6 Struggles of Being Overly Intelligent
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- Intelligence like anything else is really hard to measure. Even though we have what is known as general intelligence or the g factor coined by a famous British psychologist Carles Spearman (1863-1945), people still disagree that intelligence can truly be measured. For example, how do you separate those who have street-smart, and have life experiences, from those who are generally better with logic, reading, and taking tests? That aside, we will cover 6 interesting studies linking general intelligence and psychology.
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Do you feel high intelligence is a curse or a gift?
Yes
Curse
Both
Both
Yes!!
Nah high intelligence is one thing, the ability to use it when it's needed and keep your mouth shut when it's not, is another
I think thats the social part...its a hit or miss as intelligence is more complex than a simply "Intelligent at everything" the video says it itself really.
Hahah very true
That would be the concept of wisdom, the appropriate use of acquired knowledge.
Damn, I feel so called out :)
i agree rea inteligence means, when u use or not what u learn
High intelligence is both a gift and a curse, but knowing when and how to apply it is the real gift.
Known as wisdom? :P
@@Psych2go Definitely wisdom
I just got lucky and got the sweet spot of high intelligence and mid intelligence
No stress
Good grades
Pretty much depends on your genes
This comment section is what I needed to read. Now I am going to look into wisdom. I should know when and how to apply it otherwise I will stay in this cycle of trial and error with friends, family, mental stability, unfulfilled passions and so on
And living it is a damn curse
My brother and I were bored at school. They teachers said we had learning disabilities. We were taken to mental specialists of some sort and were given IQ tests. We were both way above average. The specialist said we were just under stimulated by school. We both ended up being scientists in different fields.
The curse of mediocre teachers...
im glad to hear you didnt let the school system break your spirit. it does for a lot of people
I just went to a neuropsychologist and she’s said the same thing. School under stimulates me greatly and idk how to react.
I think people who usually dont work at school and say they are not interested in it. Tend to be high iq people
A pair of science brothers... Kinda wanna write a screenplay on this
When I was in the 3rd grade my teacher told my parents that I had a learning disability. My parents took me to a psychologist that put me through tests. Turned out I had an IQ of 152, and my teacher just didn't know how to respond to me. I had/have trouble making new friends, and still have some issues in social situations. I tend to cope by trying to put myself on the same mental level of the person I'm talking to. It can be exhausting, so I tend not to "people" often.
May I ask you, if you wanna answer me, if you are on the autistic spectrum?
Great, my IQ's around 150 too, and what you are saying is 100% true. It's hard making friends.
@@paolomartinelli345 Not that I have been made aware of.
go take a shower
@@holymeto9981 do you feel intelligent? Or do you constantly question your own intelligence? Like, when you're alone all day in your element, do you do or think things that make you think "You know, they could have gotten it wrong, and I actually could have a low IQ and not know it."
Asking because I've been questioning my own intelligence and I'm not sure if I'm intelligent enough to achieve my goals. What if I'm an idiot with unrealistic dreams and I'm picking at a locked door.
Some downsides of intelligence may be the tendency to overthink, people getting annoyed when you casually correct them in conversation, and prioritising thinking over feeling.
So true, because with a high IQ you have the ability to think in a broader range = overthinking. Leads to anxiety. Leads to depression. I hate if that happens. Takes forever to heal.
Excuse me, I think you meant 'tendency'. ;)
Yep
Accurate, have a nice day
*casually
(IQ=162. Friend count: 3)
There were a few things I had hoped to hear about:
- during childhood development high IQ is correlated with low emotional/social skills (though they do catch up in adulthood)
- nihilism - the better you understand how the world works (atheism, moral relativism, illusion of free will), the more difficult it is to find "meaning" in life
- decision paralysis - this one often strongly counters the "arrogant know-it-all" aspect of a high-IQ personality - being aware of the complexities of factors that influence the future and distrust of intuitions may make it difficult to decide on an optimal action
- loneliness - the stunted EQ and irritability with "dumb people" lead to a significantly smaller social circle
I think exurb1a here on CZcams is a great example of a highly intelligent nihilistic person. Would also love to hear more about that in particular 😊
@@Party21304 he is the goat, also there is this Gen Z guy called Gherbert Johnson and he is also very smart and nihilistic
@@Andres_2004 Never heard of him. I'll give him a listen
Nope that’s not true iq and eq are associated with each other both go hand in hand
First EQ does not exist, the data on that is clear, you might be playing language games, if you could clarify, do not hesitate.
Second nihilism is a factor of losing a fundamental axiom, also to let go of responsibility, nothing to do with intelligence.
Decision paralysis is about not being articulate, nothing to do with intelligence, if you mean sceptical to accepting ideas, it's possible intelligent people do that, although it not simply obvious how or why.
Loneliness is about either being ugly (which is pretty rare), being annoying, not articulating your ideas to the right people, or not being properly socialised by the age of 4, having too high expectations, nothing to do with intelligence.
1)Mental and emotional disorders
Over analysis
Hyper awareness
2)Stress
3) social burden
Burn outs
4) negative expression
High iq lacks in one place when high in another
5) self esteem rely on others eyes too much
One of the best decisions I ever made was to shift away from valuing myself based on my achievement and intelligence. Instead, I've chosen to measure my worth based on how much effort I put towards living with integrity and kindness. I don't always succeed, but by placing the value in working towards those goals and rectifying mistakes, I find myself being kinder not just to others, but myself. Compulsive, self-injurous thoughts still occur, but not as frequently and not as strongly. Compassion is a skill that is not dependant on intellect, beauty, athletic ability, or anything time may erase. I hope my epitaph says I was kind. I hope that's how I'm remembered.
Trust Goodness and be brave.
That's quite a nobel goal brother I wish you all the best.
I agree. A couple of years ago i found on Instagram a post that asked if you rather have a stupid child or an evil One. It was a tought choice at First since i didn't want my child to be smart but use it to be mean, not i wanted him to be stupid and living and hard Life. But eventually i realized that out of those 2 i would rather have him stupid, because of the simplex fact that it's not a fault. While being Wicked It Is.
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I’ve found that the expectations that are intrinsically associated with intelligent people usually manifest as perceptions of competency, high executive function, and being the most effective person in the room (depending on the room). But people are people, and as soon as you consider that people have mental disorders, it can cause those big gaps between expectation and reality
Amen
Great point
Being normal is intelligent being 1% smarter is albert einstein levels this world is cursed apon us common sense is god sense and the world is now baby brain dead god have you seen the news?
Valid point. We have to look at people holistically as well.
Executive functioning is usually stunted in us. We're the idea-people.
"It takes more than intelligence to act intelligently." - Dostoyevsky
Yup! And that's why what is the practical use of intelligence when wisdom could be more important :)
Is that qoute from "the crime and the judgment" book? And Is it part one or part two?
And that is way philosophers tend to think and not to act.
I struggled with the perfectionist aspect for years, to the point of not doing anything due to constantly trying to perfect a design or idea right out of the gate. Growing up, it was always "do your best", and an expectation of first time perfection. The greatest lesson I've learned in my adult life is now "Don't let great be the enemy of good". I don't even remember where I first heard that, but initially I dismissed it as an excuse to turn out half assed results. The more I worked it around in my mind, though, the more I understood that producing something adequate to build off of later is much better than something absolutely perfect but way too late.
I'm still learning to not pass on a good opportunity while waiting for a perfect one. In people, things, events. I always try to make things perfect, but I realized it doesn't make me fulfilled or happy if I get my way 100%
You should check out Aaron Doughty, he changed my life
Bro, I had never felt so identified about perfectionism, every time I did not do my best I thought that I was being mediocre, but in reality it was a good result. It makes you treat yourself very unfairly when you really need to reward yourself, to keep a good mental.
Perfectionism has nothing to do with intelligence. There are also perfectionists that are stupid af
I've said for years, I carry the curse of perfectionism. People say I often overthink things and I am my worst critic, always quoting, "nobody can do it any better than yourself." I expect 110% out of myself and sadly, the same of others. Mind you, a lot of my work is quite outstanding although I think it can always be better. Do I think I'm perfect? Heck, far from it.
My biggest problem is that I have been paired with multiple therapists to try and tackle my mental issues but I am a highly self aware person and usually I self analyze to the point that I just confuse every therapist I interact with. Like I can take a look at my past and pick apart how that may be affecting my current psyche and then explain that to my therapists and they often just end up agreeing and congratulating me on my self awareness but that doesn't fix my mental state and I'm not sure anything ever really will. It's hard to feel like I'm making any sort of progress towards happiness when it seems even professionals are not capable of understanding me. And that's not even a "hey look how smart I am" flex type thing but just how I can best describe my experience.
only you can fix your mental state. Therapists only exist to help you talk through things so you understand them. They are not magic and certainly won't ever help you find happiness or contentment. If what you are doing is not working, change what you are doing. There are tons of actually useful books written by brilliant people that might help far more than talking to a therapist.
Christ on a donkey, this is me right now. I've been through so many therapists, it's not even funny. During the first session with every single one of them, the question of why I am there comes up. My answer is the same. "I am fully aware that my emotional instability is affecting my ability to function on a day-to-day basis. I am fully aware that I must seek help for this. I know that my toolbox for dealing with my emotional state is pretty empty. I just don't know where to start looking for the right tools." And every single time, I get the most confused look from them. It's like they are saying to themselves, "Well, what am I supposed to do with you? You've already done most of my job for yourself!" It is a VERY frustrating situation to be in.
Maybe practicing consistent meditation could help you on reaching a stable psyche. Maybe there are more things to you than you are conscious of, for instance you could analyze yourself more if you acces your deeper conscience. Remembering dreams or lucid dreaming may come handy so you can reorder your subconscious chaos. If you are into more taboo things, pyschedelic mushrooms may show you that which you struggle with in a deep way not seen or thought before. Also talking with people you will normally not talk to, can give a different sort of insight from your usual social circle. End day message is that one is and must be his own guide, his own coach, his own therapist. After your own self aware analysisis, act out in the world your answers and not just reanalize for a better answer or option, stick to your decission or you will remain trying to pick the best indefinetely and not getting done anything for yourself. Remember "fortune favors the bold", dont let a good array of words in form of excuses trap you, dont let well thought language destroy your innerself whom is much more. Best of wishes in your progress,
@@mateoparrado7668 I can appreciate your insight, however a person can only self-analyze so much. A person may at that point desire an outside perspective. For those who seek an outside perspective, no amount of self-reflection will give them what they are looking for.
This is what therapists do. They are a (supposedly) neutral party who can listen and give insight into what a person says they are feeling.
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I’m not going to claim I have super high intellect but I definitely can relate to most of these to some degree.
The last two years of college have been pretty stressful as I can’t just waltz my way through it just like I did with high school. It doesn’t help that a lot of the things I’ve been assigned are very time consuming, and it’s really hard to manage time with my ADHD. Ironically I’m procrastinating on a project I have to get done just by watching this. Due to this, I’ve been struggling to get As and Bs in classes that should be easy for me; which has dealt quite a blow to my ego.
I hope everyone out there struggling with academics try their hardest and keep focused on the tasks ahead of them!
Yoo i understand you, i go through the same exact thing
Same except that it is my third year of college/university, I don’t have ADHD and I don’t even know how tough the classes truly are vs how dumb I am at this point. And failing like this kills any motivation I had left as I think to myself that there is no point in trying anymore so I have sort of given up. But I can’t even get my mind off of what I am supposed to be doing too much, which leads into me continuing to cry and criticise myself about it. I dread even going to bed and waking up at this point as I know I will have to go to school again and attempt to understand something that I will probably forget after leaving the class even if I somehow do anyway (which was never an issue before…) while praying the teachers don’t ask me anything. Me. Having to hide from teachers. What an absolute embarrassment. To be fair I used to hate regular school too but at least then I had standards, it is a million times worse when you are failing it and people tell you how you are “wasting your potential” and “not trying hard enough” as the video mentions as well. Christ, I have 0 energy or motivation at this point as I said and I think I am just too dumb and my potential is long gone either way. I keep forgetting things that I used to know, sometimes I can’t even understand a Wikipedia article or have to reread it because I got stuff mixed up or whatever, what potential are you talking about? I tend to believe the good one was a different me tbh, I don’t even know what happened. Sidenote:My university classes start in 6 and a half hours so I should probably sleep now…
That's exactly me right now :,)
exactly same for me
Iconic 777: That's a very honest reply to this video, and you're brave to have made it. I can relate to your experiences at college. Keep on keeping on!
Life is long when you're young so have good effective self-care strategies in place and make sure you use them. (Then hopefully you'll be in good enough shape mentally to enjoy your later years...) ❤️ K
This really hits, thanks for making me feel more normal. I just started taking anti-depression meds a few weeks ago. I feel a lot better right now, but still finding my way in life.
Same here boss
I scored 136 when I was younger and both my parents were very intelligent. However, my parents were also extremely dysfunctional which left me severely traumatized and unable to function normally. I think my awareness and sensitivity made it worse because my parents burdened me with their problems starting at a very young age. They conditioned me to accept their stress and anxiety without complaint or objection. So in my case it was a curse which left me with a lifetime of pain and misery due to childhood abuse. I never really accomplished much in my life. I sabotaged school and every job and every relationship. Only until recently, after getting into therapy and learning to process my unresolved trauma, did I finally finish my degree in physics. I still continue therapy and I am getting better a little at a time. I still work as a security guard even though I have my degree because i get to work alone most of the time and that brings me peace. At some point I hope to work as an engineer which would be a lot more fulfilling.
im 52 now, i dropped out of school at a very young age and drifted through life living homeless, devoid of family and through an endless string of disfunctional interpersonal relationships, im at the point now where i just hate waking up everyday, i honestly feel like i have no place in this world.. a lot of the people i was friends with growing up are all dead now from drug overdoses and other forms of antisocial misadaventure.. amonsgt my peers im like the last man standing and it truly feels like some kind of divine punishment yeah
I’m so sorry what happened to u. I can totally relate to this, intelligence and emotional sensitivity are just two different things and pp need both of them😢
I feel u man, my mom is also always strest, I have a high iq but not that high, and i think the stress is just a thing that comes with your iq
I’m almost in the exact same boat. My parents gave me a beating sometimes multiple a day everyday for 7 years straight and w a near photographic memory… But have dedicated years to learning bout psychology that’s specific to my mental make up and how every aspect of each of my trauma had affected me wether that’s my subconscious behavior or how it’s changed my active thoughts. It has helped tremendously even tho I’m still currently struggling as a 20 yr old that dropped out of HS. My point is try psych help urself. Normal therapy barely helps as barely anybody understands my situation
@Alex Ren I found a therapist that specializes in childhood abuse and trauma.
There is a technique developed by an Olympic coach called "brainspotting" that is based on how our eye sight is connected to primal areas of our brain that are responsible for flight or fight instincts.
Sort of like the saying that our eyes are the window to our soul.
The idea sounds like snake oil and I was highly skeptical at first, but after one session I immediately felt like I was stoned on Marijuana.
Like a very legit high, yet I hadn't smoked pot in over a decade. The effect was like allowing my brain to finally relax and shift out of high gear into neutral. By far one of the most profound experiences I have had in my life.
Try to find a therapist who specializes in trauma and brainspotting.
Might take awhile to find the right therapist but don't give up.
I wish I had a succesful therapy experience in my 20's.
I tried a couple times in my 20's and 30's and the therapist were either incompetent and/or inexperienced.
Unfortunately for me I suffered a long time before getting the help I needed at 50.
Don't wait that long because you can save yourself from many years of unnecessary pain and suffering.
Therapy is not a magic pill but it had helped me immensely once I found the right therapist to begin processing my unresolved trauma.
I used to be depressed af at school because i'd get punished for not doing my homework and studies yet I always got 100% without them. On my final year a teacher always ignored me but a student asked why I did not have to do my homeworks while his friend had to do it right here right now. The teacher made me happy since their answer was pretty simple and straightforward but also something I'd have liked to hear long ago, "It is an exercise to help better grades, your friend may need better grades but 'Tom' does not so I do not need to ask more of them. It is unfair but that is how I see things." And I recall he was not liked as a teacher yet he was a nice person and they helped me a bit stay at school when all I wanted was to be done with it and go do something else.
It may be because they teach differently. I also had a few teacher that everybody hated/loved, but me i was just meh, if not against the others opinions.
To make someone intelligent satisfied, you need to put him hard works. Else he just won't listen anything, because it won't change anything anyway.
Meanwhile, the others need average work. Not too easy, so that they still work, but also not too hard, because then everybody will fail your class.
So when a teacher help smarts students, it usually penalize average students, while greatly advantaging smart students.
I think ur teacher is amazing, i like the way he thinks, and i believe that homework r for Strengthening students' abilities, not just to be done like most people sees it
@Vipul Yadav Thanks a lot, it is the first time someone complimented on the net so ill return the compliment and assume you too are a good person. :)
I think being regular or playing dumb and actually being smart is intelligent. You're the underrated character and you haven't shown all your cards yet. You don't need to show off your strengths right away
That's because you are not an intellect. This is an impossible proposition for many of us. You are demonstrating one of the reasons we tend to isolate. How can you make a supposition with a lack of expertise in psychology or the capacity to comprehend something without a reference point? Do you believe Hunter S Thompson, Christopher Hitchens, N. Tesla, or Howard Hughes would be capable of doing such a thing?
This demonstrates the disconnect that affirms what we fear- never being understood. It's neither person's fault. This is how it is. Nothing is owed here, but it's real easy to have bouts with the victim mentality. Helplessness comes for the futurists. For those that can accurately predict global changes, they'll never be taken seriously by most. Perhaps that's why the prophet Jeremiah was always lamenting. Ray Kurzweil to Christ have dealt with this very frustration.
And yes, if you are reading this now, you'll almost certainly be dead in 10 years. Buckle up.
Hear that? mikebell4761 says you are not an intellect. His word is law. 😑
@@charbroilin Fair enough, but that's a blessing.
I don’t consider myself as highly intelligent, and yet I have to dumb myself down every day so people understand what I’m saying
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When I was growing up, I always hated the double standard against intelligent kids. Kids who were physically faster and stronger than the rest were praised and encouraged, but kids who were smarter could not celebrate their intelligence. We always had to worry about the feelings of the same dunces who bullied us when the teachers were not looking. Back in the day, the kid who could not 'get along' was always at fault. When a fight broke out, they always took the side of the kid who was crying. Parents were often bigger monsters than their kids.
I completely relate to this! Most of the time, people exhibit one of two behaviours when they encounter me - awe/admiration, which results in them instantly placing me on a pedestal, or profound hate and/or jealousy, just for being who I am. And contrary to what one might expect, I'm not an egotistical jerk - my upbringing, centred towards being virtuous, peaceful and an asset to society ended up making me quite a people pleaser throughout high school. Just said yes to everyone to avoid conflict and while helping people was utterly fulfilling, I lacked the emotional maturity to understand how much I was exploited by my peers.
This treatment, in one way or another, ended up making it difficult to develop genuine connections.
I've always found teaching, leadership, management, public speaking and related activities highly fulfilling but had problems connecting with people on a personal level - I was more of a tutor or counsellor to people rather than a friend, an equal.
Helping people is pretty fulfilling, but I did feel lonely and had almost convinced myself that apart from my parents, there are only a couple of people or so, with enough intellectual depth to comprehend my mental state.
I did drive myself into a rabbit hole of overthinking and depression, especially after a breakup a couple of years ago, until a few changes, including coming across Psych2Go have helped me proceed in a better direction! It's been more than a year since I gave up people-pleasing, learnt to say "NO" more often and established a clear distinction between humility and allowing myself to be exploited.
I've also put my risk-averse self behind, up to a great extent, and have started enjoying life in general.
I've opened up to more people and was surprised at the support I got by "letting my guard down". People were always there, I only needed to reach out to them. My friends (Yes, I now have friends in the truest sense of the word! 😌) also motivated me to start working out, which has been one of the best things I've ever done! I'm more motivated than ever to accomplish my goals and I feel complete and a lot less of an outcast than I used to.
Kudos to Psych2Go, love your work! 💙
P.S.: For those who are wondering, I'm an INFJ with an IQ of 172.
Yo you sound like me. I'm an INFJ (very rare) and also share the same interests as you and Tutor. How did you learn how to be humble vs not letting others exploit you?
Well, hello there! For me, overcoming people-pleasing required me to accept that it was a problem - most of the time, I noticed that I let people treat me unfairly, use me, and then found myself compensating for my lack of action by branding my silence as a virtue. A key moment was when my last relationship ended and I realized how spineless I had rendered myself when it came to a few people in my life that I simply couldn't deny at all. So I decided to start small. Just say no to mundane tasks at first. It was pretty hard and my conscience kept tormenting me to revert my decision, but I somehow stood firm. From denying tiny errands that people could easily do by themselves to then saying no to favours that left me drained, it took me about a year to cement this practice. Another thing I'd like to mention is that I started taking action in other avenues in life too. I started working out, disciplined myself, and organized my life to a great extent and am still improving. The complacency that came out of overachieving made me stagnate and turn lazy, so taking action and holding myself accountable made me value myself, and treat myself with respect and dignity. I also happened to come across Dr Jordan Peterson's lectures and my oh my they were just what I needed! Content from David Goggins was amazing too! It also helped that I had a change in environment via joining a pretty good college where most of my schoolmates didn't make it and the new, unknown environment helped me experiment and work on this change in personality without having to worry about emotional blackmail from people I know. Once I got used to the new me, it was easy to play life in hard mode - rejecting the selfish advances of people that were closest to me. I noticed an increase in the respect I got from people (and fear too 😳) and I'm glad to say that 2 years later, no one takes me for granted or rather, I don't let anyone exploit me. At the same time, I rely on my observations and instinct to help people who are genuinely in need of it. I've blocked and discarded a few of the extremely intolerable and toxic people from my past and that has worked wonders! I hope you're able to overcome your barriers too. All the best! 💙
INFP here!
The hardest thing for me at least is when you are intelligent or skilled enough to get just about everything right you don't really know how to handle it at all when something goes wrong even a little bit.
Yea same ! I thought it's just me who felt this way
I think burn-out is the scariest thing as someone with "high intelligence". Growing up, I never tried in school, hell, I didn't HAVE to try to get good grades or test scores. I could be absent from school for a whole week and still place first in class. I didn't study- I didn't know how to, actually. But, after COVID, I fell into depression, and school became... Difficult. It was weird. It was terrifying. I felt so stupid. Ironically, my depression caused me to feel stupid, and feeling stupid just made me more depressed. It was an endless cycle. After 2 years of that, I learned to try. I learned how to put effort and I learned how to study (regretfully, I'm still trying to integrate it into my life). The expectations are just as scary though. Everyone just expects you to get it right, and when you don't, they scream and yell at you for getting a 70%.
I resonate with many of these. As an up-side-down leaner, I don't test well, but I do very well solving real world novel problems. I've only realized recently that I am very disconnected from my emotions, always have been. I'm reaching that point in my life with relationships and memories are more important than learning and working a lot. After several years of ever increasing general anxiety, talked to a therapist that got me to start connecting with my emotions and it's been getting much better. The biggest issue is that I've spent my entire life up to this point being disconnected from emotion and being a highly rational person. I feel like I'm no longer myself and it's quite the shock forcing myself to become someone new. But hopefully better.
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My mother has (repeatedly) talked about how I was tested for my IQ when I was young, that it's in excess of 150, and the only reason that it isn't higher, is because the people testing me "ran out of test", and so couldn't continue. She encouraged me to pursue maths and science in order to make use of my near "genius level intellect".
I wanted to be a writer. She discouraged me from pursuing a writing career... until after I flunked uni because I just couldn't make myself interested in the courses I was doing. She's since apologised for steering me wrong.
I went and got a job, and after nearly sixteen years in the business, I can say with some confidence that I am the best in my field... though it is a dead end job and I work nine hours a day in a 10ft cubed room underground.
And I was bullied on my way here. In addition to my "high intelligence", I'm also high functioning autistic, so I have a "unique" perspective on how things should work and have very specific skills and strengths. My previous coworkers didn't understand me and refused to adjust their expectations of me, leading to them criticising and insulting me until I wanted to leave. This happened in four different buildings, and while I like my current little dungeon, I'm starting to hear the same bs from my current boss, so I'm worried that history might repeat itself again now. As for my "high intelligence", well, my high IQ has been paired with a low EQ, leading to me struggling in social situations, often being unable to think what to say when prompted in a reasonable time frame, and nearly having a panic attacked when overstimulated at a work place dinner, only being saved when half the staff left to catch their trains/busses home.
With all of that, and a few genetic conditions that I'm also not happy with, I've ended up with severe depression and worry that things that I want in life (like a family of my own) are things that I don't deserve or shouldn't have. My "high intelligence" has done me no good except to make my mental situation worse with extreme rumination and near constant self-doubt. It doesn't help that every time I think to myself "hey, it isn't do bad", something bad happens that brings my little house of cards crashing down once more.
Last time I commented on this channel, it was to say that things were going well for me. I'm sorry to say that, by the time Psych2Go found my post and responded, I was already back in the dark, and all things considered, 2022 has been the darkness year for me so far.
I too have dealt with having a low EQ and the problems that causes with others, I will be praying for you pal.
If it is of worth, I do find the way you write about this is honest and pleasant, and I continue to respect struggling people more and more for we all have our problems and all need love. Happy thoughts to you, friend on a different part of the planet. :)
Your not alone I have the same issues
hey. im high IQ too but not that high, and i dont have to deal with autism but i have "ADHD" out the wazoo, or whatever it really is. im sorry you've been bullied. i honestly can relate to autistic people sometimes. average people seem to think you guys dont have feelings or something lol but it isnt like that, i dont think. theres just so much logic happening that emotions seem to kind of get phased out of the equation. which honestly makes sense, a lot of the time.. but maybe it's that logic isn't really what rules the planet. humans do, and humans are super emotional.. and emotions only make sense in human terms. so you kind of have to play by those emotional rules. i also have to deal with depression, anxiety, etc. idk. i write a lot too, and make art, and people seem to connect emotionally which is strange because i dont often connect back unless the person is really "smart" but i dont know a better word for it. like you're into things that are so above most peoples' heads that there isnt really a point in talking to them or you're just going to upset them because they will think you're insulting their intelligence by trying to explain or talk about things.
I do not just relate to this post but resonate deeply with a near similar life (I was not IQ tested but many teachers told my parents to let me test out but they kept me back to learn social skills, which did not work as I was being bullied for being different)
All I can say is society was not built for intelligence, it was built for complacency. If they promoted intelligence there would be people getting better jobs than others because of genetics, governments would have to apply more skills because incompetency would be removed from all fields rapidly, and those of emotional intelligence would become greatly better paid for their work than athletes because true modern society has less use for wars and heavy lifting.
It is a world that I would love to be in, but we gotta realize that it is not the world we live in, and that is okay. We find joy in other things and we put our true effort into them. Dark and light days come and go. I assume you tunnel vision hard too, I know I have. We will make it through :)
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I've been together with a hi intelligent man for 20 years now and we struggle a lot with all these situations. Mental health is a mess, emotions are a mess. He can explain and predict situations like no one, and it is just awesome, but sometimes it is like dealing with a special needs child.
For us, give a chance for alternative paths in life is working better than trying to fit in. Not easy at all, but...
Hes probably an empath, and taking on everyones energy. Reiki therapy helped me greatly. I was a military air traffic controller for 10 years and took on everyones energy, then took it out on my wife and kids.
Look up High Functioning Autism.
@@dannyarcher6370 That's what I was thinking
@@brendensangster6975 I'm sorry. Thank you for sharing. I hope everything is good now.
Thank you for the insights, guys! We've been thinking about autism, but as I work with autistic children and my last boyfriend is in the spectrum, I don't think it is the case now, according to many tests and observations. His psychiatrist agrees he is between bipolar and ocd (very soft symptoms), but anxiety is the main problem now. The hi intelligence causes a non stoppable thinking and planning, making hard taking practical decisions.
I'm definitely going to look for Reiki, he has benefited himself from it before. And, of course medicine and therapy again.
I am very much introverted and have always been ahead of the standard for my grade. I was awkward and put up with typical gifted expectations. I learned to just not care. Can't really explain how other than I just forced myself to. I forced myself to laugh smile and talk to people and eventually learned to be more extroverted. I still need time to recharge and prefer small but close friendships. The best thing I learned was to trust my gut, thinking can only take you so far and if you don't know what to do, just do something even if you know nothing about it.
I can attest to all the struggles you describe. "High intelligence" is so narrow an area of life to have the impact that people led me to believe throughout my life. I appreciate the ability but the costs are so high and, at 30, I'm really only just starting the journey to pay that cost and start putting my ability to better use. I don't appreciate a society that is not in any way inclusive of outliers, in spite of how much it relies on them.
This video hits so hard. I have always been highly intelligent, but it does come with huge flaws in my case. I tend to set such high standards for myself, which certainly lead to my depression and anxiety. When I slip up even a little bit, I beat myself up for it (like, *literally* at one point). What's worse is that people around me (like my parents) have high expectations of me as well, so I cannot mess up without getting yelled at or feeling extremely bad.
You know what hurts the most, though? I participate in hobbies that not many people are particularly interested in (where I live, anyway). A lot of the activities and hobbies I like are foreign and not popular in the USA. This makes socializing difficult, ESPECIALLY when I try to get into a romantic relationship. It is way too hard for me to find a girlfriend, here.
If anyone reads this, please do not raise the bar so high so quickly. Take your time to improve and don't trash on yourself for messing up. You'll be a LOT happier this way, trust me.
"The answers to life's questions lie within you."
Don't know who first said this but they're right.
Sometimes you're too smart to care or feel. And that hurts in life quite a bit
That's a interesting statement, what makes you feel that way?
I know right 🥺, this statement just got me. I recently broke down, I just don't know how to get back up. Even though I look fine on the outside I wish someone really knew.
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@@theno1stnamenolastname362 why are you laughing? 😶.
It take a lot of courage to accept that you can't do everything and sometimes it's okay to ask for advices or help. The only way I personally understood that is by having a visual handicap I will be scared with for the rest of my life. It's annoying but someday I will have to cope with it and adapt more than I already do
A little bit of both actually. This video was very helpful, thank you. My anxiety is overwhelming sometimes and I struggle with brain fog everyday. There’s a lot of external pressure to succeed, and when I don’t things get pretty bleak.
This video practically sums up my life. Since the start of my puberty (today I'm 18) I have asked myself if my intelligence is a gift or curse. People often say to me that they would like to be that smart but I am even more jealous of being treated nicely instead of being pushed from society just because I am smart. I know that I am definitely not perfect and the problem could be in how I act, but after all those years it don't seem to me that I would be such a bad person. Anyway, I am not the type of person to write in comments on yt videos but this one took me personally, so big thanks for what you're doing Psych2go.
OMG SAME
Despite how nice, humble I try to be with people, my intelligence and moral standing still intimidates people and makes them very critical of me. Even my own family kinda puts me in a category of my own.
Is there a reason why you feel like your intelligence intimidates people?
@@Psych2go I can't always have conversations with them (like girls) without them losing interest, acting shady, defensive, or pulling away and we can be talking about regular stuff, nothing controversial. Also when I try to have good conversation with guys who are interested in me, they seem to not have much feedback or much to put into the conversation. My family always makes jokes about how my kids will be geniuses and whatnot, and I'm an oddball. If I make a mistake, it shocks people. Even if I show vulnerability or my raw side, it makes people uncomfortable many times or they're surprised. It's like I'm suppose to be a perfect robot. So along with my sweet/passionate side, people see my stoic side as well. I rarely meet people I can have a conducive conversation or connection with. Usually if I do it's with a much older person like an older man (15-20+); they don't fully understand me but seem to get it more than most others and seem more at my level if you will. I've been told I think differently a lot. Even when I was a teen, the adults in my old church were surprised by my intellect (to God be the Glory).
Yes I can relate to that...
I can relate to this. I’ve always felt like I had to be perfect for so long and I’ve realized more so recently perfection is an unattainable standard.
This reminds me of a conversation i had with a friend recently on he subject of how intelligent people often times want to use what they know to help, but lacking the emotional intelligence to apply it properly. It's really hard to pull oneself out of their natural state of beind result-driven when it comes to other people's lives. That's not always our friends' and loved ones' goal. They aren't always trying to find a quick, scientific solution to their problems. It can hurt when we try to help at times or in ways that it jist simply isn't asked for.
No matter who you are or what type of mind you have, it will always be a challenge to see eye to eye with people who see the world differently than you. As hard as it can be when you're excited and want to help, a little bit of patience and listening can go a long way. Even at times when i still don't understand where someone is coming from I try to draw myself a story in my head that might make me feel similar so that i can at least try.
I tend to try to do the same thing by putting myself in their shoes and seeing myself from their perspective so I can try to figure out what the best way to emotionally handle the situation is and what kind of support they need.
I agree 100%. I was born gifted, and I have a high I.Q. Thank you for your video. I have always hidden my intelligence, so I never became arrogant. I know I do not know everything, and I still have so much more to learn.
Same , everyone says so and a document says i am but I just feel really stupid
Same, I have high iq but very low ego lol. I always fear I'm honna get yelled at or shit for being "egotistical" when it couldn't be further from the truth
Same, but Im not born gifted. I lock up myself for a very long time and focus only on studies. When I try to socialize I end up doing some weird sht or behave the way that hurt people. Also I cant enjoy anything anymore I try to find a logic reason behind everything that I even forgot how to listen to music properly. I just cant stop my brain from overthinking everything to a tiniest detail. + I dont think Im smart at all. I cant even sit infront of desk for 2 hours for a single assignment, I get distracted or zone out after 2 mins
@@nerminiskenderli4656 and @Necron Lord and @Melon Mel. It feels so good to know there are other people like us, and we are not alone. Learning is fun.
oh yeah - the "let me help you" thing allowed me to socially survive highschool!🙄 The most difficult stuff to live with, though, was my family denigrating AND using my intelligence to negatively describe or target me - i.e. "mad professor", "girls arent supposed to be that smart" or the frequent "you're so weird" or "why are you interested in THAT stuff - you're crazy", heck I was repeatedly denigrated for even wanting to go to college! (i only got there, in my 30s! after completely leaving my family behind)
“A good head and good heart are always a formidable combination. But when you add to that a literate tongue or pen, then you have something very special.”
- Nelson Mandela
I like & agree with this statement, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the information😊 Good video👍
I feel this, I have to go through a lot, being in a gifted class, and I feel no one is there for me. I sort of suffer from depression (I suffer from various symptoms of major depression, though I haven't broken the two week threshold required to be diagnosed with it) and it's really a lot for me. It feels like life is against me, because I'm expected to do everything correctly, but I'm the worst at everything, but I feel barely anyone can really help me, and I'm scared to ask for help because I apparently live the perfect life, and because of this, I don't need a therapist, or a psychiatrist, or anyone else who would help me up. I always beat myself up for everything, and I just can't do anything about it, because my mentality is always like this. I've too many people, friends and family and such, to live for, so I can't let myself die, and I'm stuck in this infinite loop, all because I'm apparently intelligent, and whenever I have to deal with a situation, I'm just the needy smart kid who wants everything, and I just want to feel normal. I can't tell anyone I feel this way because I can't do anything. I just feel horrible all the time, and the last time I asked my mom about a therapist, about 5 months ago, she said the perfect kid doesn't need therapy. This was a while ago, so I have completely different problems, (The ones I mentioned throughout this comment) but that one discussion leaved me incapable of asking anyone who can help me for help.
I feel you. Recognizing that you are in this situation is a good thing. One thing that helped me in this situation is to find a friend who doesn't have these unrealistic expectations of you and just tell them how you feel about everything. Even if it doesn't solve anything, you don't have as much weight on your shoulders. Another thing that may help is letting go. Let go of people's expectations. If you can't get 150% on a test and they get mad at you for it, that 100% is not your fault. It isn't right for someone to force that pressure on others. You get a 98% on the most advanced class of your grade and they are mad you didn't get 100%, you need to tell them that they have unrealistic expectations and that you already are so great.
In video games, when you max out one stat and leave the rest to rot, you aren't going to do very well in the end. Stop forcing so many points into intelligence and start putting more in emotional stability.
If they can't accept that, they aren't your friends. Find people who really support you.
You are enough, don't let them tell you what you have to be.
@@dandragonx243 Thank you, this honestly helps
@@Thebandkid i agree with his point. Good that this helps. for me speaking to someone was the most helpful thing i was able to do.
@@gantneba Thank you for the advice, I'm glad people are looking out for me and trying to help
The good news is that you are far from perfect, because NO ONE is perfect! Being highly intelligent does not mean you have to achieve more than everyone else. It sounds to me like you are being raised in a performance-based environment, which is not healthy. Take the pressure off yourself and give yourself permission to BE normal even though your cognitive IQ is not. You are worthy and lovable no matter how much or how little you accomplish in life.
I don't "suffer" with mental illness I embrace it! Can't get any mental help anymore so have to overcome the issues on my own.
I have to work on managing my own ups and downs on my own and I've learnt to do it via reflection. I enjoy anxiety 🙃
Lol same. More like i want more disorders like schizophrenia and dissociative personality disorder. Hehe...
Ha I’m a relatively intelligent guy, but I’ve found that displaying it regularly (at least in primary school) just added expectations on me that I wasn’t particularly inclined to fulfill. I love making music and writing novels, but somehow ended up in the engineering program in college simply because I’m ‘smart’ and it was expected. My life went sideways and I got mentally ill, and the same thing is happening with me at the hospital (taking IT support in college though I have no desire to go in the first place, but I want to go home so I acquiesced). Just let people be people man
I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you find your way in life!
Yes people will push you in certain directions for sure.
A couple of months, I struggled with overthinking even more than I usually do and I went to seek help. At the same time, I’ve noticed a lot of similarities in me to some symptoms of ADHD. So I talked about that as well.
The therapist was helpful in pointing out that how I display those symptoms is not indicative of ADHD but more of high intelligence. I’ve talked to my parents and they confirmed they got me tested when I was young. I don’t remember the exact score but definitely high enough to be considered intelligent.
What I’d love to see is a video showing the similarities and differences between ADHD and intelligence.
I'll not comment overmuch on similarities versus differences, but I can tell you that ADD/ADHD and Mensa level IQ are by far not mutually exclusive. Moreover, many from EITHER group are quite capable of: being under stimulated by their environment; experiencing social awkwardness; manifesting intensely focused concentration for extended periods of time.
I have social anxiety since I was a child. I like to isolate myself from people. It was a curse. No one called me dumb but they said I'm mentally sick because of how I act. Sadly, my intelligence turned into a curse.
Same with me, I am an introvert with social anxiety and that's why I have no friend
No you not!! Really difficult to make friend that can understand you. Just like that I'm too isolate myself from people. And only interact with people when it's necessary
I've given the Mensa sample test and got a rough estimate of IQ 135. I had trouble forming friendships when I was a kid, but now that I'm older I've found a solution to Foster great relationships. It's honesty and authenticity, right from the very first day you meet them. If I date to marry and not just for a fling, I would say it out loud. It has worked so far, but who knows what the future will bring?
I got 129 in my test as a child. As an adult I find it easier to avoid interactions with other people as I find stupidity is the norm in the general public & this makes me extremely angry. I have very few friends & that's fine for me. Quality, not quantity is best. I don't need lots of people around me to validate myself. I find it difficult to interact with idiots, so I don't bother. I'm happy now. I wasn't when I was a child when interaction & acceptance was what appeared to be important. When I have no option but to interact with people, I remind myself that half of the people you will meet in your life are below average inteligence. Therefore they are blind & unable to understand why they are the way they are. So I bite my lip rather to avoid engaging with them. Works for me.
Hello fellow Mensa member
I really don't think general intelligence tests can be accurate even as a sort of bench mark. Intelligence shows itself in practice more than anything.
You can teach a guy with less than average intelligence how to score well on tests, but you can't teach them how to have more aptitude.
I joined Mensa in two of the places I've lived in my life. The gatherings were always a little weird. After seeing this video I can't help but wonder if it was because of all the low EQ gathered in the room ;)
I got a 125 and I'm 11 , is it sufficient for my age or above?
İ feel like the saddest part of being highly intelligent is the fact that you’ll barely meet anyone that understands your complex thinking, why you are critical about everything or your deep emotions. You’ll probably hide your intelligence and play dumb in order to have some people to talk to or you’ll be authentic and suffer loneliness.
I've grown up and still am in a relatively intelligent community, so I may not have to suffer so much as to hide my intelligence. But it's quite sad that it's very hard to find people who can understand the complexity of your thinking.
If you join a High IQ society, you'll spiral further into depression as you'll then learn that these issues aren't really related to cognitive ability. Plenty of High IQ people don't use their brains. The only thing we have in common is our cognitive ability, that doesn't mean we all nurtured it or use it and we definitely don't all think the same...... but you may find your tribe within the tribe
Your art overhaul has been very interesting, and neat! Looking good! Hope to see this channel continue to grow and do good research
The hardest part for me is realizing that I'm on a different wavelength from the average person. That means not only intelligence, but also awareness of the world, myself, and my place in it. It just makes it hard to click with people who give me blank stares or limited feedback. I'm ok now with having a small social circle, but it was tough when I was younger. I am very thankful for meeting a smart, introspective woman who gets me. Never be embarrassed of who you are and just keep searching for your significant other. ✌️
I've been told that I didn't live up to my full potential because I lacked the ambition to pursue it. I struggled with this for a while and even started questioning my decisions, doubting myself thinking the way I lived was wrong. I gave it some serious thought and now I can say to all those questioning my decision (including myself sometimes): "Sure, it would be nice if I can live up to my full potential, but I'd rather live a humble life I won't regret than a life pursuing perfection just to meet people's expectation of me... If life is a marathon anyway, I'd rather run on my own pace until the finish line than sprinting for others' excitement only to be burnt out midway..."
The more you know, the more you realize that you barely know anything.
indeed, thank you for this video❤❤.
As for the "seeking mental help" bit, that's only going with the assumption that the therapist would be perceived as smarter than the would-be patient. Being self aware has a cost when it comes to trying to convey that in ways for others to understand it. Getting someone up to speed on the "why" something is the way it is, or the cause of the problem, is time consuming. And if the therapist isn't properly equipped to address these mental issue, the patient may simply seek to solve it their self. Getting outside perspective can be useful, but sometimes bias in therapists can do more harm than good.
And as for the notion of pushing people away due to pride or arrogance, I wouldn't say that's the full reason. I can't speak for others with higher IQ, but keeping people out is the only way to keep them from hurting their self emotionally. It's not that help isn't wanted, it's that we can't be helped. It's a puzzle that only we understand, and only we can fix. Everyone is good at something, but unless the person is going through or has had the same experience, they can't directly help.
I can certainly relate to this. "Seeking help" is a painful experience as the therapist tends to be working in slow motion or providing an unsuitable suggestion.
Exactly, the one I related to is when I was asked what career I wanted to pursue, I said I wanted to be a psychologist and then I was told "I'm not living up to my full Potential" because I'm good at Math and Science
As an Engineer Student turned Paych student, let me just say Psych abt to use everything in your brain & then some just by it being vastly different from the world of 1 s & 0 s. The people who said that you will not be living up to your full potential probably thinks Psych as some hoo-hah. But the moment you realise that you need a mind in everything that you do, & is ready to question your world & everything about it it the search of your truest authentic self, then I say there is nothing more intruiging than the study of humans & our megabyte brains. Though I must say it is not a lifestyle for many given the high depression rate in this career, I will say you wont regret it teaching you many lifeskills and truly open your eyes if you do truly decide to be a student in it.
@@jinijinxed6839 thanks
People watch Rick and Morty once and suddenly they say they’re incredibly intelligent
High Intelligence is a gift for me and I am grateful for that,during childhood it was more like a challenge to me,I learnt many social skills at that age and when to truly use your intelligence..Overall I am grateful
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Thank you for this audio quality + not using music. Music is distracting
Ecclesiastes 1 17:18
17 Then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom, and also of madness and folly, but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the wind.
18 For with much wisdom comes much sorrow;
the more knowledge, the more grief.
I love these versicles, and can confirm everything in the video. Am autistic, have always been "smarter than average", but have depression, anxiety, PTSD, awful with interactions, have suicidal thoughts, and am in process of retirement at age 28 due to all that
This video totally suits me. I'm a high IQ person who usually takes people's constructive criticism too personally and I ended up not becoming the best student high school. Nowadays, I'm teaching math to people as a way to express my intelligence
that's dope how you're a teacher now, bro
@@hawkwomanh614 emotions about inputs from the outside and your reactions have nothing to do with being smart... you can be pretty smart and still take things to heart or overreacted when criticized... Knowing how to work with inputs like feedback and staying calm about it is a life-long learning...
Thank you. Alot of this lessons I've learned the hard way.
Thanks. This puts some things in perspective. It took me way too long to get over myself.
I can't figure out whether I actually am intelligent, because although all people tell me that I am, I myself feel pretty stupid quite often...
Have you tried taking a IQ test to see your score?
I once did a test and ‘did not score well’. One of the questions was ‘There are 9 birds in a tree. Two fly away. How many birds are there?’ which I answered with ‘Too many to count, there are a large number of birds on this planet’. My answer was marked as wrong.
@@Psych2go I did. After I was diagnosed with ADHD at 33, I had a colleague at work that is a psychologist and she said many times that I was the "most intelligent person at the company". I never believed that. But one day I took an online test. I was not on my meds, and talking with my parents at the same time, and scored a 128.
Still didn't convince me completely... So I relate with the OP a lot!
@@Psych2go for me personally IQ tests are in itself not good enough for intelligence, they are tests basically of some standard which categorizes people and this categorization in itself is kind of some sort of standard or " creates a box kind of situation " it's like confinement of one's intelligence to certain standards, and the standards makes feel like at one place but being intelligent means constantly evolving , going to upper level or sometimes to down level just explore and gain knowledge. So basically a standardized intelligence test may tell if a person is intelligent or not on basis of some sort of questions , but in those cases where people are trained to solve those questions of intelligence tests only , they are well trained but " not intelligent" in some sense .
I hope I have made some sense
Provide some more insightful thoughts to my interpretation of tests.
@@Psych2go not a professional one, I won't pay money for that. From my experience an IQ test does not really give a lot of insight into the actual intelligence when one is anywhere on the avarage range of the scale. Very dull or very sharp people can be distinguished fairly efficiently throught such tests, but I don't belong to any of those sides of the spectrum.
This was an interesting video since it provides information to further consider in detail. I especially found this part interesting: lower concentration of choline in the white matter. I wanna do further reading because I am not familiar with this. Personally, I believe that everyone is intelligent (although in different areas). However, it might be especially tiresome when someone has difficult time accepting previously set norms. If one’s mind is guided by the need to explore ideas, accepting things as they are is counterintuitive.
“Highly intelligent” has been used to describe me for a lot of my life. One of the areas I seem to struggle with is when I am in a group learning environment (ie. college courses or job training). When information is being given to the group, many people ask for clarification or to have information repeated. There is nothing (and I mean nothing) wrong with ensuring one’s self fully understands. However, I believe those working with a “higher intelligence” become more bored with the class and therefore we tend to let our minds wander and get distracted from the lesson. What do you think? Is this a possible side effect of higher intelligence?
First, thank you soooo very much Psych2go for this video. As a diagnosed highly intelligent person, who is regularly confronted with many of these aspects, this video gave me hope so that other people, who may not know how it feels like to be intelligent, now know a little bit more about the downsides.
I would like to give an advice for those intelligent people out there, who may be struggle seeing the good parts of being intelligent,
Most important, know that you are not alone. Many struggle and yes sometimes it is very hard to not see the burdening part. I myself know how difficult it can be.
Maybe try to find people who are also highly intelligent. Sometimes talking to those, who know how it can feel like, really helps.
Most countries have websites and organisations, who try to connect people and also share awareness and information about the topic of being an intelligent human being.
I hope, I could encourage some of you, to try and seek contact with others, and know, that you are not alone.
Glad this video could help you find support! Yes, definitely seek out communities out there who may be going through similar challenges :)
This hits hard on so many levels. Ouch.
I stay positive. If I were to get depressed I won't be there long because my attention deficit disorder. I started my education when I was 59 . I am now 65 and believe that I am smarter and sharper than I ever was. I believe it is because I like learning new things that keeps my brain tuned up and running at maximum capacity. Depending on the complexity of the new subject seems to make me feel a little bit scattered brain like quantum mechanics does to me. I wish I could find more people to discuss our reality and our consciousness. Most people are not even close to perceiving our true reality and the complexity of human consciousness which is the most complex system in the known universe. Here's one for you. Would you believe you are in three different places at one time with three separate independent consciousness. I have seen the three different separate Consciousness that I have and I'm now starting to believe there might be a fourth.
I haven’t watched this channel in a few months and gotta say this new animator is really good
To add to this, it's often difficult to interact with people that don't act/think logically or predictable. It's hard to accept illogical decisions, so working for someone and just accepting slow or impractical methods is rather difficult.
One upside is weird honestly. The thing is, I don’t feel emotions like I should, but I just know what I should be feeling and Ty to feel it.
Yes. Wow. Well written ‘article’. Even the comments below are the things I have tried putting into words for most of my life.
School always bored me to tears. Until I reached a few late high school/late college courses, I breezed through with minimal effort. That usually led to my ADHD getting me into trouble. I had a college-level reading comprehension skill in 3rd grade and could do complex high-school level algebra in 4th. Anything they had to teach me made perfect sense and, with a slight bit of practice, I was bored because it was easy. Then I hit calculus. Calculus has never made sense in my head and I’ve attempted to study it multiple ways from multiple sources. It just doesn’t click. That honestly destroyed my self-esteem for a long time. I was always one of the smartest people I knew until I wasn’t. That’s when I started shifting into using my book intelligence less and focusing on social intelligence (psychology, sociology, social patterns, etc). It’s my favorite subject now. People are so predictable, and it’s amazing to see how little tweaks to environments and stimuli can completely change how they interact. All of this to say, if you’re reading this and you don’t think you’re smart anymore because you always have been but something doesn’t make sense to you, it’s not that you’re not smart. You’re probably wicked smart. Some things just aren’t gonna click for you. And that’s okay. Do what you can to avoid those things and survive them if you must. Focus on learning what makes you happy and you’ll be always have a great time
I have a high/above average IQ and I have noticed the side effects of that over the course of my life. People tended to treat me differently due to me being the quiet one in the group and I was always very observant always having to look over my shoulder to make sure the next ass kicking was not around the corner. I kept track of how people moved, how people behaved and different situations and I became (in my eyes) an expert on body language by age 9 or 10. I never had a lot of friends and the friends that I did have I either had fillings outs with or we just grew apart as time went on. These side effects are not all bad though me watching everyone (and I mean everyone) and seeing how they responded on different situations made me also keep track of what people did when they were very confident and charismatic and I try to implement that into my life as much as I can, I notice that I am respected as that (occasional) quiet kid now, the key? Keep a steady frame, respect is heavy, if your frame is fragile you will crumble under the pressure to perform up to it. Learn to fight, no person (especially man) can defend his ideas and family while being physically weak and fragile, get in shape and learn to fight. And lastly, adopt black and white thinking, the curse of the intelligent mind is that is runs 100 miles a second and the simple thoughts might seem overwhelming, black and white thinking can (when warranted) ease the decision another thing that helps with decision making is stoicism but that is a whole different topic.
Being intelligent and being known to be "attractive". It more of a curse to be both. My mother puts me down so much.
My brain works in a way I overthink LITERALLY EVERYTHING. This year, I had truly strong panic attacks thanks to that, so I needed to start taking medicine because nothing was working with that problem. Now I'm way better, but the anxiety still there, just way way smaller
This is putting my shitty life on blast. I was born a programming prodigy, now I'm just old. I try to keep people from knowing that I have severe mental illnesses because they're afraid. Then there's trying to fit in socially and act like everything is alright. This video understates the severity of the loneliness and how it twists and warps your mind and leads to the darkest of days. I pray any of you who feel this way to get help. Because it's so painful.
I'm 47 with depression. I've spent my whole adult life convincing everyone I'm fine because, when someone asks how you are, no-one wants to hear that you're not ok. But the thing is, it is exhausting trying to keep up the illusion of normalcy. Taking anti-depressants, 3 different therapists, giving up on anti-depressants, giving up on said therapists, one suicide attempt later, and a couple of close calls and I'm now at the age where I don't care if I offend people. I speak my mind and if they don't like it, they shouldn't ask me or talk to me. I ask myself: "When I'm lying there in the last seconds of my life, will I care that I said something to someone". No, I won't. I largely want to be left alone. I still think that the way I leave this life will be through my own actions, but until then I'm just tired. To anyone who says it will get better, I envy you. To those with an opinion who don't have depression: Just don't. To TacoOblivion: You are not alone, buddy.
who are you to say "they are afraid". acting like you are alright is what is socially "standard". dont do it. be un-standard, be yourself. say "no im not fine today", if they ask why, tell them, if you wish, or not, you decide. may i suggest that you can say something like "no im not fine right now, but im working on it". i know the loneliness you are talking about, i've been there. or am there. for me, what gets me out of the downward spiral, is to focus on a passion i have. Dwelling in thoughts of the past brought me to depressive thoughts. Seeking glory in the future with a passion gives me motivation to keep on keeping on. This is what i want to suggest for you. I cannot tell you how to find it, that is in your hands.
@@gantneba Do you know about bipolar, schizoaffective, and schizophrenia? Yes, people are afraid of me saying that I hear voices telling me things or that I have long conversations with people in my head, but when I try to communicate with the actual person, they tell me they don't know what I'm talking about because I didn't actually have a conversation with them. And being bipolar, my mood was constantly shifting and with it the kinds of thoughts I would have. Everyone slowly abandons you because you can't be consistent or reliable. Nowadays, I take 5 pills at night and 3 in the morning and I function at a low level of independence, but I'm still cared for by my wife often.
Damn right
I learned early that if people know how intelligent you are then they expect things from you so it's better to pretend to be stupid. Only the few people closest to me know how smart I am but I don't play social games (at least no more than necessary) so people think I'm simple minded. I live my life inside my head and show only the shallowest of personality traits, I'm not here to entertain anyone. Anxiety and depression have plagued my overactive brain but I have found a few people who understand and who I can share with. I work but otherwise I live in solitude with my cat, I prefer to just be left alone. Intelligence without direction leads to a lifetime of frustration and antisocial behavior. I just don't care anymore, I can't, I don't have it in me, so I live a simple life with little human interaction and find peace in solitude.
Thats true
Lol my Lil bros good at that humble routine.
We're both pretty sharp guys but he's way better at playing dumb xD
i have all the signs of hight intelligence and asperger too
@@yahyaalaoui5827 , it seems that those two things go hand in hand. I was in my mid 40s before I even learned what autism was and it explained so much about my childhood. I've often wished I was stupid and happy, "normal" as it were but this is not the life I was given this go round.
it does get hard, i did multiple test growing up as a kid and found then i had an IQ of 130. but stress of school life, being bullied and 2 traumatizing relationships..... i've grown up issolated and depressed so would have lost a few point over the years....resulting in decades of socially anxiety that pretty well "crippled my social life".....working on it.
With the right stimulation it returns.
I must say quite relatable.
What 130 is genius? I did take a test in 2019 i think and I got 158
@@edcalwag7387 their mensa seems a little off, usually around 140 +
@@edcalwag7387 130IQ correspond to being in top 2.5%. 130iq is usually the treshold retained to consider someone as "gifted" or "very advanced". Keep in mind that IQ test are designed to asses a limited set of brain abilities and are not an absolute indicator of how intelligent/capable someone is.
Thanks for trying to help us.
Virtual hug....you get it! Also, your voice is so soothing.
"High IQ" is highly over-rated (as a predictor of success/life satisfaction) unless it's combined with creativity/emotional intelligence. It can be a handicap in life. Imagine if your hearing was more acute than the average person, how uncomfortable would you be? With *everything* ? It's exceedingly difficult for highly intelligent people to simply "forget themselves" and abandon themselves to the moment because they're painfully aware of themselves -and others. That's why drugs (especially alcohol) can be so dangerous, it's just such a quick fix, and it's poisonous and addictive (~as though you didn't know...) I heard about a man yesterday, who suffers from a chronic condition whereby he is *allergic to the sun* (Polymorphous Light Eruption (PMLE). What others take for granted and revel in, can be painful if you're "too sensitive" I love the quote "No one cares how much you know until they know how much you care." *Find ways to make others happier...*
Of the many different kinds of intelligence (pattern recognition, musical, emotional etc) the classic pattern recognition / mathematical IQ has a tendency to get you bullied in school, envied by peers and rejected by potential partners.
Above 160, the region where specialist IQ tests have to be designed because the standard ones don’t work, people often feel isolated from society and from their colleagues and peers. Specialist organisations and clubs do exist, such as the 999 society, but people in that range often do not ‘play well’ with each other.
I would happily drop 50 IQ points for a quieter life and more connection with my peers.
C'mon bro, you can't even spell Stephen, :P
I've always been the capable one, the one to save the day and get it done. Because of that, I tend to rely on myself too much and not enough on my support system. I've gotten better over the last few years, but I still revert back to the mindset of "it will be better if I just do it." That is disadvantageous in alot of circumstances
wow nice. I’ve been watching translated videos until now, but original is much better and creates another atmosphere. Like 👍
Sometimes i don't like having quite good intelligence, i feel bunches of pressure, i'm isolated quite alot, i have quite massive stress, anxiety and i may stress for some simple details for hours, it's not so fun as some people may think
The pressure of family & scholastics... There is a solid corillation between high IQs and ADHD. This is a huge factor because the adhd hinders us in ways our family /school don't understand and pressure us with, you can do better then this, your not trying hard enough, your just being lazy /stubborn! This corillation should be looked at as well, maybe a topic Idea? Great video though. Had me in tears as it hit close to home so to speak.
Relating to number 4, I am considered smart by other children at my school, which is something they like to talk about. Whenever I try to help my friends or share my knowledge with them, they say "Well you're just being a smart a**." or "You need to stop acting like you know everything!" Sometimes one of my friends would be talking about a topic such as History (which isn't something I'm very good at) and then I'll be confused and he will make fun of me for being stupid. This is part of the reason why I never ask about things when I'm confused at school. BTW, this kind of thing as happened to me at school before.
Thank you for reading this. Great job with the videos by the way.
Former gifted child here. I've shared my story a few times in various places, so I'll keep it brief. I had a knack for maths in my early years and gained a high aptitude for science in high school. Pretty much every other subject I had little to no success. The only ambition I ever felt was due to expectations of others and imagined expectation from myself. Due to this and other life experiences, stress was building, and half way through university, depression kicked my teeth in so hard they came out the other end. 9 years or so later, and I still haven't fully recovered and probably never will as my problems are too deep-rooted and my world view is heavily intertwined with my problems.
I cruised through school until l got into uni. The problem with being gifted is that we never learn how to study or put in effort to learn. In our younger years that's not an issue, l could pass almost any exam without ever opening the book or top the class having opened it the night before. But, get into uni and suddenly you need to be an independent learner who studies and put in effort outside of classes, it should be easy for us, but because we never had any reason to develop study skills it can be incredibly hard.
These days some psychologists think being gifted should be considered a developmental or learning disability, while we are more than capable of learning, we can't learn the skills we will need later in life by just going through the regular school system, we need to be taught in different ways that challenge us while we are still young.
In terms of coming to grips with personal failure, l've taken to considering myself incredibly stupid and it has totally changed my outlook both on life and towards myself. After being told how smart l was all my life and proving it many times, l have never come close to living up to the expectations l set for myself, so l decided l must be stupid and if lm stupid then l can't blame myself for my failures. It sounds weird but it really has helped a lot to get rid of the guilt and self hatred.
The thing that still gets me though is how much stupider most people are... Like yes lm stupid, but holly crap some people must have a lot of unused space in their heads.
never say never my friend. you need to learn how to ground yourself and destress. eser said then done ofc but there are many practices like meditation. also listening to people like sadhguru can help.
i cant stand math but i love stuff like quantum mechanics and other fields. duse to some life sircomstances i cant get any jobs that would make me happy so my depression is from the thought of becomming homeless cause i cant just do macdonalds for a living.
however i do love helping people so if you ever wana chat, let me know
I can relate to this. For my part, I've always had a pretty good ability to learn/adapt so I ended up being more of a jack of all trades rather than a specialist. I still developed a very clear interest in computers while paradoxically having an aversion to maths (now fixed). People have always expected me to go into the CS field, which I ended up doing, only to realize later that I don't fully enjoy it as a job. I'd tinker with niche techs or try to understand lower level programming for hours on end but if you ask me to make a website, I'd be like: "Oh boy, what a chore".
The constant feeling of not being understood, not being seen for who I am, having accute empathy while being faced with emotional indifference or having to pretend being dumber as to not be cast aside (which did happen many times anyway) has led to deep depression that I've struggled with for years, and still do today even if it got better.
I have had to grow a lot more stoic because of all these factors otherwise I wouldn't be able to live relatively normally today.
Gifted 😂 flesh, blood, cells, DNA same as everyone else.
@@mrnice7570 I know. I wasn't saying I considered myself gifted, everyone around me did.
It's quite a gift but it gets hard at times. Like for example, I get called a walking calculator, which makes it seem like im bragging. And everyone in my group projects makes me do all the work for them. Its hard being the person everyone relies on, as if you know everything in the world, but you really don't.
You know how much you don't know cuz your sight is vast, meanwhile your group see that you know beyond their imagination that will make you a super smart to them
We never push people away from pride or arrogance we just do not understand why you don't see the obvious(often despite detailed fact-based explanations) and are tired of trying to explain. One thing most truly intelligent(regardless of "education") people I know share is the awareness that we KNOW so very little and can always learn something new
I find myself watching lots of this kind of videos and wonder whether I'm pretty intelligent or just full of myself.
Sure feels good to hear things that resonate, yet most of it could appeal to just about anyone.
I had a friend (no longer) who was an intellectual narcissist. He loved to put himself higher than everyone, even boasting about his IQ. Although he was in our high school's top 5, his "IQ" was way too high for the scale ... (and much higher than famous geniuses). He would mention it especially if other people questioned him. He ended up living a very dysfunctional life. I don't know what happened to make him be that way when he could have been very productive. Probably his parents, who were elitists themselves.
as ironic as that may sound, I think he was insecure about his intelligence and not only trying to prove it to others, but most of all to himself. Scoring an IQ test that high comes with immense pressure to not come across as dumb at any moment, which is impossible. I can feel that, I was always regarded as very intelligent by my peers and I remember I'd rather be quiet in fear of saying something stupid. I can easily imagine someone dealing with it by assuring everyone of their intelligence very annoyingly. Not an excuse of course, most annoying people don't realize they're annoying
I tested 153 in High School and wasn’t intellectually challenged until years later. As I get older I realize just how much I don’t know.
for so long, now i just watch to listed to your soothing voice
Love your video
Being highly intelligent and being around a lot of people is an abominable combination, because you are just one of many assets people feel like they own; often times, I find that even I have to remind people that not all my hours can be bought, some things matter more to me than money; people will invade your space and boundaries to get you to do things. If people don’t solve their problems, they will always be dependent on someone else for something they can do for themselves. I’ve learned to work with groups, but it’s difficult to find the right ones due to my location. All my life I thought most people were much smarter on average; I think most of us here has come to find that we were a tad wrong 😅
I like how you put Rick Sanchez in the thumbnail, perfect representation of the topic! Rick might be my favorite character ever.
EDIT: this video really hit home for me.
Thank you. Totally agree.
Hello. I was diagnosed with high IQ as a child. While it does make my job a bit easier, I’ve also struggled with mental illness and poor social skills as a result. It’s more of a curse than it is a blessing.
I am a 30 yr old African American,during my childhood I would be trying to explain logic and reasoning to my friends. I knew my thoughts worked very differently. I would have these deep self monologues that nearly drove me crazy 😆 I also won a state writing contest in the 4th grade. I have a 145 IQ. It’s okay to be different,self acceptance comes with time.
I have deep self monologues all the time. I only have a 126 IQ, so nothing crazy, but I'm HIGHLY interested in logic, and I find it difficult to succeed in a capitalist society where logic is not only undervalued, but downright a near disadvantage unless you can figure out an idea that will lead to generating TONS of revenue. Unfortunately, I'm not creative enough to do that, so generating revenue has been extraordinarily difficult for me, and I feel like I don't even exist to the world most of the time. Life has really sucked as a somewhat intelligent person living in a world full of extreme delusion and bullshit!
@@yk-who-it-is I would say this. The objective goal of education should be to learn a skill that can help contribute positively in some way to our overall goal of understanding the nature of our reality in order to manipulate it to our collective benefit.
STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) are our best tools for understanding existence and using that knowledge to build better tools for learning more and, subsequently, developing products and services that transform our lives. Figure out what inspires you and go AT IT!
As a fairly intelligent person, the idea that higher intelligence tracks with decreased stress mitigation in the brain makes a lot of sense. My own situation eventually developed into a defense mechanism that helped greatly in deaing with the ostracism of those who couldn't accept someone who was different than them, and I took on a Bhudda-like attitude, no longer caring about others opinions. Unfortunatly, this only deepened into antisocial behavior in the form of avoidance, and every incident that would pirce the walls I had erected only deepened my desire to keep my distance from others. This has now gotten severe enough that I find it nearly impossible to even seek out gainful employment, and it has become opposed by a deepening loneliness. We all have difficulty making friends as adults, but for those of us who had difficulty making friends to begin with, it becomes a real struggle just to find value and meaning in daily life.
I hope your able to find some people you can share hobbies and interests with soon. As a person who never had issues making friends, I was already extreamly independent and lonely. I'm introverted and semi-antisocial. If your not a close friend I avoid all conversations and small talk if possible. It's not an ego thing, I just don't see the point in small talk most of the time. I usually do it for other people to feel accepted in an environment. But I also have a couple of very close friends who think similarly, They're people I can rant to, people I can feel at peace with, I always tense up with anyone around me even if I know them. The only way I won't is if we have a deeper bond. Anyways I think you should continue being yourself, and eventually someone smarter will come around and see your value as a friend. Out of all my thinking, trying to make sense of the world around us and our emotions, I truly think loneliness is the hardest thing to overcome. It can alter your life so much if you don't gain control of it. As an introvert loneliness is something I've grown to be ok with, but after a long time, it still starts to swallow you up. Good luck on your journey 🤟