USA AND MEXICO GUITARS IN THE SAME PRICE RANGE?
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2022
- Baxter and Jonathan discuss the Mexican and American made Fender Guitars living in the same price range. Fender prices are going up and so are the guitars from the Mexican factory. One thing is for sure, they are undeniably good!
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I think we took an industry built on DIY mods and rock and roll and turned it into the next golf.
Moral of the story is to not sell your gear because it'll cost too much to replace them later.
Just bought a Fender Player Strat, which is 90% an American Standard. Great guitar, no Mt. Everest frets like the Pro 2 or Ultra. Should have done it last year. I'm betting they'll be over $1,000 in less than a year.
100%. I bet I sold off 8000$ worth of gear last year and previous. Regret everyday. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Leant that lesson so many times :(
@@Livelaughlimpbizkit So, basically you haven't learned squat...
@@mikecorey8370 Damn right, at least out of the U.S.
These companies are definitely about to take a hit. You can’t eat a guitar after all, so it’s not going to be on many people’s minds to purchase especially when they’re paying boutique prices for factory line work
Absolutely correct.
I agree
For some of the shoddiest QC in decades because the Pandemic excuses all stupidity.
i agree greed pure&simple....
I remember in the not so distant past an entry-level Fender made in Mexico was $499.
I can say that price increases have certainly curbed my buying. QC has to be pretty much perfect over $3k. It has to have the exact features I want and none that I don't for that much money. Those inflated prices come with inflated expectations. I'm drastically less likely to go outside my comfort zone and try new things when I'm laying down that much money.
It sure wasn't with Glenn frickers mustaine v which was just short of 3k
Honestly, I've invested some money in some good tools and just buying guitar kits and learning to make the guitar I want. You can still get the best hardware and parts, and keep everything under $1000.
I’d suggest placing a custom order from Frank Frugoni with that money. Amazing Argentinian Luthier.
I wonder if history will look back at us, at some of these bizarrely large guitar collections, and ponder the decadence we experienced
I’m old so everything feels soooo expensive now. Maybe it’s because my paycheck is so 2016, trying to apply it to 2022 prices
Just learned something cool this weekend. Was time for a new guitar and went to local GC (please no haters, it’s the only place within a decent driving distance that doesn’t require an appointment). We found something that checked all the boxes and felt great. An older guy was ready to ring me up and asked if I qualified for a veteran discount. “Wha?!” Was my reaction and “Hell yes” was my reply. I then turned around and got the higher level version of the same guitar for the same price. I’m still grinning from ear to ear. So people, if you are a vet, ask for those discounts.
I love guitar center. People love to hate. Make friends with the people that work there. They will order you an unopened straight from the warehouse guitar. Have it ordered in store. Play it there when it arrives. Return it if it doesn't fit your needs. Perfect
Thank you for your service! And congratulations on the new guitar!
F’n awesome! You deserved it bro.
I live listening to upper middle class to wealthy people saying they don’t mind paying X amount for this or that, or that they wouldn’t mind paying higher taxes. Well good for you! Those of us who can no longer afford to buy a home and with rents skyrocketing DO MIND! I’m not poor either, I make 60k a year and live within my means yet I’m still going broke.
why are you angry with your fellow citizens?
many are in your position.
my thoughts would be maybe we stop voting for real estate moguls... we stop voting for rich people thinking they must be smarter... yeah. smarter at screwing us.
but everyone bags on the 60K bartender from new york that might actually understand your position.
nah... vote for the billionaire. who owns all those houses we can't buy? hedge funds now.
not middle class people.
i would be happy to pay more taxes. if it got everyone educated, healthy, and HOUSED. We're on the same team man.
even if you made 120K things don't magically get simple BTW... you'll still be going broke. just in an apartment, or condo if you're lucky playing an American guitar maybe.
Give me the real estate mogul my life was good then and you can keep your bartender
@@wammons007 that's partisanship right there and it's a trap. if you know anything the mogul "supercharges" the economy, pees on you, tells you it's rain... they crash it in the other party's lap... and the cycle repeats. read anti causal system.
partisanship is for suckahs.
and soviets.
i love how greedy everyone is all of a sudden. and me... I'm still doing just fine too... but i worry about my fellow citizens.
I'm not trying to "own" my fellow country people. i stand with ALL of them. except the mogul. he's a traitor to the nation. irrespective.of your wallet.
BTW the moguls economic policy in the long run led to more outsourcing and the price changes in the import market that you are seeing. but fox business or "news" would NEVER mention that... those Carrier jobs.... going. going. gone...
wait until the housing market crashes because the mogul took off the safety nets from the last time.... you'll blame the bartender cuz you're on a team.
Last good Republican was Eisenhower. he was amazing.
good dem... uh. FDR i guess.
partisanship is for suckahs.
the bankers are running the show.
why does the dow go up and down, up and down, up and down... the bankers clean house on both sides and of they don't.... moguls and corporatists bail them out.
d and r is a fiction. it's corporate interests v citizens for real.
we aren't enemies man.
@@wammons007 I’d be willing to bet, if anyone was in touch with the regular folks.. someone who was able to listen.. there’s no better person than a bartender.
In sorry, but if you were born in this county and you complain that you "can't " do or afford to do something, you're just a lazy individual. My family has worked hard since arriving in this county and we've all managed to buy, new expensive guitars, new cars, houses. NONE OF US WERE BORN IN THIS COUNTRY EITHER. we pay taxes, we legally became citizens. I scoff at American born people that complain. Again, lazy individuals
Im just happy i put my collection together before all this happened. Got all my prized pieces when they sub 3k, seems my collection doubled in value from 2019, its wild
I've got an American Standard Strat '13, got it 2nd hand for 830USD in mint condition since the previous owner didn't really use it and never brought it outside his house. Holding on to this one!
2010-2015ish are always good! I have yet to run into a bad one from those years. Mine is 2014 and it's absolutely perfect
Uh....all fenders are built the same. They take a monkey to screw some bolts on and voila you have a squier....I mean American ultra lol....only difference will be if you get a artist signature or a rarities with a flamed or quilted maple top. Even then pickups and neck will feel and sound the same as a Mexican made fender. Im speaking from owners experience. I have everything from squier to American ultras. Besides that I have gibsons, ibanez prestiges, and Taylor's.
@@BParker55 That's awesome!
@@e7thstar That's cool, I do not have as many guitars as you do. At this point, I only have the strat I mentioned, and a Charvel DK24 2PT.
I actually was fortunate enough to get an American Original 60s Strat, from these guys actually, before they basically disappeared. It's such a good guitar, I'll never let it go!
Gibson is the only USA company with a product under $1,000. Granted $999 is close, but no one else is that low.
This episode makes me VERY happy that I drove down to see y'all and left with a beautimous Martin (thank you, El Senor Jonathan) when I did.
At $3k I'd be looking at companies like Suhr that have much better QC. That or used.
Fine Baxter, you talked me into keeping the 83 Elite.
Just when the guitar is "back", corporate greed is gonna kill it.
I’m debating buying an old MIM Standard or Classic series. The joy for me is in modifying-
I still reckon prices will come down or at least stabilise once the consumer crunch hits the guitar industry. Already started to see heat coming out of the used market and will expect similar reaction in the new market.
I lucked into a beautiful 1986 Japanese Strat for $800. I love the Fender Japan stuff
Hey, same here! I bought a MIJ Traditional 60s Strat recently for around that price. Great guitar!
I am just happy I got my Taylor 2 weeks ago. You are right. Prices will keep going up.
I bought a 2008 american vintage reissue, black, 62 Custom Telecaster and I am beyond happy I bought it when i did.
You have to use that intro from now on. Every video. This is the way.
I assume it means that Jonathan finally got on Tik Tok. (Baxter already used TT.)
have you guys seen the Fender Made in Japan Heritage series? similar to the American Original stuff but unique
PRS S2 line is USA made and they’re still just under 2k (probably not for long though)
Sad to say - I've already decided I simply can't afford to buy any new guitars. With prices in general already soaring and not a hope in hell of a pay rise to come even close to matching inflation, it's time to truly appreciate just what I've already got! And if I'm honest - I really don't need any new gear. There's loads of stuff I'd like - but "need"...?
I've been saying for years that we really have been in a golden age of quality vs price which has allowed unprecedented scope to experiment with various types of guitars - and I've treated myself to electric 12-strings and baritones almost as impulse buys. But that's a thing of the past. I can also see a vicious circle of reduced spending power hitting many popular CZcams channels by way of fall-out. Are manufacturers likely to keep sending out sample guitars to so many channels for reviews if nobody can afford to buy them?
A perfect storm is coming to the guitar business. Recession + decreasing new guitar sales + increasing used guitar sales = many guitar manufacturers going tits up.
I'd say, the ones that rely on volume sales will be hurt for sure.
Not really. The big companies will be fine. You just have to understand how the industry works. The big one rely on the sales of their import brands to allow them to make their flagship guitars. Squier, Epiphone, etc. make the companies much more in profits than their own guitars do. It would be hard to be a huge company only having USA made guitars. Gibson and Fender sell a lot of their guitars but even more so those guitars that they build lead to sales of Epiphones and Squiers.
Smaller builders may feel the recession much harder and it might put a few out of business but the big companies aren't going anywhere, they've been through worse. Gibson and Fender have both been in financial trouble in the past but that really had nothing to do with guitars, it was about their ownership investing in other things that were losing money.
In addition, a lot of people got into buying guitars in 2020, with time on their hands and money to spend. It’s created a bubble like what was previously seen in comic books, baseball cards, and vinyl records. Those bubbles have to pop eventually.
I would love to know the Squier sales as of late. They've been doing some very cool stuff. With MIM prices basically at $1k now, I don't see a reason to buy new.
Stockpile accomplished, nothing left to buy, finished my collection before the second year kicked in, doing my best to sell nothing but I may trade some…
That's why I'm hanging on to my American Pro (1) Strat and Tele, and my "lowly " Gibson Les Paul studio, along with my Baja Tele.
It's hard to complain, all guitars at every price range are so good anymore. Anybody can learn to do setups because of CZcams, so anybody can have a guitar that they will love.
I get what you're saying but no, as a guitar tech with a physics degree some people cannot learn to do setups from youtube and will take a perfectly playable guitar and totally funk it up.
@@t3hgir well some people can’t assemble a coffee table and as a tech I’m guessing you meet a lot of those people, but they don’t represent the majority lol
@@martianmurray Uh, yes they do.
It’s funny you mentioned lace sensor pickups because I have an late 80 ‘s custom shop strat with lace sensors. I had the opportunity to swap them out recently for custom shop tomatillos and my local guitar shop where I take my stuff to be worked on refused and told me I was out of my mind. “ Leave it alone idiot” were the exact words I think he used so no tomatillo pickups for me. Unless…..hmmmm, classic vibe and rework the guts. A little neck work and dang I think we have a plan.
Probably true what they say about USA and Mexico Fenders, but the best buy in Fenderland is the Squier Classic Vibe series. You can still buy a CV these days for under $400 if you shop the right place at the right time. Of course, if your headstock absolutely must carry a Fender label then a CV is a no-go.
Do you know headstock name does matter to me a bit but the thing that matters to me the most especially with everything over the last few years is it it’s built from an American so that we can support the people in the United States they have jobs they feed their family that’s what matters to me the most but you know it doesn’t make it easier but everybody rock as long as you’re rocking and liking it that’s all it matters
Maybe you guys should consider selling partscaster parts. Seems like the new middle ground between squier and USA fender.
I own both, AO 60s Tele and Strat. What do you think will replace the AO?
I’m sad I discovered the Fender American Vintage series too late. I found one left over but it’s now so hard to find others.
I live in Seattle where its possibly in a bubble but wages here have gone way up , fast food restaurants are paying north of 20$ an hour for a person that needs a Q card to ask for your order, it is tough to pay inflated prices on everything when you are retired ... but I have noticed in the used market prices haven't gone up quite as fast and there are a lot more for sale ......moral of the story go to work at McDonalds buy a used guitar and trade it in at inflated prices then the 3k won't hurt so bad
Hey guys serious question, the last time I looked on the Fender website just a couple months ago (before discontinuation) the specs for the American Original series read the body was Poly finished and only the neck was Nitro. Is this correct? I had both a vintage reissue Tele and a vintage reissue Strat that were completely Nitro finish.
I have a 60s AO Strat in Olympic White……Love it!
I snagged a 50s AO Strat in Sunburst myself.......simply amazing guitar!
Lol this was such a wavy upload. love it
I'm just going to partscaster any Fender style guitar I want from now on. The aftermarket is too strong to ignore while once prices skyrocket. I'm glad I have pretty much everything I "need" already.
Bought three new Gibsons in the past 9 months. The new Gibsons are amazing. Got my 339 right before the $500 price hike. Sweet. My local shop is always running sales. Bought each of them at 10% off. Glad I bought before prices start creeping up.
You still 10 years late, they have increased over the last 10 years. Bought my 2003 ES335 for $1200... I dont earn 5x more than i did then. Seeing they going for around $4k now I think. On top of that my local currency has also doubled against he USD. So its like a $8000 guitar to me. You way late my friend.
great video bax😀
Have stopped buying guitars since the pandemic. I'm glad I'm able to keep my gear and not having to let them go. Acquiring new toys is a remote possibility in my life these days.
Taylor American dream or Taylor 214 koa deluxe? I still prefer x-bracing.
Interesting topic, and it spawned this question: Sell now or Hold: 1992 Fender Jazz Bass, MIM????
Aloha! Boy am I glad that I bought my CS Strat and Tele when I did.
Grab an American standard strat from 2010-2015 at a shop somewhere and call it a day. 🤘🏻
Fender American Original and the Fender Mod Shop are both about the same price, depending on the options. Is Fender Mod Shop as close to as American Original?
Here is a question a little off topic well maybe same church different pugh if you will....I have been debating on buying a Rickenbacker 330 thinline which I believe are 1899. Are these going to go way up also? The 360 is about 600 more I believe. I also want something with humbuckers and am debating, the epi 59 les paul, Sire L7 or a EVH wolfgang Special...I know they are all different but those are what I am interested and I hope those price points don't jump.
there is a guitar I want to special order but the wait is 9 months. I might do it to lock in the price but I am on the fence about buying anything. I really don't need another guitar. There used to be a commercial many years ago and the jingle was" when the prices go up up up and the value goes down down down. I see that happening.
Starship Troopers? I would like to know more! ;)
Since you've (kinda) brought it up, I'd like to hear you discuss the Classic Vibe. Specifically (for me) neck ummm.... stability. I have a Chinese CV strat with a flamed, quarter-sawn neck. It's awesome, but the neck is somewhat flexible (though it returns perfectly). My American Standard has a flat-sawn neck that is of course, rock-solid. Only guitar I've doubled up on; the CV has the "vintagy vibe", whereas the Standard is a versatile, but "modern strat".
Thing is, while the US guitar is objectively better (perfect stable rock machine), the CV (admittedly with upgraded pots, wiring and trem-block) is more, err, quirky? The neck, while potentially more problematic, is able to be more 'expressive'. While the Standard is by no means gathering dust, is isn't picked up as often as the CV (although to be fair, neither is used as much as my Tele or Casino!) Thoughts?
I hate how Fender goes out of their way to avoid saying which guitars on their website are made in Mexico. If they are truly of comparable quality, be proud and stand behind it!
The word player indicates mim ...and they list the model numbers last I knew🤘
my dude it literally says right under the spec sheet
Everything made in the USA actually has the word American in its name.
What goes up must come down?
What is interesting is the pricing of Fender Japan MIJ guitars. Fender just released two new series of guitars in Japan and they retail for between $900 and $1000USD. In fact the price range of the current MIJ Fenders (non-signatures) run $900-$1200. The pricing is very stable and have not gone up very much the last few years versus the MIA and MIM Fenders.
Damn, that's a very good point!
...and personally I like the quality of the mij stuff more
Japan's had a policy of gov't intervention to keep inflation down, which is at the root of their stable prices. However, that's about to change as it has caused the Japanese Yen to freefall compared to foreign currencies thus increasing the cost of all the raw materials the island nation has to import. Right now, anti- inflation measures combined with a favorable exchange rate has created the perfect storm for U.S. buyers. That will likely change in a matter of months.
Just be aware that per their contract with Fender USA, new MIJ Fenders must pass thru at least one owner before they can be exported, so technically, any Fender you buy from Japan will be a used guitar, however lightly used that may be. Also, like their USA counterparts, there are a few tiers when it comes to cost. 50s & 60s reissues as well as some JV modified models can be quite pricey. I took delivery of a 2017 60s reissue blue flower strat 2 weeks ago & the cost including tax & shipping was $1830.00. The guitar was immaculate & still had the plastic peel on the backplate, but I'm still still living on pb&j with coffee this month.
That intro was hilarious 😂
Those 90s Fender guitars/basses are getting old enough to become a pricey possession🤙🏽 competition is getting real.
I can only watch till you get way off topic.... But I guess it's time to cool the GAS. I have 3 Strats, and 2 "factory" Teles in addition to the Teles I've built myself. I sold 2 of my LesPaul's and have 4 left, and I honestly don't know exactly what else is in the store room! I did move about a dozen cases today looking for my '63 P-bass, as I reluctantly agreed to do a bass gig and it's time for it's bi-yearly string change 8). I have a "core group" of guitars, then about 2 dozen I enjoy trading around. If prices go crazy I guess that just means no new ones. It may be interesting in the used market for awhile though. 8) --gary
I paid 3k flat for my roasted Tomatillo CS Strat right at the beginning of the pandemic. Was a great deal and a lovely lovely guitar.
What happens when we cycle back too no live music like disco era?
I just saw a whole Rack Of Gibson Les Paul Specials For $900 each! I just bought A Limited Edition Player Strat Black with an Ebony board on flash sale at Guitar Center for $799 still in the box! Fret work was horrible though! Had to take it to a Fender auth. service Center! Gonna take 3 weeks to get it back! Frets we’re All Scratchy feeling(unpolished). I’m out of Control with Geetars! I did lock in my price on a Novo should get it in Dec. I do Remember 1999 American Standard Strat was $750!
After 8 years of not buying any guitars (after buying a lot), last year I bought a Lefty Gibson Explorer for £1350 and a Lefty Gretsch Jet for £1399. At the time I felt really guilty, but now seeing both listed at £1700 and £2400, I’m happy I did. Of course there is stuff I still desire like a Jazzmaster and a Gretsch Chet Atkins, but I’m happy with my collection enough to say if there’s a deal: great, if not I don’t need it.
...Greetings from Mexico...
1st thing. I just did a shot of The Rocks tequila, it's decent. 2nd, In 2019 I purchased a 2001 gibson les paul standard ebony & a 1996 (made on my birthday) gibson les paul standard ebony for a combined $3750. That is not happening today. Love you GUYS! Gimme my SILVER SKY! You know I'm gonna win it.
The days to buy high quality guitars at affordable prices were 3--5 years. If you're looking for a deal now, look elsewhere like used but they don't make them like they used to.
I’ve been buying about 1-2 guitars a year from 2016-2020ish then came to a complete stop when these prices went up. I’ll stick with what I have or buy used now.
If you are in a bar band can you make up the cost of a 3k guitar ? And on the average how many gigs would it take . I know that's a hard question to answer because i guess it all depends on your location . Just curious
i love Fender but when I look at a production Fenders I can't see where the $ is. Everything is cookie cutter, bolt together the parts and your done. At least I can see where the $ went on a Gibson. Fender feels greedy to me.
a new USA fender is 1600, gibsons flagship is 2400
Just got a Custom Shop Strat secondhand at a discount (#81 on the Winter ‘21 Event video) , holding onto it, its going nowhere!!! Prices are getting crazy indeed!
Also had an American Original 60’s Strat… nice guitar, but 9 lbs was a dealbreaker… quick return to the big box online store, lesson learned, no weight was listed.
My 2018 Player Tele was £549 sterling three years ago. When I get another Fender style guitar i'll get a G&L
Been looking at G&L myself for me next one 🤔
G&L has gone up recently too.
I can afford any guitar I want, however after having over 15, I've become enamored with my ESP/LTD EC256 - Cherryburst with soon to mod the pickups to 59's...
The Fender AP2 Strat I sold a few days ago was highly inspirational, however I like the 24.75" scale length ALOT more on the ESP/LTD & refuse to l👀k at any Gibson guitars! Run for the hills away from Gibson! 😂
Pretty sure we can agree that price doesn't matter after 600-1000.00!😁
I worked at a guitar shop around 2010 and my favorite esp/ltd bar none was the ec256. Those a were a screaming deal! And you should have seen how little the cost price on those were.
@@wadeguidry6675 Yes! 😍 In love with mine 😁 and the quality is high; the bang for buck factor makes this a hot guitar! 😁
@@fordhammie the Japanese ESP Eclipses we sold completely smoked any Gibson Les Paul. They were around 1500 retail. We also had a Japanese Custom Shop EC for 5k. It was mind-blowingly awesome, but I would never spend that much. The ec256 dealer cost was right around $125 and we sold them at $290. We couldn't believe they could produce such a great set neck guitar for so little.
Are the American originals better than the American pro II ? Thanks for another great video!
They cost more, whether is it’s better that’s up to you.
Thanks Marty !
I agree, the prices are going up and up and seems like there’s no stopping though, at some point it will though, I think it will happen everything collapses. I felt lucky to score a black Gibson Les Paul Special the other day and 6 mos ago an Orville by Gibson Black Beauty at a little inflated but, manageable prices. If I decide on on a Tele I think I’ll go with a Japanese one for cost and I believe decent quality. Sadly, next I need an amp as I don’t have one but, that’s another money pit story for sure. Lolz
Howabout the Fender American standard? The one that for a few years had the custom shop fat 50s...stock.
Great deal.
and you can find them used for 1k or less
They do have the D16 and the 000-18 Martin under 2500 all solid made in USA. Which do you like better for that 2000-2500 price range. I have the HD28 special just amazing. Thanks
I’d go 000-18 for sure! You already have a dreadnought, and don’t need more than one unless you’re solely a bluegrass guy.
@@Ironworthstriking thanks Tyler. I appreciate that. I’m pretty much being sold on that 000-18. I wonder what the wait time is for one with a pickup? Appreciate your advice. :)
@@Ironworthstriking just curious. How much stock do you put into the forward shifted x braced guitar? I ask because the 000-18 doesn’t have it. It’s standard x while the D16e does have it. I haven’t compared them enough to know if the forward shifted makes a huge difference.
@@R.L.Humpert personally I’d put my own pickup in. Not a fan of Martin’s pickups. You’d be better off with a nice LR Baggs system.
@@Ironworthstriking so the Baggs is better than the fishman??i didn’t realize that I always liked Fishman. I guess cutting into the wood to put the pickup kinda freaks me out. But I guess that’s what they do when they make them that way. Thanks again.
So what you're saying is, I should order a Master Built now and lock in my price, then in 7-8 years from now when it's done, I should be able to sell my American Original for enough to pay it off... Then I can flip the master build for current price at that time, and retire in luxury? (Seems more secure than my 401k. I put enough in it every year to buy a master build, yet somehow it's value has gone down by even more.)
Best CZcams Intro Ever!!!!!
Should I hold onto it or sell? I'm trying to sell my new American Pro 2 tele and haven't had any takers at $1400. I have an offer for $1100. Think that's too low?
No thats about right, 1400 is only 100 bucks off new from the website with the discount code, your not going to sell used for that
If I’m gonna drop $3000 on a guitar it’s not gonna be a fender I’m probably gonna go towards PRS or Boutique builder where you can really get exactly what you want or I’m just gonna put a down payment on a custom shop at that point and have it built and takes a year or so
I’m not paying 3k for any guitar, forget that and if I did, I’d expect absolute perfection and the guitar to be maxed out, flawless fret work, set up and gigable out of the box.
I hope things stabilize and don't go up much more.
Guitars r overpriced for literally no reason it doesn't cost nowhere near as much to make as what they're selling them for... Its ridiculous.
Which Fender lines are MIA and which are MIM? The UK prices for non-custom shop is around £1800ish for a strat in the lines with "American" in the name.
The "American"-named Fenders are made MIA. Every other Fender sub-$2000 USD are almost certainly MIM. If you can see the back of the headstock, it'll usually say where it was built, and the serial numbers for MIM all start with MX
@@mikeomatic9905 so if it doesn't say "American," then it isn't? That makes sense. Are any Fender branded guitars made anywhere else besides America, Mexico or Japan?
@@Mikey__R Fender had an older line called the "Modern Player" that was made in China but had Fender on the headstock.
What is the deal with those 2015 Fenders?
Does FGN build the fender jv modified series guitars?
No. Dyna Gakki and one other Japanese oem (not FGN) build the Japanese Fenders currently.
Any word on the new version the Fender American Original series reboot?? I thought I almost heard Baxter slip up, but everyone is very tight lipped about the new release info….
Best thing the buyer can do, is try the guitar considered for purchase, because one would be surprised how good an affordable guitar can be; a good set up, and upgrade in pickups goes a very long way
American Professional Strats are down $100 on sweetwater with $150 in bonus bucks.
when is it gonna hit 3k?
What's interesting is the price of food and rent in Mexico is getting close to the prices in the states
Those chibsons and chenders are looking pretty nice
No, no they are not.
you will pay more getting it to play decent than if you just bought a MIM
What’s a because villains..? 😂 Thanks guys. As far as guitar goes, I am *actually* upset about the American Originals going away. They’re insanely good.
My MIM Fender Vintera road worn 50s Strat was $1500 CDN. I was ok with that, it’s awesome. I don’t think I’d pay way more for it just because prices jump though
i sell both MIA and MIM at my Mexican Store, and for sure Mexican models haver better value for the price payed. especially the Player Plus and Vintera series.
Hey guys, great work! Is there any update on your Sliver Sky giveaway? I know your goal was to reach 50k sub! I was humbly asking because I would love a chance to win that beautiful guitar 🤪
I wondered that too. It's no longer featured on the back wall directly behind them.
Feels greedy,It’s just sad 😢 …..what is The federal minimum wage 7.25?✌️❤️
If everything crashes nothing is a thing anymore boy you sound like a philosopher and a wise one that that
I feel you on that grimy neck. I let a guy play one of mine and he didn't wipe it off and it seriously felt like chunks of residue on there🤮
I keep an extra right handed and a lefty on hand for others to play..I have the guitars I've dreamed of owning my whole life and I'm not taking the chance w anyone 99%of the time just so they can play for a bit...one slip.. broken headstock...2gs gone....nah...homies can play my Epiphone Les Paul special 2...great guitar for the $$ and I have it set up real nice..😃🤘🎸🎶
@@ericwarrington6650 I just say no now lol. But that is a great idea. I do have some cheaper guitar from when I was younger others could play. This particular guy ended up getting a 90s strat so he doesn't try to play mine anymore
We would see that in the shop. Someone with bad body chemistry would play a guitar for a while and he next day it would feel dirty and the strings would be corroded.
I just recently bought back a Les Paul that I sold to a guy a year ago. He did not change the strings the entire time he had it, plus the tail piece was corroded and pitted…talk about gross!
Todays prices are just plain crazy, i have 4 USA standard strats and the most i paid was £600, approx $736 at todays rate.
they are from the eary/mid 2000's and all were bought as mint unplayed examples.
My Custom Shop Strats cost less than todays USA models.
I think myself lucky to have bough them when i did.
The price bands have all moved, we now have Squire's at MIM prices, and MIM at USA prices.
That Fender logo has become way too highly priced.
If the logo on the headstock is not important, take a look at the Sire's they are an excellent alternative
at a much lower price.
From Leo: It would be interesting to see the actual Hands on time to build something like a Strat or Tele. I'll bet we would be surprised how little time it takes. Most automobiles have less than 36 hours hands on time, (18 hours building sub assemblies 18 hours assembling the car) I would not be surprised if a guitar was less than an hour. One hour at $45.00 an hour or one hour at $1.90 an hour (Mexican wage), does not make much difference in the production cost of a guitar.
The guitar may only take one hour of total time to be built - but it will take lots of different people all on X an hour to get it built within one hour.
I hope they spend more than an hour building and quality checking my $1k guitar...
Not at all saying that Gibsons are better or worse but it should be obvious to anyone that Gibsons should have a higher price than Fenders for this exact reason. The building process is so much more complex and time consuming with much more work done by hand.
That makes all the difference in the price
Might be worth your while to watch some of the Gibson guitar assembly videos. Just producing a (solid)body takes cutting, routing, sanding, finishing, buffing...that's five people touching it, plus the handling in between. Build a neck lately? One hour? I don't think so.
I've got a couple guitars I'd like to sell and I think maybe I'll stick them in their cases and sit on them for a while.
To put this into perspective, I have just completed a purchase of a custom spec'd, hand built by a single person who's been doing this for decades, K-Line Springfield for around $2,900 shipped. In every respect, if I want to be really conservative about it, it is equivalent to a Fender custom shop instrument. In reality, it's a masterbuilt guitar. It didn't even cross my mind to go off the shelf for a few hundreds less, let alone for almost twice the price for a custom shop, just to have a specific shape and decal on the headstock.
Totally agree and Ive made a couple of similar custom built purchases myself. To play devils advocate, the main benefit of buying the "brand" for a premium is its value to a broader group of people (i.e. easier to sell). Many custom shop Strats hold same value as purchase price. Cant say the same for (most) boutique builders. I know many people dont go into guitar purchases for the resale value, but to me its a hard reality if Im dishing out 2K+ for a guitar
@@jdemedeiros1 Let me devil advocate back. That's a common perception, but if you go and look at Reverb what the supply of used Fender Custom Shops is at the moment, and what has sold recently, I question if there is much actual advantage in this regard. I think around 25-30% percent drop, in general, kind of holds for a lot of brands, large and small. I also question how special Fender and Gibson custom shops really are. They seem to be a dime a dozen, in stock, everywhere, all the time.
Squeezing over guys all out of squeaks here, 😂😂👍Respect to you fellas.
I am Loving the journey of collecting my Guitars... I'm a Lover of High Quality Fine Crafted Guitars... so since I can't afford those... 72 reissue Tele it is... I Have 7 Guitars 1 Bass, and need 6 more, None the same model... I Don't understand people who have 7 strats or 7 Les Pauls before they buy a gretch or 2 Sterling by music man, Sheraton, Showmaster... Variety is the spice not monotony... Troy from Atlantic City
Not that I took advantage this time but now again Taylor is doing their GS mini for $199. Awesome deal and many will wait for a price drop.
I thought you had to buy another Taylor to get a Mini for that price? (Also the Baby Taylor was in there there too)
@@mikeomatic9905 you do. But if you are looking for a great Acoustic and get a 200 series I believe you can get the BabyTaylor or mini for a great price (personally the Mini hands down).