That's not saying much. Melle Mel is one of the most important names in the history of hip hop, and there is nothing Eminem can say or do that will change that. Eminem is important, but he didn't help lay the foundation for hip hop. Melle Mel did. And honestly, Melle Mel, in my opinion, has made some of the best hip hop music of all time. His Eminem diss was terrible, but his 80's and 90's music is amazing. Despite the awful lyrics in his Eminem diss, he has written some of the greatest hip hop lyrics. Beat Street is in a league of its own.
@@christopher399 i agree... Em isnt who he was back in the days and i dont like his new music đ normally i only listen to 80&90s. but i really never heard of that dude tbh lol
â@@christopher399he might have laid the foundation but, bar for bar Em smokes that foo and it's not even close. Then you add, sales, and plays then the gap widens even more. I'm not trying to downplay what he's contributed but what he said about Em is just ignorant.
@@DESmadroso22 I don't know... No other rapper has impressed me more lyrically when it comes to Melle Mel at his finest. If we are talking more recently, then yes, bar for bar, Eminem wins. But Melle Mel at his best is extremely difficult to beat bar for bar. Vocally, if he uses his 80's flow, a lot of people will give the victory to someone else. I have a weak spot for 80's rappers so all of my favorite rappers are the ones from the 80's, but that's not for everyone so I'm probably one of the few that would even consider Melle Mel here. (80's Melle Mel, to me, is easily preferable to Nas, Jay Z, Andre 3000 etc etc.) However, he has made music in the 90's using a flow that would be easier for people to digest. I still think most would give the victory to Eminem if he used his 90's flow, but still... As for sales, I consider it irrelevant. It's a nice way to show off achievements, but it has nothing to do with skills and quality. If Eminem never sold an album, he'd still be equally as talented, and if he had the same people producing for him, the music would also be the same quality. The amount of sales isn't what made him great, and there are plenty of great artists that haven't had much commercial success. Go listen to Beat Street by Melle Mel. Seriously! I don't think you can listen to that song and not be impressed by the lyrics.
@@calebmffetthe fact heâs the greatest selling rapper of all time and all but one of his albums went platinum makes him the goat for me, plus his wordplay is close to unmatched
@@simonhowell4486yes and black people in the top of the industry agree. If they donât they soon find out. Quit hating and name someone better. Then we will have a field day laughing at your pick đđđđ
Vanilla Ice has done great for himself. Sold more than most rappers ever will. But he is rarely seen in top five lists. Most top lists, even the ones that include ten rappers or even twenty, consist of black rappers almost exclusively. That's one thing I don't understand about the argument about his skin color. Most best selling rappers, and most critically acclaimed rappers, are black... So wouldn't it be more beneficial to be a black person in hip hop? The black rappers tend to be the most successful. It's not as if Eminem is the only non-black rapper either. There are plenty of non-black rappers in the world, but its the black rappers that tend to top the charts and do all the numbers. Eminem is a rare exception.
That's what I don't get. He admits to studying most of them and being a student of the game. How can that be racial? It's a skill set and success that people don't like. I love the guy. As someone said, I may not run out to buy most of it because of style preference; you can't deny his skills tho. He doesn't seem to diss Mel that hard because of respect. That's a true artist to me.
Thatâs funny these so called âlegendsâ have the nerve to hate on Eminem when at this age when they were in their 50âs couldnât stay relevant or keep up with the way hip hop was changing.
Melle can miss me with that bullshit. I noticed itâs never a highly respected and high ranked MC like Rakim that got major beef with Em. Itâs always some rapper people barely remember.
who do you think rappers out of US take rap from? oldschool rappers definitelly tupac and nwa ,rest 50 ,em ,lil wayne ,jim jones , and new gen just copies drill stuff or they go the melodic way of uzi pump and them .Em and 50 influenced whole generation of rappers outside and both can go anywhere in world and sell out stadiums .
@@it_is_what_it_is269 but this young generation rapper make music about killing their own folks, about woman butt, and money, and they mumbling the lyric, if one or two their songs using that shit, i can understand, but why they cannot as lyrical as those oldschool rapper? i just dont understand bro
I remember hearing that line when I first listened to his album and thought âPerfect response. Acknowledged his place in the world of hip hop and let him know that he knows his own as well.â â€
Black People would argue. Not everyone agrees on everything all the time. How dense are Em stans really? And Em is BEYOND lyrically skilled but I personally would listen to not only different hiphop/rap artists before Em but different music all together.đ
Em is the best Iâve missed him , Iâm proud of the man and father he is heâs the best since the first time he hit the stage ! Iâve listened to a lot of rappers as far as Iâm concerned a lot of people are concerned heâs the best ! Love you Em
I'm not a fan of rap music and I was as shocked as anyone when I heard eminem. I had no idea what color he was for decades so to blame his Fame on his skin color, is ridiculous. Jesus gave this man special talent it has nothing to do with this color
Best selling rapper ever, 9th best selling artist ever, owner of multiple selling world records, one of fastest rappers ever, probobly most known living music artist on earth, owner of best rhymeschemes in history, man that was asked by dre, Snoop dog etc. to write songs for them, man that made rap mainstream music not underground, that helped ppl like 50 cent get recognize, created few most known rap songs ever, called GOAT or one of GOATs by 50 cent, dre, snoop, Lamar, busta kayne and Drake, only man that he didn't completly dominate on feat is lil Wayne. Em is greatest rapper ever and it's not opinion, it's fact. Amount of legendary songs, sellings, years at game's top, destroyed rappers, flow changes, rhymeschemes, rappers he helped, recognition all around the world, he's winning in every one of that
Just my opinion: 1:Andre 3000 2:Em 3: busta 4:Wayne 5:âŠ. Tough, gotta go with rakim or Nas. Then pac, biggie, method, and either Royce or immortal technique.
He didn't actually diss Mel...he just mentioned that people told him not to respond...and he didn't. That wasn't a diss. Eminem says his skin it keeps him OUT of people's top 5, and the symbolism in the video of him pressed against the glass, or climbing stairs while saying he hates ceilings. The interesting part is that while Mel is entirely wrong about Eminems talent and skills, which are undeniable. He's not wrong about Eminems skin being a MAJOR factor in why he is where he is today. Eminem even joked about it LONG before anyone else called him hip hop elvis, calling himself hip hop elvis. And that's just a fact that he's a white artist in a black art form and culture. He sold the amount he did because he pulled in new audiences...period.
Melle Mel a legend? I ain't even know who he was till he said Eminems name. Eminem is the GOAT of GOATs. He is rap. He is hiphop. Without Eminem, rap stays local, with Eminem, rap goes global. You can deny it, you might not like it, but you will respect it.
Top 5, yeah but it's a goat still in his prime. This is jordan coming back. Sure em is in his 40s...his knee isn't blown and his vocals won't break till he quits.
Oh stop it. Em gets the top spot because heâs talented and itâs the blacks greatest, goats and legends giving him props and top spot which says it all.
Eminem is my number one solo rapper all the time it's not because he's white it's because he has some of the most technical lyrics verses ever who can beat medicine man best friend Till I Collapse Cold Wind Blows 8 Mile the song Lose Yourself not afraid mosh Rap God Godzilla Nat caterpillar unaccommodating Psychopathic killer Kings never die so many he got it's insane in 51 year old coming out with Houdini murder Graham Toby and now the new album coming out on the 12th hopefully how can anybody argue with this man is done he is definitely the rap god goat longest longevity still killing it inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame best selling rap artist in the world that list is hilarious what a joke Eminem is the rap God goat fight me
Tupac Biggie Ice Cube Eazy E Eminem Cannibus Reegie Jay Z LL Cool J Trick Trick 50Cent Royce Da 5'9 Big Sean Snoop Dogg Nas Trench DMX Wayne Wiz Khalifa Hopsins Kendrick Cole Joyner Logic Lil Baby Dababy Ez Mill Cordea Jack Harlow G Eazy Tyga No Need No.s I love Them All
never knew that man untill he started hating on em đ
That's not saying much. Melle Mel is one of the most important names in the history of hip hop, and there is nothing Eminem can say or do that will change that. Eminem is important, but he didn't help lay the foundation for hip hop. Melle Mel did.
And honestly, Melle Mel, in my opinion, has made some of the best hip hop music of all time. His Eminem diss was terrible, but his 80's and 90's music is amazing. Despite the awful lyrics in his Eminem diss, he has written some of the greatest hip hop lyrics. Beat Street is in a league of its own.
@@christopher399 i agree... Em isnt who he was back in the days and i dont like his new music đ normally i only listen to 80&90s. but i really never heard of that dude tbh lol
â@@christopher399he might have laid the foundation but, bar for bar Em smokes that foo and it's not even close. Then you add, sales, and plays then the gap widens even more. I'm not trying to downplay what he's contributed but what he said about Em is just ignorant.
@@DESmadroso22 I don't know... No other rapper has impressed me more lyrically when it comes to Melle Mel at his finest. If we are talking more recently, then yes, bar for bar, Eminem wins. But Melle Mel at his best is extremely difficult to beat bar for bar.
Vocally, if he uses his 80's flow, a lot of people will give the victory to someone else. I have a weak spot for 80's rappers so all of my favorite rappers are the ones from the 80's, but that's not for everyone so I'm probably one of the few that would even consider Melle Mel here. (80's Melle Mel, to me, is easily preferable to Nas, Jay Z, Andre 3000 etc etc.) However, he has made music in the 90's using a flow that would be easier for people to digest. I still think most would give the victory to Eminem if he used his 90's flow, but still...
As for sales, I consider it irrelevant. It's a nice way to show off achievements, but it has nothing to do with skills and quality. If Eminem never sold an album, he'd still be equally as talented, and if he had the same people producing for him, the music would also be the same quality. The amount of sales isn't what made him great, and there are plenty of great artists that haven't had much commercial success.
Go listen to Beat Street by Melle Mel. Seriously! I don't think you can listen to that song and not be impressed by the lyrics.
Ignorance is bliss, I suppose...
Em is top 1
Debatable I got Wayne over him
@@calebmffetthe fact heâs the greatest selling rapper of all time and all but one of his albums went platinum makes him the goat for me, plus his wordplay is close to unmatched
@@calebmffetBruh Wayne is not over Em when it comes to anything, iâm sure Wayne himself agrees đ
Wayne is not better than Em, but Em also ainât the best rapper ever
@@calebmffetfair
Eminem is number 1. The only rapper that can beat eminem is slim shady.
Don't forget the guy from The Marshall Mathers LP
B Rabbit is an underdog but can take em.
I think Tupac and b.i.g should be 1 and 2 and eminem should be 3rd
Doesn't matter his color Eminem is absolutely the goat of the rap world!!!!! đŻ
No
@@simonhowell4486yes and black people in the top of the industry agree. If they donât they soon find out. Quit hating and name someone better. Then we will have a field day laughing at your pick đđđđ
âThat man is a legend, bytch so am Iâ đ„
Name one rapper who is willing to go toe to toe with Eminem ? I rest my case.
The only rapper that can is Slim shady
Benzino
@@SP-ru3rs Who ?
@@SP-ru3rs WHO??????????
â@@thecraig2023 you know, that guy Em stans brag aboutđ like mgk or mobyđ
Didnt work for vanilla ice getting a top spot for being white. Never brought a record of em but the guy is genius with word play.
Vanilla Ice has done great for himself. Sold more than most rappers ever will.
But he is rarely seen in top five lists. Most top lists, even the ones that include ten rappers or even twenty, consist of black rappers almost exclusively. That's one thing I don't understand about the argument about his skin color. Most best selling rappers, and most critically acclaimed rappers, are black... So wouldn't it be more beneficial to be a black person in hip hop? The black rappers tend to be the most successful. It's not as if Eminem is the only non-black rapper either. There are plenty of non-black rappers in the world, but its the black rappers that tend to top the charts and do all the numbers. Eminem is a rare exception.
Talent has no color, itâs undeniable, whether itâs your preference or not.
That's what I don't get. He admits to studying most of them and being a student of the game. How can that be racial? It's a skill set and success that people don't like. I love the guy. As someone said, I may not run out to buy most of it because of style preference; you can't deny his skills tho. He doesn't seem to diss Mel that hard because of respect. That's a true artist to me.
They want to steal hip hop like they stole rock.
They both are legends and being white has nothing to do with it if anything he had to prove his self again and again â€â€
Yes he is, he's my number one
Eminem is the Goat
Eminem is the listđ
he is number 1. Name someone he can"t go against? I am sick of this argument.
Thatâs funny these so called âlegendsâ have the nerve to hate on Eminem when at this age when they were in their 50âs couldnât stay relevant or keep up with the way hip hop was changing.
Melle can miss me with that bullshit. I noticed itâs never a highly respected and high ranked MC like Rakim that got major beef with Em. Itâs always some rapper people barely remember.
Keep shuckin and jivin. Mel paved the way and was before rakim. Yâall attacking the creators for colonizers now?
I smell a victim
In overseas people only know snoop, em, 50, ice cube and the nwa, even in country that have limited knowledge in hip-hop, that's why he is a goat
who do you think rappers out of US take rap from? oldschool rappers definitelly tupac and nwa ,rest 50 ,em ,lil wayne ,jim jones , and new gen just copies drill stuff or they go the melodic way of uzi pump and them .Em and 50 influenced whole generation of rappers outside and both can go anywhere in world and sell out stadiums .
@@it_is_what_it_is269 but this young generation rapper make music about killing their own folks, about woman butt, and money, and they mumbling the lyric, if one or two their songs using that shit, i can understand, but why they cannot as lyrical as those oldschool rapper? i just dont understand bro
Best rapper alive
Even before the "best rapper" retired
I don't know who's that but I know who's Eminem
M is and Will always be the Shit in my book!
Em top 10 dead or Alive . Facts
I remember hearing that line when I first listened to his album and thought
âPerfect response. Acknowledged his place in the world of hip hop and let him know that he knows his own as well.â â€
Someone who is black yeah he definitely on my top five doesn't matter his color it's his kraft,wordplay and skillđȘđż
The most respectful dis âEm has ever thrown.
That pose in white shirt is my fav em pose
Em IS the list!!!
"Mom! Uncle's arguing with grandpa"
Emeninen is a legend forever #1
Eminem worked hard and earned that spot đŻđŻ
Em is number 1 because his blood is red!
Eminem is not in my top five, he is my top 5.
if he's black then no one will argue he is no 1
Black People would argue. Not everyone agrees on everything all the time. How dense are Em stans really? And Em is BEYOND lyrically skilled but I personally would listen to not only different hiphop/rap artists before Em but different music all together.đ
He's ur rapper's favorite rapper... And he wasn't even going hard on this trackđ€Ł
Em is the best Iâve missed him , Iâm proud of the man and father he is heâs the best since the first time he hit the stage ! Iâve listened to a lot of rappers as far as Iâm concerned a lot of people are concerned heâs the best ! Love you Em
Em is on my #1
Of course heâs in my top 5. But heâs not my number 1. Royce Da 5â9â is
Eminem is not top 5, he's top 1
definitely Top 5! Word-play is ridiculous
Plot twist: Em is only white on the outside.
Only rapper doing anything unique for the last 10 years
More like going on nearly 30 years lol Em has surpassed 50 years of age and is still going strong! Itâs insane. Dudes old enough to be a grandpa.
Why we still with melle mel
I'm not a fan of rap music and I was as shocked as anyone when I heard eminem. I had no idea what color he was for decades so to blame his Fame on his skin color, is ridiculous. Jesus gave this man special talent it has nothing to do with this color
Em is my top one not even glazing that man is a legend
Best selling rapper ever, 9th best selling artist ever, owner of multiple selling world records, one of fastest rappers ever, probobly most known living music artist on earth, owner of best rhymeschemes in history, man that was asked by dre, Snoop dog etc. to write songs for them, man that made rap mainstream music not underground, that helped ppl like 50 cent get recognize, created few most known rap songs ever, called GOAT or one of GOATs by 50 cent, dre, snoop, Lamar, busta kayne and Drake, only man that he didn't completly dominate on feat is lil Wayne. Em is greatest rapper ever and it's not opinion, it's fact. Amount of legendary songs, sellings, years at game's top, destroyed rappers, flow changes, rhymeschemes, rappers he helped, recognition all around the world, he's winning in every one of that
Top 5 is getting harder and harder to call, except for the #1 spot.
Just my opinion:
1:Andre 3000
2:Em
3: busta
4:Wayne
5:âŠ. Tough, gotta go with rakim or Nas.
Then pac, biggie, method, and either Royce or immortal technique.
Eminem is the number one rapper all time
Eminem is the greatest rap alive..fact
Top rappers:
Marshall matters
Eminem
Slim Shaddy
White rabbit
No.1 and if he was black that's like a Rap God it's like this dude invented a new planet that is similar to earth â€
Eminem is number 1 all day long
Mel is crazy even if he was black he'd still have a top spot skill ain't got nothing to do with color
Tupac will be my #1 but after that there is no question em is the best
After what?
He didn't actually diss Mel...he just mentioned that people told him not to respond...and he didn't. That wasn't a diss.
Eminem says his skin it keeps him OUT of people's top 5, and the symbolism in the video of him pressed against the glass, or climbing stairs while saying he hates ceilings.
The interesting part is that while Mel is entirely wrong about Eminems talent and skills, which are undeniable. He's not wrong about Eminems skin being a MAJOR factor in why he is where he is today. Eminem even joked about it LONG before anyone else called him hip hop elvis, calling himself hip hop elvis. And that's just a fact that he's a white artist in a black art form and culture. He sold the amount he did because he pulled in new audiences...period.
Eminem is number 1 period
people only diss a threat 100%
Em answer with class and of course his word play
Melle Mel a legend? I ain't even know who he was till he said Eminems name. Eminem is the GOAT of GOATs. He is rap. He is hiphop. Without Eminem, rap stays local, with Eminem, rap goes global. You can deny it, you might not like it, but you will respect it.
Em is a legend
He responded to Eminem with a lackluster track and came up short.
If Em was black he'll be top 1 true story.
Top 5, yeah but it's a goat still in his prime. This is jordan coming back. Sure em is in his 40s...his knee isn't blown and his vocals won't break till he quits.
E... effortless... đđđ
I believe he's a GREAT RAPPER.... that's just my opinion đđđđ
Eminem is the GOAT
Mel didnât get the âMessageâ Em is top 5.
Eminem has been the goat forever
Imagine eminem with same look but black skin and same voice, i think he would make it
Em isn't in my top 5, but he's in my top 1 đ
em gets people who dont like rap to like rap,
im proof
Oh stop it. Em gets the top spot because heâs talented and itâs the blacks greatest, goats and legends giving him props and top spot which says it all.
This guy really eminem is number one after tupac or equal 2024 đ„ â€đ
Wow I feel that way about many Black people. This been going on for years.
I STARTED LISTENING TO HIP HOP BECAUSE OF EMINEM. ENOUGH SAID.
Eminem is in my no. 1 spot. I am trying to find a better spot for himâ€
My man always top 1....he is people's champ â€â€â€â€â€
Saying Em onky gwts a spot cause his white is cap! Come on man! Everyone knows Eminem deserves his spot up the top!
Eminem is my number one solo rapper all the time it's not because he's white it's because he has some of the most technical lyrics verses ever who can beat medicine man best friend Till I Collapse Cold Wind Blows 8 Mile the song Lose Yourself not afraid mosh Rap God Godzilla Nat caterpillar unaccommodating Psychopathic killer Kings never die so many he got it's insane in 51 year old coming out with Houdini murder Graham Toby and now the new album coming out on the 12th hopefully how can anybody argue with this man is done he is definitely the rap god goat longest longevity still killing it inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame best selling rap artist in the world that list is hilarious what a joke Eminem is the rap God goat fight me
Definitely Top 5!
Hell yeah em is the goat yall could never take that from him
Em is top guest in hip hop all-time all other white rappers are mid or lower
Em saved his money and took care of his kids he is the winner đ.
Tell kdot to diss him and see what happens đ
At first I liked em then I stopped....seems like he's back on track with this new shit đź
Its not really a diss, but a respond, right?
Why dose racism only work one way?
Yep, heâs definitely in top five even though I donât really listen to rap, I know heâs up there with the rest of them.
Yes Em is in my top 2.
Tupac
Biggie
Ice Cube
Eazy E
Eminem
Cannibus
Reegie
Jay Z
LL Cool J
Trick Trick
50Cent
Royce Da 5'9
Big Sean
Snoop Dogg
Nas
Trench
DMX
Wayne
Wiz Khalifa
Hopsins
Kendrick
Cole
Joyner
Logic
Lil Baby
Dababy
Ez Mill
Cordea
Jack Harlow
G Eazy
Tyga
No Need No.s I love Them All
Jay z
Boooooo
Eminem is not top 5. He's top God
Em is my top 1, PERIODT!
He's in my top 1
Em is Top 5, maybe Top 10 if youâre really into rap. Def not #1 tho, unless you really donât know the craft.
Em is #1 for me. âđŸ
The best to ever touch a mic
God every time I hear that comment, I think he can't be that dumb.
Candice Owen's own you
Em in the top 5 for sure
GOAT.
Who's melle mel even..? Ngl until that scrub hated Eminem I didn't knew bout him
Mel ainât black since 1989 look how light skin my guy isđ
You tell'em Bidenđ
Yes EM is the GOAT