King Crimson - Red (Live At The Warfield Theatre, San Francisco, CA.1995)
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This was pretty much my last big tour with King Crimson, a band that had given me a lot of sustenance over many albums and even more years. This is the title track from one such album - 'Red' - that had influence out of all proportion to its sales, although it’s a steady seller now, half a century later. Sometimes things take a while in the music business: in 2015 Rolling Stone eventually ranked the album at number 15 on their list of the 50 best progressive rock albums of all time.
I didn’t immediately warm to the song’s original recording. Robert Fripp, who composed the piece, remembers it this way: “Once the track was put down we played it back and Bill said, 'I don't get it, but if you tell me it's good, I trust you.' ... I said, 'We don't have to use it.' John was in no doubt: 'We'll use it.'”
The word ‘heavy’ has been bandied about a lot in reference to both track and album. I’ve always seen and heard myself as a fairly ‘light-touch’ drummer (who still has his hearing in good condition…I never broke a drumstick in my time with King Crimson), so the word ‘heavy’ as applied to the original studio track, doesn’t resonate with me. But this version with the extra help of Pat Mastelotto (drums) and Trey Gunn (touch bass) definitely does. But it is an elegant sort of heaviness: it's dinner-jacket heavy. Black Sabbath it ain’t.
A percussion instrument generally has an optimum dynamic range. If you keep hammering beyond that, it doesn’t get any louder, you just break it. So all that heavy-sweating, glistening-bicep, tortured-agony slogging of the committed metal player is mostly for your benefit. It’s already as loud as its going to get.
When I endorsed Tama Drums, they had a ‘Black Museum’ of twisted and wrecked bits of kit returned by (usually complaining) drum techs. One of their prize possessions, they told me proudly, was the metal arm of a boom cymbal stand that had been broken clean in two by drummer Liberty DeVitto of Billy Joel fame. He’d been pounding the cymbal so heavily he broke the steel arm that supported it. They didn’t say what happened to the cymbal, or to Liberty’s arm!
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I loved Bill's quote on leaving Yes to join King Crimson: it was like jumping over the Berlin Wall, INTO East Germany...
If you know both sides of that wall and YES and K.C. as well, you know how right this quote is...
@@sugrojYes was an "endless debate", like a democracy, but King Crimson was like... less democratic, more experimental and stuff
Not gonna lie. I always love to imagine K.C. as K.C. and The Sunshine Band instead 😄
I still like Yes better, even Rush.
@@DrMidnight-oz1rkbleh. I like rush a lot but king crimson is objectively better than yes
For me this is, always has been, and always will be the "National Anthem" of the mighty kingdom ruled by the Crimson King. It's for me like the point where all the lines, all the different incarnations, different styles come together. That rising line with which it opens and closes is just the band's signature.
50 years later this song remains a provocation, a revelation, a dare, maybe a double dare and, like a few other masterpieces of modernist music, deeply moving in the parts that resolve to moments of more traditional beauty.
Three Perfect Pairs!
El único grupo de Rock Progresivo, que logró volver a partir de los 80 y no dar lástima. Todo lo contrario. Genios.
Red, what a great tune and what an amazing album! A perfect swansong for that '74 version of the band. Not sure how many copies I've bought over the years for friends and family, but each copy was totally worth it.
This KC double trio really lays into it and does it justice. Belew, as always, tweaks the proceedings up a notch.
My ex-wife has a "Red" ringtone on her phone for when I call her! 😄
She knows what’s up! 🎶
I think that John Wetton had an uncanny ability to recognize if something is average or top notch. He was not just a singing bass player but a profound musician who understood more than most people would expect.
Fripp said in an interview that he believes John was as good as Jaco Pastorius. It's somewhere on CZcams, sorry I don't have a link
Looks like Tony Levin on bass in this clip.
@@richardshansky3040This is not about the video, but about Bill's notes in the description, talking about Wetton's ability to recognize a good track.
Yes, he said that Wetton was the best bassist of his generation, equal to Pastorious
He was a brilliant musician. He’s badly missed. His singing made some of King Crimson’s best music hauntingly beautiful and profound. I had the good fortune to see the band in his earliest years, touring Lark’s Tongues in Aspic and Starless. His singing cuts to the heart.
I was in college in the late eighties, and listening to some Peter Gabriel (I think it was) with some friends, and made the offhand comment, "Tony Levin is such an amazing bassist - can you imagine if he were in a band with Bill Bruford?" (Whom we had all admired from his work with Yes.) At which point my friends said, "There IS such a band!" and put on Discipline. It was both astounding and completely different from what I was expecting. And my first conscious introduction to both Fripp and Belew.
I love this story. It reminds me of when I first heard _The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway_ on the radio (also in the 80s). I thought it sounded like ELP.
The double trio was an excellent incarnation of KC. I wasn’t sure about the two drummer configuration at first, but Bill and Pat really figured out great ways to play off of each other. And Trey was another stellar addition to the band.
I attended this show- it was on my birthday- and it's in my top 5 all time favorite shows. I especially remembered this number as I had only recently purchased the studio album "Red," and was eager to see ANY of that material performed live. You guys were just flat-out fantastic. I've recently turned my 15-yr old son to "Discipline," and he is firmly hooked. Which is a fine thing.
Good for you for passing it on! My daughter and son love them!! I have attended a few KC concerts in my life, by far they are the best!!
I was also there, right up front. It was a transcendent musical experience.
Youngsters can always use more "Discipline" !!!###
I was also at this show, they were awesome as expected. I even liked the Thrak album they were touring, thought it could have gotten a little more love. This version of Red slays!
Yep, great show. What date in '95 was it?
I bought the Red Album exactly in my 20th birthday in 1974 fresh from the presses and it became one of my old time Crimson favorites to this day as a 69 year old decrepit dude😂Peace!
I think "heavy" is a good description, but also 'typically masterful' by king Crimson's virtuosos. My first time hearing King Crimson was an all-nighter with its first album, alternating with Mahavishnu Orchestra. I heard them both for the first time in 1971, back to back, over and over all night long. By the morning, 'I'd got it'. I think King Crimson should be ranked near to very top of 'progressive rock'- which is really an inadequate term for it. I first came to know the name Bill Bruford, from the many records I listened to. I kept seeing this name over and over. What a career!
Good heavens 👍 This is fantastic. I bought three tickets to the Wiltern Theater show on this tour. My drummer and bassist were outstanding professional musicians, so they couldn't afford to go. I fixed that with a credit card. The opening act, California Guitar Trio, floored us. Then, the Krim cleaned the floor.
I saw both June 29th and July 1st at the Wiltern!!!!
I wish I appreciated the double trio more when I saw this show.
I enjoyed reading your stories of Red. I consider Red to be heavy-ish but have always loved it. Glad ya'll kept it on the album. I love your description of this version of Red being "dinner-jacket heavy". Beautiful. Thank you.
What story about the album RED ? Where is this story of RED ? Inquiring minds want to know this chunk of useful information.
@@franks2bud Read the video description.
Such an exciting line-up and a powerfully fun rendition of a classic.
I'm a latecomer to KC, my first show was on the 'Beat' tour (July '83) with Fripp/Belew/Bruford/Levin, and that lineup will always have a special place in my heart. Seeing all four of you in this clip warms my heart!
My brother that's Not Late😂! I saw them just a year before in Ann Arbor MI and low and behold twas only 13 yrs after conception and Now Wow, 42 years have gone by. So not late, just intime 😆😎✌️
I wasn't even alive yet
Thank you sir Bill, it’s the best to woke up this morning, make my day!
FANTASTIC SHOW. Icon of the 90's. I WAS THERE.
I'm a big fan of the Discipline Crew and the Double Trio doing earlier Crimson works such as this; shame that it was an uncommon occurrence for them to be performed but nonetheless, thank you in advance for this one
Saw this tour stop in NYC, brilliant - especially Mr Bruford’s snare work!
All my fav songs have Bill Bruford on drums, legendary
This is my favorite piece of music. Glad it made it. I was also there that night.
Just OUTSTANDING! I remember watching Adrian's band, The Bears in Cincinnati before he joined Crimson.
Man I love that album
Bill took the biggest paycut in rock and roll history.
Excellent tour! I saw it in Rochester, NY, sat in the front of the balcony and the sound and view was superb.
Pretty cool that they should play Rochester. ✌🏼😃
I was at that show. Fabulous.
I got to see KC in Texas on their final tour a few years ago, the Covid tour. I took my band to the show and they sort of knew about Crimson. They opened with Pictures of a City and my drummer was glued to his seat, wide eyed and blown away. They had 3 drummers in front of the stage, the rest played on the stacks of speakers. I lost my mind when they played One more Red Nightmare and then later Red. Adrian Belew was not there but Mel Collins, the original KC sax player was and also Jakko, Tony and Pat. GREAT SHOW! Just Wow.
I've never seen a clip for a show I actually attended. Until now. Thank you!
Heaviness comes from the emotional weight of the music, not from how loud it is. With certain songs like Starless, it might be hard to get back on your feet when the song ends. Most metal bands in the 80s got it all wrong but not Sabbath.
BLACK SABBATH WAS THE BEST GROUP OUT THEY ROCKED THE PEOPLE LIVE R ALBUM WHAT EVER LOVED K C.
Red, mi disco de cabecera, sencillamente ¡ IMPRESIONANTE !
Very cool. I attended this show. Unforgettable.
Glad to say I was there!
Great venue with the greatest band, this is the bee's knees.
Full the Crimson Power !!! I Love it so much !!👍👍👍
Brilliant performance. Love the commentary. Thanks Bill!
Fabulous darling, thanks for this!
Red, my favorite album
I saw this in Nuremberg 1995. It was a big surprise to me to hear Red. Happiness ❤ 1972-74 is my favourite KC time. Thank You Bill for memories 😊
Yes, I’m sure that 1972/74 is a rhythmic figure that King Crimson has woven into one of their compositions 😸👉🏼🧮♾️
probably the greatest show i ever saw was this band in 1996.
i'hve been loving them since17, still in love
One of the greatest Band Projects ever! Epic!
I fondly remember this tour stop in Toronto and the last time I got to see you perform. Thanks for posting. Wishing you all the best Bill.
I was at this show- third row balcony, right next to the soundboard! Glad you use this track, Bill. That album supported many a late night card game!
Thanks for the intro/commentary. Good added value!
thanks Bill, keep em coming, great memories!
Ferocious take !
I had the pleasure of seeing them at Artpark, Lewiston NY, they were absolutely Outstanding 👏😎👍
That is pure filth! I love it.
filthy sweet prog metal
John Wetton is my favorite bass player in the band but I've always loved Tony Levin. I found out about him on the ABWH album & tour then learned in retrospect he was on lots of Gabriel stuff, Pink Floyd's '87 album and Late in the Evening by Paul Simon (amongst many other stuff).
Paul Simon had a smoking band around the time of One Trick Pony. Levin on bass, Richard Tee on keys, Steve Gadd on drums and Eric Gale on guitar (basically the band Stuff minus 2). If you've never seen Stuff Live at Montreux 1976 you should check it out. Cheers
@@finnmcginn9931 will check it out after work. Thanks!
I love reading Bill's description along with the song
I attended this show with my brothers. Sublime!
I was there! As was my son, who was 8 at the time and loved it.
Great video.
Sensacional, pra mim esta é a melhor formação do KC
Magnificent
Love this album, personal favorite of mine and always in my cars CD player
I saw this iteration of KC in 1995 at the Auditorium Theater in Rochester NY (where Tony Levin and Steve Gadd lived when attending the Eastman School of Music!) Great show. I recall an old metalhead suddenly jumping up when Red was played and walking up and down the aisle - banging his head - because he just couldn't stay sitting. I *think* this is also the show where Robert suddenly stood up from his stool for just a minute or two - while playing. One would have thought that he did a backward flip through a burning hop onto a trampoline = the crowd went wild when eh stood up!
Got to see them in greensburg pa many yrs ago! With John p Jones !!!!
Hola.
Un tema de la época en la cual Bill había dejado Yes y pasó a integrar una de las mejores etapas de King Crimson.
En este video recreado magistralmente, con el Crimson que volvió en los 80' y se transformó en los 90" en el doble trío.
Gracias Bill.
Saludos desde ciudad de Canelones, Uruguay.
Vamo la Celeste vamo Bill Bruford!!!
かっこよすぎる！！！❤
Love your stories Bill. You got my sub. On two accounts. 😊
Totally unreal...WOW!!!
Wow! Just fucking wow! 😮
One of the great heavy rock songs of all time. Maybe the best.
Wondoerful❤❤❤❤❤
the one and only ❤🔥
i would've given anything to have seen this concert (or similar one from this tour)
Best live band!!!!
You still can't beat a dose of 70s Crim played by 90s Crim. Bruford never broke a stick in Crim. Impressive dynamic control that. Says a lot that John Wetton backed Fripp on Red's inclusion. He was right. And Wetton often seemed the most keen to keep Crim moving in the direction of towering, lumbering success.
Wow
Yeahhhhhhhhhh thanks
Piel de gallina
Heaviest band on earth
I was there!
I was also at this show. It all went well until Adrian pulled out the drill for Thrakk. My then new girlfriend almost got up and walked out because she'd had a crap day at work, REALLY wanted a glass of wine but was denied by Robert's no alcohol mandate, and her back was killing her in the less than comfortable Warfield seats. We're still together but it was a very close call. After that we made a deal that I would never ask her to accompany me to a King Crimson concert!
That's a policy that has saved many relationships. Thrak can be music but it's just shy of assault if you aren't in the mood.
Bill with his canary yellow Drum set! 👍👍👍
I leard that it has now been given to the guys in the Beat lineup, though it is quite a different shape to Denis Carey's usual setup.
I saw it recently, on sale at Graham Russell Drums in Fareham, Hampshire, England, when they hosted an auction sale of all Bill's performing gear on his retirement.
Esa batería Tama de Bill, cuando no está se extraña y mucho.
The hammer.
Hey, I was at that show!
I was always a little ambivalent about the double trio years in the same way I was about the Yes:Union situation. Apples and oranges of course but I felt like it became too busy and confusing a stage show to fully digest. I became a Crimson fan in the early 80's and saw the NYC show that was outdoors by the aircraft carrier museum which I think had to be the Three of a Perfect Pair tour. I was in high school at the time but it was so exciting to see how this music was played by just 4 guys. And so all those years later on the Thrak tour I was happy that Crimson were back together but I was almost 30 by then and somehow it just didn't move me like it did when I was a teenager. The live show that is. I enjoyed the Thrak album though.
A great rendition of my favorite pieces of all time. You are too humble. Heavy is not, as you point out, about sweating biceps or whatever. The truth is hundreds of metal bands have sold their souls to try to achieve this level of brutality, and completely failed. The reason is that they forgot music has to be beautiful as well. Your performance on the original album version of this song is one of the greatest drum performances I know of. thank you for posting this!
Well, it only took 3 guitarists and 2 drummers to recreate that enormous energy of the original version on the album 🙃 .. just proves some things cant be bettered.. never in the same river twice
So, I never heard any KC music before about three years ago. Thankfully, I now have the best-sounding stereo system I've ever heard and am finding out about a lot of bands I knew nothing about. Making up for wasted time!
Poseidon and Lizard are absolutely symphonic on a good stereo/5.1 system. Rock on.
This is heavy-heavier than anything that could claim to be heavy.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the double trio
@T.elegramBillBruford saw the double trio in Boston in 1995 I think. orpheum theater if I am not mistaken.
By all means.... :)
1982 REGGIO EMILIA..Ade asks--" do you like to hear red?"
Progressive!
interesting final paragraph...I watched some Billy Joel concert highlights on TV many years ago.Devitto was hitting his cymbals so hard that they made NO SOUND...you could see him pummeling them...see them moving...but producing ZERO sound...
I had a hippie friend back in high school who insisted that if I liked jazz, which I had only just discovered in earnest for myself at that time, then I would love King Crimson. I scoffed at the notion because I assumed they were just some annoying obscure rock band and dismissed the thought completely. Fast forward to my, now somewhat mature years listening to all kinds of beautiful and challenging music and I have somehow fallen into the “wow, King Crimson is pretty mind boggling and beautiful stuff” frame of mind. Go figure? 🤷🏻♂️😸
My Favorite lineup in King Crimson
Was original LARKS to RED Linup.
There Live Shows we're Legendary .
But the Double Trio lineup dis a fine job with RED.
Seen this Tour as well as 2021 Tour which was Fantastic as Well.
Bruford really gave Crimson that Sound.
Between FRIPP & BRUFORD there was that Tension of Two Masters .
Belew is more of a Frontman than JAKO.
That's why they put the Drums up Front with that lineup.
But I seen this lineup 4 times.
There were great.
@T.elegramBillBruford HI Bill.
Followed your Career from Gong to YES, KING CRIMSON, UK
EARTHWORKS.
Seen you behind that Beautiful Bananna TAMPA Kit.
Jacket to Match.
You Legacy is Cemeted in Time.
Seen some great Drummers through the Years.
Your Snare work separates You.
Not just a Banger as they say.
Your Musical with your kit.
Also with your Words .
Thanks Bill.
I to jest muza !.
I love this song and this performance, but man, there's something about it that's almost demonic. I was imagining how Red could work as a theme song for the opening of a totalitarian political party convention, with all the attendees marching in time to the driving rhythm, and during some of the quieter passages performing individual interpretive dances that reflect martial themes with slashing, stomping and bayoneting motions. No idea what Robert Fripp was actually trying to convey with this composition, but it can have a rather unsettling effect, and the album in its entirety has an air of melancholy and foreboding. Perhaps working through such reactions is part of the thrill of powerful music.
The double trio lineup is arguably the best one. To get the full sonic impact you have to listen through earphones.
I heard the Double Trio in Los Angeles, 1999, at the House of Blues on Sunset Strip.
The nearest thing to a perfect concert PA i ever heard, and the acoustic design of the building must have been part of the picture too.
Dense, intense complex music, and i could hear every detail with total power and clarity.
The album was a farewell to what was in my opinion
Sucks that the best part is at the ending, love this song!!!
"Being in King Crimson is a little like having a low-grade infection: you're not really sick, but you don't feel well, either."
- Trey Gunn
...and yet, he played with them for, what, 10 years or so?