Here’s how Daihatsu was America’s forgotten Japanese minicar
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In this episode I provide the history of the Daihatsu motor company, which despite being one of Japan's oldest car companies, their imports to the United States only lasted between 1987 and 1992. First with the Hijet mini-truck, followed by the Charade subcompact and the Rocky mini SUV. They were partly owned by Toyota back then, whose own cars sold millions more in the U.S., whereas Daihatsu only sold a few thousand before leaving the market after only 5 years. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I had a '93 Charade, and it was an absolutely wonderful car. Sometimes, it's not the power, speed, or luxury creature comforts that make a great car, it's the memories that it creates, and my Charade delivered those in spades.
Great gas mileage for that car
People get too wrapped up in numbers. Each car has its personality and deserves to be loved for what it is or what it brings to your life. I'd love to drive a Charade, it seems to be the quintessential early 90s japanese econobox!
@@cherkas009 better then most modern cars.
Brave of you to admit that.
It had a big back seat?
During high school in NZ my friend had a modified Charade GTti with the 1.0 3-cyl turbo. The thing was a death trap but insanely fast given how light it was.
Daihatsu produced more sophisticated 3 cylinder motors than the U.S. market got. A few Suzuki G10s were turbocharged for the U.S., but the motor was basically the same 2-valve head as the 55 hp G10. Suzuki ultimately faced the same poor sales as Daihatsu and left the U.S. market. Smaller vehicles became unprofitable, then sedans fell out of favor - except for a few like Corolla. I think regulators will continue to push until even the compact SUVs are unprofitable. Its as if affordable efficient transportation for the masses is targeted for elimination. The $60K Tesla is somewhat popular, but that is not a mass market vehicle.
I almost died in one of those gttis back in 1990 my friend had this car brand new in what was then Yugoslavia and it was one of the faster cars around, we rolled it 4 times on a straight road a deer ran across and we hit a ditch at 110 120 ks and we walked it off.. We thought we were immortal after that but my friend was killed in the war few years later..
@@rikidiki8940That's quite a scary experience💀💀 It's amazing you guys walked away from a serious accident. Life can be unpredictable.
Here in the Philippines, we also had the charade and Rocky(sold as the feroza) in the 90s but also left. They came back in the late 00s as toyota badged models built in Indonesia.
Same in Malaysia where Perodua rebadges Daihatsu and Toyota cars like the Toyota Veloz
I would do anything for a daihatsu copen, one of the cutest cars in the world
those are awesome- as is the nissan figaro
05:17 the tail lights were moved to the bumper because they had to be visible when the tailgate was open. A similar treatment was given to the Grand Vitara, the Pajero, the Land Cruiser Prado...
I've always wanted one of those Daihatsu mini trucks. Great episode, thanks for putting this together!
I drove one that was used for an airline luggage cart truck; mid-eighties.
My niece had a Charade as her first car in the 80's. For it's age (1978) was well speced, cloth trim, head rests, heated rear window, 2 speed wipers plus intermintant, rear wash/wipe radio. Very few cars in NZ came that well speced, esp. even in cars like the Ford Cortina etc
that was the earlier design than the ones in the US. heated rear glass, head restraints and multiple-speed wipers have been required by law here in the US since 1973.
New Daihatsu's are still sold new here but as a Toyota, most of which are made in Indonesia for whatever reason. Daihatsu's had this stigma of being cheap and crappy eco boxes which's probably the reason why they left the local market (and probably other global markets) a while ago.
If it's made in indonesia, quality certainly doesn't come to mind.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 Unfortunately yeah. Ironically, the Hilux (and it's Fortuner brother) are made in south east asia as well instead of Japan.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 my parents own a Daihatsu's Made Toyota, and still run for almost 400000 miles without major break. But the interior quality is very low, even looks very cheap.
@@ranggaajibaskara1809 I see, which Daihatsu/Toyota in Particular?
@@Bahraini_Carguy Toyota Avanza, Made by Astra Daihatsu motor factory
I think that the 1987-94 Charade is one of the nicest looking superminis (or sub compacts) ever made. As well as the turbocharged GTti version sold in the UK, there also was a 1 litre diesel that achieved excellent fuel economy figures. The Mira was called the 'Donimo'. Also, Malaysian car maker Perodua made older versions of Daihatsu models that were also sold in the UK for a time.
Daihatsu quit the UK market in 2011 sadly. It was getting expensive to ship these budget end cars half way around the world. Perodua also quit the UK too around this time.
it was actually the increasingly stricter regulations and the appreciation of the yen to the euro that made them pull the plug- nothing to do with shipping costs.
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Daihatsu are now rare car brand to find in Australia since their withdrawal in 2004-2005, they were usually sold in Toyota dealerships, which probably didn’t help at all.
Most Daihatsu’s I usually see now are usually Terios, Cuore, Applause, Sirion, Charade and Mira, most of them are clapped out these days or actually well looked after despite their lack of value in the second hand market.
Surprisingly, we are still able to import their Kei Cars direct from Japan as they drive on the same side of the road as us Australians, but cause of Mighty Car Mods, getting a Mira now is on the rise.
I love MCM but they sure do have an impact on the car market don’t they
Until this year, I owned a 1988 Charade (the engine bay picture at 4:01 is mine!) and loved it. It only had 57k miles and I was sure that it was the lowest mileage, most pristine Charade in the US.
We took it to a number of car shows and it was always a hit
It was dead reliable, no squeaks and rattles, had an upscale interior that was more Camry than Metro, and looked funky for an 80's econobox. Parts supply was always a challenge and included some fabrication. It was slow as can be and the 52hp engine was the biggest downfall. Fuel economy was amazing but it didn't matter when gas was less than $1.00/gallon
Great little cars that came out at the wrong time!
You owned a very rare vehicle.
I saw a Charade in a salvage yard, it still looked pretty good, it had 350,000 miles on the odometer. Most Americans don't appreciate tiny cars, the increasing costs of federal and state regulations made the cheap car unprofitable to manufacture and sell in the U.S. I've always said - they were safer than a motorcycle, but the little cars didn't get any exemptions.
the 3-cylinder cars shook like hell, compared to the 4-cylinder cars- and they were much slower going uphill.
@@timothykeith1367that was mine- a white 92 3-door with 4-cylinder and 5-speed. it was a great car- it needs the engine freshened and the 1-2 synchros and hub replaced in the trans. i got $85 for it but i paid $5300 for it brand new and drove it those 350K. good value if you do the math. cheers.
These things are all over southeast asia and theyre decent econo-box cars that are surprisingly reliable.. Especially the Rocky. I drove one in Indonesia, and it was perfect for the rough terrain.
I've always wanted to see a video about Daihatsu cars in America, and now here it is! Nice job, and have a merry Christmas!
Maybe sometime down the road, you can look into the history of Opel in the US for a future episode. Opel has a somewhat rich and interesting history in the US, dating back to the 1950's and all the way up to the Cadillac Catera and the present day Buick Regal which I believe is a rebadged Opel Insignia for the US. Keep up the great work! :)
I had a 1969 Kadett. It was the cheapest car I could buy.
The Buick Verano is also an Opel, and the Chevrolet Cruze.
Did you know the PONTIAC GTO of the 2000s is a rebadged HOLDEN coupe? Holden was the Australian version of Opel (and Vauxhall)
@@trentpettit6336 before that, the late 80s Pontiac LeMans is an Opel Kadett, but origin it's a Daewoo.
@@AraceaeFanatics Right… also the CHEVROLET AVEO, SUZUKI VERONA, and SUZUKI FORENZA (which was sold as a Chevy in Canada, but I forget the model name) were all Daewoo cars in disguise!
Toyota should have used Daihatsu to create vehicles to sell here as Scions. They could have continued the Scion xB to this day.
In Asia, Daihatsu has sold versions of the Camry, the second gen bB and second gen xB, and models based on the same platform and/or mechanicals as the xA and xD.
@@matthewbowen5841 You're right. Daihatsu has sold versions of the Camry and Scion xB. Which is why I said that Daihatsu should have been used to keep Scion alive.
Toyota could bring the Rocky back over and replace its fugly mini crossover.
Boy, imagine a Scion Copen...
@@ytfisthisathing I thought about that too. It would have been an interesting image model. Maybe a Miata challenger.
I've always thought the Rocky was a good looking SUV. To bad the company couldn't make an impact here in the States beyond the Hijet. Maybe Toyota didn't want the competition so they purposely held Daihatsu down...
Kind of like how Toyota/Subaru don't give the FR-S/86/BRZ more power and AWD so it won't take sales away from the Supra and WRX.
Yeah I also think that Toyota did little to boost Daihatsu sales on order to not risk them outselling their own cars. In some countries, Daihatsu cars are also sold as rebadged Toyotas.
Toyota is slowly ruining Subarus reputation with their cost cutting and rebranding.
they make plenty of 'impact' here with their cars- ever seen scion Xa's, Xb's, or TC's? daihatsu made/makes a lot of them.
@@Noah_E the frs is produced by subaru and daihatsu for toyota
Great vid on a great car company. I'm German, and I miss Daihatsu - they've always had rather cute, original designs that were Japanese oddity at its best. I would have loved to own a Feroza (as the Rugger ewas called in Europe as well), a Terios or a Trevis. But one of the reasons why they failed in Europe is that they never had a good dealership network here as many Daihatsu dealerships were small, unattractive backyard garages. I never understood why they didn't make more of their ties with Toyota and sold their cars through Toyota dealerships as well, that would certainly have helped boost sales.
toyota wasn't interested in competing with daihatsu- thats why they bought them...
My neighbor had a Rocky when I was in my late teens. I fell in love with it then and have been hunting one ever since. I have owned many Vitaras and Trackers, but I still haven't found a Rocky.
theyre hard to find cuz a lot of guys roll them over
I actually didn't know Daihatsu sold in The USA! and don't think I ever saw one in person either. I'd like to see an episode on Peugeot sometime. Thanks.
I have seen both the Charade and Rocky in my lifetime. When I was going to the University of Memphis, I saw plenty of Daihatsu Hijet trucks.
The Rocky was actually a great little truck and amazing offroad! A few friends have had em. And me in a giant Suburban, yep, it was little easier for them to go places ha ha.
its a military design that we helped tool them up for after the War.
My dad had a awd Toyota previa. He sold it with 400000 miles. Never needed anything except regular maintenance. Truly amazing vehicle
82 Toyota Celica trunk model, I had one of those cars for almost 10 years one of the peppiest little cars I've ever had very nice ride. Thanks I look forward to seeing the episode. LOL
Kei cars, what a contrast to the big cars we are made used to.
I drove both the Charade and the Rocky, amazing ! cars for their price.
Too bad they don't exist any more in my country.
The Charade GTti was the first production car to break 100bhp per litre from its screaming little turbo triple. Also the fastest 1litre car at the time. Way before any ford or VW.
Ngl i'd love to own one of these today. Just imagine the potential such a pocket rocket has in the bends
@@chaospxl_ its just a nose-heavy econobox in regards to cornering.
I still own a 1989 Daihatsu Feroza, which I swapped the engine to a 2.0 Mazda RF diesel engine. Excellent mileage therefore. With BF Goodrich AT tires, I go everywhere. Desert, mountain, sand.
Great video. I love Daihatsu, my uncle used to run a dealership before they left Europe. The Feroza over here was the same car as the US Rocky, by the way. We also got the original larger Rocky here from 1984 onwards and it was also called Rocky here.
I've heard that a dedicated network of Rocky fans support the little SUV, and that Rock Auto has many parts for them. Other than head gasket failures they are pretty dependable, but Rocky owners must be more actively involved in the repair and maintenance - at least in the U.S.
@@timothykeith1367 a head-gasket failure is a serious problem in an all-aluminum motor- so they are NOT dependable with that little HC motor- they are good for motor swaps and the best ones i've seen are charade 1.3's and the nissan 200SX ca-series motors.
My first car, and the only car I've ever loved enough to give a name, was a 1987 Volkswagen Fox GL trim 2-door wagon in alpine white. It was made in Brazil and imported to slot below the Jetta and Golf. It had manual steering, front disc brakes, 91 horsepower and a 4-speed manual transmission. It obviously accelerated more like a racoon than a fox, but it was so much fun to drive and being small and light, 91 horsepower felt stronger than you'd think. The steering had no play in it and was so communicative and confidence-inspiring. Paired with a super-tossable suspension it convinced me to perform a number of stupidly fun and life-threatening stunts behind the wheel during my teens. But, even after running through my friend's dad's split rail fence after one such maneuver, it drove away without a ding. It was a little tank. It never gets any love --- would love to have you feature it one of these days. It's name was Marcel, after the french artist Marcel Duchamp. I had "Duchamp" on my license plate and when I would park it in a teacher's spot in the high school parking lot because I was running late for class, the dumbwitted school secretary's voice would sound out over the PA system during first period -- "Would the owner of the car with the license plate "Douche-Champ" move your car please." Good times. germancarsforsaleblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/412.jpg
How about the AMC Eagle? I know you did AMC in the 80s but how about the 70s? Eagle, Conord, Spirit.
That would be very cool good suggestion
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@@nathanjoseph4284 Still need Concrod/Spirit.
It would be cool if you did a video on the Honda Odyssey, specifically the second gen.
They used to be everywhere but now (probably because of their transmissions) I hardly ever see one on the road.
The 2nd gen Odyssey is so cool
all i want for christmas is a video on the volkswagen fox
Wait a minute. Was the Volkswagen Fox even in America?
@@MinecraftPro97k that's a different Fox, look up 1987-1992 VW Fox
Oh yes,the proud Brazillian car. We had it as the VW Voyage and it was the sedan version of the VW Gol(a brazillian-developed project to replace the VW Beetle,here called the Fusca,inspired by the european Golf/Rabbit). Also the Wagon version was called the Parati(the name of a city in Brazil) here. Gol production ended this year alongside the Voyage/Fox due to declining demand as the niche the Gol had was filled by the european Polo/Virtus(aka the Polo Sedan). The Fox Wagon/Parati ended production in 2013 alongside the 2nd gen VW Bus(known here as the Kombi) due to obligatory dual airbags and ABS that would be required the next year alongside the demand for wagons was declining here.
The Saveiro(pickup version) which was based on the Gol,has a loyal customer base here,so much so in 2018 they made a facelift to separate it from the Gol and still remains in production amidst the threat of a replacement based on the MQB A0 chassis which the Polo is built upon being released in the next 3-4 years.
@@MinecraftPro97k - when those Brazilian-made VW Fox were sold in US as sedans and 3-door wagons they (just like the Daihatsu Rocky in this video) never came to US with an automatic tranny, just a 4-speed manual.
Suspect the former (by then) generation of the Audi 80 (Audi Fox then in US) was the basis for the Voyage / Gol / Parati for Brazil that became base for the VW Fox).
@@syxepop no automatic your right but they also had a 5 speed manual. I had the 87 wagon. It was slow and would get 25-30 mpg. Wish mine had a/c. Later a/c was standard in the 2 and 4 door sedans but after the wagon was imported. Cheapest car for around $10K that had standard a/c. Was a sharp looking little practical car. Too bad it didn't have a transverse engine like the Rabbit, instead it was longitudinal like a Dasher. More parts would have been available for it! Would have been great to put in a Rabbit GTI engine in it!
Daihatsu sold two SUV's in Australia during this time, the smaller Feroza and larger Rocky. The Rocky that was sold in Australia, was the larger version of the smaller US Rocky, while the smaller version carried the Feroza name. The larger Rocky was also offered as a Ute in Australia, which sold in smaller numbers, but were popular with farmers who loved their reliability.
Great video! Thanks
A few days ago a car I remember from the '80s I later drove in the '90s came to mind. The 198x Isuzu I-Mark / Chevy Spectrum. My neighbors mom had a spectrum and I later drove a 1989-90 I-Mark turbo sedan, 5-spd. That was a fun little car!
I remember a parts salesman telling me those cars fell off the map when parts were becoming scarce and costly; $1000 for cv axles. That's what he said.
Thanks for another great video . Can’t wait for the conquest /starion episode
Peugeot in the US please!
Ive been looking forward to this all week
Thank you for posting on the holiday and for all your posts in general. I very much look forward to your new episodes and admittedly have watched them all twice, lol.
Such a cool channel. Born early 70's, it brings back so many memories. Thanks!
Thanks for making this! Very interesting video.
I would love to see an episode on the Toyota Tercel
They rebuilt a Hijet on an episode of Pimp My Ride. That was one of my favorite rebuilds
Thanks for the content on Christmas
Great work Sir thank you
This was a very well researched video most people forgot about daihatsu i definitely learned a couple new things
Awesome still making videos!!
Love them - interesting and you’re very informative with your content
Great video!
Great video!
I remember Daihatsu back in the day, it's a shame some import car manufacturers just couldn't survive in the USA.
Another great video once again. 😀👍
Watching every week!
Awesome info! 😎
Awesome channel. Can we see Geo Metro in the future and maybe the Ford Zephyr ? My Dad had a 1980 Zephyr it was a boat with 4 cylinders. My brother and I would rock back and forth in the seats to help Dad get up the hill, sometimes he failed lol again great video.
Can i just say. I just stumbled upon this channel. And I’m in my mid 20s so I don’t remember most of these cars…. But I’m addicted to these videos. Very well done 👍🏽
Great video
Another excellent job! I just love this channel! Please cover the mini truck craze. From the courier and mikado to the nissans and Toyotas. The s-10 and ranger and the odd duck the dodge Dakota. Halfway between full size and compact. What an amazing show that would be. I can’t wait for the next episode from this channel!
First time I visited the Dominican Republic in 2005, I saw them everywhere and was so fascinated by them. Couldn’t I had never heard of them before!
Another great and informative video. I see that there was a mention of the Suzuki Samurai, and I am curious to know more about that particular model.
Great video. Thanks. Would you consider doing a video on the Nissan Maxima? You will find this model has quite a rich history as well. Thanks again.
The first time I saw a Daihatsu was in the first episode of MTVs "Pimp My Ride". It was a 1988 Hijet van.
one of the best episodes! lol
My mum had a 1991 Charade 1.0 turbo diesel. A rare sight here too, in the UK, even in the mid 90's. Driven carefully, almost 70mpg was possible - something today's most frugal hatches can only dream about. Progress, eh?
70 mpg with UK gallons?
Wow 70 imperial gallons = 84 US gallons
Daihatsu tocot is their current hatchack
I have very hazy 80's memories of this car. Thanks for getting some of the fog out. I love the videos like this on obscure stuff.
My business partner had a Rocky in the ‘90s and early ‘00s. That was a fun little rig.
Daihatsu is still going in Japan! Every time I go out to town i at least see over 15 daihatsu cars.
'88 Volvo 240DL Station Wagon! My first car was bought brand new by my parents when we lived in Germany. I started driving it in 1997 and drove it through 2010
In Europe, we also got a version of the F300 Rocky/Feroza with a 1.6 liter BMW M40 engine as the Bertone Freeclimber II. The bigger F70/F80 Rocky/Rugger was also sold as the Bertone Freeclimber, with a choice of three BMW engines between 2.0 and 2.7 liters.
My dad owned a 1982 Daihatsu Charmant when we briefly lived outside the US. Little did I know those would become classic drift cars decades later.
The late 80s, early 90s charade is common here in New Zealand. I’ve driven several of them but never come across the 3 cylinder turbo one. Reminds me of the Honda city turbo. Those things are wild. Might make a good episode?
the four-cylinder ones are faster and with the right parts you can build a 1.6 liter engine for your G102 charade.
I own a 91 Rocky SE with the AWD option. I bought it from the original owner in 2017, and it has been a surprisingly good little truck. it's slower than molasses in the winter time, and damn, finding specific parts for it can be a challenge, although not impossible. Most of them just have to be bought from sellers in Indonesia, where there are apparently tons of these.
Yes!! Yes!! I know I was bugging but THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!
Should do a video on the Toyota T100 pickup. I never heard of it until the one I bought this summer came up for sale.
Who ever owns the white mint condition Daihatsu Charade with the light blue LED lights driving around north LAX, you’re the real MVP.
there are probably still hundreds of those things running around LA- a lot of 91s and 92s were white.
Too bad there wasn’t available the Daihatsu Applause in the US, it was both nice and cute (and good) car.
my uncle still has his red Charade hatchback it was wrecked back in '93 from racing on country roads in rural central Texas...he still has it but sitting in a field just rotting away.
Great video.
Would like to see a video on the Mercury Capri.
Cool 😀 I always liked the Charade and the Rocky
A very good video sir. Many years ago I did work for a Mazda dealership in suburban Detriot. It was about 1988 and all of the major Japanese car companies were creating their luxury car brands. When I went into the dealership one day there was a model I had not seen before the 929, I forgot what the car company name was going to be called. It was a very sharp car but it did not last. Would your possibly consider doing a review of this car and why Mazda didn't go forward with it. Thankyou for the great videos, I love cars and automotive history. Lance
Daihatsu was the first Japanese maker to sell cars in the UK. The blue Compagno (CGH8B) still exists today.
Love this trip down memory lane. I loved the Rocky.
Can we get a video of the VW Dasher, Corrado or Scirocco?
Perhaps the most desirable Daihatsu was the one they didn't make: The Charade De Tomaso 926R, a turbocharged, mid-engine version of the previous generation Charade intended for Group B rally competition.
Another great video but would love to see an episode about the Honda CRX please and thank you:)
I just realized I confused the charade for the Isuzu Stylus more than once.
Geez two great classics ... lol
Wonderful video thanks 👍
THOSE LITTLE i-mark diesels were incredible and so were the nissan sentra MPG diesels.
good video, reminds me of my 89 subaru justy
Totally forgot about Daihatsu myself (just blended in with the South Korean companies that were coming to the US at the time). We had a couple of Charade's in our rental fleet and they were actually pretty forgettable (which is probably a good thing compared to the first Hyandai's we got which were all junk).
only the 1986 hyundai excels were built by mitsubishi of japan- you must have had 87-89 models which were horrendous by comparison.
Would appreciate a vid on Mazda Cosmo 110s, followed by;
R100, RX2, RX3, RX4, RX5
Great vids, best wishes. ;)
Thank you . another great video . I want you to do one on the Ford Fairmont / Mercury Zephyr but I didn't want to nag ya . LOL Merry Christmas.....
I was in the Marines. Stationed at Camp Pendleton"s Skid Row (Then the nickname for the base's airstrip) and we had Hijets there to run Helo parts between the squadrons
My first car, 1989 charade purchase from Steve Taub Porsche in Santa Monica. I spent more money and got the four-cylinder. I miss that car so much.
YES!!YES!!YES!!!! MY COUSIN HAD A ROCKY THAT I LOVED!!
Please do an episode on the Volkswagen Cabriolet/Rabbit Convertible. That car had a really long run (1981-1993) and anyone raised in the 80s will surely remember that icon. Fun times! I had a ‘91 and absolutely loved it.
those are fun to smoke in a four-cylinder>MT charade- VW owners HATE that....
Great story on Daihatsu! I have an idea for a future episode: Daewoo
man I always wanted to see this. I'm glad I could help with the information because all of it is accurate lol. I would kill for a Daihatsu Hijet deck van
Merry Christmas 🎄
Great episode as always. I nominate Peugeot for your next one!
I remember the Daihatsu HiJet. It was so common on the University of Memphis campus. I would only consider the Charade sedan with a four cylinder engine and an automatic transmission.
The University where I was employed had a fleet of those HiJets. They were fun to drive. Mostly driven by University maintenance department. And custodial.
Remember seeing the Charade here in America when i was a kid, still never saw a Rocky other than magazine ads.
My Old Car really takes you back. Jason Camissa's show has nothing on this for nostalgic warmth!!
Good video! It would be nice to do one for the Toyota Tercel, Echo, and Yaris.
I remember there being a specific place to service/buy Daihatsu Rocky’s in the PNW, it was on like one of the islands in Washington.
The 2nd gen Charade also had a 1.0L 3 cylinder Turbo Diesel engine
Wow. I don't recall the diesel being available in the U.S.. I'd like to swap a diesel into a Geo Metro, but most industrial and agricultural diesels in the U.S. aren't well suited for automobiles.
@@timothykeith1367 Well, if the diesels are naturally-aspirated, then they are usually terrible. A turbo-diesel should do the trick.
The Rocky and the charade GTTi turbo and the Hijet van are my favorite ones.
the gti's shook like hell and were slower than the 4-cylinder MT charades. but those are really hard to find now.
You need to do an episode on the foxbody mustang of the eighties and nineties. This car restarted the muscle car wars and saved the mustang.