@@PALX50 yeah MbL apparently wondered why a guy who had breeched the top 40 in the world still pretended like he was a noob to his chat. Gotta love that self depreciating humour.
Yesterday I watched Viper playing WC3 and was wondering when Grubby will play AOE and I just woke up and found out that cool thumbnail, thanks to this videos I will buy the game and come back after so many years.
This was ridiculously entertaining and informative at the same time. Thanks a lot Viper and Grubby for that great content. U are a really chilled duo. Please share more of such stuff in the future. Its nice to see how effective this kind of coaching is. Also the naturally occuring questions are a good thing for beginners. Also really funny how u both messed up your very first game. which shows, that a new game is always kind of overwhelming even for rts pros like you two are.
In my opinion, WC3 is a very unusual game because unlike almost any other RTS, it’s got a lot of RPG elements where, more than how you build your base and units, how you creep, level, spend points, and acquire and distribute drops matter a lot. That’s why it is able to present a very involved and story driven single player, because you’re very involved in playing your heroes. Its legacy is spawning World of Warcraft and DotA. Meanwhile, AoE is a much more standard RTS and much easier to understand. It makes sense that a world-class RTS player can have success in AoE 2 after a couple training matches, whereas Viper struggled hard in WC3. I’d love to see both players after a few weeks of training, though. I have a feeling that they’d both be pretty dang good.
This editing is on point. Double screen, focusing, various other features. My eyes didn't get bored at all. Besides all the hilarious stuff happened during games
This disserves thousands off likes. You both are so skilled pkayers, teacher and fast learning guys. Also you cunnicate so well speaking a non native language of yours that I was abble to understand almost everything even not been a native english speaker too. So natural, didatic and intuive. I enjoyd a lot.
It's such a wholesome experience to watch my favorite two streamers/content creators play each others games. The two games that I played and enjoyed most in my life. I played uncountable hours of WC3 in my teens and rediscovered my love for RTS with AOE2 HD (😬) and played it and followed the competitive scene ever since.
Grubby did a great job of making sure that he was always spending resources, keeping his army nice and large. I've really been enjoying this cross-over, I hope you do this with more people/games in the future!
This was a lot of fun to watch. I never played Age of Empires but grew up playing Warcraft 3. I've been following Grubby playing competitive Warcraft 3 for quite a while. Watching this video of Viper teaching Grubby has given me a better understanding of Age of Empires than I've ever truly had. Viper, I also see that you're wearing the new Manchester United home jersey. I'm a fan of United myself, although its been very hard to watch them recently! Hopefully they get back on the winning path soon. 😂 This has been a great series with each of you teaching the other your respective games. Keep it up!
1:10:05 that moment right there is what makes you fall in love with AoE2, it's like watching a medieval battle happen right in front of your eyes. Yes it might not be the best animation and models but it leaves room for your imagination to see how the battle played out
Awesome collab! The greatest players of my two favorite RTS playing together are a sight to behold. Grubby did great with your calm and detailed guidance, you're such a good teacher. There was some perfectly reasonable moments of confusion at times coming from differences between the games but we could also see Grubby's skill kicking in when he felt more comfortable - for example his army massing macro was high level and he showcased sharp intuition with walling choices. Do you plan on going through campaigns of Warcraft 3, Viper? They serve as a fantastic tutorial to almost all the units and heroes in the game while also having captivating story which is honestly better than many actual books.
Hey Viper, you know that orc burrows in warcraft 3 function a lot like TCs in aoe2. That might have made it easier to explain to grubby the concept of garrisoning to shoot, ungarrisoning etc!
Would liek to see more of this colab :D two guys who still love their game. Since decades they try to entertain, educated and being on top of the world.
21:18 there is actually a hotkey for both "all idle vills" and "all idle military" currently. ctrl + shift+ . or , something like that for default I don't remember
Very fun, ha you whould have given Grubby the grid hotkeys, would have been so much easier for him. Oh by the way you can now have hotkey conflicts in AoE4 (finally!). Also, map bans.
This is a cool video, as someone who enjoys aoe4 and is a pretty solid rank I have been wanting to try aoe2 but the game just feels so different, maybe this will help me start.
Aoe devs: we gotta figure out how to fix TG ELO Viper: let's play a team game with a guy who's played 2 games online. Honestly though you can tell this guy has some talent. Probably could be top 50 in a year.
tbh, i feel like he could be top 50 even quicker, if he actually was willing to really grind the game (not guessing that is going to happen, but would be really nice to see). He has been an absolute top player in one of the most competitive rts games for a good amount of time (wc3), was great in sc2, did great in aoe4, is not intimidated by data/ pure information but actually embraces it (which can be one of the most overwhelming parts of aoe2 i think, the huge scope of the game and hidden information one simply has to learn) and most importantly, appears to learn fast and be great at tactical and strategical thinking. But yeah, poor devs working on fixing tg elo 11
So if I get thumbring I get 100% accruacy on the archers? Well yes, but no. Ok but if I get thumbring and ballistics I will always hit? Well yes, but no. Explaining AOE2 ranged fire is hard.
2 of 2 Games out of Sync, the reason i stopped playing 3v3 and 4v4 ranked Teamgames in Age of Empires 2 - there are just too many games someone crashing / disconnecting or the game going out of sync. Works way better in Age of Empires 4 with 6 oder 8 players.
AoE2 noob question: Why not transition from sheep/boar/berries to the deer with another farm there and instead build these very early and expensive/wood-heavy farms? Because of fear of getting raided? If the latter, why not put a tower there and be done with it? Really hard to grasp coming from AoE4. Thanks for any info...
Congratulations on your first ranked game Grubby! You can now officially challenge T90Official to a 1v1
And possibly even win 😂😂😂
@@andrewgus8763 I wanted to say that. No fair.
Lmao the poor guy is a 2k1 elo player and argually top 50-70 atm and still catching strays.
@@PALX50 yeah MbL apparently wondered why a guy who had breeched the top 40 in the world still pretended like he was a noob to his chat. Gotta love that self depreciating humour.
@T90Official 🤣🤣🤣
Yesterday I watched Viper playing WC3 and was wondering when Grubby will play AOE and I just woke up and found out that cool thumbnail, thanks to this videos I will buy the game and come back after so many years.
This was ridiculously entertaining and informative at the same time. Thanks a lot Viper and Grubby for that great content. U are a really chilled duo. Please share more of such stuff in the future.
Its nice to see how effective this kind of coaching is. Also the naturally occuring questions are a good thing for beginners.
Also really funny how u both messed up your very first game.
which shows, that a new game is always kind of overwhelming even for rts pros like you two are.
Grubby even played another 1v1 ranked without Viper and won, true talent
Yeah, I mean, that game was way longer than expected, but still, a win is a win, nothing can take away that.
In my opinion, WC3 is a very unusual game because unlike almost any other RTS, it’s got a lot of RPG elements where, more than how you build your base and units, how you creep, level, spend points, and acquire and distribute drops matter a lot. That’s why it is able to present a very involved and story driven single player, because you’re very involved in playing your heroes. Its legacy is spawning World of Warcraft and DotA. Meanwhile, AoE is a much more standard RTS and much easier to understand. It makes sense that a world-class RTS player can have success in AoE 2 after a couple training matches, whereas Viper struggled hard in WC3. I’d love to see both players after a few weeks of training, though. I have a feeling that they’d both be pretty dang good.
I think is has to do with Grubby has experience with AOE4
It hurts to see someone playing better than me on their second game
@@thoughtful1233 did you see his micro skills ? no need to feel hurt.
This editing is on point. Double screen, focusing, various other features. My eyes didn't get bored at all. Besides all the hilarious stuff happened during games
This disserves thousands off likes. You both are so skilled pkayers, teacher and fast learning guys. Also you cunnicate so well speaking a non native language of yours that I was abble to understand almost everything even not been a native english speaker too. So natural, didatic and intuive. I enjoyd a lot.
It's such a wholesome experience to watch my favorite two streamers/content creators play each others games. The two games that I played and enjoyed most in my life. I played uncountable hours of WC3 in my teens and rediscovered my love for RTS with AOE2 HD (😬) and played it and followed the competitive scene ever since.
Grubby is not a Warcraft 3 pro, he is a Warcraft legend, the GOAT.
Man wish I could learn AoE2 from Vipey, a lifetime experience 😍
You already did by watching this video...
We all can, he posts regularly, just watch his videos and subscribe 👍
This is an awesome crossover I've watched both for years Viper / grubby playing warcraft 3 and Heroes of the storm
Blessed thumbnail
Grubby seems like a cool guy. This collab has been quite enjoyable.
Haha the 2nd game final engagement was basically Grubby using WC3 skills to micro and crush the opponent's army. Well played!
Grubby did a great job of making sure that he was always spending resources, keeping his army nice and large. I've really been enjoying this cross-over, I hope you do this with more people/games in the future!
Long time watcher of both Viper and Grubby and this is some of the best content either of you have put out love it!! hope to see more!!!
This was a lot of fun to watch. I never played Age of Empires but grew up playing Warcraft 3. I've been following Grubby playing competitive Warcraft 3 for quite a while. Watching this video of Viper teaching Grubby has given me a better understanding of Age of Empires than I've ever truly had.
Viper, I also see that you're wearing the new Manchester United home jersey. I'm a fan of United myself, although its been very hard to watch them recently! Hopefully they get back on the winning path soon. 😂
This has been a great series with each of you teaching the other your respective games. Keep it up!
Guess you should pick up Age then :)
The thumbnail is on point.
Thumbnail is a work of art!!
Omg that thumbnail, hilarious
Super entertaining and educative. Thanks for the content, Grubby and Vipi!
fck yes, I love it when crossovers like this happen between people I've been following for years :)
Loving this collab between you two!
Im so glad that these 2 are teaming up.
The improvement between game 1 and 2 was kinda nutty 😳
Grubby and Viper will cause a black hole in the chill-continuum, too much chill in one place.
1:10:05 that moment right there is what makes you fall in love with AoE2, it's like watching a medieval battle happen right in front of your eyes. Yes it might not be the best animation and models but it leaves room for your imagination to see how the battle played out
Byzantine was a ancient Greek city and it was part of the Roman Empire. That’s why the voice line in the game is in Latin and sounds Italian.
54:53 That was a pro-player luck! When I played I often lost meat with one stray arrow, shot from a TC at the wrong moment. 11
Awesome collab! The greatest players of my two favorite RTS playing together are a sight to behold. Grubby did great with your calm and detailed guidance, you're such a good teacher. There was some perfectly reasonable moments of confusion at times coming from differences between the games but we could also see Grubby's skill kicking in when he felt more comfortable - for example his army massing macro was high level and he showcased sharp intuition with walling choices.
Do you plan on going through campaigns of Warcraft 3, Viper? They serve as a fantastic tutorial to almost all the units and heroes in the game while also having captivating story which is honestly better than many actual books.
Grubby got violated in the the thumbnail:)
Love the thumbnail!
Hey Viper, you know that orc burrows in warcraft 3 function a lot like TCs in aoe2. That might have made it easier to explain to grubby the concept of garrisoning to shoot, ungarrisoning etc!
Would liek to see more of this colab :D two guys who still love their game. Since decades they try to entertain, educated and being on top of the world.
The satisfied smile on vipers face is like a father’s watching his son walk
"so to explain how you were ahead... it depends" - was waiting for this answer :D
omg that thumbnail is soooooooo good!!
Btw, Byzantines, from Bisanzio (Costantinople), capital of the Roman empire of the east, after its split from the west one (with Rome as capital).
fav 2 streamers collabing. I'm in tears!
"nice noob civ" I really like this guy already, hehehe, hope he becomes a new pro aoe2 player :p
I love the thumbnails on these clips
Two of my favorite pros playing two of my favorite games!
Aoe2 is the best
21:18 there is actually a hotkey for both "all idle vills" and "all idle military" currently. ctrl + shift+ . or , something like that for default I don't remember
Props to Grubby, excellent job! Nice content Viper, keep it up :)
Be hold you may watching a new legend rises up
Yooooo Grubby is my favorite RTS player outside of AoE, very happy to see him in AoE
LMAO THE THUMBNAIL
kings would fight to have the privilege of being trained by "viper"
GG! Very satisfying to see such fast improvement.
holy moly im so impressed witht he unit blocking around the scouts in game 2. 1:01:50
nice catch. I think he is good with that because in WC3 unit blocking & surrounding is a major part of army & battle micro.
The thumbnail is *chef's kiss* ❤️
Actually quite funny and interesting watching one pro teach another pro his game
2:25 AoE2 in a nutshell. 11
Very fun, ha you whould have given Grubby the grid hotkeys, would have been so much easier for him.
Oh by the way you can now have hotkey conflicts in AoE4 (finally!). Also, map bans.
damn this is so interesting to watch! Got into it from day9 but this is way better
Really enjoy these videos. Unfortunately very rare; hence the more enjoyable!
Thanks Bipah!
Legendary Editing. *4 hours later* I laughed so hard!
You should show him using shift+click with scout and other units so he doesnt have to micro so often.
Grubby - "the description is vague on how accurate the arrows gonna be"
Spirit of the law - did someone say vague? 😎
Grubby is really likeable. I watch both of you separately this was a cool colab and you two were funny together 😆
This is a cool video, as someone who enjoys aoe4 and is a pretty solid rank I have been wanting to try aoe2 but the game just feels so different, maybe this will help me start.
These thumbnails are on point.
Damn this Rock Paper scissors match was intense
I saw the aoe4 collab but since I've never played it I skipped. This series looks quite promising!
Nice video viper! I like the labeled sections made it nice
I like how Grubby's 'race' is specified as Orc on wiki page, implying he may not be human.
This is a really helpful video for new players
lol Grubby had a warm welcome with Double Game Crash :D
Aoe devs: we gotta figure out how to fix TG ELO
Viper: let's play a team game with a guy who's played 2 games online.
Honestly though you can tell this guy has some talent. Probably could be top 50 in a year.
tbh, i feel like he could be top 50 even quicker, if he actually was willing to really grind the game (not guessing that is going to happen, but would be really nice to see). He has been an absolute top player in one of the most competitive rts games for a good amount of time (wc3), was great in sc2, did great in aoe4, is not intimidated by data/ pure information but actually embraces it (which can be one of the most overwhelming parts of aoe2 i think, the huge scope of the game and hidden information one simply has to learn) and most importantly, appears to learn fast and be great at tactical and strategical thinking.
But yeah, poor devs working on fixing tg elo 11
good stuff!
GOAT
Both legendary games with the most famous players and advocates of the respective game
I follow both on twitch
So if I get thumbring I get 100% accruacy on the archers?
Well yes, but no.
Ok but if I get thumbring and ballistics I will always hit?
Well yes, but no.
Explaining AOE2 ranged fire is hard.
Phenomenal thumbnail.
Haha good stuff. My two favorite RTSes... though WC3 more due to the custom maps.
great colab look forward to seeing more
i love every single RTS , thats why i made my own channel ,and this series so awesome !
I love both of you pros. respect grubby and viper
I learned a lot from this. Thank you
epic two of my favourite rts players :D
2 of 2 Games out of Sync, the reason i stopped playing 3v3 and 4v4 ranked Teamgames in Age of Empires 2 - there are just too many games someone crashing / disconnecting or the game going out of sync. Works way better in Age of Empires 4 with 6 oder 8 players.
I'm over here, taking notes.
this was great! do one with beasty with sc2!
2 av mine favoritt youtubers begynner plutselig og spille samme! elsker d!! j har fulgt dere begge en stund...
For training, you should have just shown they must be making cavalier song.
That cataphract joke is spot on
Keep it up Grubby! Aoe2 Best rts ever!!!!
You grabbied my head by your thumbnail.
Does seem a bit unfair for a noob Vs a noob, but one has viper coaching lol
Yeah but the noob is multi wolrdchamp in an nother rts
I like this guy too Viper
Do an Arena FFA with Grubby against wtiiwarcraft
welcome benedict cumberbatch to AoE2, great content vipi!!!
AoE2 noob question: Why not transition from sheep/boar/berries to the deer with another farm there and instead build these very early and expensive/wood-heavy farms? Because of fear of getting raided? If the latter, why not put a tower there and be done with it? Really hard to grasp coming from AoE4. Thanks for any info...
21:26 BUILD A HOUSE!
Lets do a tourney:
15 1v1's WC3 TFT
15 1v1's SC2
15 1v1's AOE2
15 1v1's AOE4
would be funny if you guys played northgard, it's a mix of aoe and war3 honestly lol
this guy's first boar lure was better than mine after 1k games feelsbadman
more of this, very interesting! ;)
did you make him not use grid hotkeys? (We missed that conversation it looks like.)
it hurts to watch these villagers scramble under the TC with 10 sheep :D
So good video, please do more with Grubby!