Yes I have a Dietz little wizard lantern with a red globe & a clear globe with a W.T. kirkman hooded reflector that I ordered from W.T. kirkman lanterns & works awesome! Great lantern! 👍👍
@@GuntersGarage you are welcome & great video! Indeed yes & very nice lanterns for sure! 👍👍 Yup W.T. kirkman lanterns has awesome lantern supplies & parts! Even got new burners, wicks & globes for my pair of Dietz comets from W.T. kirkman lanterns! 🙂👍
That’s interesting, I wonder is it all red Dietz globes that are susceptible or was it just a particular run of manufacture. It would be good to hear from a few owners in order to kinda quantify the number of globes that get this glass cancer.
I have over 130 kerosene lamps and lanterns in my collection. One is a 1909 Dietz top lift D-Lite with the small 9/16'' fuel cap. It has a red globe and appears to be vintage and does not have and glass cancer. I suspect the globes that started out clear and were flash coated with the color are subject to problems. Many of my colored globes are solid color glass. The old PG&E gold lantern at 2:20 in the attached video is flash coated red. The camera makes it look pink until it gets near the clear ''peep hole'' of clear spot of non flash coated glass. It has a frosted light appearance as compared to the solid red globe in the Deitz 100 next to it. 100 designates the approximate run time. The wick is a tiny 3/8'' wide one and it needs a special key to adjust the wick...making it tamper proof. czcams.com/video/Qfdk97vZXrk/video.html
I love the red globes! But I’m sorry to hear they don’t fare so well once they’re used. I appreciate you sharing that information. Happy Fire Friday! 🔥
Its a roll of the dice I guess. Ive known folks to light the old red ones and have no issues. I guess its a common problem but not a problem to all the old ones. Now that I know I wont chance it. Thanks for watching :)
I have 2 that are literally at arms reach. Most know the reason for the red globe is for stop or emergency for railroad operators but did you know the red globe is good for hunting Night Crawlers as the red light doesn't drive them into the ground like white will?
No I didnt know that. Helluva tip, thanks! The red was also used for construction or general caution like a flare. I know cabooses could have a red lantern on back and some horse drawn buggies on back too. I just like the ambiance sometimes. I'll be honest I didnt know night crawlers were driven into the ground by white light.
Did not know this. Going to light mine up and see what happens. The numbers on the right side tube. They are really really tiny aren't they? I have a No'150 Little Supreme and a Little Wizard, both stamped "City of Baltimore". I assumed they were both US made old ones. One has numbers, one does not. The fuel caps are also different diameters. Is the cap diameter also an indication of age/country of manufacture?
Good stuff! The one with numbers if I remember correctly is USA made. From what I recall when they went overseas is when they stopped putting the dates on. Yes they are tiny and not stamped very deeply either. The fuel cap size I believe is age and model specific.
I’m actually shopping for a replacement globe for a lantern I just bought off eBay. My lantern had the old style red globe. Unfortunately it cracked after removing it from the lantern. I’m still bummed over that. :( Anyway, it sounds like the new style red globe is the safer bet for burning. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you liked it. If you have an old red globe in like new condition Id use it for display and just buy a new red one. But if it already has blemishes then Id light it and enjoy it. I'll put a link below where you can buy lantern parts. I find parts and supplies between ebay, antique shops, flea markets and lantern net. lanternnet.com/
@@GuntersGarage Hey. Just a quick update. I really didn’t want to give up on that broken ruby red globe that I have. So I searched for epoxies that may work. I decided to give Permatex 500 high heat epoxy a shot. Supposedly works for glass and rated for 500 degrees F. Anyway, I burned several hours since repairing and it’s still holding, and the crack doesn’t show too much. I’ll see how long it lasts. I already bought a replacement clear globe for it in case it fails.
@@jasper60103 good to know, thanks for the info. I used super glue on a crack once. Idk of it did any good or not. Sure stink something terrible when I lit it tho.
The Little Wizard I picked up at the flea market is white. Can I assume it's been spray painted?? If so, what's the safest way to remove this spray paint so I can get down to the original color but not damage the original paint ???
Im not an expert on lanterns but in my experience most of the Little Wizards were metallic blue or Japan Blue I think the color was called. I believe older versions may have been black or even red, not certain on that. As for getting to the original color that will be tricky. The original coating is most likely tougher than the spray painted top layer. However its old so be careful. Ive had success in the past removing spray paint top coats with scotch brite or fine grit sand paper around 300 grit or so. Once I started seeing the bottom color showing through I stopped sanding and wash it up good. Then I went to a chemical adhesive remover no particular reason for that other than it was what I had on hand less likely to eat the bottom layer than acetone. Coleman fuel is as effective adhesive remover as what I used. Its cheaper too. Just take your time and watch whats happening. May not come out perfect and that could be a good thing, gives it character. Hope this helps, good luck with it.
My Hong Kong little wizard has “Hong Kong” stamped Ins ton the bottom of it. I think yours both say N.Y. They moved the factory to China at some point. The newer colored globes are “flashed”, I think they are clear glass with a red coating on the outside, pretty cheesy. I have some vintage red globes buy have never lit them, you can tell the glass itself is red. I may not lite them after seeing this.
I read on a forum it can be hit or miss with the red glass and the breakdown. They said if you do light one keep the flame low as possible and dont light it for long just to be on the safe side. I think for me Id just buy a new red globe to keep around for lighting purposes and keep the original for display. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Interesting about the glass breaking down. I'm assuming you would never want to use a glass cleaner as well? I've learned it's not good on glass fireplaces. I'm assuming it would be the same for these?
I havent heard about using glass cleaner. I just by circumstance always rinsed my globes in the sink with soapy water. When this happened I posted pics on a lantern page I follow and got immediate responses. All were consistent with crizzling or sick glass. Apparently its only the old tinted glass. I'll have to look into using glass cleaner. I wish I had shown the other type of red globe, another video I guess, lol.
@@GuntersGarage Having a gas fireplace I wasn't aware of this until I read about the residue that is left behind on the glass. It will cause it to get cloudy and get baked on. They actually have a special cleaner for glass that is exposed to heat. Like you I always washed the globe with soap and water.
@@Jason1Pa I never knew, makes sense. We dont have a fireplace in this house but my wife wants a pellet stove. So same thing could happen on the door window. We do have provisions for a wood or pellet stove, just never had one.
I just picked up an old Dietz Little Wizard and your presentation has been helpful. Thank you very much, my friend!
Awesome, thanks for the feedback! They are nice lanterns and plentiful for original and new parts to keep them going.
Thank you for the information
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Dietz lanterns are awesome! A great addition to anyone’s supplies. Thanks for sharing brother. Take care and God bless.
They sure are. Theres quite a few other good manufacturers out there but Dietz seems to have stood the test of time. Thank you :)
Yes I have a Dietz little wizard lantern with a red globe & a clear globe with a W.T. kirkman hooded reflector that I ordered from W.T. kirkman lanterns & works awesome! Great lantern! 👍👍
Sweet, they are nice lanterns. WT Kirkman sells a lot of support products for the hobby. Im glad to have found their website. Thanks for watching :)
@@GuntersGarage you are welcome & great video! Indeed yes & very nice lanterns for sure! 👍👍 Yup W.T. kirkman lanterns has awesome lantern supplies & parts! Even got new burners, wicks & globes for my pair of Dietz comets from W.T. kirkman lanterns! 🙂👍
Thank you taking the time to make this video.
I appreciate you watching 😁
This is VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!@
It could help from ruining a nice old globe like I did.
That’s interesting, I wonder is it all red Dietz globes that are susceptible or was it just a particular run of manufacture. It would be good to hear from a few owners in order to kinda quantify the number of globes that get this glass cancer.
Yes good point I never thought about that. Its only been the Dietz that Ive had issues with.
I have over 130 kerosene lamps and lanterns in my collection. One is a 1909 Dietz top lift D-Lite with the small 9/16'' fuel cap. It has a red globe and appears to be vintage and does not have and glass cancer. I suspect the globes that started out clear and were flash coated with the color are subject to problems. Many of my colored globes are solid color glass. The old PG&E gold lantern at 2:20 in the attached video is flash coated red. The camera makes it look pink until it gets near the clear ''peep hole'' of clear spot of non flash coated glass. It has a frosted light appearance as compared to the solid red globe in the Deitz 100 next to it. 100 designates the approximate run time. The wick is a tiny 3/8'' wide one and it needs a special key to adjust the wick...making it tamper proof.
czcams.com/video/Qfdk97vZXrk/video.html
I love the red globes! But I’m sorry to hear they don’t fare so well once they’re used. I appreciate you sharing that information. Happy Fire Friday! 🔥
Its a roll of the dice I guess. Ive known folks to light the old red ones and have no issues. I guess its a common problem but not a problem to all the old ones. Now that I know I wont chance it. Thanks for watching :)
Cannot Bluegill sent me. Wow your teaching me. I have many of these lanterns but didn’t know all this. Thanks
Awesome thanks
Good to learn about these issues with red globes. Thanks for the video, and I subbed.
Thanks so much, its not certain that would happen to an old red globe but it is a pretty common defect.
I have 2 that are literally at arms reach. Most know the reason for the red globe is for stop or emergency for railroad operators but did you know the red globe is good for hunting Night Crawlers as the red light doesn't drive them into the ground like white will?
No I didnt know that. Helluva tip, thanks! The red was also used for construction or general caution like a flare. I know cabooses could have a red lantern on back and some horse drawn buggies on back too. I just like the ambiance sometimes. I'll be honest I didnt know night crawlers were driven into the ground by white light.
So what’s a night crawler in USA, I’m sure it means something different where I live ?
@@TonyM540 as far as Ive called them its just big ole worms.
i thought red was a warning signal for rail road lanterns
A lot of people think that. I for one did too. The red had a lot of uses. Next week I'll be going over that on FF.
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@@cabotbluegill will do!
Did not know this. Going to light mine up and see what happens. The numbers on the right side tube. They are really really tiny aren't they? I have a No'150 Little Supreme and a Little Wizard, both stamped "City of Baltimore". I assumed they were both US made old ones. One has numbers, one does not. The fuel caps are also different diameters. Is the cap diameter also an indication of age/country of manufacture?
Good stuff! The one with numbers if I remember correctly is USA made. From what I recall when they went overseas is when they stopped putting the dates on. Yes they are tiny and not stamped very deeply either. The fuel cap size I believe is age and model specific.
I’m actually shopping for a replacement globe for a lantern I just bought off eBay. My lantern had the old style red globe. Unfortunately it cracked after removing it from the lantern.
I’m still bummed over that. :(
Anyway, it sounds like the new style red globe is the safer bet for burning. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you liked it. If you have an old red globe in like new condition Id use it for display and just buy a new red one. But if it already has blemishes then Id light it and enjoy it. I'll put a link below where you can buy lantern parts. I find parts and supplies between ebay, antique shops, flea markets and lantern net.
lanternnet.com/
@@GuntersGarage Hey. Just a quick update. I really didn’t want to give up on that broken ruby red globe that I have. So I searched for epoxies that may work. I decided to give Permatex 500 high heat epoxy a shot. Supposedly works for glass and rated for 500 degrees F. Anyway, I burned several hours since repairing and it’s still holding, and the crack doesn’t show too much.
I’ll see how long it lasts. I already bought a replacement clear globe for it in case it fails.
@@jasper60103 good to know, thanks for the info. I used super glue on a crack once. Idk of it did any good or not. Sure stink something terrible when I lit it tho.
The Little Wizard I picked up at the flea market is white. Can I assume it's been spray painted?? If so, what's the safest way to remove this spray paint so I can get down to the original color but not damage the original paint ???
Im not an expert on lanterns but in my experience most of the Little Wizards were metallic blue or Japan Blue I think the color was called. I believe older versions may have been black or even red, not certain on that. As for getting to the original color that will be tricky. The original coating is most likely tougher than the spray painted top layer. However its old so be careful. Ive had success in the past removing spray paint top coats with scotch brite or fine grit sand paper around 300 grit or so. Once I started seeing the bottom color showing through I stopped sanding and wash it up good. Then I went to a chemical adhesive remover no particular reason for that other than it was what I had on hand less likely to eat the bottom layer than acetone. Coleman fuel is as effective adhesive remover as what I used. Its cheaper too. Just take your time and watch whats happening. May not come out perfect and that could be a good thing, gives it character. Hope this helps, good luck with it.
My Hong Kong little wizard has “Hong Kong” stamped Ins ton the bottom of it. I think yours both say N.Y. They moved the factory to China at some point. The newer colored globes are “flashed”, I think they are clear glass with a red coating on the outside, pretty cheesy. I have some vintage red globes buy have never lit them, you can tell the glass itself is red. I may not lite them after seeing this.
I read on a forum it can be hit or miss with the red glass and the breakdown. They said if you do light one keep the flame low as possible and dont light it for long just to be on the safe side. I think for me Id just buy a new red globe to keep around for lighting purposes and keep the original for display. Thanks for watching and the comment.
1957 they moved to Hong Kong to 1982
good advise on the red globe....was there a specific use for a red globe?
Railroad, traffic control, and like road hazard warning things like that. Im going to do next weeks FF on the types of lanterns mostly the red ones.
@@GuntersGarage I thought it might work in the "red light district" :)
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Interesting about the glass breaking down. I'm assuming you would never want to use a glass cleaner as well? I've learned it's not good on glass fireplaces. I'm assuming it would be the same for these?
I havent heard about using glass cleaner. I just by circumstance always rinsed my globes in the sink with soapy water. When this happened I posted pics on a lantern page I follow and got immediate responses. All were consistent with crizzling or sick glass. Apparently its only the old tinted glass. I'll have to look into using glass cleaner. I wish I had shown the other type of red globe, another video I guess, lol.
@@GuntersGarage Having a gas fireplace I wasn't aware of this until I read about the residue that is left behind on the glass. It will cause it to get cloudy and get baked on. They actually have a special cleaner for glass that is exposed to heat. Like you I always washed the globe with soap and water.
@@Jason1Pa I never knew, makes sense. We dont have a fireplace in this house but my wife wants a pellet stove. So same thing could happen on the door window. We do have provisions for a wood or pellet stove, just never had one.