I remember that damn wagon. I took extra special care to get it to Seamus in perfect condition. But when Arthur climbed off it, the whole wagon glitched 3 feet into the air before falling to the ground. Stupid wagon.
😂I always beat his ass after every transaction. I bring a wagon, fence a few things then whoop his ass. His lines crack me up. He'll say stuff like "You betta not even think of putting your hands on me this time" or "You got the best of me last time" and he will sometimes have his hand wrapped up in bandages 😂 One time I hogtied him and took him to Annesburg and just dumped him in the middle of the street and left him there, rode back to Emerald Ranch and he was already back there in his fencing shop 😂
Because my game is buggy, he'll just randomly have bandages on and tell my not to do that again, but I've never laid a hand on him. Same with the trapper. He got hisself killed by wolves because he's either dumb, Canadian, or both; and then when he respawns 8 days later, he gets on my case. "Well see if you can keep your temper this time, eh"
@@rbn9549 Actually they may be right. There's quite a list of stuff that R* has broken throughout the updates and never went back to fix. You could try confirming if you play the 1.0 version. I for one remember that each time you filled a bowl of soup and hanged the ladle back, it actually stayed hanging as it should be instead of falling to the ground as soon as it left your hand. It was broken for both online and story mode in an update a little while after the PC launch. Been broken since.
@@Mk_Otaid same with the girl in the window at emerald ranch I've stood outside her house like a crazy stalker waiting for her to turn up 3 in game day's never once seen her I haven't seen her for over a year possibly more
Seamus was my #1 earner for my last playthrough. Millions of wagons spawn around Emerald Ranch and you can make a few thousand bucks fast. The amounts you get is between $15-$40. There's a stage coach at the train station northeast of the ranch called Emerald Station. You get $40 for that one. Whenever I can't find a wagon ill check to see if the stagecoach has spawned 😂
..a few thousand? fast? bull. even if you got $40 per wagon, it'd still take a while to just get a thousand. he was my #1 earner bc i sold all the gold and loot i "found" to him. lol.
@@Blorkion64 That sure ain't bad. If your pockets get really empty, there's videos showing how to grab about $12k in gold bars and should take about an hour; lots of fun exploration and unique sites to visit that I didn't catch in any of my previous playthroughs. Be warned, though, that being rich breaks some of the immersion and really make acquisition feel pointless.
I love stealing oil wagons. Makes me feel like I'm robbing Cornwall, rather than just some common citizen. Before doing the Pouring Forth Oil mission, the wagon you steal for John can be stolen and will respawn.
@@AshwinY I don't know if it's all of chapter 2, or just prior to that mission. It was pure coincidence that I got the idea of stealing a Cornwall wagon from the depot.
Alright y’all let’s be honest here, we all now tha the best npc to beat the hell up from, is John the Crazy old guy in the saloon in valentine, plus you get a free raccoon hat :D.
When I did that stagecoach robbery, I was pretty confused too at first, thinking that I may have somehow ruined the cargo, the wagon or something. Repeated it at least 3 times... To which I finally ultimately understood that, nope, him complaining of the wagon being "beaten up" and giving you just 40$ is what's supposed to happen.
Yeah I just did this one yesterday. Made a sharp turn and sent half the loot flying out the back, but still got the same dialogue and $40 payout. I thought it was just because I messed up lol
I brought him a fancy one horse carriage from Saint Denis and when I was carefully driving it there ppl I passed kept commenting that I must've been ritch. The fence gave me 50$ for it
It's weird how much people hate npcs pulling a gun when you're already aiming at them, I thought it was cool how many people tried to fight. Always a bad idea on their part, but it's kinda fun. Also I had a guy get mad at me for riding near him or something and he pulled a rifle, aimed at me and said something like "You wanna see what I can do with a shooter?" and as soon as I pulled my revolver he put the rifle away and quickly trotted off, it was hilarious. It was like "You sonofabitch I swear I'll put a hole in you- *draws revolver* -holy shit I didn't see you had a gun I didn't mean it, I'm a terrible shot honestly, I don't want this I'll just be goin' now, sir."
It would just be nice if people you robbed would surrender so you weren't forced to always murder them. The robbing mechanic is kind of broken since it's essentially a murder mechanic bc they always fight
@@safesoundequine8511 not true. If they are on horseback they fight, on the ground if you press rob first then aim at them they will give you the money
I've noticed he doesn't care about how fancy or expensive the coach or wagon is. But he does care if it has cargo such as beer kegs, fruit, straw, oil and general supplies.
Random Q. So, if the wagon having supplies makes a difference, does that mean I can pick up and place random items(straw, flour, game?) in the wagon before delivering it and he'll notice it and cough up more money?
@@stxdude830 I wasn't aware we could put supplies in coaches and wagons? Unless that's a online thing? Basically he will pay well for a rickety old wagon full of oranges but he won't cough up for a top of the line growler from Saint Denis or pristine four horse stagecoach. It's weird.
For some reason he liked a ruined and empty wagon with just one horse that I brought from New Austin much more than a fine and expensively-looking one. It was also filled with arrows that were shot at it. I wonder why
@@anthonyjones8160 How do you know that is his fence? Him being "fence-adjacent" doesn't make him a fence owner--he could just be baby-sitting someone else's fence.
@@ronarprefect7709 What tipped me off was the quiet sense of pride he radiates when he walks past it. He's like "dang, that's a good fence, and it's myyyy fence. Aww yeah." Much more intimate a connection than he'd dare have with another man's fence.
One of the worst parts about a game is you could try and rob someone and have your shotgun already pointing out their head and they will still try and fight you. Like the guns already there at their head maybe just have them surrender kind of thing? Also we all hated the witness thing I'm sure they stopped once during the mission with Reverend because he was supposed to XD
Idk about you but I've never had trouble stopping witnesses, put the bandy on and equip the double Schofield's aimed straight at their back middle mass and they always stop, scared shitless. Even playing with a mod where I can't see enemy blips including witnesses and I still manage to stop all of em most of the time
@@FemboyKaiSaku I finished Arthur's playthrough and ended with perfect honor so it's totally do-able. I really leaned into the redemption of his character once I found out he had TB and spent the last of my days as Arthur trying to help people where I could
At least $40 back then was equivalent to about 1200 today. Looks like I wasted time trying to keep my wagons nice; they were always $40 or less, I think.
Yeah, 40 is the most he ever gives, and only for the best coaches. Some coaches only bring 25, wagons 15 and carts 10, if I remember right. It doesn't really matter if you beat them up, except this special one for this side mission, even though he comments about it.
@@thedungeon1288 I don't really see what that has to do with selling stolen wagons... but yeah, the "economy" in this game is rather skewed, it doesn't accurately represent the actual value of items or dollars as they were back then, and making money is easier in game than it would have been in real life, especially when you factor in the dozens of treasures hidden around the map.
@@WalrusWinking Add in hunting everything that moves up and back, storing the pelts on your horse, and gathering all the herbs you can store in your satchel. Even the value of poor quality pelts/ birds add up quick when you hunt *that* much along the way. Plus - if that's not constant enough - you can always camp out by Emerald Ranch and steal wagons that you give to Seamus. The stagecoach that spawns over there (IIRC) respawns incessantly if you just sell it to him.
@@ilovejettrooper5922 Now do this for lets say 80 hours (The length of my first playthrough not including the epilogue) and you get tired of it. I like to diversify income as much as possible. Constantly picking up plants and skinning animals maybe instead spice it up robbing a few houses instead and sticking up stage coaches.
I've never beat Seamus and I always get 40 for every coach even the little single horse drawn ones so I'm not sure what beating Seamus would change aside from give him the bandage on his head.
Seamus is funny with his prices. I bring a perfectly fine wagon, and he says there's a war on, and gives me $25. I bring him one riding on three wheels, swaying back and forth, and he's happy, giving me $40 🤠
Coaches usually bring 25 to 40, nice ones always get you 40... wagons are 15 to 20 most of the time, so the wagon with the antiques would normally bring that, so him giving 40 for it is actually fair and reasonable. The small carts only get 10 to 15 (I think) and condition really doesn't matter even though he comments about it.
I usually get 40. I always thought it was something to do with my honour rating. I tried staying high honour for majority of the game. But sometimes the people of Van Horn just can't keep their mouth shut. After a couple of visits I ended up around the low honour side of the middle and that's when I experienced most of my lower payments. But I was trying to speed run my bandit challenges. So I might not of been taking notice of the types of wagons I was bringing back. Used to steal them right in front of him haha, just over the train tracks.
I like that the specific point of that coach quest was to get a more expensive coach because of all the art in it. Then even though he was expecting it specifically still acted dumb and paid base value. Wild
The oil rig wagon goes for 50. I drove a Gatling gun wagon all the way from st. Denis and only got 40. Which is crazy considering how rare that is. This game is great but it's also extremely lazy at the same time.
I think from an auto stripper point of view of modern times, if something is very fancy, it's also very unique and therefore a lot easier to identify. A generic car, or in this case a stage coach, can be sold as just as much as a high end transport because there is far less work put in to flip it.
It's about that joke of a payment he is giving you every time. You bring a shitty wagon which looks like it's gonna fall apart if you touch it? Here's 40 bucks. You bring an expensive coach in great condition? *Here's 40 bucks*
No it's not. You get 40 dollars easily by stealing any normal wagon. If you get 40 for a wagon that you put so much effort on to maintain, how the hell is it worth it ?
For some reason I'll get Seamus wearing the head bandage and giving the dialogue about don't try anything this time just at random. Current playthru he did that the first time I ever talked to him after the Hosea mission. Never touched him lol.
I was in a fight with the locals, the fence guy tackled me, so I quickly jamed the barrel into his eye and hoped a new fence would generate, lol he just had his head wrapped in bandages, a two black eyes, even seemed a lot simpler after that one.
Horses: atleast over 100 Dollars. Wheels: idk but i think 30 dollars. Harness and Reins: Atleast 60 Dollars. the main body of a stagecoach: 70 Dollars. A box with Some stuff: 10-20 dollars. Seamus: Best i can do is 40 Dollars
Honestly, seamus is fast easy money at that point in the game. I never give him a hard time. Now that wiseass lowballer horse fence? I drown him and tell his mute brother to get lost every time. Only witness in the whole game im not concerned with.
There was a mission where u steal a wagon with Hosea and take it to the fence he will give you 500 dollars and you split with Hosea bet then when u give him another wagon after the mission he gives u 40
It's not quite free-aim, the sight automatically centers on the nearest target's upper torso when you start aiming, so you can easily headshot an entire group of people by releasing and re-engaging your aim after every shot and just moving the cursor slightly upwards.
It's only a matter of practice. I couldn't get used to it either what with the analog controller and in third person, but I found my balance. You will too.
It’s a lot better than gta 5’s free aim. Just increase your sensitivity slightly and be patient. You can’t force a good shot so you have to take your time to wait for it, or engage another target if he’s in a difficult spot behind cover.
Sheamus money is invicible 😂 it doesn't matter how many wagons that you are going to bringing to him. we can't see his money but we can see his empty hand.
The amount given is actually a fair price. In the old west everything was cheap. I do hate that when you buy a horse it costs $900 dollars but if you sell one its $12. Rockstar's money logic is meased up.
If you think about it $40 in 1899 would probably be about the equivalent of $800 today given the current inflation rate. If you just stole some random Honda Civic from a grocery store, a chop-shop owner probably wouldn’t give you much more. I really don’t know for sure, I’ve never stolen cars or dealt with chop-shops, but from what I’ve read they don’t pay much. Maybe they do if you’re bringing in a new Porsche or something - which I actually imagine they might not want with today’s tracking systems, but who knows? Seamus is basically just a chop-shop owner.
You can crack those devices with special apparature. It's not easy to do or to get it. But believe me it can be done. But was it worth jail... That's the big question. And they pay decent money even for a Honda civic (especially when it's a sports model ime)
@@Kvs-vf9nt - That’s interesting, sounds like you’re a hobbyist learning these things to deter people stealing your vehicles 😉. I used to know this guy, he wasn’t a friend but my neighbor’s boyfriend (always in and out of county jail). He used to just sit outside grocery stores or liquor stores (in CA grocery stores can sell liquor), or sometimes park in a strip mall in between a grocery store and a liquor store. He said pretty much every morning some drunk would drive there at like 8am when they opened, leave their car running so they could just run in and buy booze really fast and come back out and drive off if anyone noticed. The guy I knew would watch for this, have his girlfriend parked in their car and then run and hop in the car just running with the keys in it and drive it right to a chop shop. He probably got paid before the police even started writing an incident report. And then his girlfriend could just drive home, wait for his call, and pick him up so they could go get their meth and eventually have someone call the cops on them for screaming too loud. Fun times 😂. Ironically that was actually a really nice luxury apartment community, it wasn’t a dump in the ghetto. The girl just had wealthy parents who supported her with everything except for her drug addiction (which she dated losers to keep that supported). It was kind of sad, she was still really beautiful because she was only 21 at the time. She could have done a lot better, unless she stopped I guarantee she’s not so pretty anymore because this was like ten years ago.
It has nothing to do with beating anyone up. It's a unique wagon. The only one carrying special antiques. Others that are high quality will always pay you 40
the caption has me dying . i havent even watched yet but i feel this video because seamus be talking madd trash and breaking off small change behind it . its so funny because i have often thought about doing this ...watching now with great anticipation to laugh ... here goes. lol
I sometimes don't understand, that a random plain simple carriage made of plain planks reward me 80 dollars, yet, the actual carriage with red colors and full enclosed carriage only give me just 40 dollars for some reason.
So why should you always beat Seamus? Just because you can? This last time I did that debt collection in Emerald Ranch I just rode away instead of chasing Seamus down (because by now I knew it was him who was the witness). I got a bounty and even though I never touched him, the next time I saw him he complained how I beat him up last time. That was the one time I should have beat him.
One time a used an explosive shotgun shell and blew off his head and limbs then when I came back he had a bandage on his head and told me that last time we fought he was going easy on me
😂😂😂😂
Ty🥺🖤
The slow turn before the first punch 😂😂😂
careful, AshwinY shows a pattern.
I remember that damn wagon. I took extra special care to get it to Seamus in perfect condition. But when Arthur climbed off it, the whole wagon glitched 3 feet into the air before falling to the ground. Stupid wagon.
Yep same here
The same thing happened to me.
yep, just beat the shit out of seamus because of it. ridiculous
Skill issue
Same 'er lol.
😂I always beat his ass after every transaction. I bring a wagon, fence a few things then whoop his ass. His lines crack me up. He'll say stuff like "You betta not even think of putting your hands on me this time" or "You got the best of me last time" and he will sometimes have his hand wrapped up in bandages 😂 One time I hogtied him and took him to Annesburg and just dumped him in the middle of the street and left him there, rode back to Emerald Ranch and he was already back there in his fencing shop 😂
Because my game is buggy, he'll just randomly have bandages on and tell my not to do that again, but I've never laid a hand on him.
Same with the trapper. He got hisself killed by wolves because he's either dumb, Canadian, or both; and then when he respawns 8 days later, he gets on my case. "Well see if you can keep your temper this time, eh"
@@lasagnasux4934 🤣
😅🤣
😅😅🤣👍
Bring him to the grizzlies 😂😂
You: Bring him a special & expensive Wagon
Him: How the hell you get it so beat up?
So then, I started blasting! :D
@@BigHappysPlace I beat him regularly
And cold blooded murder in the process. Fuck that guy
i literally drove 2 meters an hour just to get the same dialogue
I swear there was a time when Seamus hands you not air but actual cash.
Mandela effect
@@rbn9549 Actually they may be right. There's quite a list of stuff that R* has broken throughout the updates and never went back to fix. You could try confirming if you play the 1.0 version. I for one remember that each time you filled a bowl of soup and hanged the ladle back, it actually stayed hanging as it should be instead of falling to the ground as soon as it left your hand. It was broken for both online and story mode in an update a little while after the PC launch. Been broken since.
@@Mk_Otaid same with the girl in the window at emerald ranch I've stood outside her house like a crazy stalker waiting for her to turn up 3 in game day's never once seen her I haven't seen her for over a year possibly more
@@dawnharley9889 Shes buried in the garden now
Inflation, mate
Seamus was my #1 earner for my last playthrough. Millions of wagons spawn around Emerald Ranch and you can make a few thousand bucks fast. The amounts you get is between $15-$40. There's a stage coach at the train station northeast of the ranch called Emerald Station. You get $40 for that one. Whenever I can't find a wagon ill check to see if the stagecoach has spawned 😂
You can get $50 for a Cornwall oil Wagon
..a few thousand? fast? bull. even if you got $40 per wagon, it'd still take a while to just get a thousand. he was my #1 earner bc i sold all the gold and loot i "found" to him. lol.
@@tw--dle three wagons is $120 which i easily do every 5 minutes. Thats $1,440 an hour. I consider that a lot of money fast.
@@Blorkion64 That sure ain't bad.
If your pockets get really empty, there's videos showing how to grab about $12k in gold bars and should take about an hour; lots of fun exploration and unique sites to visit that I didn't catch in any of my previous playthroughs.
Be warned, though, that being rich breaks some of the immersion and really make acquisition feel pointless.
Bruh doing that instead of glitching gold bars or something, are you alright? lol
I edited this comment to make its responses more confusing
Wait, You pay for things and then rob? I just rob and take the things.
@@BigHappysPlace it was just an example
Someone should make a mod that shows Arthur writing a check. Lol
@Alex Perez That’s a Rockstar Game 😅
@Alex PerezI think that only happens in GTA V
**hits him** _relaaaaax my friend, never mind_ 😌 **proceeds to hit him again**
I never knew you could interact and mislead them into thinking the wheel was broken. I always just started blasting whenever I saw the wagons. 😂
I do that too! It's a mission btw given by alden, you can't mislead them outside of the mission
Frank Reynolds mentality
"so anyways, I started blasting"
I knew you could but I still just start shooting anyway lol
You a true soldier.
If its an oil wagon he will pay you $50
I love stealing oil wagons. Makes me feel like I'm robbing Cornwall, rather than just some common citizen.
Before doing the Pouring Forth Oil mission, the wagon you steal for John can be stolen and will respawn.
Nice.. I didn't know that
@@AshwinY I don't know if it's all of chapter 2, or just prior to that mission. It was pure coincidence that I got the idea of stealing a Cornwall wagon from the depot.
That’s American 🦅
Bro where can you find an oil wagon? They spawn literally nowhere for me
We learn 2 things with Seamus 1 is Seamus prices are bs and 2 NEVER spend all of that money ones
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you get higher prices for oil wagons at least....
I swear it’s too much fun fighting npcs in RD2
For some reason I keep going up to the Bartender guy in valentine and punching the hell out of him
@Nathan Harris. Just… why?….
He wouldn’t give me cold water,
I’m
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The one drunk pioneer dude with the ratcoon hat is supposedly the best fighter out there in rdr2, it's really fun fighting him.
@@bruhism173 he for sure is never seen a guy live longer when taking a beating from arthur and he comes back so I'm guessing hes pretty durable
I beat him up every time because even if I don't, he acts like I did. lol
😂
Beating up on Seamus is my favorite thing to do
Same. I've never laid a hand on him or accidentally aimed at him but he keeps talking about how I beat him up the last time I came thru.
Yep, wearing the bandages and everything. He's one of those people who jump on people's cars to try and get insurance money.
@@lasagnasux4934 🤣
Alright y’all let’s be honest here, we all now tha the best npc to beat the hell up from, is John the Crazy old guy in the saloon in valentine, plus you get a free raccoon hat :D.
Wait what
I walked back in their after fighting him and he attacked me from behind!
I go out of my way to stop in valentine hoping he's in the saloon.
If you wear his raccoon hat in town he'll eventually chase, and fight you.
If you go and spent the night in the hotel across the street, there’s a 50% chase that he with go into your room and put you back to bed jaja
@@fallvec1423 Lol
When I did that stagecoach robbery, I was pretty confused too at first, thinking that I may have somehow ruined the cargo, the wagon or something. Repeated it at least 3 times... To which I finally ultimately understood that, nope, him complaining of the wagon being "beaten up" and giving you just 40$ is what's supposed to happen.
Yeah I just did this one yesterday. Made a sharp turn and sent half the loot flying out the back, but still got the same dialogue and $40 payout. I thought it was just because I messed up lol
When i did that i got fifty and also dropped the statues and smashed them
No the explosive rounds and speeding off the trails ruins it. If you take your time he gives you different dialog
"Relax my friend, nevermind", "You better be careful there my friend" says Arthur while beating the crap out of Seamus 😀
That was the funniest interaction I've ever seen outta Seamus.
Totally logical lines of dialogue. Seamus knows he deserves this.
I brought him a fancy one horse carriage from Saint Denis and when I was carefully driving it there ppl I passed kept commenting that I must've been ritch. The fence gave me 50$ for it
Nice
Really?! I did the exact same thing thinking I would get at least $50 for it, he gave me $20. Never again making that stupid trip
@@PurpleBassThumb
Yeah, he's rapes me almost on a regular jacking wagons for him. Ever once in a while he will pay 50$ ughhh the low rent bum
50 bucks then was about 1500 bucks. Not bad for something stolen and with the scarcity of money then
40 bucks for historical artificats and pieces of art
killed 4 mens for 40$
It's weird how much people hate npcs pulling a gun when you're already aiming at them, I thought it was cool how many people tried to fight. Always a bad idea on their part, but it's kinda fun. Also I had a guy get mad at me for riding near him or something and he pulled a rifle, aimed at me and said something like "You wanna see what I can do with a shooter?" and as soon as I pulled my revolver he put the rifle away and quickly trotted off, it was hilarious. It was like "You sonofabitch I swear I'll put a hole in you- *draws revolver* -holy shit I didn't see you had a gun I didn't mean it, I'm a terrible shot honestly, I don't want this I'll just be goin' now, sir."
It would just be nice if people you robbed would surrender so you weren't forced to always murder them. The robbing mechanic is kind of broken since it's essentially a murder mechanic bc they always fight
@@safesoundequine8511 not true. If they are on horseback they fight, on the ground if you press rob first then aim at them they will give you the money
because it is very unrealistic, and it is meant to be a game focused on realism, and i wanna roleplay being an outlaw sometimes lol
I've noticed he doesn't care about how fancy or expensive the coach or wagon is.
But he does care if it has cargo such as beer kegs, fruit, straw, oil and general supplies.
Random Q. So, if the wagon having supplies makes a difference, does that mean I can pick up and place random items(straw, flour, game?) in the wagon before delivering it and he'll notice it and cough up more money?
@@stxdude830 I wasn't aware we could put supplies in coaches and wagons? Unless that's a online thing?
Basically he will pay well for a rickety old wagon full of oranges but he won't cough up for a top of the line growler from Saint Denis or pristine four horse stagecoach.
It's weird.
@MadastheHatter13 I wasn't either, this is my first time playing any RDR game, and w all that you can do already, I wondered if you can do that too
@@MadastheHatter13naw you gotta find supply wagons around town and steal them. It's pretty cool though. Adds a little immersion
For some reason he liked a ruined and empty wagon with just one horse that I brought from New Austin much more than a fine and expensively-looking one. It was also filled with arrows that were shot at it. I wonder why
He isn't a "fence owner". He is a "fence". Good day to you.
Correction: he IS a fence owner. You can see it off to the side there. He's also a fence, but that's just a coincidence...
@@anthonyjones8160 How do you know that is his fence? Him being "fence-adjacent" doesn't make him a fence owner--he could just be baby-sitting someone else's fence.
@@ronarprefect7709 What tipped me off was the quiet sense of pride he radiates when he walks past it. He's like "dang, that's a good fence, and it's myyyy fence. Aww yeah." Much more intimate a connection than he'd dare have with another man's fence.
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One of the worst parts about a game is you could try and rob someone and have your shotgun already pointing out their head and they will still try and fight you. Like the guns already there at their head maybe just have them surrender kind of thing? Also we all hated the witness thing I'm sure they stopped once during the mission with Reverend because he was supposed to XD
Idk about you but I've never had trouble stopping witnesses, put the bandy on and equip the double Schofield's aimed straight at their back middle mass and they always stop, scared shitless. Even playing with a mod where I can't see enemy blips including witnesses and I still manage to stop all of em most of the time
That's why you don't bother stopping them. Run them down and shotgun them.
Hate that shit, game just wants you to lose honor
@@christianphillips7695 you're literally an outlaw, it's impossible to have perfect honour ol
@@FemboyKaiSaku I finished Arthur's playthrough and ended with perfect honor so it's totally do-able. I really leaned into the redemption of his character once I found out he had TB and spent the last of my days as Arthur trying to help people where I could
At least $40 back then was equivalent to about 1200 today. Looks like I wasted time trying to keep my wagons nice; they were always $40 or less, I think.
Yeah, 40 is the most he ever gives, and only for the best coaches. Some coaches only bring 25, wagons 15 and carts 10, if I remember right. It doesn't really matter if you beat them up, except this special one for this side mission, even though he comments about it.
If that were true we would not have to pay 5 dollars for a meal in the saloon
@@thedungeon1288 I don't really see what that has to do with selling stolen wagons... but yeah, the "economy" in this game is rather skewed, it doesn't accurately represent the actual value of items or dollars as they were back then, and making money is easier in game than it would have been in real life, especially when you factor in the dozens of treasures hidden around the map.
@@thedungeon1288
meals did not go up as well as, for example, clothes
The horse stable guy when you take him a horse tho he basically be like "no papers? Here's 5 bucks"
Bond the horse to level 4. You can get 240 for the white Arabian.
@@ilovejettrooper5922 There's only ONE White Arabian in the game, though. You need a constant stream of money.
@@WalrusWinking Add in hunting everything that moves up and back, storing the pelts on your horse, and gathering all the herbs you can store in your satchel. Even the value of poor quality pelts/ birds add up quick when you hunt *that* much along the way.
Plus - if that's not constant enough - you can always camp out by Emerald Ranch and steal wagons that you give to Seamus. The stagecoach that spawns over there (IIRC) respawns incessantly if you just sell it to him.
@@ilovejettrooper5922 Now do this for lets say 80 hours (The length of my first playthrough not including the epilogue) and you get tired of it. I like to diversify income as much as possible. Constantly picking up plants and skinning animals maybe instead spice it up robbing a few houses instead and sticking up stage coaches.
@@WalrusWinking It respawns though
I've never beat Seamus and I always get 40 for every coach even the little single horse drawn ones so I'm not sure what beating Seamus would change aside from give him the bandage on his head.
Beating him does nothing but make fun times. Nothing else
It makes losers feel tough in real life.
@Luke Foran yes cuz apparently not everyone is a gunslinging, outlaw, cowboy like you. We need to live vicariously through rdr2
@@fozzledoff1spectrum baby alert 🚨
@@fozzledoff1ur like 300lbs still living with ur mom, ur the loser🤷
Bro I haven’t laughed this hard in awhile
That left hook at the end cracked me up
"Careful there my friend." Throws haymaker
What happens if you give him a prison wagon with the prisoner still inside?
extra money
@@stolen540 *sLAvery*
I tried it, he doesnt take prison wagons at all
He won't take wagon with gatling gun as well. He says bring me something useful. I shot him for wasting my time
He won’t take a prison wagon
Seamus is funny with his prices. I bring a perfectly fine wagon, and he says there's a war on, and gives me $25.
I bring him one riding on three wheels, swaying back and forth, and he's happy, giving me $40 🤠
It depends on the kind of the wagon and oil one obviously costs more than a one horse wagon
Coaches usually bring 25 to 40, nice ones always get you 40... wagons are 15 to 20 most of the time, so the wagon with the antiques would normally bring that, so him giving 40 for it is actually fair and reasonable. The small carts only get 10 to 15 (I think) and condition really doesn't matter even though he comments about it.
I usually get 40. I always thought it was something to do with my honour rating. I tried staying high honour for majority of the game. But sometimes the people of Van Horn just can't keep their mouth shut.
After a couple of visits I ended up around the low honour side of the middle and that's when I experienced most of my lower payments. But I was trying to speed run my bandit challenges. So I might not of been taking notice of the types of wagons I was bringing back. Used to steal them right in front of him haha, just over the train tracks.
@@cyberdynejustice St. Dennis too 😂
I like that the specific point of that coach quest was to get a more expensive coach because of all the art in it. Then even though he was expecting it specifically still acted dumb and paid base value. Wild
What a gentleman player; you made sure they each drew their gun or fired at you before putting them down.
Well played.
The oil rig wagon goes for 50.
I drove a Gatling gun wagon all the way from st. Denis and only got 40. Which is crazy considering how rare that is. This game is great but it's also extremely lazy at the same time.
I think from an auto stripper point of view of modern times, if something is very fancy, it's also very unique and therefore a lot easier to identify. A generic car, or in this case a stage coach, can be sold as just as much as a high end transport because there is far less work put in to flip it.
“Relax my friend…nevermind”
*POW*
🤣😂🤣
I wasted almost 3 minutes to see why you should beat some npc to find out nothing on why you should beat said npc. I want my 3 minutes back
Thx for saving me 3 minutes
It's about that joke of a payment he is giving you every time. You bring a shitty wagon which looks like it's gonna fall apart if you touch it? Here's 40 bucks. You bring an expensive coach in great condition? *Here's 40 bucks*
Looked it up, the average worth of a buggy around that time was 35-40 ish dollars, a BUGGY. Not counting horses which would cost a lot more.
$40 back then is the equivalent of like $1200 in todays money. its about worth it I think.
$1428 To be exact.
No it's not. You get 40 dollars easily by stealing any normal wagon. If you get 40 for a wagon that you put so much effort on to maintain, how the hell is it worth it ?
@@Flash36593 i don't think you know what you're talking about
@@waffler-yz3gw ok
@@Flash36593 what effort to maintain? You stole the fucking thing, only effort you had to do is stay on the damn road lmfao
I’m going to teach my son that he should always “beat seamus”.
For some reason I'll get Seamus wearing the head bandage and giving the dialogue about don't try anything this time just at random. Current playthru he did that the first time I ever talked to him after the Hosea mission. Never touched him lol.
Seamus: * buys a stolen wagon from Arthur for $40 bucks *
Arthur: *BOLD WORDS FOR SOMEONE WHO OUGHT TO BE CAREFUL THERE, FRIEND* !
Aurther: shoots npc
Npc: screaming
Aurther: hello
Npc: have a fine day
Then end.
I lost it when you made his head ricochet off the counter 😭😂😂😂
Best wagons are always Oil wagonns. They be easy money if Seamus brought them online but rockstar probably put a cool down.
RDR2 teached me to draw and shoot instead of talk first. Because there will always be somebody who won't let you even finish a sentence.
"dont spend it all at once"
Arthur : 🤜👊 dont tell me how to spend my money boy
How do you hold your rifle in your left hand?
L1
$40 in 1899 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $1,449.83 today
"dont spend it all at once"
*Knocked the fck out* 😂
Much better pay than RDO payout system
OMFGGGG when Arthur took the second wagon back & he only gave him $40
I just knew it was bout to go down 😭😭😭
Seamus is one of my favorite npc’s to mess with bro 😂 his reactions are always funny af
"relax my friend, never mind"..
*proceeds to knock him out*
I'm sorry but that bounce off the table was beautiful
I love how you wait for them to draw their gun before shooting them.
Bro pure comedy 😂😂😂
I was in a fight with the locals, the fence guy tackled me, so I quickly jamed the barrel into his eye and hoped a new fence would generate, lol he just had his head wrapped in bandages, a two black eyes, even seemed a lot simpler after that one.
I swear Arthur’s a damn Terminator in Red Dead
My coffee came out my nose, from seeing Seamus standing with his head wrapped & then taking a bitch slap to the face 😭
I agree, I’ll be damned if I take any lip from a damn npc
Thats some pimp mentality right there 😂😂
So that’s where Seamus from WWE 🤕 come from
Horses: atleast over 100 Dollars.
Wheels: idk but i think 30 dollars.
Harness and Reins: Atleast 60 Dollars.
the main body of a stagecoach: 70 Dollars.
A box with Some stuff: 10-20 dollars.
Seamus: Best i can do is 40 Dollars
Honestly, seamus is fast easy money at that point in the game. I never give him a hard time. Now that wiseass lowballer horse fence? I drown him and tell his mute brother to get lost every time. Only witness in the whole game im not concerned with.
It pained me so badly to watch you go full speed with that wagon
I go full speed with my wagon, im super impatient LOL. Why is going full speed bad?
@@firefly_the_rescue9308 Somehow in this game going full speed will damage the wagon especially when you go over bumps
@@WhyWouldiKnow- damage doesn't effect the payout
@@Saiko-RuRu yes it does
If you rob Seamus, will you be able to use his fence still?
Yes..
There was a mission where u steal a wagon with Hosea and take it to the fence he will give you 500 dollars and you split with Hosea bet then when u give him another wagon after the mission he gives u 40
*Beats poor man too the ground*
"Relax my friend nevermind."
*Beats him to the ground again*
"Might wanna be careful there my friend"
Decks him “relax my friend never mind” decks him again 😂
I'm so jealous of people who can aim so well in this game. When I'm on free aim I can't hit anyone
It's not quite free-aim, the sight automatically centers on the nearest target's upper torso when you start aiming, so you can easily headshot an entire group of people by releasing and re-engaging your aim after every shot and just moving the cursor slightly upwards.
@@HungryLoki ik but doesn't he have free aim on, no?
@@user-ji9vl9lg9i no
It's only a matter of practice. I couldn't get used to it either what with the analog controller and in third person, but I found my balance. You will too.
It’s a lot better than gta 5’s free aim. Just increase your sensitivity slightly and be patient. You can’t force a good shot so you have to take your time to wait for it, or engage another target if he’s in a difficult spot behind cover.
Had no idea you could trick the wagon drivers
1:50 Arthur is clearly strong
Wait how do you mislead them, do you have to find a special type of wagon?
It's a side mission..
@@AshwinY oh🗿
@@AshwinY Where do you find that side mission?
@@AshwinY ^ Is it edition specific or something? I've never seen that option/mission before
when old seamus doesn't even appreciate your hardship robbing a goddamn special wagon and just gives 40...............
Honestly the amount he gives is pretty reasonable since selling stolen wagons is gonna be pretty hard to do
1:49 I love you beating him and then cutting to him with bandages on. Seems comedic in a grotesque way
Sheamus money is invicible 😂 it doesn't matter how many wagons that you are going to bringing to him. we can't see his money but we can see his empty hand.
Dude punced him like $40 for a stolen carriage was a bad deal in the 1800s
lol your editing is on point
The best wagons to rob are the oil wagons from Cornwall they go for like $90 I believe and sometimes there is one parked in valentine
So, turns out it didn't matter that I shattered one of the statues, nice
The amount given is actually a fair price. In the old west everything was cheap. I do hate that when you buy a horse it costs $900 dollars but if you sell one its $12. Rockstar's money logic is meased up.
He likes the basic wagons more for some reason. Imo the horse fence guy who bosses around his mute brother is more annoying
If you think about it $40 in 1899 would probably be about the equivalent of $800 today given the current inflation rate. If you just stole some random Honda Civic from a grocery store, a chop-shop owner probably wouldn’t give you much more. I really don’t know for sure, I’ve never stolen cars or dealt with chop-shops, but from what I’ve read they don’t pay much. Maybe they do if you’re bringing in a new Porsche or something - which I actually imagine they might not want with today’s tracking systems, but who knows?
Seamus is basically just a chop-shop owner.
You can crack those devices with special apparature. It's not easy to do or to get it. But believe me it can be done. But was it worth jail... That's the big question.
And they pay decent money even for a Honda civic (especially when it's a sports model ime)
@@Kvs-vf9nt - That’s interesting, sounds like you’re a hobbyist learning these things to deter people stealing your vehicles 😉. I used to know this guy, he wasn’t a friend but my neighbor’s boyfriend (always in and out of county jail). He used to just sit outside grocery stores or liquor stores (in CA grocery stores can sell liquor), or sometimes park in a strip mall in between a grocery store and a liquor store. He said pretty much every morning some drunk would drive there at like 8am when they opened, leave their car running so they could just run in and buy booze really fast and come back out and drive off if anyone noticed. The guy I knew would watch for this, have his girlfriend parked in their car and then run and hop in the car just running with the keys in it and drive it right to a chop shop. He probably got paid before the police even started writing an incident report. And then his girlfriend could just drive home, wait for his call, and pick him up so they could go get their meth and eventually have someone call the cops on them for screaming too loud. Fun times 😂. Ironically that was actually a really nice luxury apartment community, it wasn’t a dump in the ghetto. The girl just had wealthy parents who supported her with everything except for her drug addiction (which she dated losers to keep that supported). It was kind of sad, she was still really beautiful because she was only 21 at the time. She could have done a lot better, unless she stopped I guarantee she’s not so pretty anymore because this was like ten years ago.
At first, i thought you were crazy. Now, i KNOW you're crazy
It has nothing to do with beating anyone up. It's a unique wagon. The only one carrying special antiques. Others that are high quality will always pay you 40
I went slow and stead on that wagon, but Seamus still thought I roughed it up. Still… Pay’s fine.
I tried to bring him a wagon with the machine gun in the back, he wouldn't take it. You'd think that would have been worth a lot of money.
Yeah.. Tried that.. He didn't take it
Why would commit violence against the guy I sell loot and wagons too?
We have a mutually beneficial relationship.
Did you know $40 in 1899 is the equivalent of around $1500 today?
the caption has me dying . i havent even watched yet but i feel this video because seamus be talking madd trash and breaking off small change behind it . its so funny because i have often thought about doing this ...watching now with great anticipation to laugh ... here goes. lol
I sometimes don't understand, that a random plain simple carriage made of plain planks reward me 80 dollars, yet, the actual carriage with red colors and full enclosed carriage only give me just 40 dollars for some reason.
With the prices of wagon, any precious stuffs inside, and bonus of two horses; we should get paid more. 🤨
So why should you always beat Seamus? Just because you can? This last time I did that debt collection in Emerald Ranch I just rode away instead of chasing Seamus down (because by now I knew it was him who was the witness). I got a bounty and even though I never touched him, the next time I saw him he complained how I beat him up last time. That was the one time I should have beat him.
Imagine if Arthur fought in the Civil War omg
He would have been 1 year old in 1864.
Baby cowboy civil war simulator?
After that, Seamus moved to Ireland and became known as the Celtic Warrior
One time a used an explosive shotgun shell and blew off his head and limbs then when I came back he had a bandage on his head and told me that last time we fought he was going easy on me
Why the hell would I beat up Seamus!? Just because the most he gives you is $40!?
I mean, yeah.
@@SaumBodhi dumb reason.
You didn’t have to sock him after the first time now he’s got another concussion
He beat the crap outta me (as Arthur) in the bar in Valentine. Then he had wise remarks about it later. I think it was an Easter Egg.
cap
Seamus is my favorite vendor! Though one time, he refused to pay me for a perfectly good oil wagon.