15 Reasons Buffy Should've Chosen Spike
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- Sarah Michelle Gellar has said before she's Team Angel, here's why she should be Team Spike.
Welcome to Next of Ken and in this episode, we're counting down 15 Reasons Why Buffy Should've Chosen Spike. From his killer body to his ironic sense of wit to his ability to rock a 70s punk look, Spike is the ultimate bad boy and after all these years, he still makes us swoon.
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"out. for. a. walk.....bitch" i laughed so hard
Kelly Macpherson I love that line.
me too, it's perfect
Kelly Macpherson I read that right as it played
This line never gets old, I actually literally have a custom tshirt made with the line 😂
My reasoning for Spike over Angel. Spike loves Buffy without his soul; Angel tries to kill Buffy without his soul.
yup that's true but you don't know anything about buffyverse vampire.
Among a million other reasons, this is also one of them.. Spuffy Forever..
Yea that's a solid point
@Il Selvaggio
So what? Hes was a soulless vampire, by default hes evil. He started small, but had his own rules.
He was becoming good without a soul, then he saw he needed his soul to get it right.
So he goes through the demon trails, gets his soul back for the woman he loves, and finally becomes the good guy he was meant to be.
@Il Selvaggio there were signs that he was into her before the chip it was just more noticeable with the chip in. Because the chip was is before a real muzzle / collar without a soul he couldn't distinguish it between territorial infatuation and actual love. It wasn't that he was incapable of it is that he wasn't able to understand what it is to be in love.
It's the whole definition Animal pack mentality of love vs. human definition of love. With the vampires being a mix of animal and human being that without a soul there more prone to instinctual actions versus the higher thought that they are still technically capable of.
When Spike was on screen, he instantly drew your attention, but when Angel was on, you sat and waited for something to happen. Spike could entertain with just his quips and charm. Angel needed something else in the scene to work with in order to hold your attention.
I know man It sucks out of the two I think Marsters is a much more well rounded actor. Hell his Brit accent is flawless I know because I've lived amongst them most of my life & when you compare Angelus's Irish accent to any real Irishman's its fucking terrible. Marsters is that good an actor his British accent in the show sounds more authentic than his real life American accent lol
Stewart Damien Personally, as a Brit from East London- where Spike is supposedly from- I really didn't find James Marsters' accent convincing at all but who cares...? He's so pretty... 😂😂😂
Humaira Ahmed I've actually heard a lot of English people who do sound like him but yes regionally it does sound wrong but yep. James is a looker lol
Humaira Ahmed actually..Spikes accent isn't his real accent. The backstory reveals he made up the Spike persona. His real accent was completely different.
Keith Lucas I'm guessing you're probably a straight male because to be honest all he had to do was take off his shirt. It's Hollywood. He's hot. Good actor or not, Boreanaz was always going to get his own show.
you missed the part where Spike, without a soul, endured hours of horrific torture at the hands of Glory to keep Dawns secret, so Buffy pretends to be the Buffy-bot to find out if he told Glory anything and when she finds out he never broke she rewards him with a kiss
that scene was *mwah* perfect
Ghtyyu Ytuuu More importantly, he demands that “Buffy-bot” never tell Glory about Dawn because he knew it would destroy Buffy if anything happened to her little sister. And he could never bear knowing that he caused her so much pain.
@@ztslovebird SPIKE: "Where's my robot?"
BUFFY: "In pieces!"
SPIKE: "It was-"
BUFFY: "It was gross and disgusting and... That _thing_ was not real! What you did tonight for Dawn and me... *That was real.* I won't forget it..." (Or words to that effect...)
YES!
I'm not a diehard Spuffy, but even that one makes me sob like a baby.
1) he's hot
2) he's a complete romantic
3) he's funny as hell
4) he's got great taste in music
5) he's always faithful to his lady love
6) he's chivalrous to ladies he cares for
7) he rarely whines
8) no cromagnon brow
9) looks cute even when his hair gets missed
10) he cuddles
11) he's kinky sometimes
12) dresses better than Angel
13) he's smart
14) he likes Passions (anyone else who likes that show gets a plus in my book)
15) he's got that sexy little scar in his eyebrow.
I have a bunch more but the number was 15 so I'll leave it at that
🥰🥰🥰🥰
He also tries to rape her
@@rebeccatenney7641 (i don’t condone rape) the bathroom scene, a)spike didn’t have a soul b)everytime buffy and spike had sex it started with some sort of fight so spike didn’t think much of buffys body language until it was too late c)if you hate spike for this you should hate buffy too, she was manipulative and used him.
@@mobiusenthusiast Did she try to rape him?
@@rebeccatenney7641 when she was invisible, kinda
Any adult person on here choosing Bangel over Spuffy needs to rewatch the show and pay attention. You have to put them on equal playing fields, not compare Soul Angel to Soulless Spike:
Soulless Angel vs Soulless Spike: Angel tried to kill Buffy and all her friends and DID kill Ms. Calender without any remorse. He relished in it. Spike was a villain but never as evil as Angel. He attempted (not succeeded) to rape Buffy and immediately felt remorse and was so sickened by his actions he fought like hell to get a soul...FOR HER. Because he loved her even though his demon self should make him do the contrary.
Soul Angel vs. Soul Spike: Angel stalks a 15 yr old girl from the shadows, eventually sleeps with her (statutory much?), and basically walks around brooding all the time and staring into each other's eyes. Just a teen romance fantasy. Boring! Spike never forces her into anything ever again. He still loves her and is willing to show that through friendship or less, whatever she wants. They have a mature and dynamic relationship and friendship. He becomes a champion & helps her save the world, again, by sacrificing his own life. #SWOON!
Human Angel vs Human Spike: Angel is a drunken, sexist, pig disowned by his family (who he eventually murders btw). Spike is a sweet, slightly pathetic, hopeless romantic writing poetry and caring for his ailing mother.
Summary: Spike is ALWAYS the better man in each case. and the whole "rape is unforgivable" thing, imo it works in the real world but not with BTVS and soulless demons. Buffy played way too many games (sleeping with him and emotionally abusing him) and at the time they had that weird sexual violence thing going,...again, with a DEMON. Not too smart. Even still, he knew he was wrong, redeemed himself, and btw they end up together anyway so yeah, let that go.
Exactly!!. SPIKE WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER THAN ANGEL!!
THANK you. Spike was always the better person. He proved he could be a better person (but not a perfect one) even without a soul. Angel proved that the ONLY thing making him a good person is the gypsy curse. As soon as the curse breaks, he's so evil even soulless Spike is a bit disgusted by him. Unlike soulless Spike, Angelus never, ever had the urge to make things right when he fucked up, like when Spike almost raped Buffy and went to get his soul back. Angelus would have never done that. He would have gone ahead with it and would not have stopped when Buffy shoved him back.
And yes, it all stems from who they were as people before they became vampires. Liam was, as you said, a pig and a violent alcoholic. William was a gentle soul with a romantic streak a mile wide. Their human natures influenced who they'd be as vampires. Angelus was made an even worse pig than before and instead of relying on booze, he relied solely on the high of torturing and killing people. Spike did have all the violent urges that any vampire has, and enjoyed killing, but he still had the romantic streak in him and had the ability to eventually unlearn most of what Angelus taught him and learned to focus his violence in the right direction. Angelus would NEVER do that, and it had nothing to do with not having a soul. He didn't WANT to.
This ^ you understand the characters at the same level that I do. And Angelus raped girls too and then murder them because he was soulless. I mean even soulless spike fought against his inner demon
not to mention that even when spike turned into a vampire unlike angel who killed his whole family including a sister he loved spike just wanted his mom to live forever and be with him spike always had the capacity to love even without a soul wheras angel didn't and the proof is that they both had someone they loved spike had his mom and angel had his sister but when they both lost their souls angel killed his sister and spike only wanted to be with his mother and then later he really loved dru and would do anything for her whereas I really don't think angeles loved Darla and then later spike cared about buffy and dawn and joyce without his soul but angeles has never cared about anyone without a soul
Buffy in season 7 "I loved him (Angel) more than i will love anything in this life". Joss Whedon about Bangel "This is the geatest love story i ever wrotte. Can't writte a better one"....even if you wer rught that spike would be the better man (an i disagree), her heart and her soul belong to Angel. That's what the buffyvee is about, two champions (the vampire with a soul and the geratest slayer, as it said in the prophecy), two soulmates.
one of my favorite spike lines, " I may be loves bitch, but at least i'm man enough to admit it". you tell'em spike!
Which is Spike in a nutshell--he owned his mistakes, didn't blame it on an alternate personality that was probably just a construct created so Angel didn't off himself. If it's all Angelus's fault, who can blame Angel?
He might be a "bloody awful poet" but he can find the right words when he needs to.
Yesss
Spike was just hopelessly cool!!
Spike said that because he was in love with Drusilla. Spike said that to Buffy and Angel because he could see it in their eyes that they were still in love with each other as well. And still are, may I add.
"I may be Love's bitch but at least I'm man enough to admit it"
Spike is such a magnificent character
Spike has a sense of humor. Angel...not so much. Sure, the very occasional funny moment, but we lived for Spike's sarcasm.
in buffy he was boring but in angel he actually was funny
@@leaf111 Yeah, I feel like when Buffy is around he's the stereotypical brooding vampire. But when he's around his friends in "Angel" he's the socially awkward guy who makes bad jokes. I prefer the latter, honestly.
Shannon Richardson yeah exactly!!
Angle is so depressing and could care for Buffy without a soul
@@shannonrichardson5129 What happened while Buffy and Angel, is their tones mirrored each other. When Buffy was being dark and serious, Angel was funny and light, and vice versa.
It's pretty simple, spike loved buffy even without a soul and he fought for a soul FOR her. Angel only loves buffy because of his curse and the minute the curse is gone he tries to torture her sadistically into insanity before killing her. Of course spike should have been the one. That isn't to say I don't love Angel, I do, I just think I love spike that little bit more
Totally agree. I take the video with a grain of salt. Those are not the reasons why Buffy/Sarah should've chosen Spike. What you said is the reason why. They should have conveyed that through scenes in this video. And what Sarah said doesn't matter, because Spike and Buffy are a thing in the comics anyway. So, suck it, Angel. Kidding. ;P
Spike didn't go out and get his soul because of Buffy. That was writer's revising the scripts in order to satisfy the audience's wants. It is very clearly stated in the episodes Seeing Red and Villians of season 6, that Spike went through all these trials in order to get the chip out of his head, so that he could revert back to his old self as a vampire. The demon tricks him and gives him his soul instead. I hate how in season 7 of Buffy, Season 5 of Angel and even Joss in interviews says that he went and fought for his soul. No he didn't. He was fighting to get the chip out.
SPIKE: (In a menacing voice) Get nice and comfy, Slayer. I'll be back. And when I do ... things are gonna change.
DEMON: Something about a woman. The slayer.
SPIKE: (nods, barely concealed anger) Thinks she's better than me. Ever since I got this bleeding chip in my head, things ain't been right. Everything's gone to hell.
DEMON: Look what she's reduced you to.
SPIKE: It's this bloody chip-
SPIKE: Bitch is gonna see a change.
Emmie Ana Ray So true. I remember re-watching and going "hey, so Spike fell in love with her while having no soul...and Angel...."
😕 lol
Emmie Ana Ray p
Alex H The way I took it, Spike only SAID he was fighting to get the chip out, when he finally got his soul back, that's when you knew what he was really fighting for.
The way I took Spike saying things are gonna change (when he gets back), yes, he was angry, but the way I saw that was that he was angry at himself most of all and also, he was even more hurt, and probably ashamed, than angry, for what he had almost done to the woman he loved.
Even when he said "Bitch is gonna see a change", I feel like he was saying that when he got his soul, he would be good enough for her then.
Funny how different people see the same thing differently. :)
When Spike burns himself on a cross and says "Can we rest now?.... Buffy? Can we rest?" after Buff learns Spike got his soul back. Makes me cry like a stupid river.
Agreed
Damn Spike, he was the only reason I watched Buffy, I miss Spike.
Yeah why settle for the taste of cardboard when you can spice it up with some burba root, right?
+Simon Frederiksen I guess you cud but I have never tried that so I assume it is better than the hack Angel.
Same 8(
he's not dead he's on Angel
Where he was awesome, but Buffy missed out on opportunity here.
Still blows my mind that James is not English... he sounds more natural with his English accent than when he takes his American accent.
Sabrina Same! But I guess that's just really good acting.
Conspiracy: he is British but his American accent is fake
I know I was sooo shocked when I heard his real accent!!
Giles actor helped a lot I’ve been told.
I know. It makes me laugh that when on TV people still tell him to talk English, not American IN ENGLAND! lol
"And you have stupid hair." 😂😂😂
Caroline W. Spikey seems to have a thing about hair... He programmed BuffyBot to say "Angel's lame. His hair goes straight up and he's bloody stupid."
BuffyBot's comment on Angel's hair was hilarious..
So good! haha
5 world or less and he say out for a walk.b*tch 🤣😂🤣😂don’t you just love him
What is the Number of the episode?
Buffy and Angel was cute at first, and they'll always have a cute love for each other, but SPIKE WAS PERFECT! He was sarcastic and rude and romantic when he needed to be. Absolutely perfect for Buffy! ...and not broody 98% of the time...
Exactly. Angel was boring even though I admit Angelus was cool but thinking about it Spike caused more damage when he was evil as he killed 2 slayers Angel didn't kill one lol
Also Spike is hot af so you know - that helps too
Thorins Oakenshield of Aznag Spike actually to an interest in the people Buffy care about. Spike care about Buffy's mother and Buffy's sister Dawn. He also cared about her friends.
"SPIKE WAS PERFECT! "
Have you...have you watched...ANY of the show? Seeing Red?
He was perfect?!! Are you fucking kidding me? He almost raped her!
This list could be waaaaaaaay longer. Personal fav moment. Spike goes with a shotgun to Buffy's house to kill her, finds her out back crying about her mom's diagnosis... he sits down next to Buffy and just stays there so she isn't alone.
And that was without a soul. Imagine if it was Angelus in the same situation. Buffy would have been grabbed, tortured, raped and if he could manage it, killed.
No, Soulless Angel wouldn't have killed her so easily. Remember what he did to Dru, and he had only liked her. He had loved Buffy. He would've kept her alive for a long time and played twisted games with her, killed her friends and family, and then he would have turned her.
Exactly! And where on earth is Angel or even Riley Finn during that whole time? I mean... is Riley seriously STILL out in the jungle? Or did they turn him back into a government rat again?!? And there doesn't seem to be any real reference as to where Angel is even. Why not???... That's the question I wanna know!
@@atosakiestrada6163 Huh? Angel was killed by buffy.... She had to kill him that's where he has been this whole time.
Yeah that’s one of my fave moments, it’s so cute and just makes me cringe inside with shipping Spuffy...ness
"You were cursed with a soul, I fought for mine" or a paraphrase thereof.....Spike had far more humanity, even as a demon, than Angel ever did.
That's a lie
@@neumanasare8864 nope) that was in the show)
@@jellystar9033 him saying spike had more humanity than angel is a complete lie.. at least angel felt remorse after gotten the soul unlike spike.. I seriously can't differentiate between soulless spike and spike with soul
@@neumanasare8864 Joss knows better, Angel as a human was pig unlike spike, soilless Angel was pig unlike spike)
@@neumanasare8864 The way they wrote Spike on Angel undid a lot of the character development he went through on Buffy S7. But, Angel wasn't much better right after he got his soul. He rejoined the vampires and tried to fit in with all the murdering, helped them out. Even though Angel knew about slayers and that he could fight evil if he chose. Right after Spike got his soul, Spike tried to atone, to help Buffy, and because he sensed danger. He didn't plan to stay, knowing it would trigger her, but she was in danger. It was only when The First made him crazy that he let his secret out. He wasn't doing it for credit or a pat on the head. But he was still brash, impulsive, still trying to integrate the soul with the demon in him. Not a fuzzy puppy by any means, but certainly a better man.
And the actual reason, he got his soul for her.
Totally! I was so disappointed when SMG said that, as Buffy, would chose Angel. And JM said that Spike is evil. No - WAS! He changed so much, how could they not see it.
Who cares what they said - it's much more important what WE think of Spike ))) We are the true and final judges because the show was made for us.
He tried to rape her and then got a soul because he thought that would force her to love him (and thereby continue to reciprocate his sexual advances). So now she owes him love. Right? I enjoy Spike's character, but Buffy owed him nothing.
I'm with you on that - I never thought he got his soul back for her - as far as I understood, he went to get his own vampire self back, who didn't care for nobody, because love hurt too much and he wanted to get rid of it. I always felt, that getting back his soul was a bad joke on him. I'm not doing a great job explaining what I mean ... ;-)
I think he did do it for Buffy. Before Drusilla got hold of him he was a sensitive soul who wrote bad poetry. He truly liked Buffy’s mom because she was nice to him and was saddened by her death. Even when he was at his most evil he’d occasionally slip up and do something noble - like let Glory beat him to a pulp instead of telling her Dawn was the Key. And when Buffy confronted him in the church when he was first “resouled” he was, honestly, too screwed up in the head to lie about why he’d done it.
The scene in the cript after he gets his soul back (s7 ep2) should be on the list...
"Why does a man do what he mustn't? For her. To be hers."
I love Spike!
Spike dubbing Angel and that lady's conversation had me in tears. I'd never seen that scene before XD
Me neither but it makes me wanna watch Angel.
DEFINATELY go and watch Angel! It has its rough patches (stupid Conner!), but it's still an amazing show, and at its best, I'd say it's even better than Buffy. Plus, more Spike! :)
catlover12670 I did watch the first few episodes. It seemed okay to me but I didn't like it as much as Buffy. It felt like something was lacking. I watched Spike's scenes in season 5 on CZcams and it seems so much better, but then Josh had more time to focus on angel in this. I sometimes just want to skip to season 5 😜 because I LOVE Spike. I can't get enough of him.
I am also listening to James' Dresden files Audiobooks. I'm in LOVE with his voice. I've already finished 7 books.
xD I was watching angel from season one, and once i got to season 2 i said 'eff this' and skipped to 5. I've seen em all when they first aired, so its not like im missing something.
Its in the early episodes but is classic spike at his best
Spike is handsome, sexy, funny, protector, expressive, fragile, in love, a good lover
@Pootis Spencer nobody is perfect but for me he is
Spike was the one who needed his own show, not the brooding pup. I mean, the man was boring, okay? YES I SAID IT. ANGEL WAS BORING. All he had going for him was his evil side but come on, that'd make anyone interesting. Spike though... Spike had it all.
I mean, Joss was even flirting with the idea of having Spike appear on a Firefly episode, in a bar, saying "Nothing changes. Trust me, nothing changes." He didn't say he'd do it. But he picked Spike though, so. Ya know. Suck it, Angel.
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Yeah I mean David Boreanaz is a great actor & a really nice guy, but Angel was just such a terrible character. Nobody could play that character well.
You speak the truth. So much broody-ness. I keep thinking of names/faces and putting them in brood-mode and boy, they all turn bland and boring *snaps fingers* like /that/! xD
I agree with you. Angel is boring guy, and not attractive at all. And great comment.
Lynsey Jones Yey! *bows* Thank you! \>///
+ Vimpixra It's not that he was a bad character but that back then David wasn't a great actor. He was basically spotted on the street and picked because he was hot. I will agree he has got a lot better though and in Bones you never once think of him as Angel.
I think if you have a good actor then even one dimensional throw away characters can be good and Spike is a great example. As everyone knows he was only supposed to be on the show for a few episodes but James did so well with the material he had. I think that and the chemistry he had with the others especially SMG made them realise he could be more than a throw away. On the flip side of David, when you see James now, it's like it's always a version of Spike he is playing.
Great list, but you missed my favorite!
"I've been alive a bit longer than you, and dead a lot longer than that. I've seen things you couldn't imagine, and done things I'd prefer you didn't. I don't exactly have a reputation for being a thinker; I follow my blood, which doesn't exactly rush in the direction of my brain. So I make a lot of mistakes. A lot of wrong bloody calls. A hundred plus years, and there's only one thing I've ever been sure of. You. Hey, look at me. I'm not asking you for anything. When I say I love you, it's not because I want you, or because I can't have you - it has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try... I've seen your kindness, and your strength, I've seen the best and the worst of you and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.."
Spike also cared about, spent time with, and helped her family. He took care of Dawn before and after Buffy's death.
"A bear! YOU MADE A BEAR!"
Nina Terzyan undo it, undo it 😂😂😂
I DIDN'T MEAN TO
I love that episode. Pangs would be a mediocre episode at best without Spike. He made that episode great despite the uncomfortable American Indian subject matter. Marsters is a wonderful actor and excels at both comedy and drama in equal measure. ❤ he really should have gotten a spin off.
Buffy did choose Spike in the end, if you think about it. At first she hated him, but she learned to trust him, and in the final episodes she realized she loved him. if you watch the last episode, pay attention to the last thing she says. "Spike." Spuffy is my favorite ship of all time x) Spike should've gotten a show; he was an amazing character
What about the whole cookie dough speech with Angel?
@@debraannfreeman2601 The cookie dough speech happened before Buffy knew Spike was going to sacrifice his life to save everyone with the amulet. When she realized how selfless he had become (which was mainly after the convo with angel), she told him she loved him and ultimately chose him. but then he died :((
In the comic seasons they end up together. So she chose him in the end.
@@cindyamaral3949 they break up as it doesn't work so.......
Yeah the last thing she says to spike before he dies he immediately knows shes lying. She kept him around because he was stronger than everyone save willow until she released the power of the scyth.
I've watched both 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' and 'Angel'. Trust me, there's more than 15 reasons.
All the "you're the one" scene, the "Rest in Peace" song, "it pinches" scene ... OMG, after all these years, still really like him!
I know right
Randy Giles was the absolute best.
maramuldoon Lol I knew there was a reason I hated you 😀.
Spike felt so bad for the attempted rape he did so he was angry and went across the world to find a demon and he went threw painful trails to GET his soul back to be a better man not just for her but in general and of course for awhile it made him crazy cuz having a soul made him feel all the guilt of all the killings he had done in his long life to innocent people .
He went across the world so he could find a way to "give buffy what she deserved" he wanted to kill her. The demon chose she deserved spike with a soul
Kasterwill 1023
No he was always trying to get his soul back, they just made his dialogue purposely misleading, by saying it angrily. Right when he finishes his trials he changes his tone which shows he knew the whole time that he the demon returned souls.
I have always loved Spike for so many reasons. I even love William. He has the heart of a poet who truly gives himself to love. The best thing about Spike is that he never leaves no matter what and Angels is pouffer who left Buffy. He just cries in his cups about his guilt for his bad behavior that a demon did -- not him. I always thought that was ridiculous. If I left my body and something else did evil in it while I wasn't there I wouldn't feel guillty at all.
Two top moments forgotten from this list. 1/ in the church (season 7) when Buffy finds out Spike has his soul back and, 2/ (season 7) when Spike gives the most loving and romantic speech to Buffy why he loves her 'l've seen the best and the worst of you...you're the one Buffy.' And honourable mention -- Spike loves Buffy even without a soul, for years even tho she doesn't reciprocate
Buffy should have chosen Spike because he respected her as his equal
In the last few episodes, both Buffy and Spike learned to love each other purely and completely. It was often Spike told Buffy he loved her, and she would deny it, saying, "No you don't." Well, in the last episode she finally looks at him like he held the earth and takes initiative to say she loves him and he returns that with "No you don't." They had a deep connection like Giles said, and I think they truly loved one another by the end. Even when Spike is resurrected in Angel, he says "you don't know what we had". Spike learned to love with or without a soul breaking every barrier.
The number one reason Buffy should've chosen Spike: Buffy made Spike have a soul when at the time, he didn't even have one. Angel without a Soul was a ruthless killing machine. Spike without a Soul went through hell to get one, because of how madly he was in love with Buffy.
GOD I miss Spike!! More guys should consider the whole Billy Idol thing. MeOW. lol
The guy is well into his 50's & has barely aged lol
Good grief, NO!!! Can you imagine round, chubby teddy bears with platinum blonde cropped curls,tight blue jeans and sleeveless top? How many men are built like James Marsters, and have the utterly beautiful sculpted facial features that he has/had? He is the one-and-only.
And my mother scoffed at me when I said Billy Idol was hot. He is still hot.
God I miss the show, Spike was hilarious & more likable than Angel. Who was Angel really? A miserable, goody two shoes who was pretty much a eunuch. Now Angelus was cool. But Spike even with a soul was funny & snarky pretty much more entertaining too
I love how humorous and sarcastic Spike is, always will be one of my favorites in the show!
In a way, she did choose him. She chose to have Spike during the final battle with her because she knew that he loved her more than Angel did.
Spike is the reason why I watch Buffy every chance I get. Only Spike!
Angel was always so brooding, which is fine, but, at least Spike had a sense of humor, and looked really nifty without a shirt, and he's a great actor, all the emotions he portrayed, the first time he saw Buffy alive, just a great mix of relief, happiness, concern, all with his eyes.
Idk why people can’t understand that she loved BOTH Spike and Angel, simply in different ways. Her love with Angel was the ‘Epic’ teenage romance that we all dream about, and it was one for the ages, especially for a generation of teenagers. THAT is why Joss said it was one of the greatest. It resonates with teen until this day and it is infamous amongst pop culture... of COURSE it’ll be his greatest. But that doesn’t mean that she loved Spike any less. Buffy’s romance with Spike was VERY different. It was more mature that Bangel and in a way even more realistic because relationships aren’t always teen perfect, they can be shitty, but it also showed the ability of a person to CHANGE (in both Buffy and Spike). Neither Romano was better or greater than the other. They were both what Buffy needed at the time, and the men were also who Buffy needed in their life at the time.
This one's almost a no-brainer. Buffy and Spike were two sides of the same coin. Fercious, predatory and savage in their own ways. Did you forget about what Spike told Buffy about Slayers having a death wish? What Spike left out was that all vampires have the same desire. How closer to that can you come than by falling in love with your enemy?
TWILIGHT SUCKS! BUFFY RULES!
One of the most fantastic shows of all time.
Hm. There are a Lot of reasons, why buffy should choose Spike, but i don't see them on this clip.
First like Angel, Spike prefered buffy instead of drusila(angel/ darla) but darla ended their relationship long ago, while drusila left spike,because she knew He had feelings for buffy.
second: spike decided as a Vampire to get his soul back for buffy. angelus allways wanted to kill buffy, and He just had a soul because of the gypsis.
Spike Marsters i don't know if I misunderstood while I was watching the series, I thought Spike got his soul back by surprise, I mean, he left sunnydale looking for someone/something that could turn him into the dangerous Spike of before to kill Buffy or just confront her...
Alex St no He left sunnydale because He realised that He was close to rape buffy, so He decided to get his soul back to be the man buffy could love
Spike Marsters actually he wanted the chip removed but got a soul instead
Nope thats wrong. He wanted the missing spark. and Not something removed
Was Spike intending to get his soul back at the end of season 6 of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
YES !!!!!!! #fact
"Spike's quest was, and ALWAYS WAS, to get his soul restored for Buffy, despite any misleading leaks we may have put out that you fell for."
- David Fury on the Bronze Beta, 11/19/02
"Spike looked into his soul at that moment [the attempted rape], and saw the demon in him, and that's what made him want to go get a soul .... We did a big ole mislead on you all, where we wanted you to think he gonna go get the chip out. We knew, the whole time, from the very beginning he was gonna go get a soul. And when he says I want Buffy to have what she deserves, he means a lover with a soul."
- Jane Espenson, Buffy writer
Radio interview on the Succubus Club, 5/22/02
Moderator: "At the end of the finale, I thought Spike wanted to get the chip out, not get his soul back?"
Joss Whedon: "Noooo.... but you were meant to think that. I personally devised something called a plot twist."
At the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences panel "Behind the Scenes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer," 6/18/02
I'm so glad seeing all those comments calling angel boring. I was starting to fear I was the only one who thought so!
The humor, the way Spike delivered his text with the humor in it! The way Spike delivered his text about his love and passion for Buffy! James Marsters is truly an awesome actor capable to subtlety in his tone of voice or in his way to look at Buffy. He can make you melt in a puddle.
She did choose spike! Read the comics you will know or go on wiki for the comics that's actually how I found out😂
You forgot the entire rock ballad that he sang for her in Once More With Feeling.
I just binge watched Buffy, and I am in Love with Spike. Forget Damon, Forget Stephen, Spike is my ALL TIME FAVORITE CHARACTER NOW.
I feel like my heart is breaking. I am not sure whether I should watch Angel or not because I don't think it's as good as Buffy (I only watched the pilot and it looked boring to me.) I definitely would have watched a Spike show.
One of the main reasons why I liked Spike more than Angel (Aside from the normal ones like their pre-soul behaviors) --
Angel left Buffy saying he wanted her to have a normal life. But Buffy will never have a normal relationship because she is the Slayer. Buffy DIED when he was gone.
Spike Stuck around to help. And when Buffy was gone, and they never thought she will come back, Spike took care of Dawn and kept the scoobies alive. When those demons came to town, Dawn would have been alone and gotten hurt if Spike hadn't stayed with her, even though she said that he can leave.
Angel gets better, and you'll *love* Season 5. It gets really intense.
StormWolf I have half a mind to just watch season 1 and then skip over to season 5 because I really really miss Spike so much.
I also heard the few seasons between them weren't so good..
Rosemarie Hathaway Angel is very good show overall. I like it more than BTVS. Season 1 is ok but season 2 and 3 are very good. You missed some interesting character arc.season 4 is debatable. Season 5 is good but 2 and 3 are my favourite seasons . and There are Angel, Darla, Dru and Spike origin episodes in season 2 or 3.
Angel and Darla story is well written compare to Angel and Buffy. I love Angel and Cordelia. Sadly there is no happy ending for any couple in ATS.
pkbaby Thanks, I was going to skip to season 5, but now I'm planning to at least watch season 1, 2 & 3 first..😀
Literally the first episode I saw of spike. I fell in love with him. He is the best character and I started to watch some of angel it was boring. But if spike had a show I would watch it. And when you see spike in the show he catches your attention and u wait for something to happen. With angel. He is just boring
"You made a bear." "I didn't mean to." "Undo it! Undo it!"
I loved that the show went in that direction, the chemistry was awesome
*Spike* was my biggest TV crush ever....he was soooooo cute and sexy.
Denny II He still is for me, but that's probably because I only watched the show a few months ago.. 😜😜😂😂
Every interaction between Willow and Spike is hilarious.
Buffy with Angel was a total snoozefest, I completely skip those seasons with him now. All he does is brood and skulk around in a cloak of mystery and that gets old and boring pretty quickly. I'm a sucker for the later seasons because all the best moments are Spike and Buffy together. Sparks are always flying and they've always got me on the edge of my seat!
Angel's show is pretty great, mostly because they take the piss out of his brooding persona at literally every turn.
So true. If I wanted a broody vampire and a smitten girl I'd watch Twighlight.
Exactly. I just finished watching Buffy, and all I wanted do is skip through everything and on;y watch Spuffy scenes..
Another thing about Spike. I think he is very perceptive about almost everyone around him. I think he is as good as Angelus (Yeah, not Angel, but Angelus) at reading people
SHE DOES CHOOSE HIM! READ COMIC BOOKS!
Inesha Dixon what for real ?!
Darkangeldeea1987 Yep she says she loves him and everything.
Inesha Dixon
She told him that she loved him in the series finale. He said, "No, you don't," but she said it, and with sincerity.
He also only said no you don't because of an earlier spuffy moment when Spike confesses his love and buffy says 'no you dont' It was a sincere moment
Yeah, but season 10 in the comics is different. There are actually together as a serious couple, for nearly the whole season and going on into season 11. She is telling Spike as her boyfriend/partner that she loves him, not for the first time as he is dying - i.e, they eventually got back together. Which perhaps wasn't clear to you form Inesha Dixon's comment? Course, since Joss is still overseeing the comics, it can't last forever. :D
I'm all for Spuffy. As much as I LOVE Angel, I'll always be Spuffy.
*Spikes walks out the basement
Buffy:spike?
Spike:yeah uhh, did you hear a noise
Buffy:what the hell are you doing in my house?!
*i fell tf out lmfao
that time they literally shagged the place into the ground....
Spike was my absolute favourite part of watching Buffy. he deserved her way more than Angel. because he loved her even before he lost his soul. and the way in which he did, was just adorable!
"and you have stupid hair.." one of the best lines ever!
I can say from experience that you should always choose the one who makes you laugh over the broody “mysterious” one that makes you feel like a Wuthering Heights character. A) humor will get you through the hard shit. B) broody equals moody and you will suffer for it eventually. And C) if he is going out of his way to even TRY and make you laugh that’s an expression of true love cause he will make a fool of himself at some point, he knows it, but he’s doing it anyway to see you smile.
As a mortal Angel was just a womanizing scumbag, drunk. Spike was the sensitive poet. The minute Angel loses his soul he wants to torture and kill Buffy. Spike fell in love with her without a soul and loved her with his soul restored. That greater demon actually did him a huge favor...
the fact that spike loved her without a soul and endured so much hardship to get it back for her and ultimately sacrificed himself to save the world and her are just some of the few reasons why Spike and Buffy were meant to be. that speech he gives to buffy towards the end of season 7 when she is feeling very lost and he's explaining why he loves her and that she's the one not because she's the slayer but because she's her that broke me. nothing Angel did will ever match that (not to say i dont like angel i do, but it was always a star cross lovers kind of vibe and we know it will never amount to anything)
Spike is a being of pain and passion. Three scenes are very defining. The back story where the girl (who may or may not be that vengeance demon,) tells him 'You are beneath me', and then later on Buffy says the same. Combine that with the Church scene where Spike reveals that he got his soul back for her, and the whole character becomes very clear. "And she will look on him with forgiveness, and everyone will forgive, and love... and he will be loved." czcams.com/video/gE86XBVj110/video.html
BTVS is an iconic tv show, absolutely one of the best ever! It's one of the few tv shows where I can watch re-runs over and over and over again! I loved Angel and also loved his show, but Spike was always the one!! He was everything! Angel and Buffy together was sometimes boring, but never Spike and Buffy! The sexual tension between them in the later shows was amazing!
I totally agree you sometime angel and Buffy was boring but spike and Buffy was funny & awesome their chemistry was even Better than angel and Buffy I wish they could make a show shout spike too and like this we could see more scene of Buffy and spike together ❤️🙈 and yes Buffy the vampire slayer was definitely a iconic show one the best show ❤️ I love too angel too but I think I love more spike than angel and angel show is great too i stared watch last week
Even without the soul spike felt more than Angel ever did with it
Spike had it all. The bad boy turned brooding turned in love. I’ve always said Spike and Buffy belonged together. We have all had our first love but he was her true one. He went through so much to prove his love and as much as I love Buffy she couldn’t even give it her all in the end(when he sacrificed his self for her and and the world). Spike over Angle every time
Was expecting the scene where Spike got thrashed by Glory but refused to endanger Buffy or Dawn.
I find it really hard to decide where I am at with Spike. On the one hand, he has intense amounts of chemistry with Buffy, and gets his soul back for her. On the other hand, he tried to rape her, and was very abusive to her. But then again, this was after months of her being abusive to him and treating him like dirt. In the end, when they worked through their problems, I believe they worked very well together.
Bea Gale I agree. Their chemistry was the best. I agree that Spike trying to rape Buffy was wrong, but this wasn't his intention even though their relationship has always been like this, i.e. one of them ( mostly Buffy) saying no upto a point and then giving in.
But Spike knew that he had crossed a line and made a mistake. People make mistakes. What matters most is that, what they do AFTER that.
Spike went away, got himself tortured to be the kind of person who would never do something like this again.
Well, in the comics books she already chose Spike!
Well (SPOILER ALERT!!) she did...has chosen Spike :) The series/seasons continue in the comics, and they are full of Spuffy deliciousness and geniune love!
Spike is the greatest TV character of all time, no one comes close, everyone I show him to instantly likes him
There is only one reason needed. Unlike Angel, Spike was eventually a good guy with or without his soul, something he chose in the end.
I know everyone's talking about Spuffy, and with good reason, cause the video is about them, but isn't anyone gonna say anything about that poor house? Not even a few words? Not even a R.I.P? We're not gonna even say all those lies people say at their friend's funerals? This is why there are so many accidents with houses they feel unappreciated!
Brittney Galathynius RIP in peace house. Press F5 to pay respects
F5. RIP House
let's face it...their love brought the house down LOL
Insurance claim:
Cause of destruction of living room and staircase: Foreplay.
Cause of destruction of main floor: Release of YEARS of sexual tension.
Conclusion: Worth it.
I'm pretty sure it was condemned anyway so. They were doing the destruction team a favor
SPOILER ALERT
She did choose him in the comic continuation of the series, if you watch Angel you find out he survived hellmouth and seasons 8-11 continue in the comics.
6:34 - goes down in the history of TV as one of the top 10 BEST sex scenes. Spike and Buffy. Forever.
Aww I just love that show so so much, binge watched the whole thing about four or five times already xD
And I always loved Spike... Always wanted a Spike for my own... Still want 😫
haha take it up with Buffy, or Illiyria, "can I keep him as a pet"
5 words or less. "Out. For. A. Walk. Bitch." This is iconic, my best line.
I burst into giggles every time.
Always loved Spike.
I bet he'd get along just well with Damon (TVD)
Btw.... title is wrong
SHE DID CHOOSE HIM!
They are currently together.
But they broke up at the end
YES SHE DID AND EVEN AT THE AND AFTER THEY BROKE UP SHE TOLD HIM TO STICK AROUND CUZ SHE BELIEVE THEY WILL BE TOGETHER AGAIN. ❤
How are people still fighting about Angel and Spike 20 fucking years later? She's dating Spike now, he won, if that's what you wanted. Read the comics.
I started in the middle of season 4 because Spike was around a lot from then to the end. Just recently I struggled through seasons 1-3 where typical brooding drama queen Angel is all about. Wanted to finally see all the episodes, but man, Angel makes it so hard to watch.
Spike challenged Buffy in a way Angel did not. He made her question everything she stood for and believed. He forced her to question herself. They would either be the best for eachother or the worst. But it is clear spike loved her with everything inside him, but Buffy being the slayer and dealing with all of the emotional and mental doubt/damage of men stemming from early on did not help spikes chances.
- I love you
- No, you don't. But thank you for saying this
The best "love dialogue" I've ever heard
She did love him she meant it when she said it Buffy not the type to say that especially to men if she don’t mean it
slShe did choose Spike, in the comics. There are four more seasons of Buffy comics and it continues from where the show left off and they are still going.
This show mirrored my life a few times. There were parts in it, that, as I watched them, it was like the screenwriters were writing my life and I knew that, at least about some things, someone on the team had experienced these same things. The episode when Buffy's mom dies is especially...that's exactly what it's like. and "you'll never be friends."
Spike will forever be my favorite Buffy/Angel character
I was an Angel/Buffy fan, but I do agree that Buffy and Spike were better for each other. The irony is that I think Angel and Faith fitted with each other better as well.
Omg, I found my tribe. I had been shipping Spike and Buffy for 20+ years but nobody ever agreed. Everything was all about Angel and his brooding and his hair. Smh. I love a good brood but it gets old.
Welcome to the nancy tribe- Best Giles line
I freaking love Spike, so I don't take much convincing, but this is the laziest "15 reasons" list I've ever seen. What even is this? Should have been titled "15 scenes with Spike in them, which you'd probably rather watch in context on Netflix"
dragoness13579 UK Netflix took Buffy off - I'm still DEVASTATED 6 months on 😖 Syfy has picked it up now for the 20th anniversary but it's cut to ribbons 😣
I agree, I own the complete series of buffy and watch it yearly and was expecting way better examples of why she should have chosen Spike. The best examples weren't even shown here.
Yeah buffet should have ended up with spike and cordelia shouldn't have died so she and angel could be together
Buffet hahahahahaha
I laughed so hard at that
Kudos to you, sir.
You haven't seen much of Joss' work, have you?
I think Cordelia is not really dead, she became a higher power. But I haven't already read the comics.
Read the comics....
Thanks for this - I was needing a mini Spuffy fix and this made my day so much better! Team Spuffy!!! ❤😀
Had to start reading the comics just to see them end up together!!! What was Joss thinking with ANGEL! Seriously boring, didn't he see he had everything the fans wanted rolled up in one delicious platinum haired package with SPIKE!!!
To be fair there was an entire season of angel before spike even showed and another several seasons yet before they could wiggle outta bangel
Yeah because a rapist and piece of shit it's so much better.
Lauren Perez Actually, Joss had his arm twisted to put love interest. He did NOT want her to have one. He was talked into it, as long as he could kill off the character. Angel was supposed to die end of season one. Turned out the Only way fans let him get rid of him was to give him a show.
Oh really? That's interesting, I'm glad they gave him a show, it allowed both him, Cordelia and Wesley to come out and develop as characters in a way that they couldn't have in the Buffy mother show that had too many characters for them.
+Bianca Wolf ~ Y'know, feminists say men can't be raped because they're physically stronger than women and could stop a woman any time they wanted. Well, Buffy is stronger than Spike, so that means she couldn't be raped by him.
There are two episodes on Buffy that I wanna bring up here now. One is Halloween from season 2 and the other is Tabula Rasa from season 6.
In Halloween, because of magic, our heroes wrongfully think they are somebody else with no memory or knowledge of who or what they really are, like Xander thinks he's a soldier and Buffy thinks she's an eighteen century girl.
In Tabula Rasa, because of magic, they just lose all of their memory, they don't even know their names. In both cases, though, they are thrown into one crisis.
On season two, Buffy is into Angel, and in "Halloween", when her memory is messed up with magic, she barely pays attention to Angel when she sees him. On season six, Buffy is into Spike, and in "Tabula Rasa", when her memory is messed up with magic, she rushes to save Spike once he's attacked, and then the two of them team up to fight the bad guys. See?
"Stay away from Randy!"
Honnestly, the attempted rape was bad, but when you realize that the story ii's based on, the woman was the attacker, it put some things in perspectives. Buffy could've been the one to do it, God know she'd feel bad, but she was in a bad enough place for it to happen.
And hey, he did try to atone for it by getting his soul and suffering the consequences of it. Can't remember Angel trying to atone for the stuff he did as Angelus when he came back.
Buffy kind of did but in a way less graphic way. in “Gone” Spike asks her to leave and she goes down on him without his consent. I wouldn’t put it on par with *that scene* but the whole foundation of their relationship in season 6 was lack of proper boundaries. I still resent the writers for *that scene* being blatantly an attack on the audience.
Joss hated Spike’s popularity and hated that the audience liked Spuffy. He asked the writers to tell him “the worst thing they’d ever done” and he chose to make a scene based on which writer had the most horrific answer. So one of the writers had tried to force themselves on their ex to try and regain their affection.
The whole thing including the behind the scenes reasoning was super ICK. Also James and Sarah begged not to do it but were “contractually forced”.. like the actors did NOT give consent, they didn’t have the right to say no.
@@Victoria-xf8sh Oh, I know ! Although, I don't count the first one. If Spike didn't want to, he would've said so, that was meant to be a fun scene. Buffy has done many fucked up shit to Spike really, there's no need to reach for "rape" or even "dubious consent" to say that she was destructive to Spike as much as he was to her and that it just didn't happen in the same way. She COULD've tried, in another one of her breakdown, searching for more conection or even to hurt herself more to "rape" him. Except that really, he would've had let her and would want it, so it wouldn't be rape. He's got ... Intimacy issues, and she's been taking advantage of it as much as he's been taking advantage of hers.
He's been much more aware of it by season 7 tho, so, that's good. Or bad.
With Angel I was like ok she is with this guy cool but then Spike started falling in love with Buffy and got a soul for her the gave that beautiful monologue in the run down cathedral I melted and was pro Spike forever!!!! 🤘
Love spike. Also loved Drusilla. To me they were the perfect pair.
Ishieka Morris eww no. Drusilla was awful 😂
They would’ve been if she wasn’t so much of a freaky hoe. 😂
I always loved spike
The Buffy comics continues the love story of Spike and Buffy. They're still going strong in the current season.