P.K. Subban: You can’t tell me Panarin didn’t hit Oshie in the head! | NHL on ESPN
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- P.K. Subban, Mark Messier and Steve Levy react to Washington Capitals head coach Spencer Carbery’s comments regarding the hit on T.J. Oshie from New York’s Artemi Panarin.
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Subban, one of the dirtiest players in the last 20 years, calling this an illegal hit is rich. Pot, meet kettle.
But he never said it was a "dirty" play, nor did he criticize Panarin in any way for it. To the contrary, he said he loves this aspect of the game. His complaint was about consistency - not penalizing that hit was inconsistent with what we saw during the regular season. And Messier didn't disagree.
The last person I want discussing plays like this is Slewban which is the point @humanbeing missed.
Subban nowhere close to the dirtiest players of last 20 years
Maybe you should listen better, its a 3min clip and you either missed what he said or just ignored it. He is never calling the hit dirty. He goes as far as to mention that he was hit like that, head contact happens, his whole point is, and he is right, that if wilson or rempe did this they'd have been gone, and probably sussy'd, and be honest, you know that's right, if you can't admit that wilson, or say trouba, would have been in trouble and roasted by the media and player safety then you are lying to yourself. He's saying that he's not against big hits like that but if you consistently suspend players for similar hits, which 1,000% has been the precedent set, then you need to keep that same standard, or just say, "hey, it's playoff big boy hockey, get over it", but acting like it's just an everyday no big deal it is just bonkers. Enough with the back and forth and favoritism.
Messier elbows enter chat
Slewban can't stop talking.
Learn how to spell
Agree with Mess here. BTW, Oshie smacked Panarin in the head with his stick and that was not called. Come on. What really sucks is the way that game was officiated. Inconsistent through out.
Love Mess mocking PK at the end😅
Light stick tap=blatant headshot apparently
@@philipreger-zu1is Light stick(?)only because Artie wears a shield. And the hit was full body. Heads knocked after contact.
@@philipreger-zu1is If Panerin had jumped or left his feet prior to contact, I'd be on your side. Pretty clear he hit the body of Oshie first. Bread can't be responsible for Oshie having his head down.
@@RobbyByrne well he clearly aimed up to the head area
Gotta get PK off of ESPN. absolute clown.
Mr. Slewfoot he sucks on these broadcasts.
Well... consider the source. ESPN is THE WORST I have seen in my entire life. The network that brought us Keith Olbermann.
why is this even a discussion, its a clean hit move on.
Subban had just about starting to make some sense and then he goes full Tugg Speedman on this issue. This was a clean through the body check with Oshie not keeping his head up. Panarin did not charge, he did not elevate, he did not raise his arms, he planted his body into Oshie and unfortunately the head took part of the hit. Had this been a straight headshot, anyone who plays hockey or understands physics will agree that Oshie would have been carried out on a stretcher.
EXACTLY RIGHT
You are a moron...but then again, you must be a Rangers fan...one and the same
And the fact he was trying to imply that Panarin was targeting Oshie. If that's the case the Caps play every game with the intent to target. smfh @Slewban
0:25 you can clearly see his skates leave the ground
Closer to 26 seconds but his skates leave the ground. Which means he elevated. Into oshies head
Subban is a clown. Can’t believe Mess has got to sit next to this guy all night. What was funny was when Levy asked him about betting on himself. 😂
He's got energy, fire, and mental consistency. Mess is dancing around the topic and hoping we forget the hit on modano
By Subbans reasoning, every player should just skate with his head down to insure he can't be hit.
💡that's exactly what the league does. also turn your back to the hit along the boards💡
That’s what Ryan Lindgren did till Ovi woke him up. That didn’t get called either.
@@FatRonaldo. the league has made it clear that it is when the head is the primary point of contact then it is a penalty. When you go through the body and the head is collateral damage, the head is not the primary point of contact.
@@tempivrESO That was actually Oshie that did that to Lindgren.
Suban cleary is biased going back to his Devils days. Oshie had his head down plus he was leaning forward. Panarin had his elbows in. Objects in motion tend to stay in motion. CLEAN HIT
DUMB HUMAN
Subban was known as a dirty player - Slewfoot Subban. First contact is Panarin's... um.. hip? into the arm.
Panarin was boxing out a taller player. Panarin's butt and lower back was the initial point of contact. His upper BACK makes contact with Oshie's head on the follow through.
PK needs to learn the rules. He keeps saying "it's contact with the head". If the initial point of contact is not the head, but the subsequent follow through makes contact with the head, it's not a penalty. NHL rules.
Thats clean, it was not the initial point of contact his hip hit first. elbow down, shoulders down, feet stayed on the ground.
He could have hit shoulder to shoulder he goes around him and hits him in the head.
@@ryano1892 Good for Panarin. Oshie asked for it.
Just say it, PK….you HATE the Rangers…
He’s a devil of course he hates us fuck him
Could always just play golf… Boy got rocked by a skill guy…. Hahaha
Mess knows exactly the right thing to say!!! It's Mess after all!!
How ironic is this that it is panarin with the hit after Tom Wilson tried to murder him a few years ago with that cheap shot and Wilson did not get suspended?
And that Oshie gets hit after his questionable hit on Lindgren last year (which Messier objected to and Subban defended). Lindgren missed a month with an "upper body injury."
@@ShibaInu154Oshie dropped the gloves after that hit. Will Panarin? Of course not
@@cleonthewarrior1398 WHy should he? Ashie is a scumbag. Panarin doesn't fight. If Oshie wants to fight, he can fight Trouba, Rempe, Cuylle or Schneider.
@@cleonthewarrior1398why should he? Rangers have momentum and this hit was the pay back for multiple dirty hits from the Caps. Relax
Exactly and let's not forget too that during the game Oshie is smacking Bread with his stick in the head, grabbing, holding cross checking all over before this plus all the history. I for one started clapping and said see keep fucking around and you will find out. He got laid out by small ass Bread 😂. Go ahead and call the Rangers soft again cuz that's all we hear about our team. We give we're dirty. I'm just begging everyone whose not on our side HATES us!
PK looking for clicks and thumbs
What about Tom Wilson hit on Zib in game 1. Had head contact and no ine mentioned a word
Exactly.
Clean hit, didn't leave his feet, no elbow, point of contact was his ass into TJ's gut first. Clean hit
Panarin is an incredibly talented player and this may be the smartest retaliation I have ever seen. Like you said - he doesn't leave his feet - he's moving laterally and not toward Oshie - it's Panarin's upper back that hits him. So smart - and Pararin shows his team and the Caps he is not afraid to mix it up. Panarin timed it perfectly of course - he moves sideways as Oshie's moment makes him slams into Panarin's back. I've never seen anything like it.
@@daveladue1162 The first accurate description of exactly what is in the video. Oshies head goes forward because his body movement is CHECKED. GOSH! just the way the word was originally meant to be used. The point of contact was Panarins shoulders from the back.
Slewban talking outta both sides of his mouth. Dude is the hockey Skip Bayless; says dumb things to get attention
Subban's takes are about has strong has his hands ability to touch the cup.
ESPN will never fire Subban so quickly because they're scared of a potential PR nightmare, but...
They should Fire Subban and hire Snoop to replace him. He's been a fan of the NHL for decades, and honestly knows his hockey... probably better than Subban does.
Imagine Messier and Snoop teaming up, lol. Those intermission analysis broadcasts would be some of the best we've ever seen.
Oshie met karma. Did you watch the same game I did? Oshie was cheap shotting Panarin all game long. Grabbing his face from behind, a high stick to the face, multiple cross checks. Oshie is gonn get lit up before this series ends, most like in the 3rd period of game 4 as the Rangers sweep them.
Exactly 💯 💯
That was a clean hit from Panarin. Hockey is a tough and rough sport. I hope I'm not around when the NHL becomes a no check league... it's inevitable...
I don't want to be alive for that either!
Amen!
So long as checking is allowed, what else is Panarin supposed to do, if he wants to separate Oshie from the puck?
OK, one could poke check, but that turns the NHL into a poke-check-only game.
Checking is allowed. Panarin keeps his skate blades on the ice. He hits body, lots of body, from Oshie's thigh to his right shoulder. What else could he do?
@@danmc7815he's supposed to hit him shoulder to should instead of going around him and clipping the head.
Clean hits often result in concussion protocol 👍👍
No kidding. Guys need to be aware on the ice or you could lose your melon.
clean hit and there was no penalty to be called! TJ had his head bent down slightly, unfortunate that he was shaken up but GREAT NON CALL!
OK yapping off about head contact like that makes it a penalty automatically. Yes there was head contact, which is still allowed in the NHL... Maybe he should read the rulebook.
subban gotta be snortin something if he thinks bread should be suspended lol
be a shame if bread were to lose some teeth tomorrow then maybe you'll understand why you have to call this play a penalty.
Crazy how many ex NHL players don’t know the rules they played under. Dude’s most famous hit against Marchand would be suspendable based on his own “analysis”.
Yet Slubban had no issue with TJ Oshie plowing Ryan Lindgren into the boards from behind and causing him to miss significant playing time last season. He basically blamed Lindgren for putting himself in a position to get injured. Well, same here. Tell Oshie to keep his head up. Clean OPEN ICE hit.
I seem to recall a hit on marchand that was eerily similar to this hit. Who laid that hit? Ohhh, that's right it was slewban.
Proof that players have to police the game. Especially with todays officiating. Panarin would never even considered that hit. Albeit it was still a legal hit. But Washington was getting away with a ton of cheap shots and Oshie asked for it earlier by challenging Panarin and getting some cheap shots in earlier as well. What Subban fails to notice is Oshie brought himself low when he reached for the puck to try and continue to control it. At game speed much different then slow motion to boot.
We all know why PK is on TV, he’s…… GQ and a Ranger hater 🤡
Clean hit! More body contact then anything.
If Oshie wasn't skating around in butt sniffing position he'd be fine. Panarin did everything to make contact with the lowest point (leaning his upper body away) and Oshie led with his face leaning into the hit.
After all the prior dirty - and uncalled - nonsense by Wilson and Oshie, CrabApples has some nerve whining about this.
Keep your head up!
Subban, you can't just say he got in the head, therefore penalty. Where is the initial point of contact? It was through the body and Oshie's head was down. Good hit.
Caps are going to try and take Panarin out next game.
Panarin can obviously take care of himself.
Suspended!? For that hit? What are you smoking?
If that was Tom Wilson he wouldve been suspended then arrested and jailed.
With Wilson’s history he will NEVER have the benefit of the doubt. Bread will have the benefit of the doubt.
TJ Oshie himself said it was a clean hit.
Old " Slew Footing" Subban needs to talk about Sammy Blais's knee , among others.
Clean hit!
Can anyone explain why this anti-Ranger turd hasn’t been replaced yet? There’s nobody else who is well spoken and knows the sport enough that can take his spot?
What the fuck is everyone mad about. Heliterally said that all he wants is consistency and i agree.
Just because you get hit in the head doesn't mean it's a penalty. Maybe if Oshie keeps his head up when he's stick handling he doesn't get hit in the head.
You can intentionally hit somebody in the head just because the name on your sweater
@@hunterlorenz9125 yeah but fortunately TJ didn’t do it
Thanks for the dumbest comment on the thread, so far...
its easy to tell why slewban was a locker room cancer for every team he played for, always has to be the star and loudest and doesnt listen or let others talk just runs his mouth nonstop. ESPN you have improved this year with nhl coverage but for the love of god, stop giving this clown air time.
SUBBAN IS A TOOL... EVERY PUNDIT AND ANNOUNCER HATES THE RANGERS..
Oshie asked for it and Wilson elbowed Cuylle in the head on the face off. So...
Mr. Slewfoot. Why does ESPN torture fans with this guy on broadcasts??
Very dirty hit- I don't expect a major but he threw his arm up to ensure the contact was with oshies head.
Then they called a minor on the caps after it was a clownshow
Oshie's high stick in the face is ok. Panarin lined him up beautifully no leaving the feet no chicken winged elbow. Oshie kissed his shoulder. Oh well
MR SLEWFOOT HIMSELF TALKING GET THE FOH !
Standard hockey move.
Principal point of contact is not the head. This guy doesn't know the rules after having a 12 year NHL career. Sad.
Mess is the man. Watch the video of him hitting Modano in the 90s.
And Gary Roberts in the 80s. Messier played like Howe, and he’s never denied it or apologized for it, because there’s no need for either.
the league screwed this up hard core if the caps are on their way out in game four so will be Panarin or another significant ranger.
This is idiotic, the NHL and our aversion to the concussion specter that hangs over professional hockey has us arguing over clean hits and players that skate with their head down. Flash forward to 2034, and we have a bunch of star forwards that are untouchable. Get real.
CTE is all too realm as a a rabid blood dripping from your gums fam you may not care what happens down the road to the meat on the ice, as apparently the NHL doesn't, but as it's being played and called, both literally and figuratively, it is killing the game and the players. But, what the heck, you can go swill another beer or two and wake up the next day to beat your wife, slap the kids, and kick the dog.
PK is not one of the dirtiest players in the last 2 decades, but he also hates the Rangers. I can't even listen to a guy who lived his career in dirty hits and cry about a body check that the head got hit secondary. Skate with your head up, and this won't happen. Also, how many noncalls did the Rangers get in this game. The officials were horrible in this game. This is one of the only calls they got right and needed video to help.
I guess it was past bedtime for P.K. He forgot that he injured Sammy Blais a couple years ago with his clean (???????) hit to the knee.
This &^%$# is one of the dirtiest players in his playing time. Come on, P.K., gimme a break.
Why does the caps coach talk like that😂😂
Sorry not sorry PK you never get to say “come on Mess” and “back when I played I got hit like this”. Mess played OLD SCHOOL hockey, you better have kept your head up in his day.
2 minutes at worst. Are we going to make that big of a deal about a missed 2 minute penalty, because holy fuck did they miss some penalties last night
The initial point of contact is NOT the head and he didn't skate into it or leave his feet.
It's a good call. It's colateral damage.
Hey subban when the NHL department of player safety gets involved then will know that there was head contact. It’s playoff hockey. Also we have mess at this intermission who knows how to win.
ONE DAY, MESSIER IS GOING TO JUMP UP, AND PUNCH OUT SUBBAN, SUBBAN IS A CLOWN... MR SLEWFOOT IS NOW CONCERNED ABOUT CLEAN PLAYING...
PK would kick his old ass...
@@PatHouseworth Laughable
That's too high imo he's not a dirty player just missed imo still you're responsible
George the flee Mcfee or, Eddie Johnstone at 5/7 did the same..... Hockey is gonna turn into baseball on ice...... Slewfoot is all upset... The Debbie's aren't in this.... Lucky you have a job...... L.G.R.!!!!!😮😮
Baseball on ice? There’s a difference between physical hockey and reverse hitting someone in the face. I don’t think it’s suspendible because it’s not targeting the guy but that’s a penalty man come on lmao
@@Kuch86My point was if they make hockey soft it will be like watching paint dry.....😮😮😮😮 I agree with you..
@@frankt285 I don’t think anyone is trying to make it soft. Nobody wants to see guys get hurt because of a hit like this. Only the players can make it soft. A lot of teams systems don’t want their team running around getting out of defensive position to make a meaningless hit when the player has already gotten rid of the puck. Look at reaves in game 1. Takes himself out of position to make a hit and the bruins score on a 2 on 1. If rather see planarian score a highlight reel goal than make a bone head play like this
Here's subban talk about dirty hits is rich coming from that clown.
Subban is a corncob. Not a lot going on there.
what about oshie high stick on 10# bread so before you speak off it being dirt it was not espn is not good then before that oshie grabbed 10# bread by the neck but nothing called. I love it when also are closed.
Subban, Mr. taking knees out. Oshie was asking for it all game. Funny, I didn't hear Subban say anything when Pastrnak cheap shotted Lindgren twice resulted in Lindgren getting hurt twice. He like Bissomoron hates the Rangers and can't talk objectively on them. If you look at Oshie's history, he's a dirty player who constantly invokes the wrath of other players. There are literally several videos of Oshie getting drilled by other players. It's not a coincidence.
it was a clean hit
lmao PK...can always count on him to be dead wrong, specifically if its Rangers related. Next
God ESPN’s coverage is awful lmao
Laffy had a hit in game 1 that lead to a panarin goal and then was punched, cross checked and slashed by 3 players in the span of 5 seconds and he skated off smiling. It’s the playoffs, put your pants on or go home.
Keep your head up. This is not an ice skating yet
That was a clean hit! Can't even listen to these guys during intermission.
Subban shouldn't even talk buddy ,so what about wilson head hunting all year and his dirty play during this series GTFOH ,we talking about panarin here ,
Cry harder Carberry.
PK ended Sammy Blais's career with his cheap shot.
Ummm…no
The hit was clean and PK remains an embarrassment to hockey.
Subban just can't do his job correctly and come up with talking points, so he has to latch onto "controversial" plays that weren't even that bad. The Caps coach is just milking it for calls next game, which won't work, it was a clean hit that Oshie just wasn't expecting.
Pk the king of slu foot
Subban: You can't tell me Panarin didn't hit Oshie in the head! Thumbnail: Panarin hitting Oshie everywhere but in the head. Yeah, head contact eventually happened at the end of the sequence, but no way it's the primary point of contact or anything like it.
Clean! Wilson can rag doll him we still remember!
Clean hit JS been fan since 74. LGR LGR LGR LGR
Haters gonna hate.
The Rangers always get help from the refs, why the NHL loves them so much idk
The caps coach asked a follow up question about feet leaving the ice, I guess he didn’t see that never happened. And then was confused when Oshie, shaken up, had to leave the ice? Trying to make it about spotters claiming something? Oshie got rocked and was visibly shaken up so he was taken off the ice. Nice try coach.
PK must be forgetting when Tom Wilson ragdolled Panarin & the league did nothing. Also him injuring countless players with dirty plays himself. Hes the last person who should be a pariah of ppayer safety
Hey $hit for Brains what does Wilson have to do with this cheap shot...?
@@PatHouseworth Wilson does things like that every game and never gets called on it.
Clean hit. You don't need to have head contact to have a concussion. Carberry should know that
So if the roles were reversed, and Osh, or better yet Wilson, hit Panarin in the exact same scenario, good hit, no penalty, and zero complaining after?
Slewban
Bad hit. There was head contact.
So Subban and others think it could be a suspension, others think it could be a valid hit “both teams could be right”, sounds like the right call would have been a minor penalty. How Washington goes on the penalty kill after that too is beyond me
Perhpas. . .but how the refs missed two sticks to the face of Panarin by Oshie is also a bit rich. . .
Should have been suspended for 5 games along with the refs
Are we going to forget about when Oshie grabbed Panarins faces???
When Wilson dummied Panarin 2 years ago everyone said how can he do that to a skill guy. Well the skill guy is throwing head shots now so let’s see how these next games go for him.
To think this deserves a suspension is possibly the dumbest take of all time