I tear up literally every time the little brother verse starts out. That entire chunk of the song turns me into a baby. It's one of few songs I, without fail, cry at _every_ single time.
You know, I think that's the greatest thing about this band. It's so simple, a song like this or Three Peaches, which is only two chords, and it really moves me. I love this Mangum.
One of the most beautiful songs i've ever heard, and all I read in the comments is an argument that has devolved into ad-homs. I know the "quit arguing and listen to the song" posts are a bit clique, but seriously, you only live once, how much of it do you want to spend doing this?
I can't stand his voice but I can't stop listening to this song. I've listened to it literally over a dozen times since discovering it two and a half days ago. Why, oh why oh why, didn't he do a studio recording of this song?
@snipersas No point. =] I just like seeing self righteousness and Internet confidence come together in one cute little package named snipersas. I love you!
@acorn2taco Jeff Mangum had a Salinger-esque breaking point where he stopped performing except on very rare (and un-announced) occasions. He just started touring again, so there is hope for new work! And one must assume he did not pack away his pens during his decade-long retirement :) NPR bit: npr.org/2011/11/27/142708775/witnessing-the-second-coming-of-jeff-mangum
a year late to this but thats just because it straight up isn’t, it was released as a single officially this past year. it is from 1998 but its the only song recorded and written after aeroplane came out, has only been played live a few times, but there is also a studio demo and an official live recording from one of their last shows in 2014
@Tribune12345 man this comment is wrapped in so many layers of irony and non sequitur it even got into MY head a little bit kudos youtube user "Tribune12345", you are finally too cool for school
@Tribune12345 well i appreciate your willingness to discuss matters like this for their better understanding, i think the ultimate thing is here is that your initial claim in this conversation has no merit and it was nothing more than hypocrisy, and i think thats been pretty satisfactorily illustrated by me. the actual reasons that caused you to go about and do that are kind of another thing entirely
+brickman409 "This is a new song. It's kinda twisted, I'm sorry about the really sick parts. I've been working a lot out. It's new, I really got to figure those out. I'm sorry." He's so awkward, lol
+brickman409 Little birds born without a mother or a father I can feel their feathers forming in the running water Now there is another in the middle of my mouth A hundred altogether inside of me now Little birds, little birds, come into my body
A little bit. Both are nasally, and I think that each phrase is emphasized in the similar ways. I don't really hear it profoundly, but both are truly great bands.
yeah alot of his music has that feel but what difference does that make? by the way he is married to a movie director and has a couple of kids....also this means nothing.
@ChaseKittens This would sound better fosho...its about how much emotion they're putting in the song. All live shit is better except for mainstream shit now.
@snipersas LOVE to continue a more structured type of conversation by Private Messaging, if you're interested, of course. Maybe we would be able to come to some sort of a middle ground, like people generally do in a real argument between two capable beings. I love when people tell someone to "move on" like it immediately makes them the better man. I'm far more interested in moving this conversation somewhere private where the possibility for a consensus on my hypocrisy can be reached.
But erm, his dad didnt actualy kill his brother....... Its about a person who's dad kills his brother not Jeff, Jeff is (at least according to the internet) good friends with his dad....
in the lyric sheet for aeroplane in between the lyrics for King of carrot flowers part one and parts two and three he explains why he says "I love you Jesus Christ" and that he means it, so It's safe to say he's christian. There are plenty of christians who think homosexuality is fine (but not gay sex. Yeah, it's fucked up). For the record, though, I'm atheist.
@snipersas There is a difference between being spineless and shallow and being a sociable human being. If you went around berating others for having a different opinion, you would not function in society. True, I jumped around a lot in this conversation, mainly because I was putting a minimal amount of effort into defending myself. Once I saw your response, I knew nothing would come of our discussion, but my sense of pride forced me to continue and does so still. As a matter of fact, I would
@snipersas Every type of music has at one point or another been followed by a group of "hipsters." I like Jeff's music because it strikes a chord in me that a lot of other music doesn't. Stop bunching fans of any type of music together in a negative way as if music taste was anything more than subjective in the first place.
@Tribune12345 i know what youre talking about in your second paragraph. but i definitely dont think i was just trying to make myself look like the better man, since i only started saying it was time to end the discussion and move on after i had satisfactorily (in my mind) revealed the point i was arguing against to be hypocrisy. if there are things you think havent been adequately covered, PM me and we can discuss them. so i was being honest when i said i think we should just move on
@junkheadjones Not so much the opression of homosexuality as the acts of violence against things they don't believe in. Jeff Mangum is like the purest flower-child of his decade. That's why so many decent people relate to him.
@Tribune12345 hahaha what? how am i being self righteous? and for that matter, what is "internet confidence"? this comment read like you were just reaching for shit to call me without understanding what any of it meant i love you too bud
@boomboombassify It seems to exemplify the horror of oppression led through ignorance, in this case homosexuality being oppressed by the ignorance of the church.
@Tribune12345 but i dont know what kind of "consensus" WE can reach about YOUR hypocrisy, so ask yourself if you're just having trouble swallowing your pride. if thats honestly not what keeps you from wanting to stop talking about this, then yeah PM me
A hypocrite would be someone telling someone to "Talk about the song at hand." while--at the same time--not talking about the song at hand. In English using profanity as an adverb or adjective denotes anger (e. "turn the fuckin' light off"). I'm not looking for a debate. The FACT of the matter, is that you desperately want to be the comment-nazi and I--being a third person party--don't like it. I was saying that music was a personal experience, and despite what you want: people will compare song
@Tribune12345 oh i see you're ignoring criticism you've recieved by being ironic, its cool because you're actually making fun of a thing and junk you are literally that much of a 1 dimensional hipster
Wow all this for me? This was completely unneeded. You don't understand what hypocrite means. There is no hostility, you're making something out of nothing, why are you looking for a debate? Music..personal experience.. what are you rambling about? How is that relevant at all. I'm guessing your just high and rambling.
For some reason I like this more than the studio version. I just really find his voice in the beginning soothing.
BEST VERSION
This version is definitely better than the studio version.
By soothing you mean haunting, right?
Exacly! I just love how raw and filled with emotions it is
I tear up literally every time the little brother verse starts out. That entire chunk of the song turns me into a baby. It's one of few songs I, without fail, cry at _every_ single time.
''from the thing he loves the most but we know will betray him''
This song and “through my tears”. Omg... omg
We can only imagine what the next album would have been like, if this is one of the songs that would have been on it...
This...Is such a SAD song. And so fucking amazing, I can't stop listening!
he is such a fricken genius...
Love everything Jeff ever did but his 2 best songs are this and Engine. This melody is absolutely incredible
this version is so chilling
my wife thinks this has bluegrass roots. i agree. man he has such an amazing voice
I'm happy this song exists
first time hearing this song. I've listened to it 6 times in a row. amazing. this is officially my favourite song by nmh, I think.
You know, I think that's the greatest thing about this band.
It's so simple, a song like this or Three Peaches, which is only two chords, and it really moves me.
I love this Mangum.
Wherever you guys are, thank you so much for your sounds :)
Amazing song, beautiful, strong, pure!
i just keep listening to this song over and over and over and over again
"And now he's under water."
Favourite NMH song yet.
nice birthday song
This. Is. Unreal.
Pure fucking poetry
great band
my friend Caitlin always sings this one and it makes me miss her to hear it now.
He played this last night...
Jeff played this at ATP Minehead this Sunday 13/03/2012. Absolutely beautiful!
nice song ....
awesome song. Very emotional but beautiful!
beautiful
@andymcca thankyou for the informations! very much appreciated :D
Morrissey's Love hasn't failed me yet.
@RockingRochelle This is something more beautiful than beautiful.
@Tribune12345 dude that was so crazy i checked my inbox as soon as you posted this
Wow. All trolling aside, this man is something else.
So he took a hammer....
Freaking aweseome.
One of the most beautiful songs i've ever heard, and all I read in the comments is an argument that has devolved into ad-homs. I know the "quit arguing and listen to the song" posts are a bit clique, but seriously, you only live once, how much of it do you want to spend doing this?
Ah, the glories of Bit Torrent.
I was there
holy. shit.
Amazing Song. Like most Mangum songs are. Where Are You Jeff!!!???
Song starts at 1:03
I can't stand his voice but I can't stop listening to this song. I've listened to it literally over a dozen times since discovering it two and a half days ago.
Why, oh why oh why, didn't he do a studio recording of this song?
Cap't Dilds they did. I still find the rawness of this version is more authentic to the material of the song.
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@@EZEMWC Well this was a blast from the past. Thank you!
@mojopin85 that's why there's no newer stuff by them...? just recently discovered this band...
parks and recreation...
No, person telling Jeff Mangum to "come on", you come on.
JEFF MANGUM IS ON TOUR!
Now, who wants to buy me 2,000 dollar tickets to his show in NY on October 29?(:
it's an obscure number. you've probably never heard of it.
@snipersas No point. =]
I just like seeing self righteousness and Internet confidence come together in one cute little package named snipersas.
I love you!
@snipersas That is indeed crazy.
@acorn2taco Jeff Mangum had a Salinger-esque breaking point where he stopped performing except on very rare (and un-announced) occasions.
He just started touring again, so there is hope for new work! And one must assume he did not pack away his pens during his decade-long retirement :)
NPR bit:
npr.org/2011/11/27/142708775/witnessing-the-second-coming-of-jeff-mangum
@snipersas Please, please! I can't take another bite! I'm full to the brim!
The description says it's from "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" album but it's not in the track list. How come?
a year late to this but thats just because it straight up isn’t, it was released as a single officially this past year. it is from 1998 but its the only song recorded and written after aeroplane came out, has only been played live a few times, but there is also a studio demo and an official live recording from one of their last shows in 2014
Anyone know how to get a copy of this song - either by download or purchase of physical CD? I've been searching for several years now.
@snipersas If we knew each other outside of our Internet personalities, I have a feeling we'd be getting along far better.
That may be just me though.
yeah, he's told his fans not to assume he's writing about his own father.
Seems to me that the song chords are just Am and G. In case anyone is interested...
@Tribune12345 man this comment is wrapped in so many layers of irony and non sequitur it even got into MY head a little bit
kudos youtube user "Tribune12345", you are finally too cool for school
Good deal.
@gothicgeek14 shes okkkayyyyyy... good to dance to but i like this style of music better
@Tribune12345 well i appreciate your willingness to discuss matters like this for their better understanding, i think the ultimate thing is here is that your initial claim in this conversation has no merit and it was nothing more than hypocrisy, and i think thats been pretty satisfactorily illustrated by me. the actual reasons that caused you to go about and do that are kind of another thing entirely
what is he saying at the beginning? It's kind of hard to hear
+brickman409 "This is a new song. It's kinda twisted, I'm sorry about the really sick parts. I've been working a lot out. It's new, I really got to figure those out. I'm sorry."
He's so awkward, lol
+brickman409 Little birds born without a mother or a father
I can feel their feathers forming in the running water
Now there is another in the middle of my mouth
A hundred altogether inside of me now
Little birds, little birds, come into my body
A little bit. Both are nasally, and I think that each phrase is emphasized in the similar ways. I don't really hear it profoundly, but both are truly great bands.
yeah alot of his music has that feel but what difference does that make? by the way he is married to a movie director and has a couple of kids....also this means nothing.
where did he play it?
@McHaydn
And a lot like Betsy Ross.
@boopbeepboopboopxx Lmao
@ChaseKittens
This would sound better fosho...its about how much emotion they're putting in the song. All live shit is better except for mainstream shit now.
he has kids?
i dont remember that on the wiki.
@snipersas LOVE to continue a more structured type of conversation by Private Messaging, if you're interested, of course. Maybe we would be able to come to some sort of a middle ground, like people generally do in a real argument between two capable beings.
I love when people tell someone to "move on" like it immediately makes them the better man. I'm far more interested in moving this conversation somewhere private where the possibility for a consensus on my hypocrisy can be reached.
It's spelled mangum, not magnum
@JennyV777 aye sir, you too. may god save all of our poor sinning souls spinning through a sinew of wretched disgusting free thoughts.
But erm, his dad didnt actualy kill his brother.......
Its about a person who's dad kills his brother not Jeff, Jeff is (at least according to the internet) good friends with his dad....
@sbcam123 I don't think you can refer to any thing as "singng"
considering it's not a word!
@eskimokissesyay
Does he have children?
in the lyric sheet for aeroplane in between the lyrics for King of carrot flowers part one and parts two and three he explains why he says "I love you Jesus Christ" and that he means it, so It's safe to say he's christian. There are plenty of christians who think homosexuality is fine (but not gay sex. Yeah, it's fucked up).
For the record, though, I'm atheist.
@DoctorOfJournalism1 I'm going with Dm , more so than Am because Am kicks off The Passenger
@snipersas There is a difference between being spineless and shallow and being a sociable human being. If you went around berating others for having a different opinion, you would not function in society. True, I jumped around a lot in this conversation, mainly because I was putting a minimal amount of effort into defending myself. Once I saw your response, I knew nothing would come of our discussion, but my sense of pride forced me to continue and does so still. As a matter of fact, I would
@snipersas Every type of music has at one point or another been followed by a group of "hipsters." I like Jeff's music because it strikes a chord in me that a lot of other music doesn't.
Stop bunching fans of any type of music together in a negative way as if music taste was anything more than subjective in the first place.
Too high quality.
@lugiface I just hope he doesn't work "the really sick" parts out!
@gothicgeek14 Why do you believe he doesn't actually worship Jesus? Is it his lyrics? I don't always know what he is saying.
@Tribune12345 i know what youre talking about in your second paragraph. but i definitely dont think i was just trying to make myself look like the better man, since i only started saying it was time to end the discussion and move on after i had satisfactorily (in my mind) revealed the point i was arguing against to be hypocrisy. if there are things you think havent been adequately covered, PM me and we can discuss them. so i was being honest when i said i think we should just move on
Could just get Limewire aswell as some kind of anti-virus/spyware software. And be careful what you download on Limewire.
@snipersas I was just reaching for shit to call you without understanding what any of it meant.
@junkheadjones
Not so much the opression of homosexuality as the acts of violence against things they don't believe in. Jeff Mangum is like the purest flower-child of his decade. That's why so many decent people relate to him.
I think you guys are angry.
@Tribune12345 hahaha what? how am i being self righteous? and for that matter, what is "internet confidence"? this comment read like you were just reaching for shit to call me without understanding what any of it meant
i love you too bud
@boomboombassify It seems to exemplify the horror of oppression led through ignorance, in this case homosexuality being oppressed by the ignorance of the church.
@Tribune12345 but i dont know what kind of "consensus" WE can reach about YOUR hypocrisy, so ask yourself if you're just having trouble swallowing your pride. if thats honestly not what keeps you from wanting to stop talking about this, then yeah PM me
why the fuck does it matter? Talk about the song at hand.
@crestfallengirl9
you must really suck at google, just type youtube download.
nice hiv beard
A hypocrite would be someone telling someone to "Talk about the song at hand." while--at the same time--not talking about the song at hand. In English using profanity as an adverb or adjective denotes anger (e. "turn the fuckin' light off"). I'm not looking for a debate. The FACT of the matter, is that you desperately want to be the comment-nazi and I--being a third person party--don't like it. I was saying that music was a personal experience, and despite what you want: people will compare song
@Tribune12345 oh i see you're ignoring criticism you've recieved by being ironic, its cool because you're actually making fun of a thing and junk
you are literally that much of a 1 dimensional hipster
Wow all this for me? This was completely unneeded. You don't understand what hypocrite means. There is no hostility, you're making something out of nothing, why are you looking for a debate? Music..personal experience.. what are you rambling about? How is that relevant at all. I'm guessing your just high and rambling.