Lily’s Great Crime Explained: The Birth Of The Will Of D.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:09 The Paw Fruit
04:44 Lily's Crime
08:11 The Death Of Bartholomew Kuma
10:29 The True Role Of Vivi
14:55 Vivi And The Paw Fruit - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Vivi going from struggling to get her voice out to her people to being the voice to lead the people into the new dawn, I can totally see that happening.
Remember the sea cats who are sacred to Alabasta?
@@arthmael17dude... stop making me remember details from 900 episodes ago
D = Deliverer (savior)? This could get _really_ interesting on all fronts (manga, anime, fanfic alike), especially if our theories are both correct...!!
The Paw Paw fruit being linked to Alabasta and specifically to their queens is even more interesting when you consider ancient Egypt's strong relationship to cats, who were beloved and sometimes divine figures.
….and that Cats have paws.
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just like bears and dogs
holly shit, you are right
Well Alabasta is less so inspired by Egypt specifically, and more so inspired by the Middle East as a whole.
@keiviroque5666 I disagree I'd say is a balance between both.
Maybe Vivi will not commit the same mistake as Lily. I think Lily chose the wrong side 800 years ago because she wanted to prevent bloodshed, just like what Vivi tried to do in Arabasta if not for Luffy punching her and explaining that you need to fight for things to change. Like Oden who didn’t want any sacrifices, Lily committed the crime of peace like Vivi was going to do. It’s a good dichotomy between Vivi and Luffy since she taught him diplomacy and he thought her she needs to fight (im her own way ofc).
This is deep bro maybe joyboy mistake was also something like oden he gave up on fighting for the sake of lives but instead costed the world 800 years of suffering. Luffy won’t make the same mistake.
@walterholyfield3203 I hope you are both right. It would be a satisfying explanation for Joy boy's defeat and an awesome contrast for Luffy to overcome.
I love this explanation. The idea that they were unable to overcome their respective limits in the past, but that today protagonists will by cooperating is really positive.
My only problem with this theory is that luffy does not have the rubber fruit he has the mythical human human fruit model sun God Nika, which is not part of the original number system
@@HailingBarrage Let's go with the new fruit name Nika - the "Ni" is 2, Is "ka" a number?
If "ka is a number, then it would make Luffy the one with "2 - 9" and that would make the Gomu fruit would have to be consumed and used by another for this math to make sense.
I think the basic logic as listed out is sound. I think Oda decided to up the absurdity of Luffy's fruit by revealing it to actually be a Zoan Fruit and technically it's not a Nika fruit but a Hito Hito no mi: Mythical Zoan type Nika - this interferes with Choppers base version of the fruit per this chart. Beyond that much of the rest is pretty speculative.
Vivi only turned down the offer to travel due to her own responsbilities to her nation, she is essentially part of the crew as far as the rest are concerned. And perhaps she went on her own training arc during the 2 year time skip.
If Vivi’s diplomatic tour also includes the rest of the Strawhats then this would provide Nami with a perfect opportunity to chart the rest of the world to add to her map.
Yesss, and she is prtty close to vivi, it would be a good time too. And vivi needs an uber
@@marocat4749 She can teleport herself across the world, she does *not* need a uber.
@@Lazar-TSShe doesnt have the pawpaw fruit💀 That was Lili, atleast accroding to this vid
@@fum1emm According to the video theory, Vivi is going to inherit the Paw-Paw fruit... that's the whole point
I think nami's dream will most likely be achieved after eos one piece when the redline is destroyed and people can easily travel across the world. So she wouldn't really need vivi or the paw fruit
Lili using the Nikyu Nikyu to scatter Poneglyohs is a fantastic theory, well done
It is fantastic, but not original at all.
I could see it being how they raise Fishman Island (or it’s people) to the surface as well. We already know that we’ll see Luffy at Fishman Island again, don’t we?
Edit because I realized that bringing all of their forces to Fishman Island and then raising it right next to Mariejois would be a great way to start the final battle
@@gametheus1306 that's what the Noah Arc is for, and it's made to be carried by the Sea Kings
@@giovannitamba1723 Noah is roughly half the side of Fishman Island...surface area wise and 1 deck only, and Noah has several decks, it can easily carry hundreds of thousands of warriors, I mean I think it goes well over millions, that ark is HUGE
So are Sea Kings. The chains they would use to carry it are ven shown @@BringDHouseDown
bruh imagine getting hit by a tremendous indestructible ROCK 800y ago at some insane speed while simply existing in your island
Another thing I love about the number patterns on the Straw Hat DFs is that you can tell Oda was stretching a bit with why they're named the way they are and what powers they wield.
-Hana Hana would be a one for one flower/botany ability in most other interpretations, but that definition of "bloom" is just accepted to also include body parts.
-Nikyu Nikyu means paw but...has the power to teleport?? Straight up 2+2=🐟 right here and Oda just needs the power.
-last but not least Gomu Gomu is canonically not the definition of the power, and is an outright lie to hide the truth of the Sun God.
Not to mention he gets to still use Hito Hito in relation to Chopper, which considering Chopper and Brook were very early on designed crew members, it seems very likely this number pattern was always meant to be.
Sorry I don't quite follow what you mean here, could you explain further?
@@lemoniscate most of the devil fruits the Straw Hats have are named very particularly to match the number pattern (rubber, flower, paw), but don't necessarily define what the power of said fruits would be (sun god, human limb growth, teleportation), which to me signifies Oda prioritized making the pattern work as opposed to giving the powers the most accurate names
hana hana also, robins arc is about her literally blooming up too . in addition.
@@MaximumVolty thats actually a very good point, oda usually gives dfs very descriptive names
scary how dead ON YOU WERE ABOUT KUMA
Totally agree the paw paw fruit was used by Lily to spread the poneglyphs. Would make a lot of sense for Vivi to get it. I could also see Zunesha being Lily as out there as that may be
Makes sense as to why Zunesha has been awaiting Joyboy’s return for so long.
It's nice to see the Paw Paw fruit get so much attention and focus now. I'm going to sound hipster but it was always my favorite Devil Fruit in the series when I first saw it in Thriller Park. It helped that Kuma is my favorite warlord, alongside Boa, but the fruit facilitated some of the greatest moments in the series, notably Zorro taking in Luffy's pain, and the separation of the crew. So I find it poetic that this fruit is coming back into the series with Kuma and Eggland. If Vivi is the one to take it and join the crew, I'd be fine with that. Heck, if anything; I'd have to praise Oda in that the Paw Paw fruit for its limited presence, has had the most impact in facilitating some key plot elements within the series. But I could be overthinking this and if so, you are free to go after me and let me know.
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I agree. I always thought the paw paw fruit was like a reasonable fruit to have. Wasn’t anything too insane but had enough utility to make it unique and more powerful than it maybe came across at first glance.
If I had kumas fruit I would go to orgys and still their orgasms, then I would go around making I’ll the angry people I see cum after I give them a compliment slowly turning all the evil people into the opposite of masochists
As a Kuma fan, you probably know that the Bible that Kuma carries has a woman on it. It might actually be a depiction of Lily
Vivi could perhaps also extract the memory that Sabo has, of Imu sitting on the throne, and spread that memory to other leaders
True!
not only that. she could take the fear and doubt out of them literally. she could implant luffies courage into them. maybe even extract the "will fo D" and spread it across the world if its something tangable.
maybe the thriller bark scene is a pocket universe type situation, where extracting the pain out of luffy is the "Lillys uprising 800 years ago" whereas "nothing happened" would be the void that devoured it.
Wait...did you just say it can extract memories!? If so, will the person whose memories were extracted have amnesia? Then, wouldn't that fruit played a role on creating the void 800 years ago? Just a passing thought...
Interesting idea. It does remind me of one person that has the capability of doing it, Sanji's ought-to-be--bride Pudding. Memory overwriting and erasing , that sure tells you something. If she didn't have her awakening yet, then maybe it's the ability to project a memory from someone to the minds of the other people, by touching that person. Otherwise I don't know.
Yea she can just give them those emotions but then it woudlnt really be on on their free will, it would be on vivis will lmao@@rawrproductions5963
I like that theory. Technically it makes Alabasta foreshadow the late game. Vivi infiltrated Crocodile's organization like Lily supposedly infiltrated Imu's organization.
If Lily really had the paw paw fruit it makes sense that the Celestial Dragons claimed it after killing her (and apparently gave it to kid Kuma when he was their slave as shown in chapter 1074). Since Kuma is 47 now he was around 9 years old when the God Valley incident happend. That incident might be how he escaped his enslavement.
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You are right. it would mirror being a nole and that and get te strawhats hlp to ace that shady organisation, .... Good theory, and such obvious in hindsight i guess. So h might be the finalstrawhat after all.
You think they held that fruit for almost 1000 years only to give it to a slave?
I am sorry for the reply spam my phone did that in my pocket while i was listening to the video -
Especially cuz Vivi is rejoining the crew now around Egghead, she will learn about Kuma (and his fruit). Then when Sabo informs her and Luffy, im sure she will immediatly realise what she has to do, the crew helping to get that fruit and Bonney being happy her fathers legacy is in good paws, most likely joining the revolutionarys to learn more about his life.
The WAY bigger question rn is: Where tf is Karoo? D:
they turned him into buffalo wings 😭
lmao where tf is Karoo!? 😂😂 ikr, Karoo will be the one dashing from the other side of the lane handing over the Paw-Paw fruit to Vivi
Emergency food
Poor guy probably got the same emergency food treatment
@@x-train Emergency bait
Kuma's fruit is literally my favorite fruit in the entire series. I would love if it became such a huge part of the story. Great vid as always Morj
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@@poopdestroyer Yes
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@@user-wu7wu7pq9fyup, and if it wasn’t for the fact Kuma still had a bit of sentience left, they would’ve all died.
I have 3 theories on how Vivi can get her hands on the fruit.
1. Kuma dies and the seraphim Kuma teleports his body/fruit away.
2. Kuma dies but cyborg programming kicks in after death to teleport himself or fruit away.
3. Kuma has been dead since pre time skip and the fruit has been safeguarded by Vegapunk this whole time, Kuma's PX-0 body has been using the fruit via Green Blood. Not too sure about this one since he's been shown to bleed red but maybe they can be separate things since we haven't seen Seraphim bleed yet. It would be a cool reveal and would explain why VP keeps telling Bonney constantly that he can't save Kuma.
vp is also able to clone devil fruits like what he did with kaido's fruit that momo ate
My theory is more simple. Kuma memory has the memory of the past too since paw paw power may also eject memory out and absorb it just like how it works on pain. Kuma realise that the paw fruit owner need to carry on the will. Kuma agree with Vegapunk to subject for test on the basis that Vegapunk help to research or reproduce the secret in passing down the paw fruit to the "rightful owner". So that also meant that maybe Kuma had to die and bonney will see the backstory. And maybe that explain why when Vivi was now in danger, kuma program auto boot on to try to rush to her so can pass her the paw fruit.
Ouuu i like #3
@@kakaboo That type of cloning only applies to Zoan devil fruits, that's the reason for the existence of green blood.
personally i think that his fruit would reincarnate at egghead since thats where his soul is and since we know morgans probably wants to get the best story possible he might travel to egghead to witness it firsthand, vivi would probably go with the strawhats and she could find the paw paw fruit
These points are still amazing and the poneglyph one makes so much sense but I felt like Luffy’s Ni-Ka fruit satisfied the number scheme
Lily disguised the Ponaglyphs as sake and had them shipped out of Weavers Town. Weavers Town is likely where the straw hats were originally woven. Old Wano.... where the Ponaglyphs were originally carved. Binks Sake was way to keep the will of D alive and remember what Lily did that day.
That wouldn't look much like an accident. Also, poneglyphs are heavy as fuck.
@@artur-rdc Why does it need to be an accident. A blunder/mistake can be interpreted as something going against anothers orders.
To assume there wasn't a fruit capable of any of this is a limiting thought.
I like that theory a lot honestly.
@@kamm8068it could be imu is referring to an accident on their part. Like saying “ I messed up, and because of that she managed to do the thing”
@@braindavidgilbert3147 I like that. 👍 that is likely the case.
This theory seems on point after the most recent theory. One hole though the fruit only resurfaces some time after the previous owner dies (like Ace’s) and the location is unknown.
This was a great video. I really enjoyed how you pieced it all together with the significance of the paw paw fruit.
Haven't even watched it yet and I agree with everything you said.
Most free thinking morj channel member?
glazin glazin no mi headass
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Kuma dies, vivi gets the fruit and replace him. She dont become a straw hat member but an honorary member
The raid fails.
You are spot on, just look at Newest One Piece Anime opening where there was scene where VIVI pushing paw paw power .
it switches from vivi to bonney, that scene is bonney seeing kumas extracted memories on egghead
this is genuinely your best theory so far and i love it, i've wanted her to join since i've started and i cant wait!
East Blue is considered a prologue - chapter 100 is titled The Legend Has Begun. Essentially then, at the beginning of the legend has Vivi trying to stop a rebellion, and the end of the legend has Vivi beginning one.
Intro already got me convinced, awesome vid
This is an incredible theory. Hats off, Morj
To think that Oda has been creating one piece for 27 years and still he was able to include so many small details that connect the whole plot and characters together AND the audience is so invested to scavenger hunt successfully all those details, it's beyond mind blowing. This will definitely be a good night story for my kids.
Lilly had vander decken's Dv. She marked her friends with a D. then she threw the poneglyphs their way. The D. mark was a sign/wish for a new dawn. Vivi and the mugiwaras marked themselfs with "X"s because the "X" marks the tresure. And they wore each others bigest tresure.
I really want vivi back. That girl deservers to enjoy life with our nakama.❤❤❤
No that thing needs to die
Great theory, everything make sense! I really enjoyed how you pieced everything together with the nikyu nikyu no mi
I think the letter that Lili wrote and Cobra was reading while interrupted is the literal Will of D. It is literally the will of the person that spread the poneglyphs and it has bearing the flag of the dawn within it.
And maybe there is 2 Will of Ds. Will of Dawn from Lili and Will of Dreams from Joyboy.
It would be a bit weird though for the guy with the Will of D in his hands to be asking what the Will of D is.
@@nonsense8079might have been a rhetorical question
I love this theory it actually makes sense
This is defiantly one of the most interesting theories ive heard in a long time. good on you Morj.
i know it's been said a million times, but Oda is a god at this point. the rabbit hole has gotten so deep from where it began 25+ years ago, the Final Saga is gonna leave us all blown over.
It could also be possible for vivi to spread her message through memories with the paw paw fruit as we see with his experiments with vegapunk.
Traveling and display the truth of the world government with the fruit of her ancestor.
I think Lily was made immortal by the Ope Ope No Mi.
Imu was a king that swapped into Lily's body to be made immortal, and he then swapped Lily into Zunesha's body as punishment.
So the current Zunesha is Lily.
By the end of the series, Imu will not die, but will be swapped into Zunesha's body as his own punishment and Lily will return to her original body.
Nice, I like your idea
Saw similar theories to this on reddit but this one covers all 3 Imu Lily and Zunesha makes more sense
Nah, Cobra would've recognized imu immediately since lili looks exactly like vivi but he didn't
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Fair point
@@Lapislazuli_36 if Imu is a zoan then he could be masking himself from recognition by being in hybrid form.
I really liked this video . Keep it going my man
Ohh Man! Your theories, wow, I am amazingly surprised in each of your videos. I haven't found a single video where I haven't been convinced by you 100 % . You are really special dude. Kudos to your Observation Haki.
watching this video on chapter 1109, it makes sense lol
So many new One Piece theorists have been popping up lately, but Morj remains one of the best.
I agree, but I think that's because Morj's theories aren't as clickbait as others. Like, they can still be very out there (like the Luffy was born from an egg theory), but they're nowhere near an Ohara level of trying to make wild theories for big views
@@samt3412 Morj's videos are mainly story structure analysis essays that are meant to be EVERGREEN. You can still use them in 10 years to better understand the writing of One Piece. So when he makes a theory, it's based on solid fundamentals.
Content creators like Ohara can be entertaining of course, but there's are reason I don't have his videos saved in a folder.
Great idea mr. Morj!
Mannnn i always loved your theories bro 👍🏼👍🏼
I like that Vivi will gain the paw fruit, there's been too much build up for Kuma that we still don't fully understand. And her being a polilitical figure makes sense ofc but I gotta wonder how Momonosuke will play into all of this. He is the one that was supposed to bring the world to the Dawn, but currently Wano's borders are still closed...🤔
Was surprised it wasn't brought up in the video but another purpose the paw-paw fruit could serve if it was on the strawhat's ship, is to resolve the conflict of where the final battles will take place. It seems as though we need to go to Laugh Tale first and then to Mariejois but we are usually lead to assume these places are close to half a world apart from each other. One way this could resolve is the "holy land" (or at least it's most important figures) moved on Laugh Tale at the same time as everyone else trying dor the One Piece but that could get messy in a hurry since we'd be combining the set up fight with Blackbeard's crew in that. So there could instead be the final war for the one piece at the same time as the worl government enacting it's will over the world thanks to all the pirates being so laser focused on the one thing and then the Sunny gets sent to Mariejois as a way for the crew to rest up during the trip but also be heading at full speed and urgency.
I actually don't think they are THAT far apart. It's more a problem of navigation. But if you had an eternal post or a vivre card from someone in fishman island, time wouldn't be that big of an issue...
This is one of my favourite theory in a while. Great work!
When I first started watching the alabasta arc, I legit thought vivi was gonna be a straw hat, but at the end I was kind of disappointed she didn’t join, but I’m quite happy after watching this video
Something just occurred to me, Kuma's motivations have always been mysterious, even now when we know much, much more about him we don't know his history, why a king became revolutionary, became pirate, handed himself to the world government, allowed himself to be used for the pacifista project, why he saved the straw hats besides vague past allegiances, or how he would even know when to intervene and where to put them.
He's always seen with this bible clutched to his chest (while "alive" at least) And we've never seen a similar item anywhere else since, or anything alluding to what religion this bible belongs to.
What if it contains some hints of the void century, or prophetic messages hidden in its texts, that Kuma managed to decipher and allowing him to know where and when to act and what to do?
There's a mysterious female(?) figure on the cover surrounded by wings and clouds, in front of a sun acting as a halo. Could this bible be talking about the dawn and how it might come about?
Also another thing I just realized, the fruits held by the straw hat crew... all have something to do with the human condition. Luffy's nika fruit is well, a god, but a human god, Chopper's is obvious, he has a regular human fruit, Robin's allows her to sprout body parts and limbs out of any surface, physical parts of the human body, Brook's fruit allows him to control his soul, and move the soul's of others. Kuma's would appear to be the only odd one out, having weird bear paws on his hands that allow him to throw things very far... but we now also know it can "reject", "preserve" and "pass on" memories, thoughts, and feelings too, human memories. Among the Straw hat crew (provided Vivi does get hers) we would have humanity symbolically represented in body, mind, and soul through their fruits. As well as just humanity itself... and humanity transcended.
I dunno, maybe I'm grasping at straws.
Good point, I think it fits even better when you consider Chopper’s fruit as representative of not just humanity itself but rather the origins of humanity evolving from animals. So you’d have body, mind, and soul, as well as humanity’s primal origins and their divine potential, the lowest (not to be disrespectful) and highest points of humanity
Even if this is just speculating, I can’t help but feel with how accurate this seems that I’m just being unofficially spoiled somehow lmao
I have felt that with so many Morj videos. It's okay though. Even though most of his theories make a lot of sense, they often are not correct at the end of the day.
This is one of your best videos morj
there is another, even easier way to travel the seas, which is by using Auger's Warp fruit, but the paw fruit makes more sense because the warp fruit has never been seen to directly transport objects besides the equipment that people have on them.
You can just tell when he enjoys making a video. Appreciate you Ohara🤝
Bro this is Mr Morj😭
The is the raid will fail man
@@michaelmanzana210 its a gag from The Wano Report. The Ogs know 🤓
@@michaelmanzana210oof dude...just oof
I can see a better option than Vivi travel instantly across the One Piece world. ( in fact, wrap-wrap fruit may be an alternative options that Oda could give it to Vivi if he wanted her to travel quickly, without need to end Kuma Story. )
The other better option, is, what if the poneglyphs contains, not only the written history, but also, the memory of ancien people on void centry ?
Roger, Luffy & Law, already said that they can listen strong voices comes from poneglyphs.
Kuma DF can extact that memories, & the giant Brain in Egghead can transfer the memory around the world.
I still beleive that the giant brain should have some important role. & also, still beleive that the memories of void centries are located somewhere, because all Vegapunk invention are based on ancien technologies. so, an equivalent to the Egghead brain / memories system should existed in the past.
Kuma's story is over, you are all wanting to save a husk, which is understandable since he saved Luffy and the gang, but he's been dead for 2 years... his dream already fulfilled.
I loved the scattering of Ponyglyp part....but dont you think "the internet thing" which Vegapunk recently introduced would be an easier option to transmit a msg to the masses by Vivy...Revos or the Strawhats themselves
Brilliant video
Vivi getting the Paw-Paw Fruit will most likely result at the conclusion of the Egghead Island Arc… the most likely scenario that comes to mind is this: spoilers in this comment:
Lucci tries to kill/nearly kills Bonney: when Bonney was sensed that she was on the Egghead Island, Kuma reacted to that by trying to climb the Red Line to reach his daughter, so that she won’t be able to look into his memories. I mean, if Kuma sensed Bonney going into his memories, he would want her to not know why he did become a cyborg. When when he senses her getting attacked by Lucci, he climbs the Red Line successfully and then when he’s at the top of the Red Line, he uses the Paw Paw Fruit to get to Egghead… after a fight of Lucci and Kuma, Kuma sacrifices himself by blowing himself up to kill Lucci(ONCE AND FOR ALL.) That’s when Vivi manages to catch up with them on Egghead island through the flying ship she’s been riding on, and when she lands on Egghead island, she sees a Devil Fruit forming, and then she sees there’s so many Marines, and another Admiral shows up along with Pacifista units, so she eats it in order to help the straw hats, following in her ancestors footsteps. And THEN after 21 years of waiting: we welcome the 10th and final Straw Hat(technically the 6th, she went on official princessing duties in the meanwhile): VIVI!!!
If vivi gets the paw paw fruit i will be so damn happy. Great video
i really like this theory as it makes alot of sense, also no one dies as whitebeard said :
It’s not you teach… The man that Gol D. Roger was waiting for.. It’s not you Teach. Not a damn chance. Just as there are people out there who inherited Rogers will, soon enough, someone will carry on in Ace’s name as well. You may try to destroy their spirit, but you will never extinguish their flame. So it has been and so it shall continue to be from now till the very end of time. And one day in the future, when we’re all dead and gone. Someone will arise carrying generations upon generations of our history on his shoulders and he’ll throw down the gauntlet in front of the entire world. Seyngoku!! You and the government know what’s coming. A war that will embroil the seas far and wide. That’s why you’re so afraid. Though nothing you do will stop it. I’ve no interest in it my self, but someday that treasure will turn this world upside down. You know what I’m talking about… And I’m sure someone will find it. Whether you like it or not that day will come soon… THE ONE PIECE!!! THE ONE PIECE IS REAL!!!!
I mean, just how much effort you've put into this
And how much much effort have Oda put into this!!
It's not one piece, it's MASTERPIECE
Kuma doesnt have to die in order to pass down the DF. Nikyu-nikyu being a paramecia, Vegapunk can easily recreate the fruit. With Bonnie's extensive knowledge about the said DF, they can replicate the fruit and give it to Vivi maybe even w/o the synthetic green blood of Seraphims.
Everything lines up in Egghead.
with all intents and purposes Kuma has been hinted that he is already dead and what remains of him is a machine hosting his body, Kuma's dream was to help Sun God Nika bring about the new dawn, well he saved Luffy and friends back at Sabaody, and i believe that he gained intel that Luffy was the one who ate Sun God Nika's DF, hence why his final acts were to save Luffy at Sabaody and have VP order PX-0 to defend the sunny.
this means that Kuma's dream has been fulfilled... Ace and Whitebeard's dreams were fulfilled just before they died and i believe that ultimately Luffy will die fulfilling the will of D.
This all hinges on the reason why Kuma even went back to Mary Geoise in the first place, because if he went to do a sacrifice and explode there or something, the fruit would never reach Vivi in a plausible way. And if he went back there because of a programmed slave mentality, then it would make even less sense for him to die and the fruit reach Vivi. Time will tell, but I really hope one of my favorite fruits goes to one of my favorite characters.
Kuma was ordered there after his actions before and following marineford.
You cooking with this one morj !
I also though that Vivi could spread the Straw Hats across the world because Oda love to seperate the main characters into different group and for the final saga i think there will be many things happening all through out the world like the battle royal for the op (buggy probably gonna get it first and everybody else will have to catch him) and Usopp leading the grand fleet
Idk why i never considered ussopp commanding the grand fleet as a solid ending for him before, but u love it.
Finally his words won't be lies.
@@plaecholder I also think he's gonna start having big character growth in Elbaf and finally dies leading the grand fleet (maybe they were defeated or something but in the end he will be all alone on a deserted island like laughtale) just like in Dressrosa.
Yo this canon fr
Amazing idea! 💯
Theres also a theory that lili is buggy ancestor and she used to have his devil fruit with which she split up a big block into many poneglyphs since they only make sense together.
Recently I have been studying the Japanese language. I am 100% convinced that the number "pattern" is a coincidence. Not only are the translations not exact (eg. na is NOT seven), you also have to combine two different counting systems (eg. Wago & Kango styles). Additionally, it is literally a coincidence of the languange (eg. Gomu means rubber but go also happens to be 5 in kango style). I think Oda's supposed nervousness was not him trying to hide something, but him being surprised because he genuinley did not think of that. Oda is a master of foreshadowing but I highly doubt he thought of this when he introduced Luffy in chapter 1.
But it would be cool if he used this oppertunity to give vivi the paw paw fruit
And it wouldn't also make sense with the Hito Hito no Mi model Nika, and Yamato's Devil Fruit (which is certain to join in a later time)
@@odleoNot certain to join at all.
Also, using the same logic you could say that nine in Japanese is "ku", which would make the missing fruit the "Niku Niku no Mi", or "Meat Meat Fruit", and at that point we might as well write off Luffy entirely because he's never leaving his ship again.
It's a neat theory for character reasons, as outlined in the video, but basing it all on the numbers thing is a bit flimsy imo
Unfortunately, One Piece is chock full of number puns, such as how Luffy has been seen wearing a shirt with 56 (go-mu) on it, or how certain bounties have these puns (such as Kuma's one being 296 million berries). The problem is we don't know if it is coincidence or not.
I think if Oda will introduce another Straw Hat that completes the pun, it won't be with the Nikyu-Nikyu no mi. Are there other words out there which would complete the pun?
When I imagine it in my head canon, I see her sending out memory bubbles instead of going from island to island herself. Not sure how they’d know what it is but yea. Love this theory
I’m a minute and forty seconds into the video and all the pieces have already fallen into place. 10/10 vid
Whoa... kinda crazy to see someone using my theory for a video. Thanks Morj!
I really like the idea of Vivi being the diplomat and not a combatant because there’s just no way she can match up with the endgame fighters we’re about to face. As much as I love Randy Troy, whenever I hear him suggest that Vivi has a peacock slasher up her sleeve or something I cringe a little bit. I just can’t see her being in a serious fight anymore at this point in the series.
the 2-9 was fulfilled with luffy, being nika...
Wait it has? Yeah Nika - Nikyu
Will morj ever recover
@@onajgodwait really
Has it though? It would have to be a fruit that combines "ni" or "futatsu" with "kokonotsu" or "ku" / "kyu". No number starts with "ka", right?
Possibilities would be:
Ni-Kyu (Ni-Ku)
Kyu-Ni (Ku-Ni)
Fu-Kyu (Fu-Ku)
Kyu-Fu (Ku-Fu)
Ni-Ko
Ko-Ni
I think Ni-Ka is too much of a stretch since all other strawhat numbers are on point. If Oda wanted that connection he would have called the Sun God "Niko" or "Niku" and not "Nika".
Also if we renamed Luffy's DF it would be "Hi-To" like chopper's fruit and not "Ni-Ka" since both fruits are a "hito-hito no mi".
@@dissect123 for goroawase only, 9 can also be read as ka
I made a video about this, you definitely connected the dots better than i could
I got real big into One Piece about this time 9 years ago. Watched it through to the end of Thriller Bark, but kept up with the news on where arcs were going (Gears 4 & 5, Reverie, Wano, etc.), and I love when I come back, and there's a FUCKTON of amazing theories. I love it. As for this one, when you mentioned the Paw-Paw Fruit and the poneglyphs, my jaw hit the floor. Fantastic video!
One of my favorite theory videos. Kind of gave credibility to me thinking Luffy and Vivi will get married. If Vivi were to get the Nikyu fruit and become the 2 and 9, both her and Luffys fruit numerologically add up to 11. Luffy being the 1st member and her being the 10th member would both make them 1s numerologically also. 1 and 1 or 11. Same number but different ends of 1-10. This could also translate to their goals with Luffy wanting to be the free-est individual and Vivi wanting to free the world, Once (1) and For All (10). Similar dreams but different scales.
Luffy has been called Lucy or Luci, slap the D on both of their names and you have Lucid and Vivid. Both adjectives for describing dreams. You could also find this mirror concept on the color spectrum, Red (Luffy) and Blue (Vivi) come together to make purple or the color of the Gomu Gomu fruit. This would also make Luffy a literal Pirate King
Just some random thoughts I needed to get out lol
I never made the connection between the scatter of the poneglyphs and the pawpaw fruit. Nice one!
YOOOOOO this is insane. Ngl this another Bomb Morj theory. Love seeing the connection.
Definitely an excellent video
Very well written video
1:40 you blew my mind right away from the start 🤯😨
Yoooo! What a theory!!! I think you’re right
This is the best theory so far.
Very interesting video my friend
This video raises good points, but I think it misses out on one key thing.
For the devil fruit numerology to work, Vivi needs to be a proper member of the base crew, not merely an “honorary” strawhat.
Otherwise, why don’t we consider the devil fruits of other honorary strawhats like barto and Yamato and other allies and members of the grand fleet in the numerology?
Only proper strawhats have their Devil fruits considered in the numerology, therefore for this theory to work, a Nikyu nomi Vivi must join as a proper crew member, not just an honorary strawhat.
Though I think the safe assumption is that the crew is pretty much complete, if there is anyone left to join, it is obviously Vivi.
Besides having a Devil fruit that completes the numerology if the theory is to be accepted, there are many other flags for Vivi joining.
First, like every other crew member, she was introduced pre timeskip. Given that no timeskip characters have joined the proper crew, it would appear that Oda thinks introducing a character post time skip is too late to join the crew (which explains why other candidates like Yamato and carrot didn’t pan out).
Second, Vivi has already properly sailed with the strawhats and been their friend and ally for multiple arcs, as well as an arc dedicated to her. She has an established dynamic with most of the crew already that can just be picked up where it left off. (Other characters like momonosuke, kinenmon, and carrot have done this, but that was in post timeskip).
Third, Luffy offered Vivi the chance to join the crew. The only reason she rejected it was because she needed to politically represent her people. This is the same reason that Jimbei gave for rejecting luffy’s offer initially, and he went on to eventually join the crew. Luffy no doubt still has the offer open, and it’s in her court to take it when she wants, as it was for Jimbei.
Fourth, if Vivi were to join she would have an obvious role to fill within the crew like everyone else (captain, vice captain, navigator, sniper, cook, doctor, poneglyph reader/ archeologist, shipwright, musician, helmsman). Vivi would be the strawhat diplomat, or negotiator, or grand fleet commander or something of the sort. In short, she would take care of the political management and menial operations it takes to properly run luffy’s yonko territories and military forces. If this were to be Vivi’s role in the crew, then it would in hindsight make sense why Oda took her out of the story so long ago and waited so long to have her join the crew. Luffy only recently became a yonko, so there was until recently no need to have anyone fill this kind of role in the crew. Vivi is the perfect person to do it as we all know luffy does not take well to the politics it takes to run an empire.
As a yonko, luffy may even take alabasta as part of his territory. It’s inevitable that he’ll fight a grand war against the world government and this could be a part of that. Vivi may even have a Robinesque arc, where she is captured by the world government and needs to be rescued by the strawhats, invariably resulting in her joining the crew. In this way Vivi’s path to joining the strawhats would also parallel robins, as she was once a baroque works agent turned ally and that eventually came to be rescued by the crew from the world government. She is already on the run as it is.
And as a final touch, luffy did say he wanted 10 crew members. Of course he may have been counting himself in that calculation, in which case the crew is already complete (which I think is the most likely situation given how late the story is now). But Vivi would still fit if luffy didn’t count himself as the 10th crew member, which it’s not clear if he did or didn’t.
In short, if anyone joins the crew at this point it’s Vivi, but that’s up in the air as much as her receiving the nikyu nomi is. Only thing that’s for sure is she’ll be important. She does not need to join the crew to do that, but it would definitely add to her importance.
This makes so much sense....
Morg came back w some heat🔥🔥
3:38 there is the door door fruit as well. Paw fruit isn't the only one.
Also you are assuming that they didn't have any means of fast travel even though Joyboy's ancient kingdom had super advanced tech.
Good job Morj! This sounds right. :)
I like your analysis. Even if it won't happen in the Oda mind, I still hope that your version will come out as realities in manga.
I love when a theory juat makes so much sense
This guy did it again holy crap... I think from all of the theories out there... This ine is SOOOO accurate
Omg 1:43 that actually makes so much sense
this is actually a theory that I really like
Ayyy great theory. Love it
Great theory. I'm locked in on it now
This theory seems pretty strong. Nice breakdown!
Dope idea
This made me so excited for the 1100's
That’s GENIUS!!!
You blewed😮 my mind
I’ve actually heard a similar theory from Gabiru D. Rat, but with all the context we have now this really works!
My mind just broke. Best show ever hands down
Morj theories remain goated