in providing this perspective. I watched Grand Master Vic's video and I was bothered and confused. Why did he wait to say these things? Why didn't he challenge Bruce Lee to a fight when he was alive? But, after watching this, I agree that we should all do our research first before saying something that might hurt others. I agree with how you describe Bruce Lee. He was a legend. My kids are 11 and 12 and love Bruce Lee.
Mr. Stroud I agree with everything you said.... you are a great example of how people should try to carry themselves. Don't listen to those haters that talk negative about Bruce Lee. Its embarrassing how these guys claim such things against Bruce Lee it just shows how narrow minded they are.
Victor Moore must have gotten hit on the head one too many times and is now making up stories. He clearly lies about his story with Bruce Lee.
Thank you for weighing in. I have a great respect for master Moore, but i simply never agreed with the statements he made about Bruce Lee only being an actor, and not a martial artist. I have been attacked a few times by people in support of master Moore, but the vast majority of my followers agree with me. Thank you again.
Vic Moore clearly said he beat him in a test of speed
And Vic Moore is clearly lying his ass off!
The film footage proves that Vic Moore is a disgraceful liar !
Vic Moore actually said they sparred out back and he beat Bruce Lee and Bruce had tears in his eyes. And the camera man promised Bruce he would never show the footage.
I laughed so hard when Moore said that.
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You can find it on his Viking Sumarai interview.
God bless you for your humility, wisdom and grace which are the true attributes of a Grandmaster.
Hi Brother Reginald Stroud,
Bruce Lee DID Fight that is why he had to come to America, he HURT Somebodies son connected to The Mayor or The Police . People said HE Fought Chinese Extra's that kept Challanging On The Set Of "Enter The Dragon" which PEOPLE SAW AND Told about it. One Chinese Extra Kept Running his mouth So Bruce Got Tired Of His Mouth So Bruce Said Come on and The Guy Jump Down Off The Wall. Bruce Lee told the Guy You hit me once THEN I HIT YOU Once. The guy hits Bruce and Bruce is Unfazed. Bruce Hits the Loud Mouth once and the guy thinks he's not hurt, SO he opens his mouth to smile and his mouth is fulled with Blood and his teeth Fall out. After that No Ons Challenged him again. That's How Fast He Was. For those thaty don't know what an Extra is It is a person with a Tiny Role or you see the you don't hear them in a Scene or Scenes. Something You may have forgotten about Brother Teacher Reginald Stroud and For those that Thought He is Just a Movie Star. God Bless You Brother Teacher Reginald Stroud.IF You Believe Vic Moore Beat Bruce Lee ,You probably Believe The Earth Is Flat.
Sincerely,
D. Neal Linville
+Neal Linville LMFAO....thats a very entertaining story.....so i take it the movie extra was a skilled martial artist? if so...what tournaments has he won?...btw most martial artists dont usually punch ppl in the mouth in a real fight...u didnt specify how he hit the extra so ill just pretend u 4got to say it was some other strike besides a punch lol
+Neal Linville Thank you Neal, for the positive feedback. Unfortunately we both know that the issue of Bruce Lee being a real fighter is not debatable, but there will always be those that didn't make it to the level that Lee did, who will continue to stand on the nonsense. I didn't forget you, i will submit some exercises for you soon. And lastly on the Bruce Lee point, A lot of these guys that have made these negative statements about Bruce Lee's legitimacy, were there when Lee was alive and didn't open their mouth to challenge him,because they knew that he would have put his foot in it. Now they wait until he is long gone to talk this nonsense. The whole world can't be wrong, because they celebrate him as the greatest martial artist of our time, not the greatest actor. -brother teacher
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+reginald stroud Master Stroud...please check out a video clip on CZcams called "Joe Lewis" About Bruce Lee's Skills...it is taken from a later interview with him. Most people do not know that Master Bruce and Master Joe had a bit of a falling out in 1972...which is why Chuck was chosen for the role as Colt in The Way Of The Dragon...Joe was the fighter who was originally chosen. Before Joe's death he had some very respectful and positive things to say about Master Bruce...he even included them in his book.
Y Hideit Thank you very much
+reginald stroud. Master Stroud....what I find interesting is that when you view any photos of Brucce next to any other fighters such as Mike Stone, Chuck Norris. ,or Joe Lewis. ..Bruce is Always in the middle of the Photo ! Always ! That in and of itself is an indication that Master Bruce was The Alpha ! I have never paid attention to any of the slight negative statements made by Norris about Bruce not being a real fighter because when he was alive all of these men paid homage to him. Master Joe was considered the best pure Karate practitioner and he was a heavyweight ! You heard what he said about Bruce and the power, strength and blinding speed Bruce possessed ! Even today two of the best all time MMA fighters hail Master Bruce as the reason for them getting into martial arts.....Anderson Silva..and Jon Jones !
Bruce wasn't unbeatable, but he was the greatest intelligent Martial Artists in history. Bruce is the king of martial arts as Elvis is the king of Rock'n Roll.
Elvis stole most his music form Africans.
Hi Reginald
Thank you for the video clip.
Excellent story about Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee inspired the World to Learn Martial Arts of any kind.
Bruce was the Best back in 1973 and still is the Best at this present time.
You have to remember there was no Utube, computers, to learn different martial arts at that time.There are not many martial Artist who can do this even NOW. Bruce went out to learn everything the hard way on his own and to think for himself WHAT WORKS.
Bruce Lee was the Best he can be AT THAT TIME. And is the BEST TODAY.
Bruce is Light years ahead of any Martial Artist Today.
Thank you.
+Dhiru Parmar ex exelent! I agree
I'm with you 💯 % well put 👏 👌 👍 I heard all the critics, critiques about I could've would've beaten Bruce 😆😆😆😆 he's gone, he's not here, and what he did, and how he transcended martial arts, his influence is everywhere, what a lot martial artists are doing is because of him. Could he beat everyone? Probably not, but in his day, he was undefeated. Imagine the levels he would've achieved if he was still here?
It's said that the more detractors you have the greater the man. And that say it all.
His strength he didn't take steroids his tips of his fingers true they couldn't whoop him on God. I love jetli
Grand Master Stroud, you are 110% correct. I have seen that taped advent and each time Bruce moves in hits and his hand is already by his side before Vic points his hand up and in front of him. Its very clear Bruce was faster, stealthier and right on point, not to the head as Vic said. all anyone has to do is view that video themselves (in slow mo because Bruce was so fast). I thank you as a Fan of beloved Bruce Lee. Thank You.
Thank you s y r e n a
Did I just watch a video on utube about Bruce Lee that is sincere, honest, attacks no one and makes sense instead of trying to discredit the man for his life’s work? I believe I did, indeed. Thank you, Grand Master.
Pure Truth in its Humble form
Thank you
Thank you for this. My respect to you, sir.
Agreed, Sir.
There is a reason why we, still to this day, are talking about Bruce Lee.
He was phenomenal and easily, at least 100 years ahead of his time...imho.
(Created his own diet using his blender, his own training equipment, congealed all he knew into his own style of the art, never stopped learning, etc.)
Thank you for your honest & intelligent approach to this subject.
HOO-YAH & God Bless
"Use that which works...discard that which doesn't...be water, my friend."
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Well said sir ...you should start some youth defending club for Bruce Lee sir. We love Bruce sir ❤️❤️❤️💖💖💖
If they talk trash and don’t believe how good his was, they should ask Dan Inosanto. He’s proof of how good Bruce was
This is a fantastic message. Spoken like a true Master & teacher.
+Mike Citizen Thank you Mike, i appreciate your kind words.-brother teacher
Sifu Stroud, thsnk you for so eloquently expressing the factual and documented martial arts reputation of Master Bruce Lee. I agree that anyone who has studied Master Lee for any length of time must arrive at thte same conclusion. I have the utmost respect for those like you, who can recognize genuine skill and accomplishment, whether it be in martial arts, acting, or any human endeavor.
Thanks for clearing up a lot of doubts among negative critics. Bruce Lee is the Ultimate Martial Artist. Period.
Mister Moore go see this testimony by Jim Kelly talks about "Bruce Lee's Sparring Ability" on CZcams czcams.com/video/2CYHzi7jDG8/video.html
now we know for sure Bruce Lee was more then an actor. He was an incredible martial artist.
Thank you sir for expressing this truth about Bruce Lee. I just had a disagreement this weekend at the barber shop on this very subject. Years ago when I lived in Las Vegas I had the opportunity to meet Bob Wall (Ohara) from Enter The Dragon. There was a East meets the West kickboxing event and at the after party I introduced myself to Mr. Wall and after speaking with him for a while, I ask him to please answer one question that I have honestly. "Was Bruce Lee really that good " ?? Bob Wall said he couldn't believe at 135 lbs how freakishly strong and fast Bruce Lee was.
+Champion Heart Thank you brother. I find it difficult to understand why people who make assertions that Bruce Lee was only an actor and not a fighter, didn't say it to his face when he was alive. If anyone ever really studied and followed Bruce Lee, would know without a doubt that his whole life was centered on martial arts. Those that disagree don't want to study because they have their own selfish agenda, but we both know the truth about it don't we sir?
Stay up...-brother teacher
+reginald stroud Will do Sir, I will subscribe to your channel.
Thank you sir
THANK YOU for telling the TRUTH!
It's a shame that jealous people will try to discredit, try to ruin the character and reputation, and try to tarnish who Bruce Lee was, what he did, and his legacy, how GREAT he TRULY was!
GOD BLESSED humanity and the world with the GREATEST martial artist of ALL TIME, Bruce Lee, and that's a LEGACY that's NEVER EVER going away.
The haters and liars can kick dirt. 😁
Bruce Lee was a icon in the martial Arts world which he created is own style he was so fast that high speed cameras couldn't catch up his speed
and by the way I love your comment, very well said
Hi GrandMaster Stroud, first i'd like to apologize, because i used some profane words in the first part of your video. I should not have, second, i want to say i agree with you 1000%. Our views on Bruce Lee are very similar, and i have the same thoughts on him as you have expressed. Thank you for your posts. Take care.
+jaybethatdude Than you my friend, and no offense taken. I understand that some times we can be very passionate about our stance or convictions. I have the greatest admiration for you because you did what seems to be very difficult for many, and that is to apologize. I thank you very much. -brother teacher
Thank you Sir, i have subscribed to your channel. Much respect.
jaybethatdude Thank you as well
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Thank you for the apology, it was no problem, but i appreciate you very much. Be blessed...
well said sir. i am bruce lee die hard fan, i was born 1974 1 year after bruce lee dead but until now i'm still watching bruce lee's movie he is a unique martial artist that you could imagine.
Greetings...
I saw that video frame by frame like a mall cop watching a shoplifter in Victoria Secret...and I really wanted to give Vic the benefit of the doubt.And thats because I know him personally and he's a likable guy. I could not. I tell you, its typical. Every martial artist can't do a good demo just like every tournament champion doesnt make a good instructor. Some blk belts can teach a class but can't do a seminar to save their lives. Bruce was an enigma wrapped in a riddle to these "champions". Bruce had charisma. He had an air...like there was something going on beneath the surface. Even while in repose, he had a secret and wouldn't tell you but the camera knew and blew it in your face when he let it go. You can't teach that. The camera either likes you or it doesn't. Bruce was articulate. He knew how to engage and entertain the crowd yet sneak up on you with this unexpected agility and body control from that equally articulate physique. Theres nothing worse than a martial artist who can't translate! His body doesn't agree with his mouth so his ego compensates with second string performance. He can move but where is the dignity and grace in the gesture ? He can't translate. Bruce made you believe each technique had its own attitude from his unique ability to commit instantly in the moment. He had no trouble committing because honesty came easy to him. He could put himself out there with ability that could not be veiled or faked. He owned what he did and he put in the time to perfect it. His body was a testament to the work ethic. And much of it was BASIC where many of these blk belts thought they perform the same way.And some could... until Bruce CHANGED GEARS like he did to Vic. Zero to sixty down the center. Then zero to sixty five or seventy with the same move. Thats hypnotic and disconcerting to realize a fast artist can DECIDE to move faster right in front of you without doing anything special. Vic saw it. The crowd saw it. His celebrity captured it. His memory preserves it.
shihanUKS Thank you so very much for understanding what i have always known concerning Bruce Lee. Your words were so articulate, and right to the point. Every now and then, there comes a man, regardless of his vocation, he excels beyond all others in his field. You just can't put words to it, but it is simply is what it is. We somehow are blessed with someone that shows us, just how far you can take your skill.-brother teacher
reginald stroud My thanks for such a prompt reply.
Salutes and Respects.