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- What's it like doing 3100-miles in 10 days on the Ducati Panigale V4 S? Mostly pleasure...with a little bit of pain thrown in for good measure.
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"None of the bikes missed a beat", the V4 only had an electrical fault that required a reset at the factory, the engine warning light came on, the handlebar grips came loose and the quick shifter broke. Oh Ducati. Never change. ♥️
and the involuntary vasectomy
Hahaha. Meanwhile I’ve put 60k miles on a Suzuki Vstrom w zero issues
@@bertito43 wow that's pretty awesome! I've got 30k on my R1 and it still kicks ass
The first Bmw s1000rrs... Spit out their crankshaft on track lol No brand is perfect.
Amen😂
I race, i road test for mcn, i commute, spent every day buzzing around the moterbikes, but touring for me is the best thing u can do on a moterbikes ❤️❤️❤️🔥. Indeed
I rode Ducs about 20 yrs ago. Good to see they haven't changed the plastic reservoirs and that the clutch fluid still turns black instantaneously.
And you need to bleed the clutch pretty much every 250 miles. It's a feature :P
Nice to see an 848 Streetfighter on the trip. I’ve had one for 3 and a half years and its the best bike I’ve ever had.. I’m on it everyday and it doesn’t miss a beat!
it was the 1098 one ;) both beautiful bikes
Mr Thinker they’re great, aren’t they. My mate’s is the 1098S - lovely bike.
I can't even imagine how fast that is! My 848 still scares me... Would love to have a go on one
I have to take my hat off to you for doing this trip on a Duc. I see you visited my neck of the woods in Croatia. That highway with long sweeping corners down to Grobnik is nice if it's not raining. Rijeka to Split is also a riot, you just have to watch out for Interceptors ;)
I just wanted to add that I agree about your statement on Touring. I have done some track days back in a day, commuted to college for 4 years, etc. But the most memorable is my cross-country ride on my Blackbird, from NYC to LA and then to Laguna Seca up 101. This was in 2013, last year for MotoGP held at that amazing track. It was a pilgrimage, revelation, and utmost joy. Two wheels, One Love :)
That’s a big trip on a V4! I only did a small tour with mine, around 300 miles. Hit traffic in a town, stop and go for an hour. The heat was unbearable and it started to bog and overheat. It was supposed to replace my 2017 gsxr 1000 but after having a flawless 1000 mile journey in 24 hours on my gsxr. I gave the win to the Suzuki and sold the v4. I would say it is debatable considering people saying that it’s better for street use now. I think it is, but just by a little. This bike is one hell of a track monster and so beautiful that I think most people are trying to force that peg. The desire to ride this beautiful machine all the time just keeps persisting even if the experience just isn’t as rich as other bikes(unless you are doing 150+mph pulls). This was my experience in the last four Ducati’s I have owned. Riding a machine of passion... good times!
JDQuest I don’t hate myself enough to tour on a race bike! Lol
Yeah its pretty painful I will say. I do not plan on ever doing another Iron Saddle on a gsxr lol.
excellent comment
100% agree!
Big props on doing such a long run on a sportsbike. I was in croatia myself this year on my new Multi 950. We also did the coastal road E65, and it really is an amazing ride, especially the southern part that's really twisty!
Lasse J Ougaard how did you like the 950?
talentedmangina I love it. Of course it's still italian and has it's quirks, but that's what gives it character.
I've had it since the start of july and I've done over 10.000km on it! It hasn't missed a single beat. It's relatively nimble, it's plenty fast and very comfortable - especially with the option comfort seat. The only things I miss compared to a from the 1260 is a tiny bit extra bottom-end torque and the cruise-control, but I never missed any more power. It's right in that "golden" zone.
I bought my 2012 cbr1000rr new and never had one issue and it still rides as new as it did when I first bought it. No heat issues and butter smooth and comfy for a superbike. However, it lacks the character my former Ducati I had BUT I trust my Honda and Yamaha bikes more to keep me riding and with cheap maintenance.
Here here, after track days, touring is number 1 the best thing you can do, so many places to go!
2:10 Jesus that is a busy track day at Mugello!
In 2016, I rode my Ducati 899 from Phnom Penh to Hanoi. Through Cambodia to nearly Siem Reap, turn right up into the mountains on the Thai border, then up through the middle of Thailand, in what seemed to be continuous driving rain - even rode through a wash away (localized flood). Across into Laos and up into the mountains again - then down again for a side trip to Vientiane for a new visa, then back up again to cross into Vietnam, down the mountains to the coast. And on day 8, a 4 hour sprint into Hanoi. Temperatures always over 30c often more than 35c - 8 days, 2,500km and 4 countries - and my 899 never missed a beat.
If that is not having fun and enjoying life, I don't know what it is. :-) Very very nice video. Thank you Michael and Friends.
doing all that in dry weather
I'm collecting my V4 on Saturday.A one owner,standard model done in speciale colours.Nice to hear it's not a crippler over longer distances.Presumably that's without the comfort seat they offer for it too? The Italians have always made beligerent,fiery bikes and to hell with comfort and conformity.Hopefully they're relenting a bit and we might even get a sports bike with cruise control and heated grips one day! :-)
Heat grips can always be fitted! Very jealous, you're picking one of these animals up, I was close before summer but it was between this or a house. The thought of central heating and affording food appealed more than hugging the engine for warmth in December. Hope you enjoy every second of this bike, once in a lifetime opportunity!
TimmyTwoWheels Thanks.Yes I know what you mean because I'm far from wealthy too.Hopefully the battery won't go flat in winter before the engine hugging! I've had some fast bikes in the past but this is completely off the scale.Put in race mode with wheelie control set to 1, it's a very dangerous beast.Wouldn't have it any other way though :-)
Love the very last sentence ....... ''touring is the best thing you can do on a bike'' - after trips to Belgium, France, Germany, Spain + several Scotland trips with a bunch of great mates I can wholeheartedly agree.
I don't want to come across as a fanboy but i do enjoy this fellas work and have done for some years. Wild horses couldn't get me to buy a ducati but i appreciate his enthusiasm.
Hope you've enjoyed my Croatia! That road is amazing.
Zdravo, my family is from one of the Islands.
Thanks Michael, what a lovely review full of information and great content. Thanks for all the very useful information. Keep it up mate.
Great video! I'm hoping you have enough footage of that trip to offer us a longer version of that story. And Michael is one of the best moto journalists out there.
Hello Mr. Neeves. I’m sure that you are being diplomatic and even toned in your critique of the bike, but let me help you out with a few, true real life experience. I sold my 2016 BMW S1000RR to purchase the Speciale. I agree with the few things that you mentioned: 1) fuel range anxiety (my fuel light comes on at 85 miles); 2) The heat is akin to sitting on the surface of the sun (even after the full Akro exhaust install); 3)Due to the extreme attitude of the subframe, you are pitched forward creating painful fatigue of the shoulders, elbows, and wrist; 4) and yes, the quick shifter has a mind of its own, focused mainly on not working at all!; List continued: 5) the kickstand is inaccessible; 6) Useless non-folding mirrors; 7) The dim and shallow beam of the head lights limits the bike to DAYLIGHT USE ONLY; 8) the extended windscreen creates horrible wind buffeting with limited wind protection; 9) the Speciale’s seat lack of grip, as if treated with Castrol synthetic oil; 10) In order to adjust the shift lever, you have to remove the entire rearset from the bike; 11) DUCATI forgot to install “Neutral” in the transmission; What really has me upset is that the person that I sold my bike to, will not accept an even trade for my speciale. He refuses to give me my RR back. My Speciale is up for sale to get what ever I can for it. One of the worse mistakes that I have made in my 20 years of bike experience.
Sheesh ah man, sorry to hear you’re not happy with it. Have you taken it on track? It might redeem itself.
Sheesh thanks for the honest review. For road use not the bike for me.
neevesybikes Take it to the track? Is that all it is good for? Do they come with a truck and trailer to get it home?
If I was in your situation I would just park it outside any McDonalds on a sat night and use it to get balls deep in all the young flange
Ouch!, think I'll hang on to my s1000rr, comfy with cruise, heated grips and factory fit luggage
You did that entire trip on BST Carbon Fiber Wheels, that's insane! But glad to hear they held up to the road and didn't crack or anything. I've always been weary about putting carbon fiber wheels on the road, with potholes and such.
One of these days I'm gonna take a badass trip like that
Epic review of the bike mate, was also good to meet you and your brother in Switzerland for coffee, Touring is a life changing experience for anybody who rides, well worth doing for the heart n soul
Swiss Motorbike Tours only for those born with a silver spoon mate
work hard enough anybody can have a bike like this,
Wow, now that's a review!
Looks like a great trip, thank you for sharing it with us
Wonderful video. Well put together. Nice pics and vid's of the countrysides, nice narration to accompany what happened on the trip, and appreciated how you displayed your gear you took for the trip. ps: I own 3 Ducati's (916 bored out to a 955 full race kit; and two 998R's both never homologated and in full Euro specs. There is absolutely nothing on earth like a Ducati!!). Keep up the great vids brother and I am subscribing as a result of watching just this one video. All the best!
thx 4 this next great review!
For me u r by far the BEST motorcycle reviewer out there!
Always looking for new videos from you.
I`m lucky cause the B500 starts right in front of my front door ;=)
Bob Ross lucky devil!
Great video. Shame you had rain. The weather was glorious for the Moto Guzzi Festival around Como/Mandello del Lario.
Road from St. Moritz down to Chiavenna is amazing, especially the Maloja Pass.
I've got the BST 5 spokes on my Multi... really fantastic wheels - yes they're excessive for a road bike... but I'd do it again given the chance and the spare change.
Man, I really love the way the multistrada looks. I think it's the best looking bike in the group. And I own a hypermotard 939sp.
Wooow you had a dream trip..i wish i can make trips like this....
You are truly living the dream
Italian electrics... Somethings never change.
And just wait until it's out of warranty... Each of those "must swap out an entire unit as these have no servicable parts " cost a small fortune. You have been warned.
Great video as always. Dream bike and trip for me. Cheers from North Carolina.
I agree with touring on a bike. It's magic!
Thanks a lot micheal neeves for the long term review after alps trip
Sport touring bikes have become uncommon now, so I’m really happy to hear the Panigale V4 holds up very well. I would buy this any day over something like the Tracer 900 GT or even the Ducati SuperSport 939.
Great Video hello from Boston USA ... thanj you
As a shorter rider I prefer the ergonomics of the older Panigale L2. The reach is shorter making me more upright without laying over the fuel tank, the seat/saddle is slimmer/narrower making it easier to flatfoot. But the v4 is so smooooth...
Living the dream.
I did take it to the track, however, the quick shifter was so unreliable, with cutting the motor off and not advancing too the next gear, or not working at all, that I was not able to gain confidence with the bike ( even after switching off the DQS, I had clutch fade, requiring bleeding the clutch between sessions- I forgot to mention this problem in my list above). Also, I didn’t feel comfortable with the thought of bouncing my $50,000 bike (after fees, taxes, title, etc...) down the track. I will admit: there is a steep learning curve when going from an in-line 4 to a V4 motor configuration. The level of confidence and comfort that the BMW S1000RR provides right out of the box, does not translate to the Speciale.
Sheesh the V4 is quicker than the Beemer in standard trim (although you can make the S1000RR faster with a few tweaks), but it needs a very different way of riding. My QS is fine now, the lower screen is quieter and once you get the knack of the stand it’s ok. Stick with it!
How cares anyway, spending money on bikes is like spending money on women, they run great for a few miles and then grap out on you. Then like a fool go get another one.
can you tell us more about the transition from I4 to V4?.. aside from the electronic issues you mentioned. thanks
What's a clutch fade?
See I got a zxr400 and a Vfr 400 , I prefer the Vfr with the v4, easy to ride , I have to push my zxr400
Brilliant review. Bags of info - will watch again for the tips.
But tell us more about those motorway passes. Perhaps in the paper.
Great review! Man I want a life like yours!!! 🏍👏👏👏
I would love to come to Europe and do what you and the guys have done. My 1198 has the same quick shifter issues etc.... Somethings never change. Thanks.
Outstanding. Enjoyed watching this 👍
0:30 ahhh look at those 2 beauties... the v4 which I dream of owning and the Dacia Logan which is my dad's car that he'll give me after i get my license in a couple of months... ahhhh look at them both in the sun... such stunning pieces of art
Nice one cheers Neevsey .
Great review as always....MCN awesome work ...I enjoy you a lot 👍👍✊✊✊🔥🔥🔥
what a trip! fantastic!
Really great trip, thanks for thr recap
would be good to see a route map of this trip
over 2000mi on a Panigale, your chiropractor must love you haha. I think I would prefer a Multistrada for a trip like that.
was thinking about the V4 in the streetfighter S the whole time
This was a great overview, thanks!
On my review I thought it was the best bike I have ever ridden for its purpose. Only comfort and price are the painful bits.
Great job Michael. It looks like you had a brilliant trip. I always enjoy your contributions to MCN. Are you still racing?
Great video, thanks for sharing all that info.
The best part is touring on any bike!
So jealous of you guys over in Europe, our roads over on Aus don’t even scratch the surface... this trip you did is it something you made up on the go or did you follow a set route taken by many before? I would love to one day ride or even drive through Europe
VolksBIMA Europe is the ultimate biking playground, that’s for sure....although you’ve got Tassie, which is amazing. I planned the overnight stops before I went, then made the rest up on the hoof.
Fantasic looking bike! And wow - what a trip! Damn - I wish I had mates like this! None of my friends ride.
Perfection. 👍
Helluva trip!
Respect
Great, my kinda trip.
I love sports bikes. Always have. But I’ve had to get a Diavel due to my back not loving sports bikes anymore lol. (Diavel is great by the way! Best bike I’ve owned)
What I find funny with sports bikes (guilty of this myself by the way) is any hint of country road, you’re downshifting for corners and trying to drag knee! Meanwhile, the guy in front on a touring bike like the multi or the BMW GS’s, they’re just cruising round at the same speed and not coming close to death at all 😂 I think all sports riders are very guilty of this 😂
Enjoyed the video - well done! But you mention a lot of rain, but saw no rainsuit in your backpack (because it would have taken up half of it). How'd you manage that?
Although I love the Panigale, on a trip like that I prefer the Multistrada or the 1000XR.
You Michael Neeves are one though guy doing mileage like that on a super sports bike.
So what do I have to do to enjoy my life like these guys?
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"None of the bikes missed a beat", the V4 only had an electrical fault that required a reset at the factory, the engine warning light came on, the handlebar grips came loose and the quick shifter broke. Oh Ducati. Never change”
When you spend this much on a bike, it should work flawlessly in the rain……….
Excellent Video, would be good if you put all the kit and ride recommendations in the description and links to check them out. Keep up the great work MCN the best!
They all appear in MCN. You'll have to buy the paper!
neevesybikes Wednesday my favourite day of the week! Buy MCN every week without fail! ☝️👍
Net Millionaire top man. Thanks for reading!
Damn. Just randomly watching this video and there's Dave. Hope he is found soon.
Mike you can be a tourist guide too😂
Good video
@mcn @Neeves Back up, back up, you glossed over the most important story - packing cubes.
Please continue, it's about time you did some talk about practicalities of touring kit. I know people that take so much crud with them, but you still got to think smart, don't want 15 stones in your rucksack all day
thanks for a great video. :)
Why is the check engine indicator on?
Great great review! 👏
ooh, now i want one
Great vid as ever.
Still not convinced with the V4. I prefer the 1199/1299style. I can’t put my finger on it but it’s definitely design/fairing related.
Some trip
I have heard from numerous riders heat from the Ducati engine is an issue.
But you ‘always’ tour on sportbikes!? I guess you love them the most, right?
I have donne more than 35000km on Tours with my 1299 and i only using Sportsbikes.The Heat yes but on my 2007 R1 it was the same or eaven worst.But for the look of the ExaustDucati has to go this way.The Problem is if you wont a good looking Exaust you have to live with a litle bit of Heat.The BMW just heating on the Frame all that Bikes has a litlle bit of issuise with heating more or less😎
man on moon not just the heat but the forward position, the weight on your arms and wrists.😳
Absolutely
@@Miguelito0oO thats all true but i only driving Sportbikes and dont have that much experience on Touring Bikes.For shure is mor Confortablle to Traveling on a GS but this type of Bikes it never will be main.
Eight thousand mile grundies?! Might want to wash them in dot 4.
Fantastic journal! Couple of questions though. How much of an issue is/was the 110 mike fuel limit in practice and totally separate question carbon wheels first or some exhaust changes to improve heat related comfort?
The engine light was on!?
Wouldn't dream of it on an R1
Neeves, I agree that touring is the best but is the V4 the bike you would do it on for the most fun exp? If no what would you take ?
Brilliant review and great experience . Love seeing a sportsbike being used like this for touring. Question - what make of rucksack did you use again , and was it comfortable on such a long trip. I will not ask how you managed to pack your MSN leathers though - ha . I had an 899 but would never would had considered such a ride , do you believe V4 is more comfortable. Great report
Kreiga R30 rucksack. I didn’t take leathers with me - I borrowed some to do some laps at Mugello (that’s my bro in the vid wearing my old MCN leathers). V4 has a very similar riding position to the 899. 👍
87,000 km or 54,000 miles on a 2012 R6 and zero issues. How many "beats" would this V4 miss by then?
Im not sure if ducati is paying for all the positiv comments over all social media. If you talke to people in real life i get a different story told. But as someone already told, no brand is perfect and ducati will fix all the problems they have with the bike. And dont but it on the track if you want to have it for longer. Anyway, its still a nice looking bike if this is worth all the money.
02:59 does the Check Engine Light default to "on" for all Ducati's when touring?
Only last month I went touring on my 796 Monster: CEL came on 30 minutes after leaving my house.
2300 miles/one week later I got back home and the light never came on again... xD
Great video and looked a fantastic trip. Completely out of my price range and tbh even though I have a Ducati desert sled I wouldn’t risk the electrical woes of any of the bigger Ducatis if I could afford one. You hardly see any European bikes in endurance racing: wonder why. Also read that Kawasaki have 3750 service intervals. 7500 for a powerful v4 is too long given the revs they maintain and relatively low amount of oil they carry. Is the bike yours or an mcn one? Keep up the good work
Alguno sabe el portamatriculas que marca es ? No se cual ponerle a mi ducati panigale v2 , gracias !!!
A check engine light and hardware break are fairly noteworthy problems
what tank bag is that on the ducati v4s ?
What helmet make and model does Multistrada guy have? Like it a lot! Thanks in advance for the answer.
Oh, look at that chain 😍
What is the chain lube that you use?
Fantastic review! And you visited my hometown (Rijeka) along the way!
I am considering replacing my 17’ s1000rr with V4S in few months, how would you compare the two?
Did you get the Ducati V4S? If yes how do you like it?
Thank you
Hey I’m curious how do you guys prevent your bikes from getting stolen on such a long trip??
Are Ducatis not too hot for long rides?