Hey everybody. I recently made a new version of this plot concept showing max power levels over time: czcams.com/video/-6mdtSQ-6vU/video.html This version reduces the amount of bar movement quite a bit since power levels only increase. I also made it so that transformations occur in-place, so you don't have bars dropping off and new bars coming in for each new transformation.
IndigoZ0 not true. in the manga whis even said that he never restricted them from using their super saiyans. Goku and vegeta just decided not to for some reason
Now I know why Piccolo never got a Super/Legendary Namekian powerup: He'd wipe the floor with everyone if it was on a similar level to Super Saiyan's multiplier. I still think he should get a God form though, he's been irrelevant for too long. It's time for either him or Gohan to kick someone's arse way harder than Goku or Vegeta could have again.
Thanks for the feedback. I wanted to show the story of battles which involves power levels going up and down, but that is a good idea to reduce confusion that I will keep in mind for the future.
DataDaft the next video you do on the power levels keep the power caps of each character and don’t make the transformations different characters make them just increase that current characters power cap
@@skiddybigman2636 Power caps would be simple enough--it would actually make things a lot easier--but the transformation thing is hard because the software I used does not allow for transforming a bar to have a different image or color on the fly. It would require either writing custom software or doing a ton of editing (i.e. shooting a different video for every single transform and editing them all together). But if I were to try to improve this even further I would have to do something like that. Perhaps a long-term project. =)
pp lebronjames I know and never said he was stronger than Krillin. Back in the old Dbz sagas there was a lot of jumping between back and forth with Tien and Krillin. But yeah in Super, Krillin is the strongest human.
A lot wrong with the numbers and the graph imo, SSJ is a 50x base multiplier but it's shown to be 3 to 4 times max on here, SSJ3 is 4x SSJ2 but it's represented as 2x here, the fusions are said to be the powers of both users added together then multiplied tens of times yet the graph here shows them as being 4x the strongest user max, and most glaringly SSJ God is supposed to be a power level millions of times above SSJ3 which is where the graph goes completely to shit and stays that way till the end
@@yomama629 Yes, but those multipliers never made any damn sense...You're telling me base form to SS1 is MASSIVE, but SS1 to SS2 was barely anything in comparison...? That SS1 shits on base wayyyy more than SS3 shits on SS1?? That's just nonsensical..
@@jsmithers. you're thinking it the wrong way. So if ss1 is 50x base, and ss2 is 2x ss1 and ss3 is 4x ss2. Use numbers. Let's say base was 100. Then ss1 is 5000, ss2 is 10000 and ss3 is 40000. The gap between 10000 and 5000 is MUCH bigger than the gap between 5000 and 100. And the same with 40000 and 10000
Part of this is because power levels were introduced far too high and the villains and SSJ multipliers were totally insane. Raditz should have been introduced with a power level of around 10 and the series goes from there. Using that, we'd be in the hundreds of billions-trillions at this point, which is a far more quantifiable number than 'something with a lot of zeroes'. Who really knows just how strong they are now considering SSG is apparently a several million times multiplier and SSB is 50x more than that. The one thing we can all agree on is that power-scaling has gone to total shit with Super. Apparently now some Saiyan teenagers have levels high enough to fight a literal god.
Yamcha kept getting more powerful, and that’s a testament to how good of a warrior he was, just wasn’t in fights that often. He’s important to Dragon Ball but not in the frontline.
He is the strongest regular human to ever exist! Tien is a Cyclops, and krillin has no nose. Master Roshi has an extended lifespan becauase of a Phoenix or something.
Thanks! Piccolo walks around at his full power level more or less, so he stacks up pretty well against non-transformed Saiyans. (At least until DB Super...)
I love the concept of the video...but the way it's done is extremely disorienting and hard to track. Some suggestions: 1) Don't make a transformation act like an entirely new character where one drops down and another rises. Just have the picture change and let the bar stay in place where it is. 2) Don't have power levels go down when someone gets hurt. Just show their current max power. Just like the transformations, it makes everything WAY too spastic to keep track of. 3) When someone dies or otherwise would be completely removed from the ranking, just have them fade out and the one below take their place. Same reason as other suggestions: It will make it easier to keep track of. The main problem is that there is just too much motion to keep track of and the whole video leaves you frustrated because the information is gone before you can fully process it. It's a really good idea though. I have always wondered how the power levels stacked up. Gonna give you a sub. Can't wait for an updated version of this video!
I disagree, the tracking was perfect and easy to follow. This was, logically, the best way to present the info. If you were disoriented, maybe you should get an eye test done/drink more water or something 💦
I love how the stats showing up that piccolo had a incredible high base power. Imagine him to fuse with more nameks or get even a another transformation form
Hard to tell what the tournament of power levels compare to the gods. Ssg Goku was said to use 70-80% of beerus( can’t remember which number they used). Beerus was said to never have master ultra instinct. Also jiren was said to be a mortal stronger than the god of destruction in his universe. I haven’t gone deep into the manga yet but I believe they say Bellmod is the third strongest god of destruction. Mr. Popo is definitely correct though.
@@VarietySeth Granted I haven't read all of the manga, but it's never really stated whether Belmod is stronger than Beerus. It's implied that he was being sneaky so he could fight and beat a worn out Beerus, but that 1v1 Beerus is one of, if not the strongest GoD. Jiren is stated to be stronger than his GoD. By how much is unknown. Jiren's strength relative to other GoDs is never clarified. GoD Toppo was the weakest of the GoDs, as he was still in training. MUI Goku is stronger than Jiren, and by extension Belmod. He is also probably stronger than some of the GoDs, possibly including Beerus, since Beerus never mastered Ultra Instinct. It's also implied that Beerus' dream of a 'Super Saiyan God' was actually Beerus dreaming about Ultra Instinct Goku. It doesn't make much sense when they make this implication, but based off Beerus' excited and proud reaction, it seems a safe bet. Whis is also proud. Surprised you didn't add Broly to the list, but I'm in the camp that Broly was not quite as strong as Jiren's full power. Gogeta Blue may or may not be stronger than Jiren though, because he dominates Broly as soon as he starts fighting serious in those last two minutes. Broly does no damage to him.
@@VarietySeth I thought it was Quitela whom Beerus lost an arm wrestling contest too? They were the last two 'standing' when Grand Priest called off the battle, with Belmod faking his injuries. Quitela mentions this in Super also and stands up to Beerus, though personally I think Beerus is still stronger overall. Quitela is a trickster and there's reason enough to believe that his arm wrestling victory might not be wholly honest. And even then, that's just arm-wrestling, not ki attacks or speed or martial arts skill. But Belmod being an upper tier GoD is fair. =)
This puts a new perspective on Power Level videos, it's a unique transition from DB to DBS and I like it. One nitpick though...The Power Levels for Super seem way to low.
I feel like Jiren only being less than 3x stronger than Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku is a huge underestimate. In reality at this point everyone should be hundreds of times stronger than Buu Saga SSJ Vegito. One thing I will give this power scale however is Beerus being placed considerably above MUI Goku. Now that the GoD title has been severely depreciated, everyone underestimates Beerus' full potential. We've never seen him use his full power and for good reason. Although, Vados being stronger than Whis is an error. Vados did train Whis but Whis is indeed stronger. Either way, both are orders of magnitude above the GoD.
Cryoraptor pretty sure Vados directly told us that she’s stronger so ig u most be using headcanon which we can also see by the fact that u think that Beerus full power is a secret. Whis, the same guy who knows him for over 100 million years said that Belmod is stronger than Beerus before they went to the ToP stage so that’s outta the way too. Also vegito is nothing compared to BoG god goku already it’s an understatement to say that they’re only 100 times stronger than vegito when u6 arc cabba is infinities above him
tAsTe DiVinE fUry Whis said it to embarrass beerus. In the manga, beerus fought all the GoD at once and beat them technically. After whis said that, Beerus said that it was a simple arm wrestling match that beerus lost. Arm wrestling obviously doesn’t indicate how strong you are with fighting, especially in anime.
There are a lotta weird things going on with the power levels going down especially in the DBZ times. Having something like a temporary boost extended from the bar itself on the graph to show that it's a boost and not the base going up would probably clear some confusion. I only figured the trick out because I know almost the entire multi series by heart but I guarantee 90% of people are missing the fact that those extended powers are from boosts specifically.
I'm impressed with how much Yamcha is in the top 10. He, Tien and Krillin are definitely the top 3 most powerful humans. Krillin taking the top spot of course. Between him and Tien, couldn't say whose the more skilled fighter.
There's so much in the series to keep track of. This is a very impressive video all things considered. Nobody's going to agree on power levels..... like, EVER... but this did a solid job and was entertaining (I agree with the consensus that two second per episode is a better pace.) If I were to call anything out, it seems weird that Krillin is stronger than (base) Goten for most of the series. Other than that, seems logical with the way things play out in the show.
Think the issue with the last one wasn't so much the speed, just that when an entry is added or removed from view, it enters or leaves from the bottom of the screen with everything else reshuffling to a new position. Transformations from one character to another (e.g. 1:02) are particularly egregious because two people have to move across the screen suddenly while the top of the list repositions. It'd be more elegant if things could be inserted or removed from the side instead, and transforming characters just have their images updated without needing whole new entries. Not sure how customizable the software behind this is though.
Thanks for the feedback. The software does not allow for changing the bar behavior like that unfortunately. Ideally I would not have the bars leave the plot at all for transformations--the bars and images themselves would transform in place--but in the software each row in the data is associated with one bar and one image in the plot so you can't change things on the fly like that. I am looking into writing custom plotting functions with Javascript/d3.js to allow for more flexibility, but given that I am still a novice with JavaScript I wouldn't expect to be able to do something like that for a while.
I love this! Things I noticed: During the Cell saga, it becomes obvious that Gohan has the most latent power. As the power levels steadily increase, his increases faster than anybodys. This holds true through most of DBS as well. Piccolo tends to be the strongest in base form... by quite a long shot... for a long time. If Piccolo had a transformation similar to SSJ, he'd be the world's greatest warrior. Near the end of the Buu saga, Vegeta as SSJ has a power level of 280M. However, when he "powers down", he retains all that power even in his base form. Gohan, even when not actively training, remains at least the 5th strongest fighter on Earth for most of the timeline. (I'm not including Majin Buu because he never actually fights for Earth) It's not until after Resurrection F that Goku and Vegeta are officially the strongest warriors on the planet in their base forms. My guess is true god-level power begins at 50B, since at 90B Toppo has God-of-Destruction-level power, and Hit has a max power level of 48B. All the fighters who out-powered Hit could be considered at or near god-level power (in my opinion). Thanks for this vid! It's been a long time since I put some serious thought into every character's power levels. Plus I'm glad this remaster happened, because you had Yamcha stronger than Krillin for a while on the last video, and it made no sense to me lol
I also realized something, it's bullshit, gokus base is at 5bil? So ssj goku is 250 bil cause offical ssj multipliers. thats fucking bullshit this is bullshit, the other characters have to be way stronger for this to be right
Hey everyone. If you liked this video, I just uploaded a new Goku Power Level Progression Video that might interest you! czcams.com/video/YeI9lFBzQak/video.html
lol. I didn't know people even cared about this anymore sense it's nonsense now since the Freezer namek saga. It would of been nice if they would of not done this shit with Gods or SSGSS b.s. It ruined everything. Super Saiyan 1,2,3, was the route to go and it could've lasted around the time Super was in the middle of the tournament until they fought Jiren and went Blue both Vegeta and Crackrock. They should've merged and became Krackageats.
On the old version I got ticked off that I thought 1st form friezas power level was 150,000. In dragon ball raging blast 2 a voice line from him literally says his power is 530,000. Thank god you corrected it
The problem with this scaling is that it's so far off, for example, in DBS episode 18 (in the video), goku is at a power level of 1.3 billion, SSJ is a multiplier of 50, which would make his power level 65 billion, AKA stronger than Hit, Toppo, a non-powered up Jiren, goku black at his peak, merged zamasu. That's just base SSJ, SSJ2 would be 130 billion, or the same as jiren at max power, and his SSJ3 form would be stronger than his mastered ultra instinct, sitting in the 520 Billion range aka stronger than champa.
The power levels are extremely low balled, even during Cell Saga. Even at Cell Saga they should reach trillion at least, and in Buu Saga the power levels being below that is just expremely wrong. Then in DBS your power levels pretty much doesn't increase, and the forms multiplier are too much low balled. The mechanic of the video is good, but the numbers are extremely low balled.
I agree that the power levels are extremely low-balled,but i think Cell games power level cap would be in the billions,definitely not in the trillions. Trillions and beyond starts at end of buu/Beginning of DBS for sure
During the Cell Games Piccolo was stronger than 16 it was noted by both Trunks and Goku that he became considerably more powerful after his time chamber training. He was also the only non-saiyan to put up any real resistance to the Cell juniors.
Dang! I I checked the data file and it looks like when I was redoing some images android 19's image from the original video was overwritten with android 17's new image. I guess I'll call it an Easter egg... Good eye.
Beerus stated or the clown guy i dont remember that jiren is stronger than a god of destruction (so goku is at this point) so how is jiren like 5 times weaker than that fat cat? Makes no sense really. Jiren and goku should between beerus and whis imo.
This was really cool. For a future video, it might help to leave some of the more frequent characters in the top few slots and see how their power level is growing over time. It became a little difficult to gauge what was happening when some characters popped up in first place for a second and then disappeared.
Yeah, I remember the fan concessus in the early 2000s, i.e. Goku being 300,000 to x50 SSJ as 15,000,000, to kid Buu being 500,000,000, etc. This assumed that SS Goku being 150,000,000 in the official guide was a typo. Don' remember why we all thought that. But your reasoning about base forms makes more sense.
In manga it is stated beerus is still training to master it, but in situation like this prob he would go mui as well, caus goku as well cant go in ui state
Well what if mid fight he goes mui like he almost did in Broly, beerus would still have omen not mui but really it depends on time. Rn Goku can go omen or mui ( cant remember) in the manga
I don't know how it works for "DBS garbage" but for DBZ you've done a great job. Espacially with Buu Saga where Mystic Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku and Buuhan is stronger than Kid Buu. Some people still don't believe that this is right :P
@@wrathspecter6100 It's shame that your parents didn't learn to throw the garbage away before it begin to smell really bad... now we have to deal with stinky garbage on YT...
The rescaling is the most insane thing. But srsly, the power levels problem people already complained about back with GT has escalated to an insane level. Who knows where this will go. I can't imagine the Super manga stopping before Goku and Vegeta are either finally dead or unbeatable in the multiverse.
Zeno’s the illegitimate offspring of Mr. Popo so it’s makes sense that he was made the god of the dragon ball multiverse. He has his father’s eyes. Of course the mother? Possibly that Jynx from back in the day...
Dat Nguyen funny how this is way too low...u really think the gods are barely 100 times stronger than freeza?☠️ and im Talking about namek saga freeza 😭😭 it’s just too low
Really liked this video, but I must pick. I think Kami's PL is too high, Goku and Piccolo at the start of DBZ were barely over 400, where 5 years before that at the end of DB they were more powerful than Kami. I think Kami should be in the low 300's
He doesn't, he instead just has Super Saiyan as 5x boost, even though that would make Goku's power as Super Saiyan on Namek weaker than 15% Freeza, because some people don't really care that much about logic.
Hey everybody. I recently made a new version of this plot concept showing max power levels over time: czcams.com/video/-6mdtSQ-6vU/video.html
This version reduces the amount of bar movement quite a bit since power levels only increase. I also made it so that transformations occur in-place, so you don't have bars dropping off and new bars coming in for each new transformation.
goku's power levels went from barely moon level and below to multiverse level
I prefer this . In the other i don't apear in DBS Episodes.
Interviewers: how did you get your powers?
Saitama: I lost hair
Goku: I grew hair
All might: I ate hair
Midoriya ate all mights hair
@@DestructiveD how do you think All Might got his power?
thats funny cuz gokus one could either be him growing hair in ssj3 or ssj4 or he dyed his hair
@@rya3190He ate Nana's hair (oh my)
Lol! I Guess the best Option is always gonna be Growing Hair 🤭🤭🤭the more Monkey, the More Power!🤣😅
I’m guessing Mr.Satan is so strong you can’t even see him?
Monaka can kick his and Gokus ass easily
Monaka is not strong,just beerus trick
@@shrek3454 it was a joke
@@shrek3454 U know that was joke right?
True
Grand Priest: 10 trillion
Zen-oh: 1 quadrillion
SSB Gogeta with mastered Ultra Instinct: Yes.
What?
FACTS!!!
Such a great comment. You are a God
Vegito is stronger but yes😂😂
@@linhyouka220 i mean its actually debatable now since they both now have the same multiplier
A valiant effort considering the fact that Akira Toriyama doesn’t even know what’s going on any more
lmao truth
And it's like years you don't see a single dragon ball that is what give the name to the whole shit
They have list it after two kids turned SSJ at the age of 5...
@@faustomadebr they turned it at 5?
@@faustomadebr goten was 3 when he first turn super saiyan
Stay for the bit at the very end to see who is TRULY the most powerful...
I was just going to say that about that on his last video XD
Amazing
Pecking order.
Wrong Vegito is the strongest being in dbs
In the order:
1:Vegito
2:Goku mmi
3:Jiren
Well...
This is so innacurate, we all know that yamcha spared zeno and gave him his permission to be the omni king
this is true, yamcha in the true powerful demiking
Zeno is yamcha and monakas kid
@@kerabz8264 Mr.Satan is their granddad
Stop with this dead yamcha meme we all know the farmer is the strongest
@@the-jz8yx He Spared raditz
Never realised that for most of the original piccolo was almost always stronger than goku without supersayan
cole miller that's why whis always trained goku and vegeta in their base form and never gived a shit about ssjb or any transformation
IndigoZ0 well it wouldn’t even make a difference if they did lol. They’re way to weak in their base forms anyway
tAsTe DiVinE fUry They are not weak in their base form, base Goku is currently way stronger then he was as a Super Saiyan God for the first time.
IndigoZ0 not true. in the manga whis even said that he never restricted them from using their super saiyans. Goku and vegeta just decided not to for some reason
Now I know why Piccolo never got a Super/Legendary Namekian powerup: He'd wipe the floor with everyone if it was on a similar level to Super Saiyan's multiplier. I still think he should get a God form though, he's been irrelevant for too long. It's time for either him or Gohan to kick someone's arse way harder than Goku or Vegeta could have again.
Ayy my guy piccolo topped the charts at least twice ✊🏽
not even sure how
That last part with Mr.POPO was epic. He is the dark lord. hahahaha 😂
Ravenne Hiro XV stop! What is the first rule of popos training
*don’t talk about Popo’s training. Don’t talk about Popo’s training..*
@@AzuresWorld_ why
*this is all coming together*
Literally
Imagine lil Goten in his base form absolutely obliterating Frieza in his 100 percent form from DBZ
At 7
Imagine him killing vegeta and goku if they fused together turned super saiyan in frieza sega
@@James-cs2dz no he wouldn't be able 2 theyd woop em
@@James-cs2dz fusion doesnt combind power it multiplies it
@@chadhan4467 yeah which means they turn stronger. And I don't think they would if he was in dragon ball super when hes 13. His base power is like 25m
The power level shouldn’t go down it should only show each characters current power level cap
SkiddyBig man2 THANK YOUUUUUUUUU!!!
Thanks for the feedback. I wanted to show the story of battles which involves power levels going up and down, but that is a good idea to reduce confusion that I will keep in mind for the future.
DataDaft the next video you do on the power levels keep the power caps of each character and don’t make the transformations different characters make them just increase that current characters power cap
@@skiddybigman2636 Power caps would be simple enough--it would actually make things a lot easier--but the transformation thing is hard because the software I used does not allow for transforming a bar to have a different image or color on the fly. It would require either writing custom software or doing a ton of editing (i.e. shooting a different video for every single transform and editing them all together). But if I were to try to improve this even further I would have to do something like that. Perhaps a long-term project. =)
DataDaft alright sounds like a plan I just want a power cap video but it’s like this one the numbers just don’t go down
Gotta give a hand for Tien man. Really been staying up there.
Ocean Man this scaling wrong Toriyama confirmed Krillin is the strongest earthling.
pp lebronjames I know and never said he was stronger than Krillin. Back in the old Dbz sagas there was a lot of jumping between back and forth with Tien and Krillin. But yeah in Super, Krillin is the strongest human.
pp lebronjames Oh and sorry for not adding this, but yes I agree the power scaling is a bit far fetched.
Also Tien is a triclops, so Krillin is the strongest human either way
The numbers could be debated for days but the graph is mostly represented correctly from what the anime at least plays out.
A lot wrong with the numbers and the graph imo, SSJ is a 50x base multiplier but it's shown to be 3 to 4 times max on here, SSJ3 is 4x SSJ2 but it's represented as 2x here, the fusions are said to be the powers of both users added together then multiplied tens of times yet the graph here shows them as being 4x the strongest user max, and most glaringly SSJ God is supposed to be a power level millions of times above SSJ3 which is where the graph goes completely to shit and stays that way till the end
@@yomama629 Yes, but those multipliers never made any damn sense...You're telling me base form to SS1 is MASSIVE, but SS1 to SS2 was barely anything in comparison...? That SS1 shits on base wayyyy more than SS3 shits on SS1?? That's just nonsensical..
@@jsmithers. you're thinking it the wrong way. So if ss1 is 50x base, and ss2 is 2x ss1 and ss3 is 4x ss2. Use numbers. Let's say base was 100. Then ss1 is 5000, ss2 is 10000 and ss3 is 40000. The gap between 10000 and 5000 is MUCH bigger than the gap between 5000 and 100. And the same with 40000 and 10000
John Smith u blown in from stupid town?
Part of this is because power levels were introduced far too high and the villains and SSJ multipliers were totally insane. Raditz should have been introduced with a power level of around 10 and the series goes from there. Using that, we'd be in the hundreds of billions-trillions at this point, which is a far more quantifiable number than 'something with a lot of zeroes'. Who really knows just how strong they are now considering SSG is apparently a several million times multiplier and SSB is 50x more than that.
The one thing we can all agree on is that power-scaling has gone to total shit with Super. Apparently now some Saiyan teenagers have levels high enough to fight a literal god.
I’ve never had to pause a CZcams video so many times 😂
Yamcha kept getting more powerful, and that’s a testament to how good of a warrior he was, just wasn’t in fights that often. He’s important to Dragon Ball but not in the frontline.
He is the strongest regular human to ever exist! Tien is a Cyclops, and krillin has no nose. Master Roshi has an extended lifespan becauase of a Phoenix or something.
ScotchTapeWorm77 Actually, Krillin is stronger than Yamcha.
Sorry but theres no defending yamcha from that saibamen death.
@@DandySenpie bruh
@@scotchtapeworm3755 yup
How has Piccolo consistency stayed in the top percentage for most of the show? That’s crazy. Well done video
Thanks! Piccolo walks around at his full power level more or less, so he stacks up pretty well against non-transformed Saiyans. (At least until DB Super...)
@@DataDaft Well now at the release of DBS: SH you gotta make a new vid
*UI Goku: ALRIGHT I'M COMING OUT*
*0,2 Seconds later*
*UI Goku: aight brb*
lol
UI Goku is coming out, and we all support him fully
@@bentonic4998 yes
fam you forgot Universe 7's, according to Lord Beerus, strongest mortal Monaka who in his 1st fight in the show 1 shotted Hit.
Yo in the very beginning, Gohan's power lvl spiked when he fucked up raditz
Because that actually happened
@@fanpan3368 yea.. it did lmfao
😂
The TFS Mr. Popo reference was golden.
Good thing you remembered the pecking order. 😜
Mr Satan: *am i a joke to you!?*
Pilaf: silence, bitch!
Laughs in Chiaotzu who never saw the light of day after Saiyan saga
Its crazy how much their power levels changed from DBZ to DBS
Imagine this, Goku had a power level of 10 when Bulma stumbled across him. Now look at him.
Manchurian Manchild Look at us, who would’ve thought
@@mvlware1316 Not me
@@VarietySeth I agree but still more accurate than last time
@@VarietySeth If we disregard questionable things like base Goku being as strong as SSG Goku from BoG then I don't see Goku reaching the quadrillions.
6:08 i can hear Gohan Screaming.
I love the concept of the video...but the way it's done is extremely disorienting and hard to track. Some suggestions: 1) Don't make a transformation act like an entirely new character where one drops down and another rises. Just have the picture change and let the bar stay in place where it is. 2) Don't have power levels go down when someone gets hurt. Just show their current max power. Just like the transformations, it makes everything WAY too spastic to keep track of. 3) When someone dies or otherwise would be completely removed from the ranking, just have them fade out and the one below take their place. Same reason as other suggestions: It will make it easier to keep track of.
The main problem is that there is just too much motion to keep track of and the whole video leaves you frustrated because the information is gone before you can fully process it. It's a really good idea though. I have always wondered how the power levels stacked up. Gonna give you a sub. Can't wait for an updated version of this video!
I only agree with the first one with the transformation... The other ones aren't needed
I disagree, the tracking was perfect and easy to follow. This was, logically, the best way to present the info. If you were disoriented, maybe you should get an eye test done/drink more water or something 💦
@@WilfredoNelson is this a Diss or just an advice
I think he said the software doesn't allow him to easily change an existing bar (like name/color), so that makes it harder.
"And this is to go even further beyond"
Wow. Kinda shows that the saiyan characters heavily relied on transformations to counter most enemy bases. Neat
I love how the stats showing up that piccolo had a incredible high base power. Imagine him to fuse with more nameks or get even a another transformation form
Hard to tell what the tournament of power levels compare to the gods. Ssg Goku was said to use 70-80% of beerus( can’t remember which number they used). Beerus was said to never have master ultra instinct. Also jiren was said to be a mortal stronger than the god of destruction in his universe. I haven’t gone deep into the manga yet but I believe they say Bellmod is the third strongest god of destruction. Mr. Popo is definitely correct though.
70% was in the movie, they later changed it to 10% in DBS
Maher Farah hmmm I’ll have to rewatch it I don’t remember that.
Adam Chaney pretty sure Beerus can use ultra instinct tho, just not quite mastered
@@VarietySeth Granted I haven't read all of the manga, but it's never really stated whether Belmod is stronger than Beerus. It's implied that he was being sneaky so he could fight and beat a worn out Beerus, but that 1v1 Beerus is one of, if not the strongest GoD.
Jiren is stated to be stronger than his GoD. By how much is unknown. Jiren's strength relative to other GoDs is never clarified.
GoD Toppo was the weakest of the GoDs, as he was still in training.
MUI Goku is stronger than Jiren, and by extension Belmod. He is also probably stronger than some of the GoDs, possibly including Beerus, since Beerus never mastered Ultra Instinct.
It's also implied that Beerus' dream of a 'Super Saiyan God' was actually Beerus dreaming about Ultra Instinct Goku. It doesn't make much sense when they make this implication, but based off Beerus' excited and proud reaction, it seems a safe bet. Whis is also proud.
Surprised you didn't add Broly to the list, but I'm in the camp that Broly was not quite as strong as Jiren's full power. Gogeta Blue may or may not be stronger than Jiren though, because he dominates Broly as soon as he starts fighting serious in those last two minutes. Broly does no damage to him.
@@VarietySeth I thought it was Quitela whom Beerus lost an arm wrestling contest too? They were the last two 'standing' when Grand Priest called off the battle, with Belmod faking his injuries.
Quitela mentions this in Super also and stands up to Beerus, though personally I think Beerus is still stronger overall. Quitela is a trickster and there's reason enough to believe that his arm wrestling victory might not be wholly honest. And even then, that's just arm-wrestling, not ki attacks or speed or martial arts skill.
But Belmod being an upper tier GoD is fair. =)
This puts a new perspective on Power Level videos, it's a unique transition from DB to DBS and I like it. One nitpick though...The Power Levels for Super seem way to low.
DrJoNeZ 97 the gap between beerus and whis is prolly much higher
DrJoNeZ 97 all power lvls are too low here ☠️☠️
I feel like Jiren only being less than 3x stronger than Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku is a huge underestimate. In reality at this point everyone should be hundreds of times stronger than Buu Saga SSJ Vegito.
One thing I will give this power scale however is Beerus being placed considerably above MUI Goku. Now that the GoD title has been severely depreciated, everyone underestimates Beerus' full potential. We've never seen him use his full power and for good reason.
Although, Vados being stronger than Whis is an error. Vados did train Whis but Whis is indeed stronger. Either way, both are orders of magnitude above the GoD.
Cryoraptor pretty sure Vados directly told us that she’s stronger so ig u most be using headcanon which we can also see by the fact that u think that Beerus full power is a secret. Whis, the same guy who knows him for over 100 million years said that Belmod is stronger than Beerus before they went to the ToP stage so that’s outta the way too. Also vegito is nothing compared to BoG god goku already it’s an understatement to say that they’re only 100 times stronger than vegito when u6 arc cabba is infinities above him
tAsTe DiVinE fUry Whis said it to embarrass beerus. In the manga, beerus fought all the GoD at once and beat them technically. After whis said that, Beerus said that it was a simple arm wrestling match that beerus lost. Arm wrestling obviously doesn’t indicate how strong you are with fighting, especially in anime.
Android “19” is 17 you labeled it 19 with 17 for a pic
Saw it. But I prefer looking at 17 than the pilsbury dough boy tbh
Ayy my guy Trunks making it into the top 10 (excluding deities) 🙌🏽
There are a lotta weird things going on with the power levels going down especially in the DBZ times. Having something like a temporary boost extended from the bar itself on the graph to show that it's a boost and not the base going up would probably clear some confusion. I only figured the trick out because I know almost the entire multi series by heart but I guarantee 90% of people are missing the fact that those extended powers are from boosts specifically.
No i got it and ut's pretty clear
I'm impressed with how much Yamcha is in the top 10. He, Tien and Krillin are definitely the top 3 most powerful humans. Krillin taking the top spot of course. Between him and Tien, couldn't say whose the more skilled fighter.
It’s always funny to remember that before everything went apeshit, Chichi wasn’t even that far behind Goku and the other Turtle boys
I see Arale and Mr.Satan are too OP to be placed on this list. I understand.
There's so much in the series to keep track of. This is a very impressive video all things considered. Nobody's going to agree on power levels..... like, EVER... but this did a solid job and was entertaining (I agree with the consensus that two second per episode is a better pace.)
If I were to call anything out, it seems weird that Krillin is stronger than (base) Goten for most of the series. Other than that, seems logical with the way things play out in the show.
People in db be like:Mr. Satan is too high,thats why we can't see him😏
Crazy to think killin in the namek saga could of beat vegeta when he first showed up to earth.
It matters up to generation
Like Before SSJ was a myth a legend now its a child's play
Power levels has to do something with generations
Because he’s power was unlock by the grand elder
when making these, keep in mind, ssj 1 is x50 ssj2 is x100 ssj 3 is x400 and ssj3
Think the issue with the last one wasn't so much the speed, just that when an entry is added or removed from view, it enters or leaves from the bottom of the screen with everything else reshuffling to a new position. Transformations from one character to another (e.g. 1:02) are particularly egregious because two people have to move across the screen suddenly while the top of the list repositions. It'd be more elegant if things could be inserted or removed from the side instead, and transforming characters just have their images updated without needing whole new entries. Not sure how customizable the software behind this is though.
Exactly this
Thanks for the feedback. The software does not allow for changing the bar behavior like that unfortunately. Ideally I would not have the bars leave the plot at all for transformations--the bars and images themselves would transform in place--but in the software each row in the data is associated with one bar and one image in the plot so you can't change things on the fly like that. I am looking into writing custom plotting functions with Javascript/d3.js to allow for more flexibility, but given that I am still a novice with JavaScript I wouldn't expect to be able to do something like that for a while.
Dragon Ball : Ok
Dragon Ball Z : Ok
Dragon Ball Super: Ok
Dragon ball GT: Get that shit off of me.
I love this! Things I noticed:
During the Cell saga, it becomes obvious that Gohan has the most latent power. As the power levels steadily increase, his increases faster than anybodys. This holds true through most of DBS as well.
Piccolo tends to be the strongest in base form... by quite a long shot... for a long time. If Piccolo had a transformation similar to SSJ, he'd be the world's greatest warrior.
Near the end of the Buu saga, Vegeta as SSJ has a power level of 280M. However, when he "powers down", he retains all that power even in his base form.
Gohan, even when not actively training, remains at least the 5th strongest fighter on Earth for most of the timeline. (I'm not including Majin Buu because he never actually fights for Earth)
It's not until after Resurrection F that Goku and Vegeta are officially the strongest warriors on the planet in their base forms.
My guess is true god-level power begins at 50B, since at 90B Toppo has God-of-Destruction-level power, and Hit has a max power level of 48B. All the fighters who out-powered Hit could be considered at or near god-level power (in my opinion).
Thanks for this vid! It's been a long time since I put some serious thought into every character's power levels. Plus I'm glad this remaster happened, because you had Yamcha stronger than Krillin for a while on the last video, and it made no sense to me lol
I also realized something, it's bullshit, gokus base is at 5bil? So ssj goku is 250 bil cause offical ssj multipliers. thats fucking bullshit this is bullshit, the other characters have to be way stronger for this to be right
only reason why super power levels are low are because power levels arent linear. A difference of 1B and 1.1B could be HUGE.
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Datadaft:mr.popo vs Zeno
Mr.popo is win
Me:what what ar you tolcking abour
I thought jiren was supposed to be stronger than a god of destruction
lol. I didn't know people even cared about this anymore sense it's nonsense now since the Freezer namek saga. It would of been nice if they would of not done this shit with Gods or SSGSS b.s. It ruined everything. Super Saiyan 1,2,3, was the route to go and it could've lasted around the time Super was in the middle of the tournament until they fought Jiren and went Blue both Vegeta and Crackrock. They should've merged and became Krackageats.
all is wrong
ey, how is champa stronget than mui goku
Seeing the end of the chart I can say 1 thing.
I am finally sated.
This is how the power levels truly are and from this point, they will never change.
I basically watched the series in this video.
On the old version I got ticked off that I thought 1st form friezas power level was 150,000. In dragon ball raging blast 2 a voice line from him literally says his power is 530,000. Thank god you corrected it
Who else was waiting for Goku to pass 9000 so they could say the line in their head?
WOAH I SAID THAT IN MY MIND U R MIND READER
HIS STRENGTH ITS OVER 9000
Its funny that that line is so famous but in the sub it says 8,000 instead lol
Narsterstar bc it’s supposed to be 8,000
9,000 was a mistranslation
I can agree that power scaling but zeno and daichincan huh what !!!
They don't fight
*Nappa: Vegeta what does the scouter says about his power level?*
*Vegeta: It's over 9000!!!*
It's... 1,006.
@@divinity8950 LOL.
The problem with this scaling is that it's so far off, for example, in DBS episode 18 (in the video), goku is at a power level of 1.3 billion, SSJ is a multiplier of 50, which would make his power level 65 billion, AKA stronger than Hit, Toppo, a non-powered up Jiren, goku black at his peak, merged zamasu. That's just base SSJ, SSJ2 would be 130 billion, or the same as jiren at max power, and his SSJ3 form would be stronger than his mastered ultra instinct, sitting in the 520 Billion range aka stronger than champa.
Dan Brown vegeta said it best in abbriged power levels are bull
The power levels are extremely low balled, even during Cell Saga. Even at Cell Saga they should reach trillion at least, and in Buu Saga the power levels being below that is just expremely wrong. Then in DBS your power levels pretty much doesn't increase, and the forms multiplier are too much low balled. The mechanic of the video is good, but the numbers are extremely low balled.
I agree that the power levels are extremely low-balled,but i think Cell games power level cap would be in the billions,definitely not in the trillions. Trillions and beyond starts at end of buu/Beginning of DBS for sure
MarcoXV3 nah trillions for cell is honestly right. Everyone can one shot freeza there’s no way they are below 100 times stronger than him🥱
During the Cell Games Piccolo was stronger than 16 it was noted by both Trunks and Goku that he became considerably more powerful after his time chamber training. He was also the only non-saiyan to put up any real resistance to the Cell juniors.
Great vid
Mr. PoPo shall always be a mystery
4:15 did I just saw android 17 picture for android 19 ???
Dang! I I checked the data file and it looks like when I was redoing some images android 19's image from the original video was overwritten with android 17's new image. I guess I'll call it an Easter egg... Good eye.
Beerus stated or the clown guy i dont remember that jiren is stronger than a god of destruction (so goku is at this point) so how is jiren like 5 times weaker than that fat cat? Makes no sense really. Jiren and goku should between beerus and whis imo.
well、big difference between anime and manga
黄八雲 There’s also the fact that power levels are nothing but jokes.
@@shibathesamurai9893 this
Konton that is not，untrue
Uchiha Madara jiren is also 100 times stronger than namek freeza but hey let’s just take this seriously ☠️
This one is more accurate however 17 and 18 have the same powerr but again great video.
I just found a Little flaw... you put Android 17's picture instead of Android 19.
Good catch.
Okay, the sudden change of song that goes super loud fucked me up. Hahahah good video though!
Apologies. That was probably a track I had to swap in due to a copyright claim blocking the original track.
This was really cool. For a future video, it might help to leave some of the more frequent characters in the top few slots and see how their power level is growing over time. It became a little difficult to gauge what was happening when some characters popped up in first place for a second and then disappeared.
The thing I always wondered about in the Buu saga is what if Mystic Gohan went SS2?
Mystic gohan is gohans full potential so going ssj just waste stamina.
Please make one of one piece
It's a Super Saiyan bargain sale!
I love Dragon Ball :D
Yeah, I remember the fan concessus in the early 2000s, i.e. Goku being 300,000 to x50 SSJ as 15,000,000, to kid Buu being 500,000,000, etc. This assumed that SS Goku being 150,000,000 in the official guide was a typo. Don' remember why we all thought that.
But your reasoning about base forms makes more sense.
How his Mui goku weaker than beerus.he doesn’t even have it. In manga he has omen and in the anime he doesn’t have it at all 🤷🏾
In manga it is stated beerus is still training to master it, but in situation like this prob he would go mui as well, caus goku as well cant go in ui state
Well what if mid fight he goes mui like he almost did in Broly, beerus would still have omen not mui but really it depends on time. Rn Goku can go omen or mui ( cant remember) in the manga
4:18 it says Android 19 but there's a picture of Android 17
Where is Bulma?
Yamcha started as Goku's rival and ends as his worshipper. Fucking Development.
Nice
I don't know how it works for "DBS garbage" but for DBZ you've done a great job. Espacially with Buu Saga where Mystic Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku and Buuhan is stronger than Kid Buu. Some people still don't believe that this is right :P
Ah the garbage opinion of the garbage power scale
@@wrathspecter6100 It's shame that your parents didn't learn to throw the garbage away before it begin to smell really bad... now we have to deal with stinky garbage on YT...
14:53 *M R P O P O : ITS OVER ONE GOOGOLPLEX
Farmer with shotgun : You number it wrong fool
The time will come soon when goku will be the strongest of all in DBZ
Impossible now that Zeno is here if it was just grand priest then maybe
@@erentekin2416 bro it will happen one day just wait for it...
The strongest should be farmer with a gun, he is superior in every way
The tournament commentator ist the only one who could challenge him
5:06 WTF happened in DBZ episode 152?! Someone fill me in, i forgot; wat in the hell gave Tien that much power?!!!!
That was when he was trying to keep cell from reaching his perfect for by using his Neo Tri-Beam or Shin Kikōhō attack repeatedly
@@Narsterstar I'm watching this episode now. Tien is trying to keep Cell to avoid catching C-16 and C-18 and they can escape.
The rescaling is the most insane thing. But srsly, the power levels problem people already complained about back with GT has escalated to an insane level. Who knows where this will go. I can't imagine the Super manga stopping before Goku and Vegeta are either finally dead or unbeatable in the multiverse.
Do naruto
You are wrong about zen-Oh he can only make things disappear
Goku mui
12.000.000.000.000.000.000.000
Beerus
10.000.000.000.000.000.000.000
Yes
beerus not that strong
Zeno’s the illegitimate offspring of Mr. Popo so it’s makes sense that he was made the god of the dragon ball multiverse. He has his father’s eyes. Of course the mother? Possibly that Jynx from back in the day...
Gohan is the strongest non fused fighter at the end of the buu arc let that sink in
Mr. Popo at the end is just simply delightful.
Remember when a power level of over 9,000 was considered impressive?
If vegeta goes at 1.000.000.000 power level when he explodes himself, majin buu would be dead
Dear respected youtubers, there is a mistake in this video. MUI goku should be at 5th rank, more stronger than any gods of destruction.
You are overestimating the Gods Of Destruction
Dat Nguyen funny how this is way too low...u really think the gods are barely 100 times stronger than freeza?☠️ and im Talking about namek saga freeza 😭😭 it’s just too low
I think that you should have just kept the official transformations increases but still a good list
Much better version of power scaling than the last one
Jiren is stated to equal or superior to a god of destruction, it means he can fight and beat Beerus.
All these squares make a circle.... All these squares make a circle... -Mr. Popo
ShihTzu Gaming *Abridged
Really liked this video, but I must pick. I think Kami's PL is too high, Goku and Piccolo at the start of DBZ were barely over 400, where 5 years before that at the end of DB they were more powerful than Kami. I think Kami should be in the low 300's
Good job, really. I watch the old one and that was full of mistakes. Anyway the last canon power level is 5 when Trunks arrived on earth
Thanks. Glad you liked it better!
Imagine thinking SSB Vegeta, Rose Goku Black, SS Rage Trunks and Golden Frieza are twice as strong as Beerus...
WHERE'S OUR BOY MONAKA THO?? lol
I wonder where Broly is in this chart...
I’m guessing right below UI?
Broly would probably be beneath vegito blue
And the anime has yet to establish the existance of 'Planet Eater' Moro, hopefully it does so when the time comes.
Hi! Thanks for the awesome video! Can you share the dataset that your created? I would like to play with it as well. :)
I think this guy does not know that ss1 multiplies per 50 base power and then ss2 per 2 ss1, ss3 per 4 ss2...
He doesn't, he instead just has Super Saiyan as 5x boost, even though that would make Goku's power as Super Saiyan on Namek weaker than 15% Freeza, because some people don't really care that much about logic.