Great that you are telling everybody not to stare at the horse’s eyes. Some advise to look at the feet so as not to make things personal It’s so hard to avoid looking directly at the face. Is there any merit to standing still and not moving your feet? And one more question lol. I know you are just trying to get the “Go” right, but eventually, would you send her around several times in order to make sure she bends and keeps her shoulders and hind quarters safely away from you?
I never said once to not stare at a horse's eyes, I do that all the time and have no issue with it. I see no merit or justification to advise such a thing nor to stare at their feet. I should probably cover that in a video as that is one the most irritating myths (for me) in the horse training world. I'm not looking for a bend, and if you ponder the idea of "hind quarters safely away", doesn't that mean that I probably don't have trust? If I went that far in the exercise, I would have left a gap. What I am simply looking for is to have the nose drawing to me a bit wondering if I'm going to leave so that they can come along.
It just occurred to me that there's a set of videos you haven't seen yet. I'm going to send you the series of videos (I think there's about 15 of them) of working with Mocha right from the beginning. These were made available to members and I thought I had sent them to you but maybe I sent a different list to you in the past... Anyways, you'll see in them that I am always looking at her and that in fact it makes a difference in the positive direction rather than the negative that so many trainers have out there.
@@StableHorseTraining some horses can push into you as you send them around, which I thought was a safety concern, not a trust issue. As far as looking at their feet, it was just an alternative to looking away towards the place you want her to go. To be honest, I prefer your method. I hope I didn’t insinuate you should never look a horse in the eyes, cause I definitely disagree with that. I an full of questions, but look to you for the answers. Thank you!
Email sent!! I hope you're bored... there's a lot of videos.. If I have a safety concern, don't I have a trust issue? It makes sense that those two ideas go hand in hand but perhaps I'm not seeing it right. As for looking at their feet, what's the purpose? What goal do I have staring at the feet of the horse in comparison to something else? I guess I just didn't make myself clear in the video, I'll do a follow up I think, as I'm almost never sending a horse around me, I'm going with them and I'm looking to go together. There is a time and a place to put a horse in a different spot around me as I do in the follow up video tomorrow with tarps, but I just have absolutely zero purpose to sending a horse in a circle around me and if anybody thinks about it, they too will wonder why on earth people have been doing this for so many years. It's truly pointless and has no connection to saddlework. I personally think it creates more problems than it solves that just need solving later.
Momo is such a neat little filly. She's beautiful, responsive and smart. I love the way she handles and balances when she is running and turning. She's a very athletic horse.
What a lovely training session. Mocha is full of energy but she is so sweet and responded wonderfully to your groundwork. She is going to be a great Big Momo with some time especially under the hands of your effective but gentle training.
Great video! I love how you teach your horses…it’s gets them to think and not just react. And everything you do is so relatable to us humans. Thanks for sharing your stuff with us. Hugs to all the horses there!
Good Job. I'm impressed too She's learning quick but time is running..in about 1 year she's a horse but now she's a lil snuggle bug. Like to watch these vids about groundwork in a good and acceptable way, just quiet and patient but consistent. Thank you for sharing this vid with us.. 🐎
Mocha is so sweet. She runs as though she is weightless. I love when she kicks up in the air. It’s so cute. You are so gentle and kind with your horses. What a beautiful combination that makes both you and the horses so happy. Love your channel.
I love your taking a slow and gentle method of beginning training with one so young, as Mo... What you’re teaching will be more apt to stay with her as she learns and chances are, she’ll become a more confident, settled horse as she grows... Looks like she looks to you for cues and catches on pretty fast!!! Great Job!!! 😇
Seeing you work with her, and how she responded, and then how you treated her, touched on my own perspective on how we should treat horses. Thank you for sharing your beautifully bridled passion.
Good Morning to You ! Right off the bat you said something that has set you apart from most other Trainers . Consider the lead rope as holding hands . WOW can’t agree with you more. You are the One who confirms over and over my feelings about handling a Horse. And watching you actually do this kind of Training ,is so encouraging. I have always kept in mind what you said about the lead rope being a cheat . Had to stop and give a YAY 💜 Laura 💜Bear 💜 Willow 💜🐴
Se really does well for a so young filly coming from the wild ! At least domestic young horses are normally used to see other horses being trained by two legs ! She responds well, remains calm and attentive.👏👏 I never understood the real objective of having horses go round in circles around a man with a wip in the middle of a round pen or arena.
There is no objective other than to "move the feet". It's such a primitive way of thinking about training in my mind as there is so much more to it and a far superior way of moving both ours and their feet that translates later on so much quicker. It takes time for new techniques and ideas to come forth and until the older folks that are still teaching step aside, there will be many that idolize them and those that follow them as it is just the norm..
She was right full of beans! Awesome training session with Mocha, she is starting to get it. There is one aspect of any training that you mention periodically, but I think needs reiteration as often as possible - having and maintaining a calm demeanor. Often I had seen people trying to work with horses when they were clearly unfocused, upset, irritated or even angry. Then blame the horse and call it "dummy, idiot, stupid, useless", etc., when it doesn't respond as they think it should. Every tool and technique you use is a conduit of your own energy which directly affects the horse you are working with.
Thanks Sandy! Yes, it's true. I see a lot of very unhappy trainers, not enjoying their time, or perhaps enjoying being angry or dominating? not sure.. not healthy for horse or human I think. Horses do pick up on if we are happy or not and it works to our advantage if we work with them in a happy way that feels good for all.
And... When Momo runs, she runs happily and straight to the point. She doesn't buck like Gracie does, for example. I noticed that some horses buck a lot when galoping and others don't. That makes me wonder if rodeo horses are selected on that natural tendency to buck and then, are abused to only buck.. .
I do have many videos on that topic, most of them are in the groundwork playlist. There is one on how I work from the saddle to slow a horse down, most of it is remaining calm and working on stopping the feet much more than moving them. This means I want them to pay attention to my feet and my feel, if they don't care about me then they'll never connect up to do that. Connection is key.
HI Graeme, excellent video. I have been working on ground works and it's been going well since our video training sessions a while back. The question or questions I have came up at 21:11 about "watching the nose". I have two geldings that will lean their nose out or away from me in one direction. Their inside ear is checking on me, but their head is saying they'd rather be somewhere else. What's the best way, or some of the ways I can address this? We have a new 4yo horse that I am starting ground work with, his departures to the right are very solid, but the departures to the left are 50/50. He easily gets worked up to the left and once he starts getting nervous he just starts yielding his hindquarters. We've only been working on this for a couple of days, but when this happens I slow everything down and approach the departure from his left side. Is there anything I could think about more when this kind of reaction kicks in? Thanks again for the great the information once again, always learning more and more from these videos you put up for us.
Thanks Rick. If it were me I'd probably completely change the pattern up and vary that too. So if a horse checks out on me regularly, I'd pretend to go check on something the opposite way and just walk off with them. In time they will start to wonder what the heck you're always so interested in and the fact that you're always just wandering off on them. Then they stay checked in more often. That's one option. My guess is that you've established a clear pattern they can check out on. Just change that. Reassure him and continue to work that side. That's a one sided horse and they can take a bit to feel good on both sides. Approach from that side, halter on that side, touch, move, lead... just everything from that side. Switch it up here and there, but that side can be your primary for a bit. Look for spots on the body that are touchy, reassure and be firm about it in a kind way. If you're scratching or touching nice and they move away, firmly let them know they have nothing to worry about, get soft right after. Work on the ears and eyes, touch the mouth, pick up the feet etc. The stifle area is another odd spot for them and sometimes the belly. Look for scratchy spots and leave them wanting just that one more scratch. Hopefully those ideas help :)
@@StableHorseTraining thank you for the great suggestions, I will give them a try. I’ve also been working on box and pizza patterns instead of just nothing but circles. What I’ve noticed some of them will pick up the pace a little when I change it up. I’m incorporating my riding cues when they do that, I hum when I want them to slow down. I should send you a video of our palomino, she has come a long way and now she’s our rock star. Thank you again for the suggestions and tips.
Great that you are telling everybody not to stare at the horse’s eyes. Some advise to look at the feet so as not to make things personal It’s so hard to avoid looking directly at the face. Is there any merit to standing still and not moving your feet? And one more question lol. I know you are just trying to get the “Go” right, but eventually, would you send her around several times in order to make sure she bends and keeps her shoulders and hind quarters safely away from you?
I never said once to not stare at a horse's eyes, I do that all the time and have no issue with it. I see no merit or justification to advise such a thing nor to stare at their feet. I should probably cover that in a video as that is one the most irritating myths (for me) in the horse training world.
I'm not looking for a bend, and if you ponder the idea of "hind quarters safely away", doesn't that mean that I probably don't have trust? If I went that far in the exercise, I would have left a gap. What I am simply looking for is to have the nose drawing to me a bit wondering if I'm going to leave so that they can come along.
It just occurred to me that there's a set of videos you haven't seen yet. I'm going to send you the series of videos (I think there's about 15 of them) of working with Mocha right from the beginning. These were made available to members and I thought I had sent them to you but maybe I sent a different list to you in the past... Anyways, you'll see in them that I am always looking at her and that in fact it makes a difference in the positive direction rather than the negative that so many trainers have out there.
@@StableHorseTraining some horses can push into you as you send them around, which I thought was a safety concern, not a trust issue. As far as looking at their feet, it was just an alternative to looking away towards the place you want her to go. To be honest, I prefer your method. I hope I didn’t insinuate you should never look a horse in the eyes, cause I definitely disagree with that. I an full of questions, but look to you for the answers. Thank you!
@@StableHorseTraining thanks so much!
Email sent!! I hope you're bored... there's a lot of videos..
If I have a safety concern, don't I have a trust issue? It makes sense that those two ideas go hand in hand but perhaps I'm not seeing it right.
As for looking at their feet, what's the purpose? What goal do I have staring at the feet of the horse in comparison to something else?
I guess I just didn't make myself clear in the video, I'll do a follow up I think, as I'm almost never sending a horse around me, I'm going with them and I'm looking to go together. There is a time and a place to put a horse in a different spot around me as I do in the follow up video tomorrow with tarps, but I just have absolutely zero purpose to sending a horse in a circle around me and if anybody thinks about it, they too will wonder why on earth people have been doing this for so many years. It's truly pointless and has no connection to saddlework. I personally think it creates more problems than it solves that just need solving later.
Oh my gosh, I could see her matching her feet/strides with yours!!! It was so cool to see that! 😁
Miss Mocha made me laff out loud! Great to see that - just joyful moving for the sake of it!
Momo is such a neat little filly. She's beautiful, responsive and smart.
I love the way she handles and balances when she is running and turning. She's a very athletic horse.
What a lovely training session. Mocha is full of energy but she is so sweet and responded wonderfully to your groundwork. She is going to be a great Big Momo with some time especially under the hands of your effective but gentle training.
Thank you so much!
Your doing a great job with her
She’s a smart little pony!
Great video! I love how you teach your horses…it’s gets them to think and not just react. And everything you do is so relatable to us humans. Thanks for sharing your stuff with us. Hugs to all the horses there!
Good Job. I'm impressed too She's learning quick but time is running..in about 1 year she's a horse but now she's a lil snuggle bug. Like to watch these vids about groundwork in a good and acceptable way, just quiet and patient but consistent. Thank you for sharing this vid with us.. 🐎
So much more confidence now.
Good job, Momo ❤ !!!
She's so graceful running out trotting.
Mocha is so sweet. She runs as though she is weightless. I love when she kicks up in the air. It’s so cute. You are so gentle and kind with your horses. What a beautiful combination that makes both you and the horses so happy. Love your channel.
I love your taking a slow and gentle method of beginning training with one so young, as Mo...
What you’re teaching will be more apt to stay with her as she learns and chances are, she’ll become a more confident, settled horse as she grows...
Looks like she looks to you for cues and catches on pretty fast!!!
Great Job!!!
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Thank you very much :)
Mocha is going to be as fantastic as all the other Wildies. It's a treat to see her run.
Seeing you work with her, and how she responded, and then how you treated her, touched on my own perspective on how we should treat horses.
Thank you for sharing your beautifully bridled passion.
Mocha’s trying hard to understand what is wanted of her. She’s such a dear little thing. I love the calm, relaxed teaching style. 🐎🐎🐎🥕🥕🥕🥰🥰
Totally Agree!!!
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Really Enjoy your sense of humor-adds a lot to your video’s!!!
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Thank you :)
What a perfect, loving training session.
MoMo is so smart and so full sweetness.
She'll catch on in no time. She has complete trust in you.
Good Morning to You ! Right off the bat you said something that has set you apart from most other Trainers . Consider the lead rope as holding hands . WOW can’t agree with you more. You are the One who confirms over and over my feelings about handling a Horse. And watching you actually do this kind of Training ,is so encouraging. I have always kept in mind what you said about the lead rope being a cheat . Had to stop and give a YAY 💜 Laura 💜Bear 💜 Willow 💜🐴
I think she’s the prettiest:)
Se really does well for a so young filly coming from the wild ! At least domestic young horses are normally used to see other horses being trained by two legs ! She responds well, remains calm and attentive.👏👏 I never understood the real objective of having horses go round in circles around a man with a wip in the middle of a round pen or arena.
There is no objective other than to "move the feet". It's such a primitive way of thinking about training in my mind as there is so much more to it and a far superior way of moving both ours and their feet that translates later on so much quicker. It takes time for new techniques and ideas to come forth and until the older folks that are still teaching step aside, there will be many that idolize them and those that follow them as it is just the norm..
She was right full of beans! Awesome training session with Mocha, she is starting to get it. There is one aspect of any training that you mention periodically, but I think needs reiteration as often as possible - having and maintaining a calm demeanor. Often I had seen people trying to work with horses when they were clearly unfocused, upset, irritated or even angry. Then blame the horse and call it "dummy, idiot, stupid, useless", etc., when it doesn't respond as they think it should. Every tool and technique you use is a conduit of your own energy which directly affects the horse you are working with.
Thanks Sandy! Yes, it's true. I see a lot of very unhappy trainers, not enjoying their time, or perhaps enjoying being angry or dominating? not sure.. not healthy for horse or human I think. Horses do pick up on if we are happy or not and it works to our advantage if we work with them in a happy way that feels good for all.
And... When Momo runs, she runs happily and straight to the point. She doesn't buck like Gracie does, for example. I noticed that some horses buck a lot when galoping and others don't. That makes me wonder if rodeo horses are selected on that natural tendency to buck and then, are abused to only buck.. .
She really has a personality!
I noticed she opened her mouth a moment to pick something up it seems. ❤
I think it was a leaf
Yes, it looked like something as that, she is a cutie and fun. It was so cute when she did that. I wonder what she would do to play with yhe big ball
Nothing so far with the ball, doesn't seem to care
Well done sweet little Mocha ❤!
do u have any videos of this but with the opposite problem? horse with too much go? learned a lot from this!
I do have many videos on that topic, most of them are in the groundwork playlist. There is one on how I work from the saddle to slow a horse down, most of it is remaining calm and working on stopping the feet much more than moving them. This means I want them to pay attention to my feet and my feel, if they don't care about me then they'll never connect up to do that. Connection is key.
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do you teach any of your horses vocal cues?
yes
HI Graeme, excellent video. I have been working on ground works and it's been going well since our video training sessions a while back.
The question or questions I have came up at 21:11 about "watching the nose". I have two geldings that will lean their nose out or away from me in one direction. Their inside ear is checking on me, but their head is saying they'd rather be somewhere else. What's the best way, or some of the ways I can address this?
We have a new 4yo horse that I am starting ground work with, his departures to the right are very solid, but the departures to the left are 50/50. He easily gets worked up to the left and once he starts getting nervous he just starts yielding his hindquarters. We've only been working on this for a couple of days, but when this happens I slow everything down and approach the departure from his left side. Is there anything I could think about more when this kind of reaction kicks in?
Thanks again for the great the information once again, always learning more and more from these videos you put up for us.
Thanks Rick. If it were me I'd probably completely change the pattern up and vary that too. So if a horse checks out on me regularly, I'd pretend to go check on something the opposite way and just walk off with them. In time they will start to wonder what the heck you're always so interested in and the fact that you're always just wandering off on them. Then they stay checked in more often. That's one option. My guess is that you've established a clear pattern they can check out on. Just change that.
Reassure him and continue to work that side. That's a one sided horse and they can take a bit to feel good on both sides. Approach from that side, halter on that side, touch, move, lead... just everything from that side. Switch it up here and there, but that side can be your primary for a bit. Look for spots on the body that are touchy, reassure and be firm about it in a kind way. If you're scratching or touching nice and they move away, firmly let them know they have nothing to worry about, get soft right after. Work on the ears and eyes, touch the mouth, pick up the feet etc. The stifle area is another odd spot for them and sometimes the belly. Look for scratchy spots and leave them wanting just that one more scratch.
Hopefully those ideas help :)
@@StableHorseTraining thank you for the great suggestions, I will give them a try. I’ve also been working on box and pizza patterns instead of just nothing but circles. What I’ve noticed some of them will pick up the pace a little when I change it up. I’m incorporating my riding cues when they do that, I hum when I want them to slow down.
I should send you a video of our palomino, she has come a long way and now she’s our rock star.
Thank you again for the suggestions and tips.