The Unknown Side of MTG: Serra and the Creation of the Angels

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  • čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
  • Angels are undeniably one of Magic the Gathering’s most iconic creature types. With a first appearance back in the very first set, they have cemented themselves as the signature creature of white and have had enough variations throughout the game’s history and settings to eventually appear in every color. While this does put angels on a similar level to the likes of goblins or elves, what sets angels apart from most any other creature type that’s so ubiquitous is the unifying lore that ties every angel regardless of their home plane together.
    Script by Uncrowned Jules
    Editing by Pumkinswift
    ├ The List
    Intro: (0:00)
    The first Angel: (0:25)
    Serra and the creation of the angels: (1:41)
    Serra's Realm: (3:40)
    Serra's Story: (6:28)
    Radiant and the end of Serra's Realm: (9:21)
    Angels elsewhere - Alara and Ravnica: (11:46)
    Angels elsewhere - Innistrad: (13:53)
    Capenna and the Modern Story: (15:20)
    Conclusion: (18:20)
    #mtg #tcg #magicthegathering
    (Just a note, we have people who actually know the game very well making the scripts for this channel. As the owner of the channel (Theduellogs/hirumaredx) is a total newbie to the game.)

Komentáře • 98

  • @kennethacuna9996
    @kennethacuna9996 Před rokem +80

    more like this please!

    • @MagusFlorren
      @MagusFlorren Před rokem

      Yeah I agree. This was really nice to sink into

  • @joebob1533
    @joebob1533 Před rokem +85

    Good video. Few points
    1. Similar to angels, all dragons do descend from a singular source, the Ur-Dragon
    2. One of the most iconic angels Akroma was not created by Serra, but instead by an illusionist named Ixidor based upon his dead wife

    • @milessumida6770
      @milessumida6770 Před rokem +2

      Yes, but he created her on a plane that already had Serra Angels on it. I think that puts her in the same category as Avacyn.

    • @RedOphiuchus
      @RedOphiuchus Před rokem +5

      ​@@milessumida6770the thing is, Akroma isn't actually an angel in the lore like she is on her card. Everyone sees her as an angel and she performs all the functions of one but she's a living illusion not all that different from the ones Jace can make except made with much much much stronger magic.

    • @chadgrimwell8380
      @chadgrimwell8380 Před rokem

      ​@@RedOphiuchusshe was created in a plane where Serra angels exist means she was created base on their image. So she is somewhat connected to Serra.

    • @burnsboy101
      @burnsboy101 Před 9 měsíci

      Good comment. Few points
      1. Know body asked.

    • @milessumida6770
      @milessumida6770 Před 9 měsíci

      @@burnsboy101 Yeah, that is how comments work. Welcome to youtube, you'll adapt eventually.

  • @bobjones4469
    @bobjones4469 Před rokem +19

    Actually, dragons DO have a unifying story and you can make an entire video just based on the Elder Dragons, who are the original spawns of the Ur-Dragon, the proginator of ALL dragons in the mutli-verse. These Elder Dragons include the twins Ugin and Nichol Bolas, two of the most important figures in the entirety of MTG.

  • @kaleb5436
    @kaleb5436 Před rokem +19

    Something I really think is neat is that there was a 3 card mini story in which an angel (angel of finality) gets corrupted (flameblade angel) and eventually gets killed (clip wings)

    • @LadyTsunade777
      @LadyTsunade777 Před rokem +7

      That's Isobel the angel, by Howard Lyon. She's actually on 4 cards: Angel of Flight Alabaster, Angel of Finality, Flameblade Angel (promo), and Clip Wings.
      You can find his story notes for her by searching that in google and going to his website.

  • @PlanetEarth1369
    @PlanetEarth1369 Před rokem +16

    I wish you talked a bit more about Liesa at the Innistrad section. Not mentioning how Avacyn killed Liesa and how Liesa eventually reformed feels especially egregious.

  • @avnir8966
    @avnir8966 Před rokem +15

    we need a goblin backstory!

  • @cax1175
    @cax1175 Před rokem +18

    Shoutout to Homelands, the set that Ulgrotha takes place on. I just finished the complete set. It isn't the worst set in Magic history in my opinion.

    • @huntergrant6520
      @huntergrant6520 Před rokem +1

      I read the comics from homelands. My personal favorite set.

    • @lamronjr8785
      @lamronjr8785 Před rokem

      So what is the worst for you?

    • @milessumida6770
      @milessumida6770 Před rokem

      @@lamronjr8785mercadian masks?

    • @cax1175
      @cax1175 Před rokem

      ​​​​​@@lamronjr8785Prophecy. Nizzahon has done videos on both sets and Homelands has more cards with competitive success than prophecy. Homelands has a couple of cards that still see play today like Merchant Scroll. Merchant Scroll is actually restricted in Vintage, you can't say that about Prophecy. It has Rhystic Study but that is only good in edh.

    • @cax1175
      @cax1175 Před rokem

      ​​@@huntergrant6520 actually also got that for my Homelands collection too. It was still sealed and it came with a copy of Apocalypse Chime. Chandler is my name, so I had to make an edh deck with him as commander.

  • @thedancingpikachu
    @thedancingpikachu Před rokem +10

    Surprised you didn't go over how the ones on Amonkhet ended up weirding the gate watch out for not being all female.

    • @LadyTsunade777
      @LadyTsunade777 Před rokem +4

      I mean, the Amonkhet angels being male was part of Old-Walker Bolas twisting the plane to his own needs and wants.

    • @thedancingpikachu
      @thedancingpikachu Před rokem +1

      @@LadyTsunade777 true, but it still was a way to show how ingrained certain aspects were to the nature of angels in mtg. They had to be twisted by an old-walker to be male.

  • @marcoottina654
    @marcoottina654 Před rokem +6

    I LOVE lore-centered stuff ^_^ I wish for my first tribal deck, Slivers but I was struck by the Angels recently, even on a philosophical level! Thank you for .. starting? ... this series :D
    what about top N best representation of the lore behind some particular topic? like Angels, Legends, constructs ...
    talking about machines, top 10 lore about (sentient) artifacts?

  • @NoOneUsesThis
    @NoOneUsesThis Před rokem +2

    This was great. I'll take niece lore over top 10 videos any day.

  • @GarrettBurchell
    @GarrettBurchell Před 11 měsíci

    Well done.
    I have always loved the story of Serra.
    Such a beautifully written character.
    Keep up these kind of videos.

  • @Mannehrlich
    @Mannehrlich Před rokem

    This Video was definitely a touch above the cut. Very interesting topic and as usual very nicely narrated.

  • @guidocampostrini
    @guidocampostrini Před rokem

    really good video, I like your voice and the story of angels is something incredible

  • @CustodialDaniel
    @CustodialDaniel Před rokem +2

    This was great! Love how you covered the lore here, would much rather watch your takes on MTG than some other channels

    • @MrDeeluv1996
      @MrDeeluv1996 Před rokem +1

      MTG lore content creators are generally extremely boring neck beards, who just sound a little to excited with middle earth tunes playing in the background

  • @lamronjr8785
    @lamronjr8785 Před rokem +2

    Do an urza story! It seems a really good thing to call people back to for viewer engagement..and important lore

  • @C.A.A93
    @C.A.A93 Před rokem +4

    I love this story type content

  • @alecxisgarcia1990
    @alecxisgarcia1990 Před rokem +2

    idk if there's enough lore for a 20 minutes video but I'd love one on Alesha! If not the Umezawa clan.

  • @victhefoxygamer_6180
    @victhefoxygamer_6180 Před rokem

    I do love me The Unknown Side of. Always. Love seeing these on the YuGiTube Channel can't wait for more here too!

  • @MaestroAlvis
    @MaestroAlvis Před rokem

    Your provably my favorite yugi-tuber and its awesome that your also on mtg
    idea for a video: top 10 worst storm cards.

  • @ReederMG
    @ReederMG Před rokem

    Love these types of videos

  • @7Alberto7
    @7Alberto7 Před rokem

    Amazing! Please more😍😍😍😍😍

  • @sholja
    @sholja Před rokem +1

    love this type of video

  • @Davidanchie
    @Davidanchie Před rokem

    Great video

  • @franzgriffle6063
    @franzgriffle6063 Před rokem

    Awesome!

  • @JaimeAGB-pt4xl
    @JaimeAGB-pt4xl Před rokem

    Aaaaaaannnddddd this is why MTG has the superior lore to any other original TCG ...
    Great video 👍🏻

  • @josephjohnson8433
    @josephjohnson8433 Před rokem +1

    Hell yes. I love this Loredump more please

  • @MikhailHudon_ZerithFarron

    the singular beautiful creature type that got me into the game. Ironically in the M15 and Tarkier block which was full of dragons. I still use my old foil Emancipation, Platinum and Aegis Angels I got back then for my very first commander deck featuring Ephara.

  • @jyomi7506
    @jyomi7506 Před rokem +1

    I don't have a source for this, but I remember hearing that the reason Amonkhet's angels were male, is that they were part of the corruption of the plane by Nicol Bolas, another hint that something wasn't right about the plane when he was in charge.

  • @fiacramccluskey2569
    @fiacramccluskey2569 Před rokem +2

    More lore videos!!

  • @Mad.Edd.702
    @Mad.Edd.702 Před rokem

    Good video

  • @svenornitier
    @svenornitier Před rokem

  • @mikenahmias7102
    @mikenahmias7102 Před rokem +1

    How about Power 9 lore? Lotus fields, crafting of the Moxes, whose ancestors are being recalled, Tolarian's connection to time walking. Definitely more "iconic creature type" lore, too.

  • @lenardEkko
    @lenardEkko Před rokem

    i like these lore videos

  • @javierpatag3609
    @javierpatag3609 Před rokem

    Well done on the video.
    Wish you covered Kaldheim’s angels (valkyries). If all angels in the MtG universe trace their origin in Serra, how did Kaldheim’s come about?

  • @X20Adam
    @X20Adam Před rokem

    I'd love an Urza Video

  • @CErra310
    @CErra310 Před rokem

    I once spent $100 on a booster box of Ikoria for a Serra The Benevolent avatar in MTG:Arena even though the closest "local" gamestore for actual paper play would be 4 towns over because I love her design so much

  • @luizrafael7939
    @luizrafael7939 Před 5 měsíci

    I was hoping you would talk about akroma and page. I know, old stuff but interesting either way 😮

  • @thomaslepage5941
    @thomaslepage5941 Před 6 měsíci

    I always wondered why demons, hydras, and sphinxes never got an in universe origin within magic. I hope they expand upon this someday. Especially demons. I love black in magic and I'd love to know where they came from.

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501 Před rokem +1

    Angels Elsewhere - what about Kaldheim? Are Starnheim's valkyries also manifestations / lingering descendants of Serra's works too? Normally I'd still just run with that, but the presence of Youthful Valkyrie throws that off to me.

    • @LadyTsunade777
      @LadyTsunade777 Před rokem +1

      Most planes have their own different ways of creating Angels: Alara has them made from the souls of heroic dead, Innistrad has planar pools of white and black mana that the angels and demons there return to when killed and can reform eventually, Ravnica are all created directly by Razia or Feather, Zendikar coalesce from pure concentrations of white mana, Dominaria form from the gathered prayers of mortals, and on Kaldheim the valkyries have existed since the plane's birth.
      Capenna may be different, as until we have more details it's unclear. Theoretically angels are a typical race on Capenna, meaning they procreate and such. Seeing as they appear as mortal humans when immature, and that it was canonically confirmed that Capenna has both female and male angels.

  • @cooldes4593
    @cooldes4593 Před rokem +1

    She is the UR-Angel

  • @YoshiKing12EK
    @YoshiKing12EK Před rokem

    Id love to hear the lore abour Myr(s) tbh I dont even know how deep that goes if at all but I love those little artifacte constructs

    • @Sillimant_
      @Sillimant_ Před rokem +1

      Myrs were created by memnarch, who was created alongside mirrodin by karn*, so it's quite an in-depth and convoluted story
      *at least, that's my understanding of the connections

    • @YoshiKing12EK
      @YoshiKing12EK Před rokem

      @@Sillimant_ Oooh thanks for the tidbit heck now I defiantly want to have a full breakdown on this channel of my favorite little artifacts.

  • @nerdvananorth2905
    @nerdvananorth2905 Před rokem +1

    I need to get this card! Wish I was flush enough to pay 55 smackeroos for a foil XD

  • @redemptionor0194
    @redemptionor0194 Před rokem

    do the wandering emperor!

  • @tmacker14
    @tmacker14 Před rokem +1

    Please do dragons and the Ur-dragon next

  • @dmann1982
    @dmann1982 Před rokem

    In Sera's story, is an Angle important?

  • @Sillimant_
    @Sillimant_ Před rokem

    I wonder if serra was directly responsible for Elspeth. As far as I'm aware, anyway, this is the only time a character has been reborn as an angel, creating an angel from the souls of the dead is a hallmark of Serra's work
    I think after letting herself die, part of her spark refused to die and wandered the blind eternities until Elspeth, and by proxy the entire multiverse, needed help the most. It would be fitting that even in death she continues to help those in need

  • @ASoulphoenix
    @ASoulphoenix Před rokem +2

    No mention of Akroma and the Orzhov's Angel of despair, shame

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Před rokem

      Pegasus succeeding too well and megapastors creating s3x s1aves, yes.

    • @LadyTsunade777
      @LadyTsunade777 Před rokem +1

      He mentioned the Orzhov angels in the Ravnica segment. All Ravnican angels are direct creations of either Razia or Feather, and any that are no longer in the Boros are ones that left to either other guilds or the gateless of their own will.

  • @justfrankjustdank2538
    @justfrankjustdank2538 Před 3 měsíci +1

    then weeping angel got made grom doctor who :p

  • @vosh8337
    @vosh8337 Před rokem +1

    Do sliver lore and preator lore

  • @junethemoon5939
    @junethemoon5939 Před rokem +1

    planeswalk lore like what is the mending?

  • @TheSmartestManonEarth

    All angels should have flash.
    Think about it.
    Makes sense fof couple reasons

  • @Arnet_Bot
    @Arnet_Bot Před rokem +1

    MTG Lore videos please

  • @calicogaming6063
    @calicogaming6063 Před rokem

    I though that Sorin destroyed Avacyn as payment for Olivia Valdaren's forces helping him in a conflict he'd lose otherwise?

  • @capureeya3741
    @capureeya3741 Před rokem

    Guys how can you read and learn mtg lore?

  • @semicooperative7188
    @semicooperative7188 Před rokem +1

    No Akroma? This is a travesty

    • @huntergrant6520
      @huntergrant6520 Před rokem

      She's onslaught. Ixidor created her in the image of his killed girlfriend. You in my opin could argue she isn't real. But maybe there is more lore about it I'm unaware of. Been 20 years since I read those books.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Před rokem

      ​@@huntergrant6520Still waiting for her to be printed as an Illusion.

  • @RedOphiuchus
    @RedOphiuchus Před rokem +7

    Honestly, Serra's death never sat right with me. Letting herself die basically off screen like that after being such a prominent, larger than life character for so long is really disappointing. The weird thing is she did appear alive on a restored version of her realm in the Scourge novel, a novel that takes place years after the phyrexian invasion of dominaria and well after her supposed death. But unfortunately, that novel is extremely weird and while a lot of major events from it continued to influence future stories to some degree many minor events, such as Karona visiting Serra's realm, seem to be treated as non-canon. Especially since the justification for how her realm was restored is contradicted by the modern weatherlight crew and their story.

    • @kdash2657
      @kdash2657 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I'm fine with a larger-than-life figure passing on from a tragic and humble event. Not every figure has to die in a blaze of glory. While the brief explanation here leaves a lot to be desired, Serra passing on from the grief of losing her "heaven" and the love of her life by letting herself be slain says a lot more about the person she was and the true power she wielded.

    • @RedOphiuchus
      @RedOphiuchus Před 8 měsíci +1

      @kdash2657 for me it just doesn't work. Living for thousands of years, creating an entire world and an entire species that would be spread around the multiverse, being an immortal. These things, to me, make "love of my life"-related suicides feel silly.
      A lot of planeswalker deaths around that time were disappointing, and imo unnecessary, honestly Urza couldn't die sooner for how much of a hand he played in many of them, but Serra doubly so because it feels like an off screen death we hear mention of as an aside to everything going on. One of the most powerful planeswalkers we've ever seen deserves better imo

  • @SamTheDragonLover
    @SamTheDragonLover Před rokem

    Do dragons please😊

  • @Bearvas
    @Bearvas Před rokem

    Not every Angel was created by Serra though. Akroma who later turned Karona was originally created by Ixidor. A powerful Illusionist who lost the love of his life in the phyrexian arenas. He then became mad with grief and tried to recreate his lover with his magic, at the cost of his right arm, he created an Angel.
    Akroma Angel of Wrath to be precise. The good folk of Amonkhet also found out how to create angels. First male angels to be precise.
    So who knows. Maybe now they can reproduce biologically? But not every angel decends from Serra.

  • @ReyosBlackwood
    @ReyosBlackwood Před rokem +2

    3:00 prospectors
    Seriously it's like you don't pay attention at all

  • @chapmanandchapmanproductio974

    DANNY DIVIROnnn whaaaa

  • @as95ms98
    @as95ms98 Před rokem

    Ah yes, Serra's Realm being used as a battery. Another point in the very long list of reasons of why Urza is the worst.

  • @brewskimckilgore6796
    @brewskimckilgore6796 Před rokem

    please unpack urza and please include your hot take on him lmao

  • @chapmanandchapmanproductio974

    LOGSSSSSSSS

  • @arc-sd8sk
    @arc-sd8sk Před rokem

    f*rst

  • @timsuu8991
    @timsuu8991 Před rokem +1

    Nice lore video.
    Funny how Magic's depiction of this all female race all either end up being corrupted or are just literal artificial things made by men or otherwise. Lol

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Před rokem +4

      Considering the bulk of them stem from Serra, a woman, to one degree or another, I'm going to say that analysis is a bit off.

    • @darthparallax5207
      @darthparallax5207 Před rokem

      During the time period they were run by a woman they were so specifically just objects they explicitly could not have sparks.
      I suspect Asha is a Walker but that will be a recon.
      The only plane that acknowledged blue and green angels they were made by a male vampire.
      So.
      Lol. Christian angels work better than Odin angels if you want something more feminist friendly. Lmao.

    • @darthparallax5207
      @darthparallax5207 Před rokem

      Retcon

    • @Sillimant_
      @Sillimant_ Před rokem

      >funny that angels made by a woman are all women
      Go outside. Touch grass.

  • @MrZakuRetro
    @MrZakuRetro Před rokem

    Great video really i love all the quality you put in all of your creations, but man 17:20 the Elspeth arc is a piece of dog shiet, wizard put near 0 effort a Wattpad fan can write better lore for free than MOM story line rush, short, cheap and destroying his onw cannon created be better writer. Wizard is being so lazy with his lore than now i prefer no reading anything new.

  • @ErinSmith-iv6rt
    @ErinSmith-iv6rt Před rokem

    Will you do Hydra's.