Union Pacific Brand New Tier 4 Locomotive on Amtrak
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- čas přidán 21. 01. 2017
- Here's a video of Union Pacific 3012 (EMD SD70AH, Tier 4 unit) leading Amtrak Coast Starlight train #11 at Los Angeles Union Station including Southwest Chief with AMTK 822 Heritage III on 1/20/17.
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The Tier 4's look pretty good actually.
Good to see the "EMD" style windshields back.
Gabriel Perez yes the teardrop windows are so good
When I worked for CSX we had nothing that nice and shiny.
I guess it's because our division included the main shops & they'd route the almost-crapped-out engines our way, so when it was time, they could limp in for the overhaul.
One thing CSX has over up is they spent some nice money on some of the rebuilds. I've seen SD40-2 rebuilds with repainted interior slightly larger cab new interior lighting. What do you get at up? fresh coat of interior and exterior paint. Interior may have been painted over some of the previous layer of dirt. New inward facing camera and a small addition to the electronics maybe new seats . Everything else looks the same as in 1975.
I’ve seen at least one brand new version of a csx locomotive but it’s rare
Radiator housing just fits under the platform roof
Awesome catch of AMTK #822 P40DC Phase III Heritage Unit and UP EMD SD70AH-T4!♥️👍
I wonder if they make a "New Engine" scented tree lol
i'll buy 10!!!!
They deteriorate very quickly due to lack of proper hygienic practices. Pre and post covid.
Just something about the smell of diesel in the morning 🌄
Really amazing video! I love those new Tier IV EMD units!
Tier IV are not EMD anymore. They belong to Caterpillar now. Caterpillar should do a rebranding to it's locomotive company so people should know them as CAT locomotives from now on. And nothing to love about them either....that growling V12 four stroke engine sounds nothing like the good old 710 engine....V16 and two stroke. The screaming sound of two stroke engines is what consacrated the EMD image...
sorindncs Caterpillar owns the company called Progress Rail. This happened years ago. Progress rail released a press statement saying the company EMD is no longer, however they will still use the EMD name and logo on their locomotives, as well as Progress rail.
I think the SD 70ACe Tier is spectacular. The teardrop windows are again brought back. The GEVO looks to me like most GE locomotives.
Beautiful night photography!!
pls note that up has ordered 100 unit of them as 3000 class series, #3012-3099 is the production unit while #3000-3011 is a 12 emdx demo unit currently on testing at other carrier, once testing is complete the emd will hand over 12 demo unit to union pacific, of 15 unit #1501 will be used as testbed while #1603&1604 which has only 4 power axle will go to bnsf.
Cool. Thanks for the heads up!
Nice crisp clear audio great shot content nice nights work...professional shoot
Awesome catch Snuffy, beautiful locomotive! Excellent video as always.
- Balerio
Thank you!
That is one sweet engine. The UP of course.
Gorgeous new Loco!
I'll say!
Love the bell on 822
Excellent video Snuffy.
Thanks!
Awesome , it is the most special Amtrak what I ever seen .
Thanks!
Nice mise ene sene shot framing very atmospheric there well done great framing
Nice video snuffy; I can't believe that AMTK heritage came back
Thanks!
Sweet. So new and shiny. Thanks for sharing. I liked and subbed
OMG THE PAINT THO!
This video was good and I liked it
I love trains
👍 Nice catch , snuffy !
Awesome Video
Just Super. Well done.
Awesome! *Coast Starlight!*
Amoral 822...The type engine we lovingly call 'mud missles' after bridge disaster in Louisiana years ago...
Nice catch. I've been watching for some of these on the Golden State Route and I'm sure they've been past, but I haven't seen one yet. The flat top should make them easy to spot.
Thanks! This unit is currently at West Colton yard, FYI.
Nice videos dude!
Beautiful!!!
Beautiful
excellent. great job.
awesome train video
Thanks!
Awesome video!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
lovely...amazing
excellent video
Thanks!
wow amazing
i love t4 aces!
The headlights weren't on when the locomotive departed the station.....
Awesome bruh
Nice video, I subbed you...
great video snuffy, the locomotive looks brand new and somewhere down the line this model will be in ho or n scale. nice catch snuffy
Hopefully an Athearn Genesis HO scale model,..in NS colors! Hoping NS gets a few of these to get rid of those GE locos! I like EMD better!
Thanks!
A locomotive that is 10 times better then any P42 will ever be!!!!
Do these have *Soot,* then? Those P42 have a little when working hard. It was cool to see it when northbound.
THAT IS CRAZY THE WHOLE TRAIN HAS LESS THAN 5" OF CLEARANCE
if it fits it ships!!!
The dash 9s are still my personal favorites
I might have been in that 3012 some time ago. I don't know, i've been in so many most don't stand out in particular.
Pure muscle!i Like this monsters
Sounds Good
awesome video....like friend
Nice unit
Wow amazing video! What camera are you using?
I agree with Standard Gauge Railroader .. WOW .. Very Nice .. Question do the cops bug you at all while recording ?
I love the GE GOVE
its the wabtec conspiracy--they will own it all!!
Nice catch homie! Snuffy what's the update with the LAUPT run through tracks?
Thanks! I haven't heard of any update about Union Station.
EMD's Ying-Ying sound has gone with tier-4 XP... but it still awesome.
There could be a way to get a ying-ying while still meeting tier 4.
Where’s the bell on Amtrak engines?
What was the first passenger train? I'm guessing the Southwest Chief?
0:36 Whoop!
My apologies if this has been asked before, but what kind of camera are you using here for 4K?
Do tier 4 locomotives run on the up main line?
Stupid question here - Would I be correct in assuming that when a regular locomotive pulls an Amtrak, that the RR company provides the crews all the way through from Point A to Point B, etc?
Fantástico!!!
Thanks!
E P I C C A T C H S N U F F Y ! ! ! LOVE THE SD70ACe-T4 UNIT!!!!!!
Thanks!
2:06 that p42 idle tho 😥
New Prouduct Corp They are SD70AH-T4's not ACe-T4s
Standard Gauge Railroader unfortunately That's a SD70AH-T4 my friend.
Nice train
Is Amtrak 822 based on EMD SD70M-4 (SD70AH T_4) ??
Nice catch dude! That Amtrack train must have been short on power or something.
A P42 failed, hence the Tier 4 ACe.
@@AVeryRandomPerson it was how it failed is what he tried to answer
I like when freight engines are on Amtrak trains
What's the max speed on these EMD tier 4 units? I would think that they can move fast if they're on Amtrak.
Matthew Sanders Oh, that's fast! In the cab above the window there's usually a sticker with the max speed of the locomotive on it. I haven't been UP locomotives so I really don't know.
Got Damn Snuffy was in Los Angeles? Kewl...
The problem with the loader is it isn't working hard all the time and the tech that replaced the entire system stated he'd heard from the factory they were having a lot of problems with that. Model loader with the emissions systems. The sensor was replaced 9 times before the owner said fix it this time or give me my money back. That's when they replaced the entire dos system and that fixed it.
You gotta love youtube. about 50 questions and not a single answer to any of those questions. Same as with most of the categories on here!
Nice! Did you check the label to see if this Unit came from (Manufactured) Canada or Mexico?
I did not see it but it was assembled in Mexico.
Thanks for the response!
Did I miss it, or was a Pacific Parlour car not on that #11?
It wasn't on for some reason.
Are the brand new Union Pacific EMD SD70AH-T4s going to replace the older SD series models, such as SD40s, SD45s, or SD60s?
And it won't be long 'til every single freight locomotive is an EMD SD70AH-T4 or ET44C4.
I like both Tier 4 locomotives, can't wait to actually see the EMD!
Btw, what happened to the Metrolink Tier 4?
I heard it's going to be in service sometime in late 2017.
It's great that EMD went back to the better-looking windows, but that electronic bell doesn't get it.
Wait, electronic?
UP hauling Amtrak?
I've seen that, but it is unusual.
I wonder if the cars were also powered. They seemed to have some kind of engines in them, and at least one compressor. They looked & sounded too big for air conditioning.
0.56 the American flag is facing the wrong direction on the right side of the loco. The Union (stars) should be leading in the direction of travel.
Not according to flag code. The only exception is the military.
How much combat XP Does it take to research tho?
Not as much as it takes to finish research on me.
somehow i went from anime to this... how does that work?
The power of will
Honestly I think GE did a better job making their tier 4 units look like the normal GEVO. EMD didn't "slim down" the final product.
i like the EMD version more
+phillyslasher I like the cab of the GEVO the way it is.
The ACe's design honestly looked awkward with a chunk of the long hood missing. The hump doesn't really detract from the appearance any more than that of the ET44AC anyways - the 70ACe's is longer, but the ET44's sticks up like a middle finger. While I like that EMD resurrected teardrop windows, the way they designed the nose slopes to be reminiscent of GE makes the face look worse than older notch-nose SD70s.
I do have to say, though, they managed to make Armor Yellow look somewhat appealing, with the way it's applied to those huge flared radiators. Which is an accomplishment for anything not a covered wagon or a DDA40X.
I like the EMD version more as well. Tired of looking at GE locos all the time! Wish NS would get some of those EMD T4 locos and get rid of some of the GE locos! EMD all the way with me! Judging from the video,the EMD sounds great with that new 1010 engine! People need to give this thing a chance instead of bashing it! I'm not bashing GE,..I'm just tired of seeing all GE all the time!
+NorfolkSouthern1068..... Sure would have been great though if EMD/Cat could have found a way to keep the 710 two cycle and meet the ridiculous ways that the tree hugging EPA try to get the NOX reductions.... why can they just produce better fuel, like they do in Europe, without loading up the engine manufacturers and their engines with all kinds of complicated add - ons and afterburn treatment systems.
The new semis of the last 5 or 6 years are getting worse fuel mileage now than they were before they implemented tier 2..... while the very same federal government is Still buying NEW 2 cycle Detroits (6V53T and 8V92TA's) for use in military vehicles and "other" gov't applications... WITHOUT Any of Tier 3 or 4 regulated add - on's !! HYPOCRITES !!!
Back to EMD... to me, EMD will Never be an EMD without that big 2 Stroke under the hood, any longer.... at least not here in the US.... they're still producing them and shipping them everywhere else around the world in the various configurations to suit different roads in their respective countries, with the 710 two cycle.
As I remember talking to an EMD engineer involved in the Tier-4 project they were redesigning the engine to meet Tier-4 specs without using DPF fluid. GE GEVO's don't use DPF and meet Tier-4 specs primarily because the railroad's didn't want the additional expense and trouble DPF brings to new diesels.
My neighbor runs a loader at a gravel pit and 2 years ago they bought a new Volvo 220 front end loader and 7 months old they lost 217 hours of service because the DPF emissions system kept stopping him to regenerate. The fix? The service guy from the dealer had to replace the entire emissions system to get it to work properly and this was with a factory engineer working alongside the mechanic. Can you imagine a railroad loosing that many days of service on a new multi-million dollar locomotive? This is a perfect example of why the railroads don't want anything to do with DPF systems.
DPF also adds a ton of equipment to the locomotive to meet Tier-4 specs, so why bother if you can design the engine to meet the specs without using DPF. Personally I think we are going at it the wrong way in Europe construction equipment and diesel locomotives don't have to meet Tier-4 specs as they aren't the reason for the majority of pollution. It's the millions of cars that are the problem iIMHO.
DPF is the particulate filter, it doesn't use fluid. DEF is diesel exhaust fluid and is a separate system. Modern diesels use a combination of the two systems to meet emissions regulations. I don't know how they can engineer these systems out of new engines completely. Maybe there's some new tech?
Rick S
Oops thanks for the catch there Rick spellcheck strikes again.
GE was the first builder to meet tier 4 specs without using DEF as their customers here in the states said they wouldn't buy any locomotive that required it. Locomotives are expensive enough to buy and operate without having to equip all the fueling stations with an expensive additive. GE simply went back to work to find a way to meet tier 4 without any additive and they were successful, the EMD ran into the same problem with their new 4 stroke engine and had to do the same thing. I've driven a dump truck with a tie 4 engine and had the computer tell me after 5 hours of operation on the first day in service to pull over and start a cleaning cycle. Took 50 minutes before I could continue initially I ignored it until the computer cut my power to the point I could barely move in first gear. Imagine what the railroad would say if an engineer reported he was coming to a stop on a busy single track main line because he had to run a clean cycle on the emission controls! That is exactly why the railroads refused any new power that requires it. That dump truck I drove with it? Took 7 days to fix.
If the diesel is run hard and hot, an active regen should hardly ever be required. A lot of idling or slow running will cause the DPF to build soot and thus require an active regen. Most of the time in cases such as yours, a sensor is found to be at fault. It's kinda cool that diesels don't stink like they used to but the tech needs improvement.
I caughe one of those in warner Robin's on the macon District!!
Can it run as fast as the regular Amtrack engines?
Robert Heinkel Top speed on these is usually 70
why build new ones when they have 300 on a track in the desert
One of the reasons is: Government regulations penalizing use of the older engines.
vegasdavetv k
because train engines do not last forever....
Probably damaged beyond repair.
Zack Kennedy,
That's not necessarily the case for the locomotives.
Shiny 🤤
This is made by emd correct? Sounds like a GE idle
I believe EMD is now using 4-cycle engines like GE. I think the 2-cycle engines sounded much better!
No more REAL EMD 710 2 - Cycle engines...EVER!!! For new-build...power! Welcome to the damn world of Tier DAMN 4. The only consolation is that EMD 645 and 710 rebild will continue to run until after most of us are DEAD. But it's indeed very SAD that the era of the whine of brand new EMD locomotives is now over. Very sad indeed! Even as they finally came back with the EMD windows up front!
You need to pay your CATera operator more hes quiet talented
that there's a freakin' unit
Wow,shinny
I live in central Ohio and when I was a small child I got my first train set that was it I’ve liked trains ever since,,, I hope they never get rid of trains in the United States however I would like to see them run better,,, not just the trains but the system they run on,,, when I was in Germany as a young man back in the early 80s we took trains all over the place you could set your watch by the 🚂 trains 🚊 if they said the train was leaving at 8 o’clock and you were there at 10 or 15 seconds after 8 o’clock you would most likely see the back of that train pulling out of the station many times I remember throwing my bag up on the back of the train and one of my family members giving me a hand up most of their trains were electric at that time I don’t know what they are now I haven’t been back to Germany 🇩🇪 for many years now however I knew they were safe and every big city and small village had a BH train station ,,,America needs that again we had that once before,,,, you should be able to take a train in America anywhere you want to go,,, safely and reliably the government needs to get involved and correct the situation our railroad is in shambles it’s OK for freight but we seem to kill passengers a large percentage of the time,,,, got to do something about this,,, i’ve always wanted to try a train ride on Amtrak but I would be very scared to ever try it you always hear about terrible train accidents on Amtrak,,,, I wish I Amtrak had scenic vacation getaways from coast-to-coast I could leave here in Ohio and go across 40 just like you were driving but you take the Amtrak instead and stop at the Indian reservations and the casinos and the Grand Canyon petrified forest Las Vegas all the scenic things and places and they could have Hotels and things along way so you could stay as long or as little as you wanted to go up through California see all the stuff to see in California turn around and come home it’d be the adventure of a lifetime,,,, could you imagine it????
Train probably can't go as fast as it could as nearly all freight locomotives today are geared at 70mph. The Amtrak unit is probably pushing the UP unit somewhat, being geared higher.
It might be 79 mph but i'll double check the next time in one.
Whats meant by tier?
EPA emmision compliance.
The higher the tier is, the cleaner the exhaust is coming out of the engine.
Stupid question of the day: why isn't Amtrak using its own locos?
Big Ole choo train......comin' done a choo train track.
Snuffy's cat, snuffy's cat!
can i have a go
Great Video! But...why? these engines are but weeks old and already rescueing Amtrak?
Or maybe the genesis locos are showing their age. As much as I like the genesis locos Amtrak is going to be getting the Siemens SC-44 Charger.
It just happened to be at Dunsmuir and UP decided to give it to Amtrak #14 and headed all the way to LA on #11. :)
Very cool, I saw 4 togeather today in Northern Ohio!!
RB Railfan
When an Amtrak train has a locomotive go down the host railroad doesn't care how new or old the locomotive they provide is just that it is reliable and able to do the job.
I was working a work train dumping ballast from side dump cars when dispatch called me and ordered me to stop dumping stone and get the train to a siding 8 miles away and then go rescue a dead Amtrak train. The mow foreman was mad but we did it then grabbed the Amtrak train 24 miles from the siding then had to haul it 64 miles to its last stop in Boston. My power?
1941 built ALCO S-2 switcher no mu. We had to remove a drain cock on an air tank to feed compressed air to the Difco side dump cars. No other power was available for the work train. Man you should have seen the built up carbon being thrown out of the turbocharger by the time we got to where we were dumping the trap rock that old girl was running better than I had ever heard her run. No speedometer on that engine but I timed her to 52 mph at one point but you should of seen the looks at the few stations we had to stop at with that old ALCO on the point. The passengers were just happy to be back on the move even though there was no lights or air conditioning.. Only problem I had was after arriving in Boston was an Amtrak train master who asked me why a switcher was used instead of a road engine? I told him it was the only engine available closest to the train, we're here aren't we? He just looked at me and walked away.
Why use an old ALCO switcher? The GP-10 they were going to use had a water pump fail and the old ALCO S-2 was the only other available engine.
You never know what the day is gonna bring.
If there's a broken down train blocking the mainline, I imagine UP sends whatever locomotive can get there first.
Loooooove your video.