queen charlotte ruined my life
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Quinn's best move at this point is to just claim floating continuity. "I didn't originally write these characters to be POC but Shonda's interpretation is so influential that future stories will be written with these influences in mind."
Lol..this remind me of the interview, and they ask Quinn if her characters white and you can see she didn't prepare for it at all.... but she answered fair enough
I think you're spot on. Riding the wave might be her best bet.
Wich is why she in my opinion isnt a secure writer.
A secure writer wont let the movies Effect you majorly. Its ok if it changes very small things like the collour of a pice of outfit in later prints but the collozr of skin and hair is big and Shows she is ther for sociel points
@@indedgames4359 or maybe it’s actually nice of an author to acknowledge that another form of media improved on her original idea? Is it so bad to take inspiration from someone who elevated your first idea?
@@indedgames4359or maybe since it's actually done with care and is giving another side/view of stories without shitting on it, it's actually good!
I understand why you might have avoided discussing the depiction of mental illness but to add my own opinion as a bipolar person who has been to psychiatric hospitals multiple times - I fucking loved Queen Charlotte and I hate almost 99% of depictions of mental illnesses with mania and psychosis. George's manic-like episode is neither comical nor scary; it's semi-accurate and given a lengthy lead-in, allowing the audience to connect with him. His struggles with hiding his illness and self-hatred are incredibly relatable. The show avoids portraying him as a depressing and pitiful character with a sad ending. Charlotte's approach of simple kindness, acceptance, and rejecting societal expectations was very emotional for me to watch.
Yes it was SOO refreshing to see. I struggle with depression and anxiety, but I am getting better now. But seeing him made me feel seen, even though I do not struggle with the same mental illness. I didn't find myself feeling bad for her or pity (except for the parts where they were quite literally torturing him). I found myself in him. It is by no means a 100 percent accurate depiction of mental illness but it was such a breath of fresh air.
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Same. As a person who lives with mental illness, seeing the show treat him like a person affected by mental illness, not a frightening monster or a burden. And explicitly showing him as worthy of love felt so good. And the ending has me ugly crying everytime. Like, their life together hasn't been easy, but she's still glad she didn't go over the wall 😭
It wasn’t perfect, but it was a really touching way to handle the subject. George was still given humanity and agency throughout his illness, and even though others doubted him, Charlotte opting to stand by him with love, compassion and strength was beautiful. I like that a choice was given - he wanted to protect her, but she chose to stand by his side, which gave him the courage to stand by hers. The ending scene always makes me cry
I could have done without all the torture. I ended up skipping pretty much the entire episode because I attempted to skip past the extremely explicit and triggering medical abuse scenes but they kept coming up over and OVER! Outside of that I agree he was depicted very well, with fully developed personality worthy of an equal romantic lead. He wasn’t infantilized or depicted as a burden that the able lead had to overcome.
I extreeemely disagree with the take that Agatha and her husband's uncomfortable sex scenes should not have been there. This show made a very risky and brave decision to be open about what many women had to suffer through when being viewed and used as sexual pleasure / breeding objects. Porn that depicts women having an overly exaggerate sexual experience is just not reality. Sex is not enjoyable or comfortable for every woman. Especially not with loveless matches of the regency era. The viewer can always make the choice to skip those scenes themselves
yea we all got that but it did not needed to be shown every five seconds of the show. PLUS the fact that it’s ofc a darker skinned black woman is just depressing… but not surprising. because most times their stories depicted in media it’s always given the short end of the stick
@@fairoadiary I actually think it was implemented very well. There were no too much details and nudity, but most important to me - is that it moved Agatha's forward. This frequent unwanted sex was part of her motivation to do things. Also, it was part of her being groomed since she was 3 and a great contrast between those multiple terrible encounters with her husband and one, only one with Ledger.
I disagree that old and young Charlotte are different. No one is the same as they were when they were young. Life changes you. If you met a younger version of yourself, you wouldn't recognize her. And when you did, you'd ask what happened to change you. I know I would.
In the show, when George angrily says that Charlotte was never their mother, she really wasn't. She couldn't be. She had to be the queen and lead the nation without weakness, because George could not.
Like Brimsley said, Charlotte was George's queen, stuck in time. And when the camera showed both George and Charlotte seeing each other's younger selvesin the last scene, it proves Brimsley correct. It's part of what is so tear inducing in the finale.
I LOVE this spinoff!!
The LAYERS to the “beekeeping age” joke in Bridgerton. Literally spit out my drink laughing, genius!
the way that Julia has somehow become the queen of bridgerton should be studied at Harvard
As someone with bipolar disorder, I sobbed for the entirety of the last few episodes because I felt so exposed. I am so similar to George when I’m unmedicated and it was refreshing to see someone with mental illness being treated with care and kindness rather than demonized. Every time I see people with mental illness depicted, they’re monsters and I come away feeling like I don’t deserve to be loved. Queen Charlotte gave us the representation I’ve always wanted others to see.
I think Queen Charlotte had everything I loved about both seasons of the main series without most of the problems. It only being 6 episodes is a crime tho.
Right! It actually occurred to me while watching it that it had the romance and depth of the first season but the pacing and a more enjoyable dynamic of the two characters from season 2. I felt like season 2 really missed some romance because the build up took so long but the back and forth constant maybe they won’t work of season one made it hard to watch queen charlotte had the best of both
From my POV while it was clear that we are supposed to sympathize with her because of the undesirable situation she is in, the Agatha/Lod Danbury scenes where DEFINITLY played for comedic effect and I cant help to purse my lips and side eye the writers for it, but not outright throw tomatos at them
Wait that was played for laughs?? I was so horrified by Agatha’s situation that I honestly glossed over the tone of those scenes
I skipped her scenes when re watching.
I never laughed at her scenes or heard anyone say it made them even giggle? It was sad. She was so young when she was given to him.
@@maliamalis6389the tone of the scene being for laughs doesn't mean the audience would laugh at it. Keep that in mind.
those scenes were gross
My dad has become a Bridgerton girlie, and he fell in love with Queen Charlotte and King George so now I’m here
Ten out of ten i love this
@@beckyginger3432 he legit cried at the bed scene at the end I honestly love that for him he is now watching the mainline show and has legit commentary and everything it is glorious
@@CinderspiderI can’t blame him. I cried too.
Welcome 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I too have a Bridgerton girlie father, who is totally not at all also obsessed with Outlander... Everything else he watches is violence and explosions, but period romance is his jam.
I honestly don't think the agatha/lord danbury scenes needed to go, i think there's some good characterization in the way she dissociates and at times starts planning her next moves during that time, but yes, it definitely needed a more somber framing
"young agatha never discovers lord ledger to be ofbeekeeping age" LMAO
Bruh, I haven't even seen this show, (I just enjoy hearing you speak) but that scene of the dude dancing alone without his boyfriend. That hit. And I don't even have the context around it to have built and primed me to feel things. That just hits. Dang. If gay, why sad.
On the topic of Lady Danbury's affair, I don't understand why she needed to have the affair with THAT character in particular. I feel like the arc could have worked just as well if the affair had been with the prince (and just have him be married or betrothed at the time, since fudging with history in this series clearly doesn't matter). Like I appreciated certain scenes with Violet and Danbury in the present day (especially "in me [he] rots"), but I think they could have been easily finagled to work without the weird dad affair. Feel free to disagree with me, though! Someone might point out reasons the story wouldn't have worked as well without the plotline executing the way it did.
i just don’t think it would’ve been as relevant/intriguing/juicy if it’d been the prince or any other introduced character. 1) i found the prince really unlikeable but Violet’s dad was a sweetheart whose wife was… not so great. 2) there’s no/little emotional stakes if her affair was with the prince, we already knew she wasn’t going to end up with him. a hidden affair with her friend’s married dad is juicy that we were more in the dark about what would happen next. how would Violet react? would Lady Danbury tell her? the emotional stakes were good. if the affair was with another character then i struggle to see how the stakes would’ve been so intriguing.
I couldn't empathize with the Prince after he sold Charlotte as if she was an animal, Lady Danbury deserved a love interest who treats women with respect
I think the affair with Lord Danbury is to explain the "meddling" by Lady Danbury in current-day Bridgerton history. In the books (I read them at the time), Lady Danbury is a fixture, like a substitute Grandmother/matriarch. So I take the past relationship to mean that, initially, Lady Danbury became close to Violet Bridgerton (the adult) *because* she truly did love her father, in the past. Notice how Lady Agatha/Young Lady D doesn't seem to like even her own kids. And, as you said, it makes it juicier. Look what happens with the crowns. Built-in drama! Also in line with the theme of gossip and secrets of the series, through the Lady Whistledown storyline. Gossip is fun...until it's about you.
I think the choice of Lord Ledger as the love interest was so she could learn that sex could be enjoyed, without it having to develop into a potentially complicated love interest with expectations to deal with. The choice of Lord Ledger meant that she could have a good sexual experience without building any expectations of an ongoing romance. He broke it off so her reputation would not be in danger. It would have been messier with Adolphus.
I think it makes sense as other commentors pointed out and adds more complexity to an already rich character. She essentially a grandmother to the Bridgerton clan, so the affair served as one purpose to semi-officialize that. Moreover, it does show Lady D's relationship with "love" as something she truly believes in. She hated her first husband, was enamored-ish by the Prince, but was in love with Lord Ledgar. One thing I liked is how it ended- for Violet. It wasn't messy, they probably could've kept the affair longer, and they both made the decision to stop for Violet which adds onto the layer of their relationship in the present day (and IMO a big improvement from the books since in the books their relationship is just respect since Violet is "nice" and Lady D says what she wants). Also, I am glad Lady D didn't end up with anyone because I think she mentioned, or alluded to, she doesn't want to be married (I am going off of memory) and I think it says a lot about a woman who knows what its like to love but also doesn't want to be married (especially in this society). I liked how they just complicated her character further, and the last scene with Violet/Lady D in present silently acknowleding that the past is the past and they should remember it how they want to (and look how far they've come) is kind of powerful to me. Idk, i liked the affair and thought it was great to expand Lady D's character.
For me. Not so many scenes of Agatha w her husband were needed. But. Their existence as visual non verbal contrast to Charlottes experience of the act. Despite what she says to Agatha / what Agatha tells her to expect, & what she & George say to each other. Is important. Especially in understanding Agatha's Perspective, & ultimate journey. instantly. Visually. Non verbally. Given the medium they are using. Is a visual one. Context is created in those contrasts.
I agree.
When she told him “you are every bit as good as them” and he later told her “hush woman” you could understand absolutely every bit of how that kind of discrimination would affect such an already dysfunctional marriage.
I think it is used to justify her later affair.
I’m only a minute into the vid but Julia you look ✨STUNNING✨ like your hair and makeup and those earrings look so gorgeous omg
thank you :))
The lipstick shade looks like it was made for you 👌👌👌
And, regarding Brimsley/Reynolds, I HATED how they said "its open for interpretation" and how there is an interview in which the initial intent was to have them broken up (which isn't canon) since they never filmed it and people run with it. I personally like to believe they lived to old age together (or at least a life together). After having much more positive queer relationships recently in television, I'd liek to believe this one was one of them and that they didn't break up as initially intended (and yes I believe this sets the tone for one of the Bridgerton siblings being gay)
Girl same. Bridgerton was a bit of a dying brand but this show was literally a breath of fresh air
A dying brand? Lol
@@maciedixon3983 exactly dying?🤣 the way people are so hyped for season 3
It’s not dying
@@ayomidedareabel5525it’s the book readers that are excited cause most the gp hate Colin and Penelope
??? Dying brand how. Just because the wait time for the next season is long?
Queen Charlotte is the best tv show we have gotten out of the Bridgerton series!!!
By far.
Queen Julia is ruining mine right now😊
I love that when you title a video something like BLANK ruined my life I don't know if it's because the thing is horrendously awful or because it's consumed you because you're having such a good time of it.
a third canon has struck the towers
so I live in Bath where a lot of Bridgerton and Queen Charlotte was filmed. I actually worked in a building where it was filmed and I remember being told it was something called ‘Jewel’ as it’s code name. probably my favourite season so far also
I haven't gotten a chance to watch all the way through yet so my opinion is subject to change, but from the clips I've had a look at, the prequel actresses (at minimum Danbury and Charlotte) are doing a great job of evoking the main series actresses. Danbury has a very particular stance she takes, body language, and I've liked the way that Charlotte smiles with her eyes. If nothing else (as I'm sometimes locked in a love hate struggle with this particular cinematic universe) I hope this tentatively good opinion holds up on an actual viewing!
Hi! I'm a long-time romance reader (45F) and Julia Quinn and the writers of her generation, late 90s and early 00s) are NOT considered authors of bodice rippers. Those are romance authors of the 70s and 80s such as Rosemary Rogers, who became a massive hit with Sweet Savage Love (1974). OG romance novel sites like All About Romance probably had lists but, IIRC, these romances were considered modern and revolutionary and controversial because they featured what was considered explicit love scenes back then. Something you didn't see in the mainstream but rather in "dirty books" intended for men until then. If you think about it, this lines up with the feminist struggles of the time. Just wanted to point that out. I wish I remembered the names of a couple more authors of that period. Anyway, I am enjoying your videos and I realize the generational differences in how you read the books/JQ writing. I feel old, LOL but it's interesting. Thank you for your perspective.
I'm not the only one who thinks Julia look like Drew Barrymore, am I ?? Like, put her in the Ever After dress, I s2g, it would be uncanny.
....Hey, Julia, ever considered dipping your toes into the cosplay/historical fashion side of CZcams? You're halfway there with Bridgerton content.
I think its the hair and ear rings, 100% what Drew would wear
And the red lip!
You really shouldn't have told us all the things you *didn't* for this latest Bridgerton instalment. Now I *must* have a spreadsheet! I *need* the tea set!
Girl, you *were* loud and right about Bridgerton, and you read stuff so I don't have to. So I will keep coming back to hear what you have to say
I'm still wondering why they didn't do the math with Violet.
What do you mean?
@@Hana9916 she's 12 in the past. And the "present day" story is set in 1814. She would have been 53/54 when giving birth to Hyacinth.
@@katherinealvarez9216 ufff
"It's my bat signal"
I was wheezing.
I don’t understand why people are so critical of mini series’, personally I love a good mini series. TV producers have shown that they can’t make full length television shows without engaging in a lot of filler. Mini series’ tend not to have any bloating and just focus on the story being told instead of meandering around irrelevant plotpoints.
Yes! I need more mini series. Was one of the main reasons I decided to give this a chance. I can't stand wasting 12+ hours of my life on shows anymore.
I think there is a place for mini series, but overall the current trend towards everything being a mini series is really damaging to the entertainment industry, it’s heavily contributing towards the writers’ strike.
Yes, but their lack of ability to make a full fledged show is more than dissapointing, is it not?
@@katgreer6113 a matter of perspective I guess, some people might be disappointed whereas someone like me might prefer the shorter and more concise show
Everything I know about the Bridgerton universe is from Julia’s videos and I’m not even mad.
I cannot wait for you to talk about s3! I love your opinions and how you express them! ok love you bye
Julia, just wanted to let you know your videos are so comforting to me and I'm always so happy to receive a notif from your channel !
JULIA I HAD BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!!!!!!!!!!
Every time I think "well, I won't have a lot of feelings about THIS season surely" Bridgerton comes up from behind and smacks me over the head 😅(season 2's the MVP for me still but Queen Charlotte was GREAT)
when queen julia posts anything related to the bridgerton universe, i’m sat
I have never watched or read Bridgerton and don't really plan to but am commenting in support of our queen HRM Julia Cudney
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
ahhh ive been waiting for this video i’m so glad
Your's is the only take I've been waiting to hear on this topic....
u are so articulate i love these videos
I LOVE your commentary. Let me say that, and while there is a lot I want to discuss, regarding Violet specifically since she was your least discussed- I think that was intentional. Practically speaking, she wasn't of age during the Great Experiment nor was ever part of the Royal Court. However, I think her inclusion was amazing for several reasons (1) We see similarities with Young Violet to her children and it just adds a bit more depth to her character to why she lets them be as she is. When she waved at Lady Danbury at the Ball breaking etiquette you can see Eloise in her. How she wants her sons to even find a wife who has a sense of knowledge probably because her father encouraged her mind as well. (2) I liked that they explored and complicated her and Agatha. Agatha present day has really, basically, been family to the Bridgertons and this affair (while questionable) i think adds layers to why Agatha cares for the Bridgertons so since Violet was the reason the affair stopped. From reading the series, I love that they actually expanded on their relationship in this show and the implications for the main series. (3) Practically speaking, time constraints BUT if they believe this would be popular enough to warrant a second spin-off, I believe Violet being here would warrant a spin off with her and Edmund. I know people want a Reynolds/Brimsley spin-off but I think a Violet spin-off with her and Edmund would be perfect following what we saw in this show (especially since her story is very rushed in that novella).
i usually dont mind the "problematic tropes" associated with bodice-ripping book prn except that its become one of those conventions so expected that no book in the genre seems to be able to skip out on it. thats annoying esp when it undermines the characterization of the characters actually in that story. if you show me that your male lead is kind and docile and respectful that characterization should be consistent in love scenes instead of him spontaneously becoming all dominant and crazy bc genre convention demands it.
still haven’t seen bridgerton but you slayed so hard with that thumbnail
I love your energy
This video was so good it made me want to watch queen charlotte and i thought the other shows were just okay
I'm desperately waiting for Shonda to adapt "The Sum of All Kisses" 🙏 It's by far my favourite book from Quinn.
I was suprised by how much I enjoyed Queen Charlotte but I ended up really liking it. Now we start the long wait for season 3
Coming back to watch this and to let you know that you’re the only person I trust to give a fair discussion of Bridgerton Opinion Having for season 3
You look especially stunning! Idk if it’s the lip or hair or what but wow 💕
I hated the first season, didn’t finish it, went into season 2 expecting the worst, and actually kinda liking it.
I loved Queen Charlotte! Brimsley’s subplot had me in tears by the end!!
I teared up twice at the mini series: once at Brimsley’s final scene, and once at the very end scene. That shit gets me.
Julia… you hair has never looked better I mean wow 😍
It could be frustrating to watch but only because it was actually riveting. I was drawn in and put myself in their place. I actually cried during it and I usually only laugh or get exasperated when watching the original bridgerton series. It had beautiful moving music too
I really enjoyed Queen Charlotte! Great analysis!
spot on once again
oh i LOVE your earrings
Not me seeing a Julia Cudney video and clicking immediately
Me and my mom were just talking today and I was saying I hope they cast Gareth (Hyacinth’s love) as a black man. I want Gareth to look similar to a younger lady danbury. I also wonder if they will recast Sophie, Michael and Lucy or keep them described like the books? I personally hope they recast because I’ve loved the casting changes in the show. I’m so excited for S3
Wasn't a fan of seeing George's modern buzz cut, all the time. Same with Violet's hair down all the time! Personal nitpicks! But young men would always wear wigs for formal occasions like a ball or Wedding! and Young women would wear their hair up, during the day! Took me out of it!
I got so angry that he never wore a wig lmao
i thank god we were spared one of the powdered wigs 🤣
@@eleanordunkin5484they were thinking to put him in a wig (thank god they didn’t) Corey even tried one but they ultimately decided well the head of costumes did that George who even feels uncomfortable in his costumes since he doesn’t want to be king wouldn’t care for such things. Either way the rest of the show costumes also didn’t purposefully stay fateful to the times and they wanted it to be more like gala looks
Wasn't Violet's hair down because she was too young to "be of courting age"? The way she's portrayed as bubbly and smiley made me think of Violet as 12 or 13.
I actually really liked the ending for Reynolds and Brimsley's story because I interpreted it as them HAVING already lived a long life together, and Reynolds simply died first. Brimsley had to miss him, mourn him, be a widow essentially in secret, but they DID love each other all those years. Seeing interviews with the showrunners afterwards has made me extremely disappointed because apparently this was not the intention lol
Would be interesting for you to read Johanna Lindsey's regency romance novels!
Please please please do a video on season 3 after we get part 2!!! Please!! I need more of your Bridgerton thoughts!!!
IMHO there is no excuse for Julia Quinn writing "problematic/questionable" consents scene in 2022 for two reasons:
1. It is not true that male dominance/questionable consent is inherent to "bodice ripper" genre. Over the past few months I have read dozens of historical romance books, and in majority of the new ones (written after 2015), authors pay extra attention to make sure that the consent is not an issue. And even many older historical romances (at least written by my favourite authors) are not THAT problematic as the ones written by Quinn. Hell, I read a romance from 2000, (had I noticed earlier the year, I would not have read it exactly b/c of all the issues plaguing Quinn's books), and there were no issues at all
2. Julia Quinn KNOWS she is watched, she knows there is discourse over the problematic nature of her work and YET she writes another questionable scene???? I don't get it. At this point it seems that Quinn just doesn't know how to write without those problematic issues.
While I binged the first two seasons of Bridgerton last year I didn't click with Queen Charlotte and bounced off it around episode 3. This may just be a byproduct of getting really into historical romance since then and espcially HR by queer women of colour. Seeing the rich ways women of colour play in this predominantly white straight space as a queer woman has really upped my standards and Quinn and Shonda don't scratch that itch anymore.
Maybe I'll get back to Queen Charlotte given the great praise its gotten but I might not
Oooh you got some queer recs?
@@CanelaAguila 1. That Could Be Enough by Alyssa Cole is a great Sapphic novella with two black leads. I especially appreciated seeing the lives of working class women in post revolution USA. I will say if you're not a Hamilyon fan some of the references and reverence for Alexander and Eliza Hamilton might be grating.
2. A Lady For a Duke by Alexis Hall. This was my first HR with a tras lead and I was blown away by how well Hall navigates exploring trans identity without wading into unnecessary trauma
3. Ms. Martin's Incorrigble Adventure by Courtney Milan. This story is special tome because it's one for the few romances that covers a love story between two older women with both our leads being over 70. I especially loved how Milan explored what it ment to be an unmarried older woman in Victorian society and seeing women who had been sidelined by society finding joy.
4. Proper English by CJ Charles. This novel was a fun one as it blended romance with country house murder mystery. CJ Charles is immensely popular in the queer historical romance space and that's for good reason. I found their blend of wit palpable rantic tension is always fantastic
Bonus Rec: while The Duke Who Didn't by Coutney Milan isn't queer this novel is the perfect example of writing people of colour into the tradionally white romance space meaningfully. Reading this after watching Bridgertons lackluster efforts to comment of their colorblind cast really opened my eyes to the possibilities of diversity in this space. The Duke Who Didn't is set in the fictional immigrant town of Wedgeford, England and Milan imagines a space where Chinese and other Asian immigrants founded a major community in 18th century England. While the realities of racism of the time influence the story. Milan still manages to centralize the joy and community of this imagined Asian diaspora.
Should’ve worn your “old timey” shirt with the tea cups
literally george is so dreamy
I was disappointed they didn’t make Lady Danbury gay as that was one of my favourite headcanons for season one and two of Bridgerton
There's nothing about her that screams gay tho
@@ayomidedareabel5525 she read extremely “lesbian aunt” to me
....what😭
Yeah but she still could be bi/pan.
I got the vibes that she has been to a orgy or two in her time
I think this is an excellent topic and very relevant today, one year after you posted. I haven't read the Bridgerton series yet. I am still waiting for the books to arrive on order.
You raised an excellent point. Do you end up with two canons when the showrunners introduce a spinoff like Queen Charlotte? You point to the book as one canon and the Bridgerton series and potentially the spinoff. Because of the "colorblind" casting these conflicting canons are a big problem. I can imagine someone seeing the cover based on the Netflix series and being shocked when they read the book. Or, vice versa, someone knows ab out the book and being annoyed to find the Netflix series reflected on the book they have known for 20 years.
I have now watched all 3 seasons plus Queen Charlotte. I am not an avid regency era historical romance fiction fan, but I know what the genre is. I don't think people understand fully what that means. Heteronormative, predominately or exclusively white caucasian/european characters and strict gender roles and depending on the author, little or no explicit sex scenes are to be expected. Plenty of non-white women readers have adored such books, including men, who have probably authored a few themselves.
Shondaland has possibly reinvented the genre. People like costumes and the multi racial characters. There is even some amusement with the strict language and manners -- but not too much! There has to be plenty of room for "Woo Hoo!" But maybe in all fairness Shondaland should have just created a whole new book and film and left Julia Quinn and her books alone. I don't mean it as an insult. I just think regency era stories are what they are. The diversity and inclusion agenda doesn't fit. Once you start shoehorning these different ideologies, then you destroy the nature of a regency era book. They have their rightful place in literature. I think what Shondaland is doing is charting a new course. That's fine. That's great! But it is better to start fresh and create your own work of fiction instead of twisting an original work until it barely resembles what it was. That's not fair to anybody.
Julia Quinn is in an interesting position right now. It is now the end of June 2024. The fandom is protesting because of the genderswap of a major character in a romance storyline. Julia Quinn released a statement that she posted on Instagram basically defending the showrunner's decision to genderswap a character and then urges fans to "trust the showrunners." Julia Quinn has benefited from the Shondaland radical interpretation of her book. It's not just that she "secured the bag." She is on some whirlwind literary adventure beyond her wildest dreams. I'm guessing. People love and have loved the books authored by Julia Quinn. But now, thanks to Shondaland, hundreds of millions of people know about her book and love what they believe are her stories. Well, they started off as her stories, but Shondaland has changed them so much I'm not sure if you can still call them Julia Quinn stories. I haven't read Julia Quinn's books yet, but from what I hear, some people might take umbrage at some of her writings.
So let's see where things go as we await Season 4.
Off topic I just got that Jane Austin book set!
It sounds bad to say but I feel completely comfortable saying as an SA survivor, but I May Destroy You has the best representation of SA I’ve seen in the media ever. I caution those who want to watch it, but it’s an amazing piece of media
@@goober479 in my honest opinion, no you can’t. The main character gets assaulted/raped twice and two of her friends get sexually assaulted/raped too. It’s the central line of the show. Like I said, amazing show but please take care of your mental health and skip it.
good for her
Julia, have you ever made a video about While You Were Sleeping? It feels like a movie you might enjoy even though it’s not super trendy right now
i haven't made a video about it, but i do enjoy it!
I really enjoyed that movie.
gardening club 😂
I am only watching Bridgeton related stuff through youtubers cuz im not sure id like it, but i may watch it next season if i can finally see a fellow plus sized girl get to have sexy moments in popular media
*reads title*
same.
Im HOPING that they have a good third season cause book four is my favourite. I think too many ppl have problems with Penelope’s portrayal in the show to have the book scenes match the new season.
Queen Charlotte was good for a season I deemed unnecessary upon the first look but I enjoyed it to a point. Fingers crossed queen Charlotte had influence on the third season tho.
Where can I get book 5 of bridgerton for free
I agree with you regarding Agatha’s scenes with her husband. It’s unnecessary. Could he not have croaked in another manner? Although the this may have been the view of some women during that time regarding sex with their husbands. A form of duty and not pleasure.
I don't think preferences in fiction can be *entirely* divorced from real life ideology. The TradWife pick-me set didn't arise in a vacuum.
Yeah, they arose from conservative Christianity, sexism, & white supremacy; not from romance novels. It can be argued that media created in a conservative Christian white supremacist sexist society will have tropes informed by that, but the media will still be effects of that bigotry, not causes.
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ROOM was a haunting book. i forgot they made it into a movie. highly recommend if you haven't read it.
I couldn't take this show seriously at all cause this is supposed to be the same king george that was ruling during the american revolution (also being irish i have some beef with depictions of monarchy)
So, I think experiences those scenes with her creates more empathy around where she was and her choices after. Women were most often treated as livestock and sex has always been a form of that patriarchal power/male privilege.
...But showing the after-effects of those scenes already explains her situation, without subjecting the character to be humiliated in front of the audience--particularly a Black woman being treated as breeding stock for patriarchal power structures. It's the argument of whether you have to witness her being sexually assaulted in order to know assault is bad, or whether the audience can be trusted just to know that already without turning it into a spectacle.
I couldn't sit through original Bridgerton, could not put down Queen Charlotte. Other than some of the "treatment" scenes getting too close to torture too often, and me agreeing that the marital assault scenes could be cut with nothing lost, I thought it was remarkably good. I think the racial tension intersecting with politics is interesting.
What’s wrong with Believe Me? I thought it was quite good and handled sexual assault well
I'm glad I'm not thr only one who didn't love the agatha sex scenes.
I mean neither did she right [badum-tss]
They were really uncomfortable to watch. Like it sort of took me by surprise how it was played so glibly.
if you’re talking about the ones with her husband im pretty sure they were deliberately made to be uncomfortable/un-sexy ^^
@@chichimai.The show treated these scenes mostly as if they were supposed to be comedic which is fucked up considering it's literal rape. They didn't need to have a black woman being sexually abused on screen just for us to understand her husband was bad, there's a million other ways to do it.
Always skipped those. Gross.
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I mean i dont think lady d was assaulted. Finding sex tedious but consenting to sex is not sexual assault.
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I think it’s only counted to the show I like they think the book is not a canon to the lot canon to the book is the original time I
It never really occurred to me to interpret the intimate scenes between lady Danbury and her husband as assault. In my eyes it's only assault in the way that like being stuck in a job you hate is slavery.
They lived in a color blind that’s what I like to think that having a color black
I didnt love how ignorant queen Charlotte was to the issues of the black community in the series.
She was less ignorant and more focused on other things
That’s my opinion
Queen Charlotte is the best of the Bridgerton TV shows because the TV shows tried to do too much. Plus, I hated that in season one, the TV show spent two episodes on Berbrook at the expense of developing Simon and Daphne's relationship. I also hated that the TV show took away Simon's voice and pretty much agreed with Daphne that Simon was a liar. I didn't like that in season two, Anthony didn't do things in the TV show that he did in the novel like kiss Kate essentially making the first move, and suckling her breast to get rid of the poison from the bee sting. Instead, the TV show changed Anthony's overtly sexual action into Kate grabbing Anthony's hand and placing it on her bosom. In my view, the writers only did this because a woman of color is expected to be a little slutty, even though Kate from the book was just as ignorant about sex as Daphne was. With the exception of Lady Danbury, most of the characters of colors, including Marina, Simon, Simon's dad, Lady Danbury's husband, are characters that the audience root against at some point or another, where the white characters, from Penelope to Daphne to Colin to Anthony are characters that the audience roots for. In the book, Simon danced with Penelope at the ball, but in the TV show, it was Colin. In the book, Kate catches Anthony alone with an opera singer, but in season two, that scene was removed from the story, because perhaps it would have made Anthony look like a rake.
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