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Forty years ago, the invasion of Afghanistan by Soviet troops marked the start of 10 years of a dirty war, full of suffering and destruction in a particular international context.
Using exclusive archives from the Afghan guerrillas and the testimony of the former commander-in-chief of the Soviet expeditionary force, this film retraces ten years of world history through the prism of Afghanistan.
And brings to life the trauma of this conflict from the inside, as close as possible to those who experienced it. A dive into the heart of a tragedy that shaped the end of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the end of communism and the emergence of the t€rr0ri$t€ nebula that still threatens the planet. Through this story, this film is also a geopolitical vision of the world, from the Cold War to the international t€rr0ri$m€.
00:00Afghanistan the tomb USSR
04:00 The start of the Afghan civil war and the intervention of the USSR
20:10 Doubts arise about the necessity of this war
36:20 Gorbachev in power
46:25 The return from Afghanistan and the beginning of the fall of the USSR
Documentary: Afghanistan, the tomb of the USSR
A documentary by Nicolas Jallot
An Interscoop Production
#USSR #Afghanistan #Politics - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Soviet citizens in the 80s had the black tulip flights telling them about the losses on the battlefield, 2020s Russians don't even have that, their loved ones are mostly left to rot where they fell
Awww you got that from propaganda of course. You were also told and believe to this day that Russia lost 80% of their forces and Ukraine is winning since that is what you were told to believe. 😅
@@darkmatter5424 Stop making up nonsense that isn't being reported by any credible journalists.
@@darkmatter5424 And where do you think the corpses are at, it's not even feasible to retrieve that many bodies. Not propaganda just maths and logistics
@@darkmatter5424bot alert
one of the best documentary...ever build....n explained so nicely
Very interesting. Thank you.
This country has been through so much in the last 40 years... poor people.
When 10 years of Afghanistan cost less than 2 years in Ukraine
Because your not facing peasants with aks rather an well trained well supplied and well organazied army.
@@mithrandil420 And because much of the money is being laundered and diverted to other entities/individuals. War is a racket, corporations, CEOs, Elites/Oligarchs, and The Military Industrial Complex all benefit and get a slice of the meatgrinder pie. Massive corruption and profit over a proxy war that could have been avoided AND ended by now with a little diplomacy and respect. President Trump 2024!
very interesting thanks
Thanks for the information, for the documentary. Since Highschool days I long to know more about this part of history which the schools and schoolbooks won't teach a lot.
Respect malgré tout
deroute faut pas pousser; en 10 ans les russes perdent 14000 soldats; 2 fois moins que l armee francaise pendant la guerre d algerie ; infligeant d enormes pertes aux islamistes et quand les russes se retirent en 1989 les islamistes ont ete ecrases au cours de l operation magistral menee par les paras sovietiques autour de khost ou ils infligent de lourdes pertes aux barbus; le regime de kaboul semble solide; il ne s efffondrera que 5 ans apres parcequ elstine refuse de lui livrer l essence et les pieces detachees necessaires;l l urss s effondre parcequ elle est sabordee par gorbatchev et les apparatchiks du parti soucieux de devenir les oligarques du nouveau regime; cette guerre de frontiere; d ailleurs militairement gagnee n y est pour rien
look at all those mountains some jerk told me the earth was flat but mountains are bumpy lol
Muhahaha
Dan menjadi penyesalan bagi Inggris , Uni Soviet , bahkan bagi Amerika Serikat dan Sekutu-sekutunya.
In spite of billions of dollars the contrerevolutionary bands couldn’t win the war. The Afghan army, without the soviet presence, had vanquished the bandits from 1988 to April 1992. Simply it was impossible without the economic and military support of the Soviet Union to continue the war…
As an American this Sounds familiar
Mujahideen factions later on destroying 80% city of Kabul in 1996" . Truly, "Warriors of Islam".
Nice fan fiction. In reality, the mujahideen remained a sizable force after the Soviet withdrawal and by 1990 they controlled over 90% of the territory. So much for Soviet training.
@@juliankraus1011 The only part of Afghanistan bandits controlled were their bases in Pakistan…
@@juliankraus1011 sizable force that failed take city of Jalalabad from Afghan Army.Only in April 1992 , Kabul fall to the mujahideen because Shahnawaz Tanai failed coup attempt in March 1990 and August 1991 new Boris Yeltsin on arrival his power decide curtailed support economy/military aids to the Republic of Afghanistan.
Great documentary
Sacré personnage ce Massoud félicitations pour votre reportage
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That he was. His son is leading the resistance against the Taliban
Thank you.
You're welcome but I didn't do anything
@@constantinvaldor3742 Thank you anyway for welcoming him.
@@pseudoname3159 that's not welcoming someone. It's more accepting his thanks. Thank you 👍🏽
@@constantinvaldor3742 Good on you for accepting this man's thanks. No problem. ✌🏼
@@pseudoname3159 too late you made it a problem.
On n'apprend pas beaucoup par la victoire ou le succès, mais on apprend beaucoup par la défaite ou l'échec. Proverbe Japonais.
Visiblement la Russie n a rien appris.
@@patricehenry6715 1945 La🇫🇷collaborait avec Hitler qui Génocide les✡️ pendant que la🇷🇺était à Berlin pour nous libérer du nazisme. 2024 la🇫🇷en partenariat avec les nazis🇺🇦et juifs🇮🇱 qui génocident la🇵🇸🤦
Good documentary. The quality of some of the footage in this documentary is brilliant.
The Americans weren’t happy with the USSR supplying arms to the Viet Cong. So supported the Mujahideen. US press (The “Independent”) even branded Bin L4den an anti-Soviet Warrior.
30:54 “If the mujahideen aimed your weapons a bit better, nobody would see your film” 😂
Fascinating seeing how women looked/dressed in Afghanistan before the religious fundamentalists came to power.
It’s sad to see what has become of Afghanistan and the former republics of the USSR.
Inggris , Uni Soviet , dan Amerika bersama sekutunya , DIKALAHKAN oleh ALLĀH melalui TANGAN PARA MUJĀHIDĪN.
I agree with u about how messed up Afghanistan is now but regarding the former soviet countries? I think they're better off not being under soviet control. Especially regarding their freedom. Some of them may be ruled by tyrants, ie chechnya and Belarus but the majority seem 2 have fared better than under the communist regime.
@@Mongieboy I disagree. Citizens of Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, Azerbaijan, Abkhazia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kryghistan, Tajikistan and Russia all voted overwhelmingly in favour of the preservation of the USSR in 1991.
I tell you who got more freedom after the destruction of the USSR; a minority of rich people. Oligarchs were created overnight. They stole former public infrastructure from the people. Dissolution didn’t benefit the tens of millions of workers in each former republic.
A huge rise in inequality, unemployment, and even the emergence of child prostitution in post USSR isn’t “freedom”.
The world is no better off since the USSR disappeared. But I suppose it depends on which social class one’s opinion comes from/represents.
A United Nations’ report in 1998 said, “No region in the world has suffered such reversals in the 1990s as have the countries of the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.” People living in poverty increased by over 150 million, a figure greater than the total combined population of France, the UK, the Netherlands, and Scandinavia. The national income declined “drastically” in the face of “some of the most rampant inflation witnessed anywhere on the globe.”
@@Dave.93 bro living in a fantasy
@@Dave.93 post Soviet states full of corruption and crime. That things you call as freedom?"
So no difference from going into Ukraine then, keeping
the population in the dark .
So, no difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine. The Americans and Europeans wanted Russia to intervene militarily. What could be better for them? They wanted Russia to go to war so they could weaken the country economically, militarily, and politically. Why else would they subsidize Ukraine with billions and BILLION$??
when the proxy war is in the middle east, africa, or south america, the hashtags stay away...when white europeans are getting killed its suddenly a battle for humanity
Bitter Lake by Adam Curtis is also a great documentary about the Afghan war
The insanity looking at this and Ukraine. Is it because of the dictator now compared to the premier then? With so many current losses when compared to afghan war, it’s just insanity and horror. Very interesting to hear about the heroin brought back
English please!
What song started around 29 minute mark. I like the western/hispanic/techno feel of it. Haha
The title "graveyard of empires" is pretty fitting 4 Afghanistan. No matter what u think of the people or place u have 2 admit they are a hardy people. Very tough and resilient. Great documentary. 👍
Di era modern :
Inggris , Uni Soviet , dan Amerika bersama sekutunya , DIKALAHKAN oleh ALLĀH melalui TANGAN PARA MUJĀHIDĪN AFGHANISTAN.
Stop with that "graveyard of empires" joke, Persians & Macedonians invaded what is now Afghanistan without problem, same for Mongols and Soviet Army didn't lose a single battle outhere, its objectives were to secure cities and main roads then support Afghan army in charge to fight the mujahidin. It was a political failure but definitely not a military defeat. USSR under Stalin would have nailed it fast and clean. USSR didn't fall because of Afghanistan, and USA are still here despite their withdrawal
@@SebHansa it's not a literal thing man, Jesus! Relax. What is meant by it is the fact that however long a country invades 4 they will always inevitably skulk off without achieving their objectives, ie ruling, colonisation or whatever. U said it urself. The reason russia never lost a battle is because they didn't really have any. They had skirmishes at most. Once they received stinger missiles the Russians lost the air advantage. The yanks left, why? And what happened then? Not sure what books ur reading or documentaries ur watching. Not the same as me. Khoda hafez.
@@SebHansa Soviets didnt lose a single battle? LOL
@@SebHansa Siege of Khost went on for 7 years before Soviet troops broke through to relieve the garrison and bring supplies. When they left, the siege continued.
They also launched numerous offensives into the Panjshir Valley and never gained complete control of the area and these were multi-divisional SOVIET units involved.
6 offensives in just the first 2 years with pretty much all of them defeated.
Le cimetière des empires.
イギリス、ソ連、アメリカも負けている
Inggris , Uni Soviet , dan Amerika bersama sekutunya , DIKALAHKAN oleh ALLĀH melalui TANGAN PARA MUJĀHIDĪN AFGHANISTAN.
You're 100% correct 👍🙏🙂
Semoga banyak tokoh-tokoh dan penduduk dunia Timur maupun Barat yang mendapatkan hidayah Islam dan Sunnah.
Āmīn.
God has no religion.
@@danielbtwdان الدين هو الاسلام فقط ومادونه خزعبلات اخترعوها اليهود
Il y a l’excellent film culte de Kevin Reynolds de 1988 inspiré par ces événements :
La Bête de Guerre (Titre original The Beast)
Il n’a pas pris une ride malgré son âge grâce à son excellente réalisation et sa superbe bande son de Mark Isham. A voir absolument !
I have this movie, you are right it’s great.
If you could invent a time machine..... how far back would you go to warn people to just not bother going into Afghanistan?
I dont know, look at the location, its in a quite vital place
The Russian general mustve wrote the book on 'cope' and 'how best to invade a country but blame the US'! it is one of Putins favourite reads. a bedside must for him.
(31:05) "comrade capitalist." Sounds like cool name for a punk band.
Un peu de patience dans 2 ou 3 millions d'années lumière on finiras bien par faire la paix Bravo pour votre documentaire
les années lumières sont des distances pas une mesure du temps instruisez vous avant de dire n'importe quoi
1 Lichtjahr= 3,7 Milliarden Jahre😅
EUREKA💪
@@Nikou61 keskidi
@@burninhellfish Ni l'un ni l'autre toute seulles, c'est une description en temps (qu'il faut pour accomplir la distance) pour parcourir à la vitesse de la lumière ( 299 792,458 km/s )
Donc si je veux parcourir on va dire 18 millions de Km , le temps qu'il me faudra sera de 1 minute .
Il était plus simple de dire tout simplement ; dans 2 ou 3 millions d'années sans ajouter " lumière " qui en effet ne veut rien dire dans ce cas-ci
J'avais conçu un projet fou, ambitieux et réaliste à la fois : aller dans le Wakhan faire la 1ère ascension de la grande face N de l'Uparisina. Pour ça, il fallait être 4, en deux voitures pour le transport du matériel, pour nous autres jeunes alpinistes de haut niveau qui n'aurions jamais les moyens d'aller au Népal nous frotter à un 8000.
Le pays était magnifique, pauvre mais heureux, les gens merveilleux, c'est ce que m'avait dit à son retour la plus belle et la plus adorable de mes amies.
C'était en 1974 et le temps d'essayer de convaincre 3 copains tentés par l'aventure le projet s'écroulait : Les Russes avaient fomenté un coup d'état et le pays était devenu une prison.
C'est une équipe tchèque qui a fait l'Uparisina en 1979, avant la guerre.
C'est comme ça que j'avais appris beaucoup de choses sur l'Afghanistan, du temps que le pays était fréquentable.
C'était par le couloir du Wakhan que passait la Route de la Soie, qui venait de Chine et qui était empruntée depuis toujours par des caravanes.
Les Han n'avaient jamais pu contrôler la Bactriane (ancien nom de la région) pas plus que les Perses, Gengis Khan - qui était un sage - ne s'y était pas aventuré, les Anglais y avaient perdu toute une armée en ne contrôlant à grand peine que quelques postes sur la route du Khiber, et les Russes louchaient sur le pays, comme sur l'Ethiopie, depuis l'époque impériale, mais se bornaient à faire du commerce.
Les Afghans sont comme les Basques et la plupart des populations de montagne : ils sont libres et ceux qui tentèrent de les soumettre, au fil de l'Histoire, furent toujours vaincus.
C'est un caractère comme ça qui me plait, moi qui ai toujours été rebelle.
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Vous devinerez aisément que j'avais une immense estime pour Ahmad Massoud, et le Gal Gromov le dit clairement : Massoud était un ennemi loyal qui tenait sa parole, qui suscitait des ralliements chez les soldats soviétiques capturés, et qui libérait les autres parce que sa vallée n'avait pas les moyens de les nourrir et qu'il s'en était fait des amis.
Cet aspect de la guerre n'est pas abordé dans ce documentaire alors qu'il est fondamental tant il a miné le moral déjà chancelant des soldats soviétiques.
Le documentaire effleure à peine la gigantesque imbécillité des Américains, qui firent parvenir l'aide militaire à Ekmattiar et son parti hesbe islami, qui ne combattait pas, alors que Massoud n'eut absolument rien.
Après le départ des Russes, Ekmattiar utilisa l'armement américain pour combattre Massoud et le chasser de Kaboul, Benladen n'arriva qu'après, une fois les talibans au pouvoir.
Et Massoud l'indomptable replongea dans la Résistance, jusqu'à son assassinat à la veille du 11-septembre.
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Pour en savoir plus : Massoud l'Afghan par Christophe de Ponfilly. Ed Folio.
Salut et fraternité*
Et surtout pas le livre de BHL Massoud un ami de 30 ans alors il la vu 2 minutes 😅
Nice - Russian with French subtitles...great work!
Leonid Brezhnev,Chernenko,Andropov should have listened to Blind Mystic Baba Vanga in the 1950's not to involve in any war conflict outside Europe.
😮😮😮😮😮 wow
In That war time the nato and USA was calling afghani ppl ( striver ) , but when USA start war with Afghanistan changed call to terrorists
Who is this Neto guy you are talking?
@@vladkornienko7889 maybe that guy from morbius jered neto
@@buritomaster he is about to morb!
The main difference being that the americans weren't defeated military in Afghanistan. Also, you lack the capacity to understand what you read. They were referring to the taliban as terrorists, not the afghani people.
Allah doesnt exist
Pourquoi l’homme s’acharne t il à s’auto détruire? Félicitations pour votre documentaire
C est ds sa nature
It's very profitable for those that push it.
0:55 This is the habit of both America and Russia, neither will they live peacefully nor will they let anyone else live peacefully. This will never improve.
Havent people been trying to invade Afghanistan for 100's of years.my university hostory course was 40 yrs ago
We have our work cut out if we want to get along.
la plus grand déroute quand même pas.. disons que si a l'époque les afghan n'était pas soutenu et équipé comme le sont actuellement les ukros, les soviétiques les auraient roulé dessus...
whats in Afghanistan besides opium anyone would want?
Vietnam was the wests source of Opium. Coincidence?
Gold and some other rare metals.
@@Terrorkarel what about uranium and that stuff they make computer chips and circuit boards?
People planning attacks on USA at the time , the 00s
Your mom is there and she is desirable to atleast someone or you wouldn’t be born
3:10 Wrong, Ireland was the first country to recognise Soviet independence in 1919, the USSR & Irish Republic established diplomatic relations.
La république d'Irlande n'existait pas en 1919...
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irlande_(pays)
Point.
@@victorberlioz1094 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republic#Recognition
Imagine being this wrong
@@victorberlioz1094 Yes, it did exist in 1919 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republic Your thinking of the currently partitioned Republic of Ireland.
@@CosmicSatanas_ They even wrote a declaration of independence in 1919. Now who likes being wrong? Moron en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Declaration_of_Independence
Et la présence de la France en Corée, Indochine, Algérie, ... ça s'appelle comment ??? La réussite interstellaire
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Quel rapport avec la France ?
@@Zizi-festif Rien c'est encore un fan de Poutine qui utilise la fameuse tactique du "AH OUAIS ET LES AUTRES ALORS ILS ONT FAIT PIRE!"
Gen Boris Gromov ... Hero of the Soviet Union, hero of the Seige of Khost, commander of the 40th CAA. Brilliant Tactician and Superb Leader of his Men.
Sad day to see the Red Army of today...Giants of Yore.
15:30😂
Répression ? Plutôt des carnages
Zum Glück gibt es keine aktuelleren Niederlagen in Afghanistan, die man auch thematisieren könnte.
Mo... moment!
C'est vrai mais ils n'ont point envahi l'Ukraine ou du moins essayer!
Did you know that Germany 🇩🇪 armed and trained the royal Afghan army in the 20’s and 30’s ultimately helping Afghanistan go 3-0 with the British empire.
Idk how much it’s talked about in Germany but y’all sent troops into Afghanistan as well. Infact the invasion of Afghanistan has been the only time nato article five has been invoked.
Seeing videos of arabs before fundamentalist took over is wild.
Especially women. Very Sad for Afghan, Iranians, etc
Afghans are not Arabs, they belong to differing ethnic groups, Pashtun and the like.
@@medusagorgo5146 thanks. I knew there was multiple ethnicities.
I just always assumed Arabs bc middle Eastern
Kenya sitoki...Walahhi
It was Chernobyl that was the nail in the coffin for the Soviet union. The Afghanistan war didn’t help, but the Afghan war alone wouldn’t have been enough to break up the Soviet union.
the cover up of chernobyl anyhow, and the loss in afghanistan was for sure a defining factor.
Soviet already decline under Brezhnev in early 1970s
Angola was the final nail. Russian vetrans of Afghanistan said that nothing could have prepared them for what happened to them in southern Angola at the hands of the South Africans.
@@danielbtwd battle hardened boers is nothing ot fuck with bro.
Thats right
C est sûrement pas la plus grande déroute de l' histoire
Mais c’est celle qui a provoqué la fin de l’URSS...
les us y ont eu une grande déculottée
les occidentaux aussi ont eu des deroutes ton pays la France contre l'Allemagne, Vietnam..
C'est vrai pendant 20 ans L'Otan a essayé pour le même résultat la déroute.
For Uni Soviet, Actually, this war in Afganistan was the caused the fall of Soviet, by pray of Afganistan's people to the GOD, and by pressure of internasional policy... What an unfortunately
There is no such thing as "lawful war." Soviets invaded acting on their foreign policy. It may have been immoral, but not unlawful.
Khuy nha
The origins of 9/11/01 could be traced to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December 1979
Comparing the Deaths in Vietnam for the US (58,220) and the Deaths in Afghanistan for the Soviets (15,000).. A lot of media seem to portray the Soviet-Afghanistan War as directly similar to the Vietnam War. But, from what I’ve read about the war, the Soviet Union never had as many soldiers in Afghanistan as the United States did in Vietnam (at their respective peaks the Soviet Union had 115,000 soldiers while the United States had 549,500), the soldiers sent to fight in Afghanistan came primarily from the Soviet Union’s Central Asian republics, the Soviet Union suffered fewer casualties compared to the United States in Vietnam.
Another big difference is that the US was fighting against the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army. The VC were waging and insurgency in the south while the NVA mounted conventional operations. Because the US wanted to avoid appearing as an imperialist, it refrained from invading North Vietnam and similarly avoided crossing over into Laos and Cambodia where the Ho Chi Minh trail operated. The US was effectively fighting without being allowed to win as the NVA and VC could safely rearm and replenish their losses in North Vietnam or via the Ho Chi Minh trail. The US dropped tonnes of bombs on the north and on the trail without being able to knock out either.
@@killer3000adUSA had Allie’s like South Vietnam, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand and the Philippines. Other countries such as Canada, Great Britain and some NATO members also supported the USA, although not directly in the combat zone. This means that the USA had it easier and more allies and yet they lost the war
going off your own casualty figures proportionally didn't the soviets lose more in Afghanistan then? basically what you're saying is Vietnam was a bigger war in terms of boots on the ground and casualty count? ...ok, and? the US also didnt collapse as a result of vietnam, the soviets arguably did
Yes, the impoverished Central Asians were always vastly overrepresented in the Soviet Army.
@@user-pt4fl3xw8zUS lost the war? Right..
If theres any country that i can respect is Afghanistan. Fought off two superpowers and lived to tell. Id far rather be allies with great warriors then enemies.
You respect the warlords and the sale of opium to fund their wars? These warlords also played host to Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda. You may respect them now - but if and when they emigrate to your country and show no respect for your laws your women or your religion - will you still respect them?
@@alaintremaine3302 caving shitty borders ,helping prop up dictators(not in afg) and invading on false claims and still you expect them to stay in their country? dont create wars if you dont want refugees in Europe/north america
Actually 3 the British empire
Also Alexander the great didn't make it ..he was stopped in Afghanistan@@ZuluGamingSeries
Its prettt crazy. Those are some tough mofos.
Almost like as our nam was ending there nam was beginning 🤔hmmmmm
Me maybe being a little naive in not knowing hameeen or how ever it's pronounced was an affiliate of the US wow...... hade I known id definitely would of guess the sovs assassinated his poor ass
I'd be contemplating suicide after one deployment having to listen to that Russian shit they call music good Lord.
Et les cowboys d'outre-atlantique au Viêtnam et en Afghanistan ?
No se parece en nada a Ucrania. En ese tiempo no existían los drones con las capacidades y las cantidades que existen hoy. Era otra estrategia, otro tipo de guerra, otro ambiente geográfico otro tipo de población con capacidades diferentes. Los soviéticos se prepararon décadas para pelear contra la OTAN en Europa y uno de los lugares era justamente Ucrania
Yes, dif, just exponential now in regards to weapons and money spent. Modernization allows for more deaths, bu5 its more or less the same thing. Communist gov was kicked out of Afghanistan an$ the soviets invaded.
Proo Russian gov kicked out of Ukraine and the Russians invaded. Same exact thing, just slower mortality rate. All war sux.
L histoire se répète
The United States and Soviet Union lost in Afghanistan. I blame Andropov for getting the USSR into this war.
Brezhnev was warned in the 1950's by blind Seer and Mystic Baba Vanga not to involve the #USSR IN ANY WARS IN ASIA.
Boris gromov gerçek bir lider
At lest the Soviets retreated with dignity, they did not run away like USA cowards leaving all the equipment and weapons to Mujaheddins!
Joe Biden is a coward. Not the troops
Blame the president and top military leaders . Left our soldiers and Marines open for disaster. Cowards? When your told you can't fire your weapon? Our President is an idiot
The Soviets in fact did run away, very slowly and had to beg the US to stop the Mujahideen from attacking them. The US refused and said they had no control over them. The US on the other hand had an orderly withdrawal without asking the Russians to help. Only the civilian evacuation was a mess, thanks to no plan by either administration, either Biden nor his predecessor.
@@andrewdgw6779 Biden did exactly what he said he'd do, and the previous administration had negotiated to do. Would you prefer he'd reintroduced US ground troops?
@@scottkrater2131 the russians asked the americans to help as they were the number one (country) which helped the mujhadieen,its the same as how pakistan,qatar and other countries took an interest in the doha agreement if we are to compare it to the 1988 geneva accords.also the US continued its support to the mujahideen even after the soviets left in battle of jalalabad. plus i wouldnt call it an "orderly withdrawal" when the ANA and afghan republic collapsed in a few weeks, compared to the soviet backed one which lasted a few years
Le pacol n'est pas afghan, il est macédonien 👀
They made the same mistake with Ukraine…. Russia will NEVER be ready for that.
ok naziman
USSR & USA
this funny translator like forced drunkenness😁
Always the same fake history. Lets read Brzezinski's interview january 1998:
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would."
So Soviet Union came on the demand of the Afghan government!"It should be also noted that Afghan regime resisted till 1993, 2 years after the fall of soviet union (the indication of a wide popular support) but that they could not resist more due to the huge support by United States to djihadists? So it is not only Soviet Union which lost something but also the Afghan governement and his laws in favor of women rights. On the other hand Ben Laden's support retruned to USA on et 11/09. How intelligent was this policy.
Bis répétitae en 2024-25 ?
C'est vrai que les américains ont fait beaucoup mieux en Afghanistan...ou en Irak...ou en Syrie.
Ouai, ils ont fait payer la note a d autres. Ils sont plus balèze!
يبرزون صورة العميل مسعود ويأكدون انه ليس عميل لهم 😂 ، من يصدق الكافر !
Ils ont pris la raclée par des éleveurs de chevres. Les russes avait déclaré la querre.
🇺🇸🇺🇦❤🤍💙💛🌹🇮🇱🤍💙
What about the USA vs Afghanistan😁?!
As it was for the US locust empire...
Déroute? Ce n'est pas le mot!
Retraite dû au bourbier dans lequel ils s'étaient fourré.
Retraite en pavoisant comme des fanfarons😂
@@sergevandyck Oui pour le bourbier et l'erreur stratégique, mais le retrait était un peu plus élégant que la débandade des USA au Viet Nam. C'était cela l'objectif. De plus a long terme cette "retirada" fut profitable, laissant les USA prendre le relai pour se retrouver dans un bourbier bien supérieur, qui s'est achevé il y a peu, avec les conséquences (11 septembre) que l'on connait. Mais cette intervention compliquée par les USA qui ont financé les Talibans, a coûté cher, y compris financièrement, et n'est pas pour rien dans la chute de l'URSS.
Cela est une leçon; quant on s'engage dans un conflit, il faut envisager les perspectives à long terme (je pense à Macron et à ses déclarations guerrières)
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Pour la France est les états-unis la même chose,
Les américains ont jeté l' éponge en Afghanistan.
Ce fut aussi une déroute pour l´otan😂. Balayez d´abord devant vos portes
Pas mieux pour la France les américains en Afghanistan même pire
2 Times the Afghans had a Chance to adopt Civilsation - they do not want Civilisation or Western Civilisation because Sharia Law is ruling and now Poverty.
Must they ? What civilsation is to you might just be offensive to others!
@@gogonae7498 1. ) Islamic societies generally do not work - beside the Golf < Oil..
2. ) Example...: Imagine you have a ruptured appendix and have to be transported 150 kilometers on a donkey to the hospital - like in Afghanistan, then you will reconsider the post because of the horrible pain. 3.) And why do so many Muslims come from their countries, e.g. to EU..? Think about it. 4. ) A reform of Sharia Law is needed.
@@kindder90er3if we want to live in sharia let us live go live your life dont worry about us
funny how afghanistan was thriving and on the path towards progress in the 60s(tho lacking it was better than what came in the 80s)
you cant say shariat ruined afghanistan when it was first implemented in 1996.
@@MAKMAUG Yes this was inthe 60 ´ties > the Shah liberal good Man. But the Afghans had in late Spring 2021 the Chance to fight the 60000 Stoneage-Taliban-Motor-Bike-Gang with ANA 200k Soldiers > but they refused. And 6000 ISAF-Soldiers dieed...! For what..? So please they have NOW no right to come to the EU and seeking Asyluum and sreading here the Islam...! NO,we do not want this.! Ask the Polish and Hungary People..! First reform Sharia and fix that Countries.. like inTurkey or the Arab-Emirates OR please go >> there..... they have morre Money than the bankrupt EU...
Se les va a repetir la historia en Ucrania
As a child I always admired the Americans for their valor and honor but the older I got the more I realized that the U.S. is more often times the bad guy pretending to be the good guy and causing conflicts all over the globe.
The war wouldn’t have happened if Osama hadn’t flown 2 planes into the world trade centre. Do you know why Osama decided to do that? Me neither….
@@tl9223 legends say it was a false flag operation conducted by the sinister CIA.
USA, Russia, all of them cause problems everywhere because they are biggest and think they are untouchable.
The parallels regarding the Russian invasion of Ukraine are a virtual crystal ball about what is likely to happen.
3:04-3:09 I thought Imperial Germany was the first to recognize the Soviet Union in 1917 or 1918. After all, it was the Kaiser along with Generals Hindenburg and Ludendorf who ordered a special train for Lenin to foment his Bolshevik Revolution in Russia thus knocking that country out of WW1 so they could they concentrate their forces on the Western Front to defeat the British, French and Americans. When Bolsheviks took power, Lenin sent Adolf Ioffe to be the first Soviet ambassador to Berlin. Ioffe, I believe Ioffe was not only the first Soviet ambassador to Germany, but the first Soviet ambassador to any country. I could be wrong though.
The Soviet Union didn’t exist until 1922😂😂
@@alfonsosolorzano4747 Well Russia did have Communist Government in 1917 so that's close enough for Ioffe to being the Soviet Ambassador to a country.
When I speak with Afgani, they said Rusians been soldiers. They can fought. Even with knifes if necessary. Americans killing as with drones and radio. No respect for USA that all. It is completely different culture with completely different importance in life.
In the 1980s there were no drones invented yet, Neither USSR or USA had it, if Russia would had it they would be using it same way as US used in 2000s
@@Krahamusif soviet russia had drones back then, it would be 5x worse than anything the US did during OEF from 2001-2021.
It's funny that the mighty Russian Army was defeated by a bunch of poorly equipped villagers with small arms and RPG's!!
lol
same happened with the americans...but they just gave up and went home just like in vietnam right?!
@merlin6625 you cant be a real person
@@MAKMAUG ya and the gov the soviets left actually last long then before they even left.
During the war on terror, it took the Americans 20 years to move $2 trillion dollars from US tax bases to US defence corporations and to replace the taliban with the taliban, except this time they had M4 Carbines and Humvees !!!
So? The Soviets left their fair share of weapons and vehicles there. Including tanks. Humvee's are unsuitable for combat and are obsolete in the US. They're no better than Jeeps, just bigger.
Afghanistan isn't doing great right now, we did alot more damage than that
@@scottkrater2131 it was not only Americans that F up Afghanistan, NATO/western countries joined in in some ways than one.
@@francojustthat156 The only ones to F up in Afghanistan were Osama and the Taliban who thought we wouldn't come.
Larry go back to your minimum wage job and unfulfilling life bro 😂
0:11 baphomet symbol the inverted pentagram..
How nice of you to know better and share that with the rest of the world and the makers ofcourse.By the way:Afganistan was the point of no return for communism and Tjernobyl just a confimation of that fact.
RIP commandant Massoud.
le Vietnam et l’Algerie le tombeau de la France coloniale
l'Algérie , tombeau de la France coloniale 😂😂😂
Bouffon 😂😂
Toujours a fanfaronner 😂😂
C'est vrai pour le Vietnam.
Pour l'Algérie , c'est
de Gaulle qui a décidé d'y mettre fin malgré que l'ALN et le FLN aient été battus.
Il n'ont pû se reconstituer que parce que de Gaulle a décidé d'un cessé le feu unilatéral par l'armée française.
Pour recentrer les actions de la France sur son développement intérieur.
En effet, @@sergevandyck , l'Algérie ne dût son indépendance qu'au réalisme politique du général de Gaulle qui, prenant légitimement pour une vaste fumisterie le mythe de "l'intégration" auquel s'accrochaient désespérément les ultras de l'Algérie française, dont un certain Jean-Marie le Pen, ne voulait surtout pas que, selon sa propre expression, son village de Colombey-les-Deux-Eglises puisse devenir un jour Colombey-les-Deux-Mosquées. Mains, militairement, l'ALN avait été battue à plate couture par l'armée française avec la mise en œuvre du Plan Challes en 1959.
L’Algérie avait perdu militairement mais gagné en politique
On peut en douter, @@kevinjaonasy5669 , quand on voit où elle en est aujourd'hui au bout de bientôt 62 ans d'indépendance.... Finalement, la France s'en sortit mieux politiquement puisqu'elle se débarrassa d'un boulet aussi inutile que coûteux.
The soviets are like mindless drones 🤖
je ne serais vraiment pas étonné que se soit les américains à l'initiative de la "révolte" au tout début, après tout déstabiliser les pays en initiant des révoltes c'est leurs spécialités malgré tout
Ce documentaire à pour objectif provoquer...
D'informer ceux qui n'ont pas connu les faits.
Qu'en savez vous, @alexgervais2662 ? Âgé de 66 ans en juillet prochain, je suis un exact contemporain de cette guerre et je peux donc vous dire que cet excellent documentaire la relate avec exactitude.
@@missiavu je Vai Voi une quand les américains à bombarde Yougoslavie la France au Algérie usa au Vietnam usa en Irak le monde à trop d'injustice
Au final, les femmes y ont perdu tous leurs droits, triste résultat.
Poor boy conscripts. Insurgency/unconventional warfare is horrible.
Ah ? Parceque les américains en Afghanistan ont eu un réel succès ? Leur depart/débâcle en dit long
Does it? Did you think the US was going to stay forever? They never had any territorial ambitions.
@@scottkrater2131 they werent gonna stay forever.but in comparison to the soviets that left a regime that stood for a few years, compared to the US fed republic which folded in a few weeks
@@MAKMAUG So did the government of South Vietnam, so what? They were both short lived and overthrown.
the soviet departure wasnt as humiliating as the US one in vietnam or in 2021 Afghanistan(and they did it twice in practically the same situation)
@@MAKMAUG you're right, it was more humiliating. So much so they had to ask the US to stop the Mujahideen from attacking them. Neither US withdrawal was humiliating. North Vietnam gave the US what they wanted and the last troops left orderly in 1973. Only a handful of US troops were left in Afghanistan, they'd been withdrawn already. And remind me, where's the Soviet Union now?
N'oubliez pas de nous montrer les débâcles de la France en Algérie et des américains dans plusieurs pays.
Il y a de nombreuses vidéos pour celà.
Cherchez.
Il n'y a pas eu de débâcle en Algérie , instruisez-vous au lieu de répéter des inepties de propagande.
You mean like when the French left a total debacle in Vietnam for the Americans?
Ça existe déjà Mokhtar
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C'est curieux ces esprits mono-dimensionnels qui dès qu'on leur parle de faits qui dérangent leurs parti-pris, ici l'échec soviétique, montrent des dents et prennent ce rappel comme un parti-pris en faveur des "ennemis" de la politique, du camp, etc, envers qui ils fanatiquement s'identifient, en l'occurrence ici l'Occident via ses deux supposés représentants, la France et les Etats-Unis. Ceci dit, la France n'a pas perdu la guerre militaire en Algérie mais politiquement, idem les Etats-Unis au Vietnam. On voit que la connaissance de l'Histoire de ces esprits mono-dimensionnels est plus que succincte, lacunaire et plein de trous comme un haillon. S'ils connaissaient un peu l'Histoire, ce qui demande des efforts, du temps, de la patience ils cesseraient d'être mono-dimensionnel. Malheureusement ils sont incapables d'évoluer car évoluer demande la modestie et l'intelligence qui leur font généralement défaut.
Dans la continuité si la plus grande déroute de l'URSS est l'Afghanistan alors la plus grande de la russie est en Ukraine 😅 !
Vraiment mauvais dans la guerre moderne les russes 😮
It's all American equipment now, 😆