Richard Raffan on turning boxes.

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  • čas přidán 4. 05. 2024
  • The lid and base of a turned box will always warp to some degree. Here I show how box turners including myself have come to terms with minimising the visual impact of warping lids and bases.

Komentáře • 60

  • @josephfernandes8667
    @josephfernandes8667 Před 23 dny +14

    Thank you for your constant valued education for us woodturners Richard. These are building up to what will be a treasured legacy for woodturners for decades and decades to come. Thank you for your generosity and sharing what can only be learnt by many, mistakes and years of experience.

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 23 dny +12

      Thanks, Joseph. It's my hope that these videos will continue to be around when I not or when I'm otherwise unable to get to a lathe.

  • @WhoGnu08
    @WhoGnu08 Před 22 dny +1

    Awesome video. Thank you, Richard. At this point in my woodturning journey, my need for guidance on design is greater than my need for guidance on the mechanics of turning. Please keep up the good work!

  • @drabusharr
    @drabusharr Před 23 dny +5

    Humble, gentle and immensely inspiring. Mr. Raffan, I wish to now call Sir Richard!. I can't knight anyone but it's my way of giving my highest respect for a master and how refreshing to see an octogenarianl CZcams giant. Thanks for talking, teaching and inspiring.

  • @mikestafford8371
    @mikestafford8371 Před 22 dny +4

    You can always learn from a Richard Raffan video, demo or book. Thank you Richard.

  • @ashleyhoward8926
    @ashleyhoward8926 Před 14 dny

    I got RR's books & videos a long time ago & they are worth re-reading to this day. These design tips help something OK, become so much nicer. Even the notion of matt black sillhouettes to guide form, helps a lot in understanding what matters. Thank you Richard.

  • @Pato290763
    @Pato290763 Před 22 dny

    Thank you so much!!!. Admirable selection of what knowledge to transmit, and the clear and simple way to do it, in this and all the videos.

  • @larrytaylor2903
    @larrytaylor2903 Před 19 dny

    Thanks Richard, for showcasing my small green turned madrone burl box, Of the hundreds of boxes that I have turned following your inspiration ( and regularly "borrowing" some of your design elements) a very small series have been turned green.Thanks for sharing this unique piece with so many more people. I am grateful that you chose one of my pieces to be included amongst some great turning names.

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 19 dny +2

      It's an absolute favourite, Larry, and a reminder of a very enjoyeable workshop. I keep it just above my computer so it's always in view.

  • @cudamank
    @cudamank Před 23 dny +1

    Thank you for sharing. Interesting to see the different methods for working around potential warp page.

  • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning

    Love it.... I specially like your brothers babuska shell boxes....

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 Před 23 dny +2

    Great information. And a bunch of great boxes as examples. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂

  • @brettgl21
    @brettgl21 Před 22 dny +1

    Great advice! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I have learned a great deal from your videos.

  • @juriwagner8822
    @juriwagner8822 Před 23 dny +2

    I literally absorb your videos, Richard. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us.🙏🙏🙏

  • @arkas6797
    @arkas6797 Před 23 dny +4

    These miniatures are works of art. The wood remains alive for many years and any deformations in the boxes do not take away its beauty.

  • @johnnyb95678
    @johnnyb95678 Před 22 dny

    Thank you so much for sharing your expertise and experience on making boxes. There is so much to consider and things to think about when making boxes.

  • @jackthompson5092
    @jackthompson5092 Před 22 dny +1

    Very beautiful boxes Richard.

  • @Dominicaislandmon
    @Dominicaislandmon Před 23 dny +3

    Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge, insight and conclusions. So much to consider when "simply turning a bowl". I enjoy watching you turn, make mistakes and correct them. I've started saving some of my bowls and am beginning to learn a lot from going back and seeing how much improvement/progress I've made in a couple of years. For me, learning to sharpen better has been key, along with being fearless to correct a problem when you are almost finished because you can trust your ability with a tool. Thank you sir.
    Those shell bowls will really be a challenge. Beautiful work.

  • @MarklTucson
    @MarklTucson Před 22 dny

    Excellent video; this was tremendously helpful. I had always thought of having to accommodate the wood movement in a box radially; I had overlooked the fact that the box lid can also warp longitudinally. Appreciate seeing the various approaches for detail and also the considerations for making sure one can readily grasp the base to remove the lid if it becomes tight.

  • @mootnmike
    @mootnmike Před 22 dny

    Absolutely wonderful collection and descriptions.a couple of boxes from millers dale era... Lovely.

  • @bradbyers7505
    @bradbyers7505 Před 23 dny +2

    Thank you for showing us the variety of boxes, joins, lid fits, designs, etc. My neighbor and mentor, Tom Fortenbery, showed me a box he had turned almost 35 years ago. I was absolutely fascinated to the point I started to learn wood turning. He introduced me to your work, the work of Ray Key and others. To this day, boxes are my favorite pieces to turn.

  • @9thousandfeet
    @9thousandfeet Před 22 dny

    What a delightful and useful discussion of box design! It's so important to be thoughtful about how a piece will be used in practice, and the issue of the form of the box providing somewhere for the hand or fingers having somewhere to get a grip really matters. I have found that exploring a piece with my eyes closed, especially with a new design, provides feedback which often leads to improvements in ongoing work.
    Today I very sadly had to retire my last P & N gouge - a 5/8 bowl gouge - as it had been finally sharpened down to the nub. I purchased half a dozen P & N gouges (an Australian brand) years ago because I found them to be the best bang for the buck then on the market. Every bit as good as the tools from England and back then they were considerably less expensive. (They came unhandled too, just the way turning tools should!!) I was very unhappy when I heard they had gone out of business.

  • @s10m0t10n
    @s10m0t10n Před 23 dny +2

    Thank you for sharing this with us. It makes me feel better about all the turned items I made as gifts or for sale that my wife decided to keep. We now have a couple of boxes of assorted woodware that she won't part with - they sit in the loft. Still, if Richard Raffan can keep his work, who am I to complain?

  • @geraldguyette470
    @geraldguyette470 Před 22 dny +1

    Nice collection of design choices Richard , thanks for sharing .

  • @robertcornelius3514
    @robertcornelius3514 Před 22 dny +1

    Very informative video. Thanks

  • @jeffpeters6561
    @jeffpeters6561 Před 22 dny +1

    This is a great video, I learned so much about box turning from you

  • @terrysharp908
    @terrysharp908 Před 22 dny

    Excellent video, thanks for showing the other woodturners work. And confirming that I am not the only one whose boxes have distorted.

  • @richardbufton3605
    @richardbufton3605 Před 23 dny +1

    Some absolutely wonderful boxes Richard.

  • @brianhawes3115
    @brianhawes3115 Před 22 dny +1

    I believe Norm Abraham’s calls it “ celebrate the joint” I use it in cabinet work as well

  • @glennnord2605
    @glennnord2605 Před 21 dnem

    Thank You for sharing , A lot of good information .

  • @eegaugh
    @eegaugh Před 23 dny +1

    Enjoyable and instructive! I think it was Frank Pain who said that someone had gone mad from turning boxes with screwed lids - no doubt best avoided but the method does mean that the lid always ends up in the same place.

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 22 dny +2

      Threaded lids warp in exactly the same way. I had a boxwood salt shaker seize up when taken to the coast, then return to its original shape when it came inland. Threaded lids also creep with age, screwing on further than when made.

  • @Daca023
    @Daca023 Před 23 dny +1

    Great little video on some very cool boxes. Gives me alot to think about, I'm going to try my first one very soon, thanks.

  • @donhess7933
    @donhess7933 Před 22 dny +2

    I love the oyster boxes! Could you do a video on how they're made/chucked?

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 22 dny +2

      I didn't make those, but I imagine the insides were completed first, then each part was fixed over a jam-chuck so the outsides could be done.

  • @gav2759
    @gav2759 Před 23 dny

    Well that was a wee treat on a Sunday morning. Excellently presentation of little boxes. None made out of tick tacky, and none look just the same. Thanks for posting,

  • @MASI_forging
    @MASI_forging Před 22 dny

    Excellent work 👏👏

  • @ned711
    @ned711 Před 23 dny

    Thank you very much for an excellent presentation of some of your beautiful boxes. It confirms what I often say, making boxes is the most fun and challenging thing you can do on a leave. I too have experienced box lids and bases moving over time, resulting in lids binding shut. My solution is to rock the lid on the base and sand the flange at the two fulcrums. Doing this from time to time during the first months after making the box tends to solve the problem, but makes for a looser fitting lid.

  • @davidcochran9322
    @davidcochran9322 Před 23 dny +1

    Absolutely superb Masterclass!! Some of the nicest boxes ever

  • @Braindeaddefault
    @Braindeaddefault Před 22 dny +1

    8===) fantastic wood

  • @nemoemanon6679
    @nemoemanon6679 Před 23 dny

    Much appreciated discussion of box design. Sometimes I use different wood species for the base and lid. Can look dramatic and complementary. The extreme differences between woods distracts the eye from warping but I also use beading to minimize as well.

  • @georgewallace5727
    @georgewallace5727 Před 21 dnem

    Hello Mr. Raffan. According to World Woods In Color by William Lincoln, there is a wood called Sabah kapur which comes from Malaysia and Indonesia and, in the U.K. is called Borneo camphorwood. Its scientific name is Dryobalanops aromatica. HTH. Thanks for the video.

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 21 dnem

      Thank you for that! I've always assumed the board I was given had been named Sabah after the place or port from which it was shipped. It was a treat to work but sadly I never found it or came across it in the 40 years since I had it.

  • @jorisdemoel3821
    @jorisdemoel3821 Před 23 dny +1

    Lovely boxes all. Very good explanations on the advantages of various rim intersections, thanks. Do you know who made the 'leather and studs box' and what the wood is? Thanks for another educational and amusing video.

  • @user-gr3ss5qb1z
    @user-gr3ss5qb1z Před 23 dny

    Здравствуйте, очень интересный ролик вышел,спасибо Вам большое.

  • @mccallan2798
    @mccallan2798 Před 23 dny +1

    Lovely.
    What wood at 8:10 (discussing rounded boxes).

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 23 dny +1

      The small round purple box with the knob is English yew. There was a nail in the yew that stained the wood.

  • @raydriver7300
    @raydriver7300 Před 23 dny

    A very interesting video of just the right length to enjoy while having my second cup of coffee before heading for my lathe. I noticed the vast majority of the boxes the lid fitted over the base rather than a couple where the base fitted over the lid. Is there a rule or is it personal preference? 🌞

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 23 dny +3

      Turning endgrain boxes with suction fit lids is much easier with over-fitting lids, and there's more margin for error and recovery if things go wrong. Crossgrain boxes generally have in-fitting lids for strength: a cross-grain lid can easily brake when dropped on a hard floor. Also in-fitting lids occupy storage space.

    • @raydriver7300
      @raydriver7300 Před 23 dny +2

      @@RichardRaffanwoodturning That explains a question I’ve had for years and never asked. Thank you for taking the time to respond 🌞

  • @user-qk2hw9zj1s
    @user-qk2hw9zj1s Před 23 dny

    Доброго дня, Ричард! Очень познавательное видео. очень! Я не так много делал подобных коробок, но данная проблемма вставала всегда. Я всегда думал, что если древесина сухая, то движения уже не будет. Но, увы... И основная проблемма у меня в том, что крышка, после движения древесины, не закрывается (или не открывается). А если делать крышку с зазором, то она начинает болтаться, что тоже не очень хорошо. А у тебя ВСЕ крышки открываются! Не смотря на явное движение древесины. Как? Почему? В чём секрет???

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 23 dny

      Все эти коробки изготовлены из древесины, которая считается прочной. Если ваша древесина деформируется, раскалывается или скручивается во время высыхания/высыхания, она с большей вероятностью деформируется, несмотря на то, что она очень сухая.
      Vse eti korobki izgotovleny iz drevesiny, kotoraya schitayetsya prochnoy. Yesli vasha drevesina deformiruyetsya, raskalyvayetsya ili skruchivayetsya vo vremya vysykhaniya/vysykhaniya, ona s bol'shey veroyatnost'yu deformiruyetsya, nesmotrya na to, chto ona ochen' sukhaya.
      All these boxes are turned from woods known to be stable. If your woods distorted, split, or twisted as they season/dry, they would be more likely to distort despite being very dry.

    • @user-qk2hw9zj1s
      @user-qk2hw9zj1s Před 23 dny

      @@RichardRaffanwoodturning Если не секрет, из чего лучше изготавливать? В нешей зоне легко доступен дуб, клён канадский, клён американский, ясень, берёза, каштан. Ну и все фруктовые породы.

    • @metodemersic
      @metodemersic Před 23 dny +1

      Thank you again, mr. Raffan. I know this is probably just a small portion of it, but you have a really lovely collection. Thank you for sharing and teaching about functional design. For me, only functional design makes sense, rarely I like some turned item that is not functional. Well, pieces of art are that exception. But still, utilitarian turnings really shouldn't look bad.

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 23 dny

      @@user-qk2hw9zj1s Все это должно быть в порядке при сушке по старой формуле: один год приправы на каждые 25 мм толщины плюс год. Таким образом, доски толщиной 50 мм требуют сушки на воздухе не менее 3 лет. 2 года для квадратов размером 50 мм вполне достаточно.
      All those should be okay when dried using the old formula of one year seasoning for every 25mm thickness, plus a year. So 50mm thick boards need at least 3 years air-drying. 2 years for 50mm squares shoulde be okay.

    • @RichardRaffanwoodturning
      @RichardRaffanwoodturning  Před 23 dny +1

      @@metodemersic I really enjoy using well designed wooden bowls and plates with exceptional grain. Revealing the grain whilst completing a meal is always a pleasure. You see a few of thse in czcams.com/video/qAg8-8Z6xw0/video.html on bowl design.