The opening shot of Jordan honestly looks like green screen with the soft edge around his entire silhouette. It was somewhat of a relief to see the improvement stopping down makes. As noted, I’m sure the effect will be improved in time. I don’t think filmmakers and camera makers need to worry about this being a threat, but it is interesting tech on a consumer level.
That was exactly my impression; not a great look. I do wonder about camera makers, though; while there will always be people willing to pay for specialist equipment, the continual improvements will keep nibbling further and further into the camera market.
@@rhythmace1 The recent eye tracking then animal eye tracking of professional cameras has been an exciting leg up on phones, though I wonder how long it might take to make there as well. Luckily for camera makers, phones just don't have the same lens reach to capture wildlife at a distance.
I’ve been trying cinematic mode on my 13 Pro Max for a while . I also found experimentally that stopping down a bit can make a major quality improvement, somehow, it’s rare that it’s mentioned in reviews, so I’m happy that it was here. It’s a very simple solution.
As I expected most reviewers won't try to stop down, they are not experimental enough. I always did portrait mode in f6.3 and above, not looking for crazy background blur.
@@unlokia easy for you to say since you obviously don’t have the phone. It’s better then you might think, and most people will never see the defects the reviewers love to point out.
@@unlokia I can't blame you, the amount of artefacts is incredibly high - it's like portrait mode with all those problems but 30 times per second, magnifying the issue.
The cinematic mode at Tony 9 actually looked pretty usable. The 4k is painfully over sharpened and gross. The lack of 7680 fps slow mo makes it a useless tool :)
@@silva_br1 But those modes were kinda useless and limited to literally recording for less than 1/4th of a second. Apple "only" offers you 240fps at 1080p but you can record as long as you want until your storage is full.
Agreed, though the 30fps restriction means I won't be using it much. I'd like to see a "pro mode" that lets you choose strip away that horrible sharpening. Looks like ProRes with Filmic gives a somewhat better result, but from the videos I've seen so far it still has the telltale smartphone video look. I suppose all that crazy computational stuff is probably the only thing that makes the footage halfway useable in the first place though, so maybe there's no benefit in fully disabling it.
Excellent cameras for a smart phone, but I'm still not crazy about the software shallow DOF effect. It looks like some sort of weird haze filter surrounding the subject, instead of an even and smooth falloff. I hope Apple fixes that over time.
Stopping down in cinematic mode is great advice! I’d love to see the ponytail test with those settings. As this review has pushed me closer to upgrading, I may try the test myself!
Pushing the f-stop really is an easy way to make the content look horrible. I kinda hate that in many reviews people are setting it to f2 or whatever and then blame this mode for doing a bad job. It's just like with Portrait Mode. stopping down helps a LOT. That way you still get a clean and good looking blurred background but without the mistakes around the subject all the time.
@@pa4482 Stopping down means increasing the f number, aka, f stop. In a practical sense, raising the f number increases the depth of field and lessens background blur. Here’s some wikipedia action: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number
What's going on with the colors in this review? They're kind of all over the map, but the cinematic mode, in particular, seemed really oversaturated and made Jordan look like a tomato. Was this tweaked in editing, or is it straight outta camera(phone)? It didn't seem like the still images had this problem.
I am not a camera reviewer, I'm not really into photography even as a hobby. I love seeing good work but I myself have no experience in learning what goes into a good shot or any real terminology about cameras or photography. That being said, my iPhone 13 Pro Max has allowed me to take some of the best photos I've ever seen. I filmed a very small wedding reception along with the professional photographer they hired, and with portrait mode, they preferred some of my shots to those shot on a professional Sony camera. They also aren't pros or camera buffs by any stretch, but the fact that a smartphone can keep up with a pro camera + lenses that combined cost 3x or more what my phone did, especially being used by a completely clueless operator, is super impressive in my opinion.
This is exactly why I don't use my expensive fullframe camera these days and photograph more and more with my phone. I learned about story telling and using the oldskool composition techniques. The images from my phone are amazing and people prefer them because the people look more natural (your not "taking a photograph"). Grandma doesn't see the technical imperfections. Yes, I see the quality difference. Even on my phone screen the fullframe camera looks "better", but the convenience takes over when using my iPhone. My wife laughs at me, because she uses her phone for many years now. :)
Wow the skin tones and natural bokeh are good enough for me. The cinematic mode when you stop down a bit looks pretty cool a detail pretty much every other reviewer missed but you guys didn’t. Keep up the good work 👏👏
Jordan's skin tone didn't look good to my eye in Cinematic Mode and still looked a little too red in standard 4K. Skin tones seem to be a challenge for this phone camera.
Great vlog. Just bought the iPhone 13 Pro and loving it. Like you mentioned 99.9% of people aren’t camera reviewers and I believe the quality for social media is amazing. To have the versatility and quality that this phone gives you for photo and video from a smartphone is great. Would recommend this phone big time 📱❤️
7:47 The cinematic mode still looks very fake even at f8...it's not as bad, but the halo effect around the subject is still there and and distracting to watch. However, this is a commendable effort from Apple, and with further improvements on the algorithm/software...it's probably be outstanding when iPhone 14 comes along.
while the cinematic mode aims to produce subject/background separation, the strong hdr is actually doing the opposite.. my brain is so confused! great review though! DPReview is the best!
I wasn't convinced by the skin tones, but also wonder if you could turn the cinematic videos into 3D videos, like you can with the photos with depth maps? (12PM owner so won't be upgrading... it was a nice bump from the 7...)
I also noticed it. For younger people, the skin tone is not very bad when shooting with iPhone, but for older people skin tone is not good at all. I hate my dirty skin tone shot by iPhone.
The skin tones on Jordan both in cinematic and regular video mode look like absolute garbage to me. Both overly saturated and blotchy red and yellow with a tendency towards red. That's a deal breaker if you want to mix the footage with a mirrorless imo
@@AlumarsX I haven't graded Canon footage in a while but from what I've seen, their Rec.709 look tends to handle skin tones pretty well with maybe an overall white balance skew towards magenta (which can be compensated for if you know about it)
That image stabilisation is mindblowing to me! The only thing stopping me from buying one of these and using it is Apple's image processing: I really don't like how they tone map the image, because it makes skin tones look unnaturally flat and bizarre-looking 😬
well Apple kinda has you covered then with the new Photography Styles. You can set up the look you want and the iPhone then will take every shot in those settings.
Yes thank you Clayton! It’s terrible the post processing makes you look dead and dull. Called apple supportt and they had no idea what I was talking about
Coming from the iPhone 7 and so far I’m underwhelmed! I can’t stand the hdr/over sharpened look in a lot of these photos. Apple better give me the option to turn that off ASAP!!!
I got the 13 pro because it’s a decent camera that’s always with you for day-to-day snapshots. I’m not going to carry my big Sony everywhere but when it matters, I’ll always opt for a real camera and good glass.
As an Android guy, I'm extremely impressed with the video quality from the iPhone 13 Pro. I mean, not enough to spend US$999 on one, but Apple has really thrown down the gauntlet. Cinematic mode should automatically be 24 fps. It's insane for it to be 30 fps.
I have a 12promax and I am a blind content creator and I am shooting with my iPhone and my Insta360 OneR. I will upgrade when I have cinematic modes of my iPhone and my 360 camera
My photography has been on pause for a few years now but I still watch each and every one of your videos featuring Chris and Jordan. Almost feels like family at this point 😁
Recently I've been watching a lot of Food Channel cooking videos. While measurebators have been obsessing over bokeh people are making serious money producing "cooking videos." One producer uses eight iPhones, pus one DSLR to shoot the video for his shows. Some iPhones are mounted on Gorilla Pods set on the counters looking into skillets, pots, etc. The shows are shot in one take, with all cut-aways shot at the same time as the dialog. These videos a shown at 1080, just lke any other broadcast show, therefore no need for 4K cameras. Some shows are shot on Handy Cams, which have zoom lenses, for those who need them.
Thanks once again for both an entertaining and useful video! Quite impressed overall with the new lens features; especially when you consider this a camera you always have with you. Likely wouldn’t use cinematic mode (just like I rarely use portrait mode on my iPhone 11, still on occasion it works well), but otherwise could be a great tool. Still wish it performed better in low light, but I say that about all small cameras too. This seemed reasonable. Was just about to pick up a ZV1 as a small carry along camera, but this actually might be the better choice! A bit more perhaps, but so convenient for often same quality. Colors here however seemed a bit too much at times.
Great review !!! I love you guys :-) :-) Love the review for teaching the HUGE difference between a smartphone and mirrorless 4K quality camera👍👍👌👌Also appreciate that you didn't create a war between Android and Apple because you taught us and then showed us the facts. Fun to watch too with lots of giggles :-) :-) Thank you !!!! 🙏
Thanks for doing such a thorough review! Even though I can't afford and likely wouldn't buy one anyway, it's still nice to be informed. Those colours are just way off for me. Combined with the crazy good stabilisation, it makes it look like a video game.
"It is NOT literal torture watching footage shot in cinematic mode" Are you sure? 😂 Looks pretty painful to me. Easily the worst footage I've seen on this channel.
I really don't find the cinematic mode and portrait mode bokeh natural at all. They clearly have the same amount of blur throughout the background, but that's not how it works on a real lens. Things closer to the in-focus plane should be less blurred than things farther from it. At around 8:30 for example the wall next to Jordan, the bridge in the background and the buildings farther in the background look about equally blurry, which is just not the case with optically achieved bokeh. This is more like pulling a uniform gaussian blur over the background (which I'm sure is not far from the truth). Another gripe is with things keeping the same size when out of focus. The apparent size of things change drastically when in or out of focus, especially highlights or point sources of light (bokeh balls). For example the focus pull at 5:10 was incredibly unnatural. I would rather go instead with the native 4K resolution and have the natural bokeh of the lens blur what's needed.
"They clearly have the same amount of blur throughout the background" Uhm, no? They clearly DONT have the same blur on the entire background. Apple is actually creating a depth map so they can stop down the further away something is. Even my iPhone 11 Pro already does that. It's not always noticeable but it in fact does that. At 8:30 for example they used an F9. The differences between different distances is EXTREMELY hard to notice there in the first place.
@@Raja995mh33 Yes, they have a depth map, which falls of at ~4m in front of the camera. Look at any depth map you can find online and you'll see some appreciable separation on the main subject, but all the background is black, effectively rendering it flat. A real 26mm lens at f/9 would produce almost no perceptible bokeh, their metric thus flies out the window (try it with the nearest kit lens stopped down to f/9). At ~f/2.8 you'd get similar results on the walls and the overhang, but you wouldn't be able to recognize there's a bridge. At ~f/8 you'd get similar results on the bridge, but most of the near background would be sharp.
Always great videos, that beer looks amazing. Great insight, seems an exciting phone for amature photographers, film makers and enthusiasts. But they are like electric motorbikes, everyone appreciates the environment and the technology advances but we still love the noise and drama of a fueled engine. Don't buy into apple 🍏 too much please we all come here for camera and video reviews. God bless.
Good review. If only Apple didn’t over sharpen the image so much (or at least give an option to reduce it). And as someone using the 12, the skin tones still lean towards fake looking.
I was thinking everybody doesn’t like shallow depth of field. It make of Citizen Kane, Magnificent Ambersons, a the Long Vojage Home. They all stand out because their sharp front to back.and of course there are many more.
Great video thanks but you didn't mention anything about ProRes, is it worth it? What about the camera on the 13? do you think its worth going for the pro? A comparison review would be nice if you could.
Wonder what’s the mic you were using on this video, and one thing you did not mention when you talked about the video mode was audio quality, and the solution for audio recording
iPhones get the job done in everyday situations in 4K and in RAW which I am grateful for but I’m not seeing much progress in the 13s. The colors and subject separation look unnatural. I will not be upgrading from my “good enough” iPhone 12 Pro.
The opening shot of Jordan honestly looks like green screen with the soft edge around his entire silhouette. It was somewhat of a relief to see the improvement stopping down makes. As noted, I’m sure the effect will be improved in time. I don’t think filmmakers and camera makers need to worry about this being a threat, but it is interesting tech on a consumer level.
That was exactly my impression; not a great look. I do wonder about camera makers, though; while there will always be people willing to pay for specialist equipment, the continual improvements will keep nibbling further and further into the camera market.
@@rhythmace1 The recent eye tracking then animal eye tracking of professional cameras has been an exciting leg up on phones, though I wonder how long it might take to make there as well. Luckily for camera makers, phones just don't have the same lens reach to capture wildlife at a distance.
Yes, look at the window above his shoulder, as he moves a little it becomes sharp or blurred - fake bokeh is still looking too fake for my liking.
Yeah, seemed to be doing its artificial depth of field, trying to cut out the person from the background and doing a bad job of it.
I was thinking the same.. looks like he's standing in front of a green screen 🤣
Loved the bit with Jordan's reaction to the cinematic mode!
I’ve been trying cinematic mode on my 13 Pro Max for a while . I also found experimentally that stopping down a bit can make a major quality improvement, somehow, it’s rare that it’s mentioned in reviews, so I’m happy that it was here. It’s a very simple solution.
As I expected most reviewers won't try to stop down, they are not experimental enough. I always did portrait mode in f6.3 and above, not looking for crazy background blur.
It's an utter gimmick. People can't see past marketing hey.
@@unlokia easy for you to say since you obviously don’t have the phone. It’s better then you might think, and most people will never see the defects the reviewers love to point out.
@@unlokia I’m happy you’re so cynical. Enjoy life.
@@unlokia I can't blame you, the amount of artefacts is incredibly high - it's like portrait mode with all those problems but 30 times per second, magnifying the issue.
The cinematic mode at Tony 9 actually looked pretty usable. The 4k is painfully over sharpened and gross. The lack of 7680 fps slow mo makes it a useless tool :)
Except older phones from samsung and sony, all that offer 960fps or more, just playback. Not really recording slow motion.
@@silva_br1 But those modes were kinda useless and limited to literally recording for less than 1/4th of a second. Apple "only" offers you 240fps at 1080p but you can record as long as you want until your storage is full.
Agreed, though the 30fps restriction means I won't be using it much. I'd like to see a "pro mode" that lets you choose strip away that horrible sharpening. Looks like ProRes with Filmic gives a somewhat better result, but from the videos I've seen so far it still has the telltale smartphone video look. I suppose all that crazy computational stuff is probably the only thing that makes the footage halfway useable in the first place though, so maybe there's no benefit in fully disabling it.
LoL the reply to camera conspiracies... Why are you so serious son. It just Kasey on toneh 0.09 😂
All you want is the perfect camera with 7680 fps
That cinematic mode gave Jordan an entirely new haircut :D
Man the cinematic mode make it look like this was shoot using green screen or something, it’s wierd
0:23 thought Jordan had green screened himself on the scene. *cinematic mode ahhh yes
exactly. Cinematic Mode looks awful imo.
@@maxmouche The guys mentioned stepping down the aperture makes it bearable. Give them some time and it should be fixed
Excellent cameras for a smart phone, but I'm still not crazy about the software shallow DOF effect. It looks like some sort of weird haze filter surrounding the subject, instead of an even and smooth falloff. I hope Apple fixes that over time.
Length 13:13, how fitting 😅
Cinematic mode sorta looks like a poorly masked greenscreen to me.
Great overview of the pros and cons. Thanks!
Holy crap, Cinematic Mode is like "Neil Breen movie look simulator"
Stopping down in cinematic mode is great advice! I’d love to see the ponytail test with those settings. As this review has pushed me closer to upgrading, I may try the test myself!
Pushing the f-stop really is an easy way to make the content look horrible. I kinda hate that in many reviews people are setting it to f2 or whatever and then blame this mode for doing a bad job.
It's just like with Portrait Mode. stopping down helps a LOT. That way you still get a clean and good looking blurred background but without the mistakes around the subject all the time.
does stopping down just mean going back to regular focus "depth"?
@@pa4482 Stopping down means increasing the f number, aka, f stop. In a practical sense, raising the f number increases the depth of field and lessens background blur. Here’s some wikipedia action: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number
@@MQFahey thanks for the info
oh man, that scene holding Jordan's eyeballs open to watch the footage.... i'm dying over here! 🤣
This was the most helpful review on video and cinematic mode in general. Thank you for putting the time in.
What's going on with the colors in this review? They're kind of all over the map, but the cinematic mode, in particular, seemed really oversaturated and made Jordan look like a tomato. Was this tweaked in editing, or is it straight outta camera(phone)? It didn't seem like the still images had this problem.
Very smooth, very impressive performance by Jordan here. Good to see what Apple are up to, can't wait for the Google Pixel 6 Pro.
I am not a camera reviewer, I'm not really into photography even as a hobby. I love seeing good work but I myself have no experience in learning what goes into a good shot or any real terminology about cameras or photography. That being said, my iPhone 13 Pro Max has allowed me to take some of the best photos I've ever seen. I filmed a very small wedding reception along with the professional photographer they hired, and with portrait mode, they preferred some of my shots to those shot on a professional Sony camera.
They also aren't pros or camera buffs by any stretch, but the fact that a smartphone can keep up with a pro camera + lenses that combined cost 3x or more what my phone did, especially being used by a completely clueless operator, is super impressive in my opinion.
This is exactly why I don't use my expensive fullframe camera these days and photograph more and more with my phone. I learned about story telling and using the oldskool composition techniques. The images from my phone are amazing and people prefer them because the people look more natural (your not "taking a photograph"). Grandma doesn't see the technical imperfections. Yes, I see the quality difference. Even on my phone screen the fullframe camera looks "better", but the convenience takes over when using my iPhone. My wife laughs at me, because she uses her phone for many years now. :)
That guy bowling knocked down 2 pins max
Funny, I assumed no one saw that …
For something you can have with you all the time this is a terrific camera setup
Another solution at the same price point is a small quality point and shoot from one of the major camera companies.
Excellent review, the “A Clockwork Orange” scene would make Stanley proud were he still alive. Bravo!!
Holy shit that "cinematic" mode really is painful to look at
Wow the skin tones and natural bokeh are good enough for me. The cinematic mode when you stop down a bit looks pretty cool a detail pretty much every other reviewer missed but you guys didn’t. Keep up the good work 👏👏
When Jordan said “stopped downed a little bit” I was expecting him to say f/5.6. I wasn’t ready for f/8
5.6 is pretty wide open for video. That’s usually my starting point, you wanna make sure you give yourself some depth, it helps a lot with focusing.
Stopped down a lottle bit
haha loved The Clockwork Orange segment here, Chris, how dare thee!!!!!
The Clockwork Orange homage was brilliant
Jordan's skin tone didn't look good to my eye in Cinematic Mode and still looked a little too red in standard 4K. Skin tones seem to be a challenge for this phone camera.
Is there a way to internally turn down the artificial sharpness?
Cinematic mode with F9 looked great. Just enough to blur out the people behind you.
Great vlog. Just bought the iPhone 13 Pro and loving it. Like you mentioned 99.9% of people aren’t camera reviewers and I believe the quality for social media is amazing. To have the versatility and quality that this phone gives you for photo and video from a smartphone is great. Would recommend this phone big time 📱❤️
All I can think when watching those cinematic mode shots is.. wtf are those skintones lol
Dynamic tone mapping is a huge problem still. Also, internal reflections at night.
Wish there were options for more neutral processing.
I agree on the main wide. It’s been a huge upgrade even from my 12 Pro max.
Is it? In which way?
I'm not too sure about that
@@billx4266 detail, bokeh, and low light.
Cinematic mode looks nasty.
7:47 The cinematic mode still looks very fake even at f8...it's not as bad, but the halo effect around the subject is still there and and distracting to watch. However, this is a commendable effort from Apple, and with further improvements on the algorithm/software...it's probably be outstanding when iPhone 14 comes along.
while the cinematic mode aims to produce subject/background separation, the strong hdr is actually doing the opposite.. my brain is so confused!
great review though! DPReview is the best!
The HDR is terrible, IMO
I wasn't convinced by the skin tones, but also wonder if you could turn the cinematic videos into 3D videos, like you can with the photos with depth maps?
(12PM owner so won't be upgrading... it was a nice bump from the 7...)
I didn't like the unnatural skin tones either. Good point !!!
I also noticed it. For younger people, the skin tone is not very bad when shooting with iPhone, but for older people skin tone is not good at all. I hate my dirty skin tone shot by iPhone.
🤣🤣. Laughed a lot at the look at the footage clip. Very funny
You should test Xperia 1iii
The skin tones on Jordan both in cinematic and regular video mode look like absolute garbage to me. Both overly saturated and blotchy red and yellow with a tendency towards red. That's a deal breaker if you want to mix the footage with a mirrorless imo
It might match Canon footage tho
@@AlumarsX I haven't graded Canon footage in a while but from what I've seen, their Rec.709 look tends to handle skin tones pretty well with maybe an overall white balance skew towards magenta (which can be compensated for if you know about it)
Great in-depth vid. But where were the dramatic focus pulls between you and Chris? A famous scene recreation I believe is required.
That image stabilisation is mindblowing to me! The only thing stopping me from buying one of these and using it is Apple's image processing: I really don't like how they tone map the image, because it makes skin tones look unnaturally flat and bizarre-looking 😬
well Apple kinda has you covered then with the new Photography Styles. You can set up the look you want and the iPhone then will take every shot in those settings.
Yes that is what has stopped me buying
Yes thank you Clayton! It’s terrible the post processing makes you look dead and dull. Called apple supportt and they had no idea what I was talking about
The cinematic mode by the wire fence looked so funny😂
Texas Pro Photographer here: "Best BBQ in Calgary?!?!?" *GASP*
Ok some parts of this are hilarious. Damn you guys do a great job. 👌🏽👏🏽
Is that night mode only for pictures or also for videos? Thank you
30fps, finally a DPReview TV video I can support.
But that's heresy.
I thought their shutter speed was off at first. I felt nauseous lol
Terrific review, Jordan. You and Chris are both very compelling presenters.
Not just compelling presenters but the GREATEST presenters when it comes photo products. Love the honestly and work they put into their reviews !!!
is it just me or does the footage of foliage esp at 9:49 look really oversharpened
that was the review i was searching for ❤️
Coming from the iPhone 7 and so far I’m underwhelmed! I can’t stand the hdr/over sharpened look in a lot of these photos. Apple better give me the option to turn that off ASAP!!!
Best reviews of cameras on CZcams. Thanks 😊
I got the 13 pro because it’s a decent camera that’s always with you for day-to-day snapshots. I’m not going to carry my big Sony everywhere but when it matters, I’ll always opt for a real camera and good glass.
As an Android guy, I'm extremely impressed with the video quality from the iPhone 13 Pro. I mean, not enough to spend US$999 on one, but Apple has really thrown down the gauntlet.
Cinematic mode should automatically be 24 fps. It's insane for it to be 30 fps.
you don't even have to spend $999 since you get pretty much the same video quality (at least from the main sensor) on the 13 mini as well 😅
I have a 12promax and I am a blind content creator and I am shooting with my iPhone and my Insta360 OneR. I will upgrade when I have cinematic modes of my iPhone and my 360 camera
My photography has been on pause for a few years now but I still watch each and every one of your videos featuring Chris and Jordan. Almost feels like family at this point 😁
LMAO at the cinematic mode skit
Recently I've been watching a lot of Food Channel cooking videos. While measurebators have been obsessing over bokeh people are making serious money producing "cooking videos." One producer uses eight iPhones, pus one DSLR to shoot the video for his shows. Some iPhones are mounted on Gorilla Pods set on the counters looking into skillets, pots, etc. The shows are shot in one take, with all cut-aways shot at the same time as the dialog. These videos a shown at 1080, just lke any other broadcast show, therefore no need for 4K cameras. Some shows are shot on Handy Cams, which have zoom lenses, for those who need them.
Excellent review
Thanks once again for both an entertaining and useful video! Quite impressed overall with the new lens features; especially when you consider this a camera you always have with you. Likely wouldn’t use cinematic mode (just like I rarely use portrait mode on my iPhone 11, still on occasion it works well), but otherwise could be a great tool. Still wish it performed better in low light, but I say that about all small cameras too. This seemed reasonable. Was just about to pick up a ZV1 as a small carry along camera, but this actually might be the better choice! A bit more perhaps, but so convenient for often same quality. Colors here however seemed a bit too much at times.
I just bought one for use as a phone and browser. Now I’ll really have to give the cameras a try.
Great review!
Great review, I'm on the 12 pro max and will stay until the next iPhone version.
Great review as always. Cinematic mode at the start looked like green screen footage, but stopped down definitely looks better.
Really love your videos ❤️
Can you check out vivo x70 pro plus!
I want to know how is it from your perspective
an all Jordan episode!
Will you come back to look at ProRes when the time comes?
Your reviews are such top notch. Enjoyed it a lot.
Hope you do another review with ProRes enabled!
Wonderful clip . Thanks
Your channel is way underrated. You deserve more than Million subscribers.
@jordandrake @dpreviewtv what Storage Size iPhone 13 Pro you buy for yourself?
Thank you for the review, the footage and stills convinced me to just hold on to my iPhone 8 and stuck to my regular cameras
BEST REVIEW EVER❣️ LOVE FROM BANGLADESH ❣️
Got Jordan a sunburn? 😎
Great review !!! I love you guys :-) :-) Love the review for teaching the HUGE difference between a smartphone and mirrorless 4K quality camera👍👍👌👌Also appreciate that you didn't create a war between Android and Apple because you taught us and then showed us the facts. Fun to watch too with lots of giggles :-) :-) Thank you !!!! 🙏
Awesome video , thank you
Thanks for doing such a thorough review! Even though I can't afford and likely wouldn't buy one anyway, it's still nice to be informed. Those colours are just way off for me. Combined with the crazy good stabilisation, it makes it look like a video game.
Solid review, was there much/any colour grading done? Skin colour and tone is oddly red-yellowish?
"It is NOT literal torture watching footage shot in cinematic mode" Are you sure? 😂 Looks pretty painful to me. Easily the worst footage I've seen on this channel.
Wow the stabilization is so ridiculously good, certainly looks better than most mirrorless ibis system
Excellent review. Top notch.
I really don't find the cinematic mode and portrait mode bokeh natural at all. They clearly have the same amount of blur throughout the background, but that's not how it works on a real lens. Things closer to the in-focus plane should be less blurred than things farther from it. At around 8:30 for example the wall next to Jordan, the bridge in the background and the buildings farther in the background look about equally blurry, which is just not the case with optically achieved bokeh. This is more like pulling a uniform gaussian blur over the background (which I'm sure is not far from the truth).
Another gripe is with things keeping the same size when out of focus. The apparent size of things change drastically when in or out of focus, especially highlights or point sources of light (bokeh balls). For example the focus pull at 5:10 was incredibly unnatural.
I would rather go instead with the native 4K resolution and have the natural bokeh of the lens blur what's needed.
"They clearly have the same amount of blur throughout the background"
Uhm, no? They clearly DONT have the same blur on the entire background. Apple is actually creating a depth map so they can stop down the further away something is. Even my iPhone 11 Pro already does that. It's not always noticeable but it in fact does that.
At 8:30 for example they used an F9. The differences between different distances is EXTREMELY hard to notice there in the first place.
@@Raja995mh33 Yes, they have a depth map, which falls of at ~4m in front of the camera. Look at any depth map you can find online and you'll see some appreciable separation on the main subject, but all the background is black, effectively rendering it flat. A real 26mm lens at f/9 would produce almost no perceptible bokeh, their metric thus flies out the window (try it with the nearest kit lens stopped down to f/9). At ~f/2.8 you'd get similar results on the walls and the overhang, but you wouldn't be able to recognize there's a bridge. At ~f/8 you'd get similar results on the bridge, but most of the near background would be sharp.
Always great videos, that beer looks amazing. Great insight, seems an exciting phone for amature photographers, film makers and enthusiasts. But they are like electric motorbikes, everyone appreciates the environment and the technology advances but we still love the noise and drama of a fueled engine. Don't buy into apple 🍏 too much please we all come here for camera and video reviews. God bless.
Thanks. Nice quick to the point!
Thank you guys! Great review, shots and the fork story👍😄
was the sound out of the iphone too?
The video quality of iPhone on his video looks fantastic....am i the one who feel it ?
Awesome video as usual!!
Great review. Thanks
Apple should have make a camera pro app themselves, and allow to replace it at the Lock Screen.
Should I get this or the Sony ZV-1?
Good review. If only Apple didn’t over sharpen the image so much (or at least give an option to reduce it). And as someone using the 12, the skin tones still lean towards fake looking.
It’s so bad the oversharpening and makes skin colors look off
You guys are great. Love the reviews, and the cinematic mode discussion had me laughing. :)
Are there differences between the pro and pro max (such as withe the 12 pro vs the max)?
I was thinking everybody doesn’t like shallow depth of field. It make of Citizen Kane, Magnificent Ambersons, a the Long Vojage Home. They all stand out because their sharp front to back.and of course there are many more.
Great video thanks but you didn't mention anything about ProRes, is it worth it? What about the camera on the 13? do you think its worth going for the pro? A comparison review would be nice if you could.
Wonder what’s the mic you were using on this video, and one thing you did not mention when you talked about the video mode was audio quality, and the solution for audio recording
One of the better reviews of the new iPhone. Great job, guys!
iPhones get the job done in everyday situations in 4K and in RAW which I am grateful for but I’m not seeing much progress in the 13s. The colors and subject separation look unnatural. I will not be upgrading from my “good enough” iPhone 12 Pro.