How to install new BOOM PIPE:
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Michael Cetnar from ConForms guides us through the process of installing new "Endurance" series boom pipe and elbows on our Putzmeister 38-5 concrete pump.
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Thank you Michael from conforms for coming out and doing this and showing people how important it is to keep the pipes and everything safe so that way when you're out pouring someplace nobody gets hurt whether it whatever it is on a pump God bless you guys
Thanks for watching this one. Mike is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to this stuff. I learn something new from most everyone conversation we have. Definitely a great asset to our industry.
You know Scott what I like about this the most about you doing the pipe repair is the fact that it teaches anybody that's coming into the industry how important it is for stuff like this to stay maintained to keep the pump running and to keep your job
Absolutely!!!! At many smaller companies the operators are in charge of checking/maintaining their pipes/elbows/gaskets. It’s invaluable information for us operators to know. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Pipe checking has got to be my least favourite part of operating a pump. So many finnicky details to it. Thanks for the informative video
I will say that’s one distinct advantage of single-wall pipe, it can be checked quickly and easily using an ultrasonic tester (which will not properly measure twin-wall pipe).
fuckin sucks doesnt it
@@nigelscott331 we had lots of bodies here, so it wasn’t too bad. It really sucks doing this job when the pipes are full of hard concrete 😂😂😂
Hey Scott thanks for videotaping the sunset or sunrise behind you that is beautiful
Love this time of year!!! 😁
Been pumping 30+ years and I learned a couple things.. thanks for the information
Glad you enjoyed this one. I learn something new most every time I chat with Mike here.
Good stuff Scott!! Most pumpers have no clue!!
That’s why we made this one. Far too many twin-wall pipes and elbows have succumbed to an early demise only because no one has taken the time to educate.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I watched all of it! Always good stuff from you! Information is PRICELESS!! More vids! I'd like to move to BC, but it's too expensive.
@@tomsoil9909 Ain’t that the truth! No shortage of folks moving away to Alberta these days for exactly the reason you mention.
Glad you enjoyed this video brother. It was a long one, but too much important stuff which simply could not be left out (eg: the torque wrench challenge) 😂😂😂
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 My wife and I remarried on our 10th anniversary in Victoria back in 1990! Great place back then!! I still have a few friends there. Including you! Tea at 3 Scott? See you there!!
I'm excited about how safe it's going to be
With our mud around here, we should be good for at least another 75,000 cubic meters!
Con forms lo mejor de tuberias y mucho más excelente video scott saludos desde europa 1969💪🇺🇲
Thank you brother. Glad you enjoyed it!!!
Been changing boom pipe and elbows for 45 years. Thompsons Titans Schwing and now Alliances. One thing I've found is I think Schwings might have more common elbows. When looking at Alliances I've noticed some tighter shorter radiused elbows that wear quicker and you have to keep a eye on them. Schwing pipe wears differently on certain booms too especially on some of the cross over pipes like on the 39 meter. I think our best time on a 61 meter was 6 hours with about 8 guys. Have fun.
"Dan wanna do something fun?"
A smart man (Dan) "Probably not"
lol!!!! He is indeed the wise one of the group 😂😂😂
Always beware when certain people ask you questions like that 😅
Have you ever seen the little spacer on the Conforms diversion valve it keeps the grout out so you can grease it. Thompsons used them on their swivels.
So yes, I remember swing them in the catalogue years ago and had wondered about trying them at the swivel gaskets as well (was told it wouldn’t work).
this is insanely interesting
Glad you’re enjoying it. Lots of great info shared by Mike here.
Man, if that's all the wear you have after that many yards you must be pumping apple sauce🤣 Down here in NC that would be like Swiss cheese by then.
Turning pipes is quick and easy if you are motivated. Problem these days is mostly button pushers very few with any skills. Im sure Putz will find a way to put wear sensors in soon so no one has to open a clamp anymore😆 Don't worry I've changed a pipe or two, no keyboard warrior here.✌
It’s crazy right? People generally don’t believe the yardage we get up here until they see it first hand.
Definitely a fan of spinning/rotating pipes if I’m an owner/operator and/or have an operator whom is competent to do so. As you mentioned though, it’s getting tougher and tougher these days to find operators whom are willing, or even efficient to do it. Most guys just want to pump the concrete and hang the keys up on the board at days.
As Mike had mentioned in the video, when calculating out what it can actually cost to have operators in the yard spinning pipe, the small-ish amount of added life from the pipe doesn’t always justify the labour cost.
I definitely thought the major wear would be the elbows, and 45/90 pipes...
Same as me. This twin-wall stuff doesn’t seem to be quite as predictable as the old-school hardened single-wall pipe and cast manganese elbows was/is.
luv it already
We were really excited about this one!!!
Ooft definitely let some cubes go on the shelf there buddy 😂 can't put a price on piece of mind though
I know right? There’s a couple pieces in there which would have caused us issue sooner rather than later, but much of it was still in good shape. I’m just not a fan of mix ‘N matching new/old stuff on our busier fleet equipment (this thing is out every day). It’s easier just to bite the bullet after 7+ years of use and swap it out while we have it in the shop.
Definitely sucks though, some of that pipe probably still had another 20,000 cubic yards left in it.
gray tape be for you put ya rubbers on saves them filling up with grout and wd40 in side all the clamps stops the clamps pinching on the rubbers
If the conform pipe is heavier, im assuming it will decrease the weight rating of your tip section?
So standard weight boom pipe is 29.5 pounds per foot (filled with concrete). There are a good amount of booms which are not rated for standard weight pipe and require a “weight restricted” classification of boom pipe to be used (typically around 28 pounds per foot, filled with concrete).
This is absolutely something that needs to be discussed with your manufacturer for definitive answers.
And yes, we actually did have a boom that was rated for 280 pounds tip-weight with lightweight boom pump, and the manufacturer had advised us that using standard weight pipe would reduce the tip-weight rating to 210 pounds.
I cannot emphasize enough here, talk to your manufacture and get something in writing.
Could you imagine Dan’s wife thinking he had the day off and he chose to spend it changing boom pipe on a non Gform pump 😂
Lol. Make sure you don't tell her. I think she might possibly have been doing so mowing or other such task 😂
@@dannpriebe hahahaha, keep it and you’re gonna start realizing why guys like Granite’s over MRs - more sleeping room 😂
Just wait until she finds out that I’ll be dragging him down to our yard on Sunday for the upcoming pump rodeo!!! 😂😂😂
@canadianconcretepumper1979 you better come up with a really believable story if you plan on trying to pull that off😂😂😂😂
@@dannpriebe we need to get Baldeep’s 38ZZ down to the yard on a Sunday/holiday Monday and settle this RZ versus ZZ debate once and for all!!!
Please have a video in which thing to know before buying boompump
I will definitely put that one on the list for future videos 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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Thanks for watching brotha!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Why not use ultra sonic surface testors for wall thickness and eliminate the need for disassembly to check wall thickness? Fast easy and produces a history for each test site establishing when to remove for actual mechanical testing of any section below your min. specs. and allows for testing anywhere not limited to the ends of pipe sections. Costs would be a fraction of using thickness micrometer. Ray Stormont PS these testors can detect layer thickness of different substrates i.e. paint steell concrete residue etc.
Ultrasonic thickness testers will not work with-wall pipe. Typically, when measuring from the outside of the pipe, they will measure only the mild steel outer shell of the pipe but not the hardened inner lining.
The used pipes have fair bit of meat left on them, do you sell them as second hand or leave them for spares?
We generally keep them for spares.
1 inc thickness or what else?
Who did your Conforms guy work for in Vegas do you know.
I’ll ask Mike again (he’s told me multiple times but I’ve since forgotten). I do know that he pumped the Mandalay Bay project as well as the Encore tower.
What was that you were spraying on the outside of that gasket like a silicone to keep it from drying out and cracking and rotting
Light film of lubricant (WD40 and/or silicone line works great) just to make closing up the clamps a little easier.
We normally put the red grease on the outside of the seal and give the inside of the clamps a little bit of grease too
@@danieln2707 I’m not a fan of greasing the outside of the gasket as I find that it’s sticky/messy and can sometimes actually make the clamps for difficult to close up (especially when a guy drops the rubber in the dirt) 😂😂😂
Just my personal preference to use a light film of spray-lube mostly.
I use a 3ft 5 to 3 steel reducer on my tip. You must know of it, 6 ft if reducer is your preference?
So we prefer a separate 5-4 followed by a 4-3. Reason being, when we’re running a 3” tip-hose we just simply remove the 4-3 and connect up the 4”.
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Also, with a 5 to 4 and a 4 to 3, if it plugs you can often get away with get away with just taking off a 3ft 4 to 3 instead of a 6 ft 5 to 3.
@@dannpriebe they don't make 6 foot 5 to 3's. Do you even pump Bro?
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 makes sense. We run the 1 foot 5 to 4 for all our regular walls and footing.
@@Dex01-Z_WingZero I've seen some pretty long ones before. At least 5 ft
do they use thinner pipe on the straight section to save weight?
Some booms specify as “weight restricted” and use a thinner wall, or smaller diameter pipeline to reduce weight.
what is brand of pipe?? pm??proline??
Conforms “Endurance” series twin-wall pipe is what we installed here today.
Pipe appears to be powder coated finish.
The pipes which came off were factory installed from Putzmeister. The boom kit which we installed was ConForms purchased through, and painted at Alliance. To the best of my knowledge, both Alliance as well as Putzmiester use sprayed on epoxy paint.
I also had another question for you you know you guys replaced all of the boom pipe but what about the pipe that goes from the hopper to the deck itself does that ever wear out or is it just always the boom pipes that always wear out only and that's it
The swing out, elbows and reducer definitely wear out! They have their own specs as well
So I actually have a video from a few weeks prior in which we had the turret and deck-pipe apart on this same machine. We replaced the turret, elbows, and gaskets. The pipe was still in great shape. The deck pipe we need to address a few pieces within the next 6-12 months here.
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Hahahaha yes it does