Lab Diamond Certificates GIA vs IGI, learn what is the best diamond
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I learned something really helpful and you did such a good job of explaining everything thank you so much
This video was super helpful! Thank you for breaking it down so well.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the clear information.
Just want to give you a shoutout I bought my diamond after a lot of research and watching your videos. Very helpful, got a great stone and a price I felt good about.
Great Job Michael, glad I could help.
Great video! I would love to see other reviews on other reputable online stores that provide lab diamonds other than James Allan.
Thanks Osiris subbed.
Appreciate it !
Great Video!
I really appreciate people like yourself because you have the experience in this industry to share your knowledge with everyone who wants to clarify the difference between IGI and GIA laboratories.Great information my friend.
Happy to help Alfred! Thanks for the kind words.
My engagement ring center stone is a 1.65 carat Marquis diamond. I went with an art deco setting, with IGI certified lab diamonds on the whole ring. Because I am one of those people who doesn’t want a natural diamond due to my devotion to marine conservation and human rights. Natural diamond mining isn’t good for the planet. My Marquis diamond came from Brilliant Earth. It cost 5,000.00 and is IGI certified. It’s beautiful! It lists on the certificate that it is VVS1, 1.65 Ct weight, color is G. I couldn’t be more happy with it. Because it is beautiful, has no visible flaws or bow tie effect, and is conflict free. I also wanted one that is not colorless and G is perfect because it is “nearly colorless” but doesn’t feel so “cold” as a colorless diamond does. I am not fond of the “ice” look on colorless diamonds. I like a little bit of warmth. When I lived in England, pretty much all diamond jewelry was IGI certified. I’ve compared my diamond to GIA of equal grading and it’s the same. The cut quality of my center stone is phenomenal, it sparkles beautifully even in dull indoor daylight.
Congrats Holly, Happy to hear you are happy with your diamond!
How did your engagement ring experience actually take place? Did you and your partner go shopping after he proposed and then spec out the engagement ring like you described?
Thanks i went and got a 8ct solitaire diamond ring thanks for your help
Very interesting video.
Amazing video dude
Thanks Nate!
A review comparing GCAL to igi and gia for labs would be awesome.
vs EGL which is what my ins company used to replace my cracked diamond
I love all the great information you have provided to me.... You are quite entertaining also which is a bonus. On a more serious note; I would like to learn the value of True Hearts cut diamonds. I am going to purchase a 2.5 carat Lab diamond and want to know if I should consider the True Hearts collection or not.
Thanks.
Wow, thank you! I love true hearts, in terms of value, they are the best priced premium cut. This is what I tell my clients. The diamond game is one of slights. The difference between I and H or VS2 or VS1 is so little. Eventually, it may become perceptible. but from each step up, its nominal. Light return is something more noticeable. A premium cut is slightly better in light performance. In the end it makes the strongest impact outside of carat size.
Hey Big O…can you make a video on men’s wedding bands. You cover such great information on the women’s side of things. Can you show some love to the men.
Thank you for doing this. Communications takes us a long way and getting free diamond expert advise means a lot.
You are appreciated. I would love for you to extend to diamond bracelets , ear rings etc.
Keep being honest and God’s blessings will come
Thanks for the kind words Ozzie. I appreciate that.
@@OsirisDiamonds What would you consider as the perfect combination of clarity, carat, color and cut for around $12-16,000? She wants a simple setting with a large rock with 2 smaller rocks around it in white gold. I have been checking out around 2.5-3.5 lab growns.
Oval shape
Just bought a lab Diamond and it is graded by GCAL. And it is an 8X 😊
GCAL is used for LAbs, they have a great cut performance tests. For example, for naturals, they tend o have a GIA and a GCAL for cut. Great job on the 8x cut
Could you make a video about diamond BGM (brown, grey/green, milky). Awesome channel!
@ThatGuyOsiris First, thank you so much for your videos and recommendations. You’re extremely helpful. Can you tell me what a 1.3 ct , G, SI2, P:EX, S:EX, GIA, Natural, Shape: BR should cost me? Could you recommend a few stones that’s close to this criteria? Also, I’m thinking of Verragio at the ring setting. Any thoughts on this as well?
Do you have a detailed video on diamond cut explaining fire, brilliance and sparkle as well H&As?
Just got my lab created diamonds from Pandora, did a review video of them and everything. The .5 ct diamonds I got have IGI certificates
Hello Mr. Osiris! I have a question for you! I am looking for 0.7ct lab diamond D color VVS1, Ideal cut. Ritani offers IGI certified diamonds for 316$ while prices at James Allen start from 800$ for the exact same diamonds also IGI certified. Are there any major differences since they are pretty much the same? Should I overpay for James Allen, or can I go with Ritani?
Sincerely looking forward to your response!
So Great nice to your Video Sir I see thanks God
Hello, your video is very helpful.
Is a lab created diamond: H/Excellent/VVS2 a decent diamond? Also it’s GIA….. I purchased it and I’m wondering if I should have bought IGI….thanks
Hi Osiris--I'm wondering about the actual process of getting a diamond ring evaluated by GIA or IGI. I'm guessing there is an address you have to send it to (registered mail) and then it gets inspected by a person and sent back to you??? How can I be sure my diamond won't get removed and replaced with a lesser quality one in the process? Is it just a matter of trust (of a person I do not know)? Thanks so much if you answer this:)
Hi I’m thinking of buying a lab diamond. Would the James Allen site be a good one ? Which site would be best ?
Hi! Thanks so much for your videos I’ve learned a lot - I notice that most of the IGI lab diamonds on James Allen don’t have an inclusion diagram as part of the IGI certificate. Would you still be comfortable buying a diamond without seeing the inclusion certificate (I’m looking at VVS1 clarity)?
Most important is the visual confirmation that your diamond is eye clean. This 20x magnification is key. A vvvs1 needs a microscope to see flaws. I would be 100% comfortable not seeing a diamond plot on a stone like this.
@@OsirisDiamonds thanks very much for the great advice! Appreciate your help 😀
If you were going to buy a lab grown diamond that is 1.5ct or higher, D, VVS2 or higher, and best cut possible. Would you say at that point it doesn't matter too much if it's GIA or IGI certified? Or if it does matter and both are available, which certification would you choose?
Do you have experience with With Clarity? Says IGI certified but never heard of them. Curious to hear your thoughts.
IGI also grade natural diamonds, not only GIA! Any support document says GIA is better than IGI ? Kindly advise
I’m not an expert however, I liked your video as I found the information perfectly adjusted to people like me.
Glad it was helpful!
Hello, since there are many quality parameters, what would be the minimum quality to invest in a round diamond that you recommend. thank you
I am looking for 2.5ct round and maybe 2.7 cushion cut f color super ideal cut do u have anything fitting these parameters? Ty
You should do a video on salt and pepper diamonds and who is a reputable source for them.
Hello, I have never heard of them. I assuming they are heavily included diamonds that have many clarity flaws. I assume thats the only way to see pepper in them.
I've lost my certification for my stones, how do you recommend getting it or the gradings back
Would
Love to get some help with a purchase , and your opinion I
Looking at rose gold , 1ct pear but the setting I want is only at brilliant earth? What is ur opinion
I learned a lot from you information about diamonds mined and man made would you say the half carat round brilliant solitaire I picked with 5.13mm diameter and excellent symmetry for size 6 finger is good choice
Thanks Dominique for supporting the channel. There are too many variables to grade diamonds. diameter being of the least importance.
@That Guy Osiris do you know anything about black diamonds as my lady wants me to wear wedding band with black diamonds
“Industry standard is IGI”
It depends on what your definition of standard is. I wouldn’t say because someone has the market share they are the “standard”. As you acknowledged GIA have tighter tolerances, which in many uses of the word would be the “standard”
Reviewed on internet a few years back that IGI legal case against them for upgrading the color of the lab grown diamond, now I like to know as you stated this practice is still going on, how can IGI be illegally stating on the IGI certification of a color if that isn't the true color? How can IGI as you stated then fausalfy and over charge the consumer who reads the IGI report online pays for a lab grown diamond and as you stated gets 1 color done graded? Frustrated by this, we purchased a 3.34 lab grown asscher diamond, F in color and VVS, now I am concerned we received a G in color and over paid?
I just purchased and IGI lab 3.19ct princess G color VS1 excellent cut but I wasn’t aware they were off by one on clarity and color. I won’t be able to see it in person until Monday so now I’m kinda nervous. This was super helpful tho!
How does it look?
How is it?
@@WantedKi1ler surprisingly good! I just uploaded a short with it the other day if you wanted to see :)
@@Kkkk-iw7pt it’s gorgeous! Came as a 3.22ct tho so that was weird but the other specs matched up. There’s a short on my page I just uploaded a couple days ago if you wanted to see it! I shockingly dont see color on the stone at all!
I’m looking to buy a 2 carat cushion cut lab, can you show me which on would be the best to buy
Hello, @That Guy Osiris
Your videos have been of immense help for me and my understanding of diamonds!
I’ve sent you an email with some questions regarding a specific project!
Thank you for your time and dedication!! ^.^
quick question how long did you have to wait for a response?
Makes no sense to spend a price tag of a car on a stone , i have natural diamonds , and i just started getting into moissanite They last forever they shine brighter passes the diamond tester and professional jewelers cant tell by the naked eye save yourself college tuition prices and go moissanite
@@alexx_windycitychi558 I heard that moissanite gets cloudy after awhile ?
Great video bro my current situation is as follows IGI 2ct E VVS1 Both Radiant rectangular modified vs GIA 1.52 D VVS2 the GIA $4,800 the IGI $4,647 help please
I was find out how to make lab diamonds.. for the past 3 yrs I just been thinking about getting into diamond trade.. were do I start
I felt so extremely uncomfortable that I had to smash the like button 😂 love the reverse psychology.
How dare you!
Is GSI diamond certificate good for a Lab Grow Diamond ?
Certified 100% aluminum from Alcoe (Aluminum Company of Excellence).
Do I have to travel to a place to find my own diamonds.
Thanks for the video - I am a little beside myself. I purchased diamond studs from Brilliant Earth and they sent them with no GIA or IGI report. Should I have gotten one? If they tell me there's simply no report, how can I authenticate the purchase? What is your next step if you're outside of their return policy at this point? Did I just get hosed? :/
Some offerings come with no cert. They are typically a little less money. To be frank, most stores selling earrings are uncertified. Then you have custom offers were you get earrings that come with certs. Price goes up a bit as the grades are proven.
Question : What is your view on inclusions? Everyone looks for eye clean diamond (lab/earthed). Have heard a view that inclusions creates a unique/personal signature making it know to be yours. Can inclusions ruin/degrade a diamonds overall sparkle/brilliance?
Nothing wrong with inclusions as long as it doesn't effect the diamond beauty. That saying is used by people selling lower clarity, it sounds special. Regardless of clarity, I1 or VVS1 the diamond is unique like a finger print. Si1 are my fav as they are safe in regard to not effecting diamond brilliance.
@@OsirisDiamonds what is your website!?
I have a black dimond how can i test it or get certification
Sir I need to your help for my diamond to how sale this my dimond
After painfully sit through your clumsy video, let me summarize it into a sentence. For lab diamonds there are many more IGI certified than GIA certified, so it is ok to use IGI certification for lab diamonds.
Who hurt you bro?! Thanks for the sweet comment and for your expert opinion, next time i'll put so much more effort to impress you. Better yet, I will do a one sentence video for you.
@@OsirisDiamondsJesus, this comment makes you come off as the one who is sensitive.
@@mattm3344 It was a playful tone. Texts can often be misconstrued. I get weird negative comments often and always try to respond.
cannot ship to indonesia ?
How mush per cts sir?
We went to a jewelry store here that has many customers. For my birthday I built a Diamond necklace by choosing the Diamond, basket, chain, etc. for the Diamond she said they had GIA but if I wanted to get the same Diamond I chose with GIA certificate I’d have to pay a lot more so we just went with the Diamond with no certificate….would it be safe to do this with engagement rings also?
That's very common in diamond necklaces. Truth is, they are mostly lower-quality goods used in necklaces. If the diamond quality is desired, its good to buy certified so you know its qualities. Not just to know the clarity and color but know the diamond depth and table percentages etc.
@@OsirisDiamonds oh I see!! Thank you so much!
Have you ever heard of GRA?
What is Gcal certification?
james allen VS brillinace im filtering the very same specs and brilliance is coming up much cheaper and for the most part I would say as far as filters are concerned im filtering both websites with the same specs so why is james allen coming out more expensive ? the only difference i can tell between the two are the facet dimensions and most of brillance stones are CVD and james allen is HPHT what do you reccomend i do ? im looking for a F, VS1, 2ct, Super ideal diamond with no Fluorescence. what do you recommend ?
Hi Angelo, thanks for the comment. Sometimes CVD stones can have a grey tone and be on heavy discount. Hard to say. You can email me the links so I can see the stones.
@@OsirisDiamonds where can I find your email ? sorry
@@DroppedGoat69 in the description box. Infodiamondcity@gmail.com
@@OsirisDiamonds emailed you thanks
Can I ask about Gia diamond? Do you ever see fake Gia diamond? They can do fake number inside the diamond and match number Gia certificate ? Oh no way they can’t do fake like that ?
Thank you!
Is it possible to have GIA Certified diamond without laser inscription?
Hi! No all GIA diamonds come with inscription.
Osiris, I want to challenge you yo an arm wrestling match, what's our weight class?
Can someone please tell me why I paid $24k for G color VS1 lab. Was I just completely ripped off????
Depends, if its a massive well cut diamond then no. The natural equivalent would be 100,000. In that case no.
Can you review Jannpaul diamonds?
I'd love for Osiris to do a review on JannPaul as well. I'm thinking of visiting Singapore. Just joking. Their rings look awesome!
@@robindick2802 yes i think so too, i really love their videos, I want a review from osiris to know if theyre really as good
@khalidgamal5418 One can only hope for a review and I love JannPaul's videos as well.
Diamonds r a gals best friend
So I hear 😝
Your 17K IGI as a over paid 2ct is a VVS2 .... 17k for 2 grades up would seem fair
Confusing
The term “certificate”is a misnomer. They are actually “Diamond Reports”. I don’t believe that any lab actually certifies a Diamond. They just report what they have observed.
LGDs have no production restraints and are steadily dropping in market price. Pretty is not the same as valuable in LGD whereas in natural diamonds it is rare.
I find the lab diamonds to be much bigger and shinier. It’s absolutely crazy.
IGI is not the standard unless by standard you mean something else. GIA goes through more rigorous testing of the diamond then IGI. So this video is confusing
Why isn’t a lab diamond perfect 😊
Anyone should know that diamonds are worthless as dirt lab diamonds are worthless also take a certified stone u pay 8k try and sell it 3500
ALL gemologists (at all institutes) are required to use a 10x magnifier when grading natural diamonds to produce certificates.....
Pro-Tip: When it gets to the to the retail/wholesale level, the purchaser may use a 30X magnifier to find imperfections the gemologist miss.
So educate yourself and buy a magnifier for stones, educate yourself and happy shopping.
I have seen EGL and AGS diamonds rated lower than it should be, and "should" be valued more than a GIA diamond...
Edit add:. The diamond industry is beyond what I thought of before becoming an "honourary " gemologist. 😂 Basically GIA certificates are a "consumers" diamond... Anything less, is a "sellers" diamond..
Edit add 2:. I've seen insurance companies value EGL AGS diamonds more than a GIA!
Can you give a tip or link to buy a earrings? Thanks
You’re smoking crack if you pay 17k for J colored lab diamond VS anything.
lmao indeeed.