You realize the machine is designed to unload in one go. Why the fuck would you split it? The logs were stuck in the trailer, he was simply trying to free it by gently going back and forwards. Lot of people talking shit here. If his boss caught him fucking around trying to split the load he would not be happy
Understand this: time is money. Therefore anything that takes longer to do one than another is wasting money. In this situation, splitting the load would clearly have been quicker, therefore saving time and money. Simples!
bjkerp We run one of those in our log yard, wouldnt be hard at all to weasel those forks between those logs, to split that load. We do it all the time to keep our machines from struggling (and if the boss-man saw that he would FLIP HIS LID!). AND! The logs are not "stuck" in there, you don't need to move it around to free it.
what your also fogetting lads, if the machine has to toppled over or damage the HGV he would get f*****d just in the back ground is a moble crane that could have just took two logs off making it much safer, sod the cost! if you want to talk about cost if it had gone wrong how much more would it of cost to put right? these machines anit cheap to fix are they?? the insurence company would say that they would not pay out because the machine was opperating well out of its safe working limits. and lets face it we all know what insurance companies are like they are sods for not paying up. any excuse to get out of paying up like there is a Y in the week will do
I actually have about 18 years of experience opperating heavy equipment, so if there was such a thing as an expert, that would make me one. I know enough that you break things over time treating them like that. Nice of you to notice and add to my credibility.
Construction site vehicles usually have quite low pressure in the tyres to soften the ride and allow them to get a better grip on the soft dirt. So when they're loaded up a bit they'll naturally balloon a little.
Its for when its travelling on uneven ground, if the loader had a solid axle then the wheels would go into hole and it would rock over and tip, where as the axle pivoting allows it to stay upright and more balanced. The reason it was rocking was just the weight of the tyres as the loader was bouncing it was rocking them back and forward
I heard the local volvo agent went down there after seeing this video (or one like it) and told them their warranty is essentially void now. I work in and out of that port all day during the summer, driving right past the log yards and havent seen any of these guys doing this in a long time.
Nice Loader! The problem with this picture is that whoever spec'd the loader out, ordered it with to big of grapple head! Around a sawmill machines will be pushed to do whatever they can do, even if it doesn't help productivity. If they need to pick-up a full trailer load, a larger loader should have been bought. In the background, I see a stacker driving around with his stabalizers down, it won't be long before it's laying on it's side! Management Wake Up!!
Nothing unusual here, goes on all the time, Happened during John Ray's Operation, now it happens during C3's operation. And yes it would be smarter to take a couple logs off, but that's how its done in Wellington. I wonder if the truck driver still has his amazing Docket of the 58 tonne log load that he brought in, may Moon's ago and have you framed it yet?, so proud of you.
hahahahahahah not at all these diffs/transmissions are build out of extremely thick and hard materials. 19 tons would not be enough to give it any damage at all
First off all, that loader isn't designed to lift loads like that.. And second, it will break transmission or differential because rear wheels are of the ground repeatedly while driving..
Accident's waiting to happen here, he almost tip over while traveling backwards, next time what might happen and no one would be able to stop it from happening.
"18.8" was the shout at the end when someone seemed to ask. Presumably it must have gone over a weighbridge or the guy loading it up at the other end stacked the logs on until it was just short of a 19t limit...
Awesome! Many people would have given up! True pro driver! And yes there are many people that would have loved to see him fail! And there would be many more shots on you tube!
Tilting back that little bit with that load is gonna do little to nothing to keep the wheels on the ground, however it's doing a bang up job of wedging the load between the stakes
Everybody in here is an expert heavy machine operator, right on... Thats why he makes the big bucks doing that as a job and you all played with tonka toys as a child.
Given that the fulcrum in this case counts as the front wheels, and the height of the load doesn't matter so much as its fore/aft position relative to said fulcrum (as the main force acting on it is gravity, not some kind of rotational torque from an engine, or a jet attached to the load), and the lifting arm only has one significant point of articulation - right over the fulcrum - I'd actually be MORE inclined to drive it around - slowly and softly! - with the arm tilted up rather than lowered.
that is very rare ... you see a wild wheel-loader try to get his food tired, after a few minutes of fighting the wood is tired enough so he can take it to his favorite place for dinner ... he is also trying to save up for winter, normaly he would not eat that much at once ...
I agree, it's not something to do all the time, but you do have to give this operator his dues !!! I just would not want to put any machine of mine through that !!!
Using the wrong tool for any job is never a good idea! classic example right here, the machine is to small for the size of load that claw can grab. Dont care how skilled an operater you are,if your using the wrong tool your a fool!.
I agree, it's faster to take a couple logs off. But I guess he was trying to prove something. Did you see how flat the tires were? All it would have taken for disaster was for one of those tires to blow.
Most likely he'd say "in order for that machine to lift it's maximum capacity all four wheels should be full of water". "This will give greater counter balance in the rear and less tyre distortion in the front". If that lift was to heavy for the machine the hydraulic safety bypass valve would have opened not allowing the machine to lift it's rear in the air like that.
I'll give you the tires are strong even though most are recaps but the stress he puts on the machine is awesome. A broken hydraulic line can coast the Co a lot of money with down time and repairs not to mention the damage to the environment and the truck Co's losses if he shears the saddle on the hay-rack. I've driven these machines for 23 yr's and have seen this happen countless times without over stressing the machine. This only stresses the parts and causes premature ware.
Thats the tilt for un-level ground so the machine is kept level and not rolling over also most loader and telehandler operators have the machines arse up in the air daily most safely some not so safe.
if it is pine. it is impossible to be 19 tonnes. there are something like 20 logs over there and most of the diameters are below 35 cm and the length is 6 meters. with a simple calculation it is max 12 tonnes. in any case. half of the truck is already unloaded and as far as i know you can load max 25-26 tones to one truck because of the regulations.
I wonder if this forestry areas owner will even get extra counter weights fitted, or with he let the machinery struggle? And that was not a particularly large load right? Take care and thanks for the upload, mrbluenun
So did he forget the claw pivots as well as the arm, or was it just not strong enough to do it until he'd rocked it around a bit? The critical moment seemed to come when the claw finally tilted back and suddenly the jack between arm and tractor was able to tilt the arm instead of the tractor base unit thanks to the altered centre of balance... And I thought these things usually had some engineering tolerance built in, so if it wouldn't move at all / overbalanced you'd badly exceeded the limits?
not only, with 2 trips he could have also needed half of fuel and it could have been half risky for mechanical failures..but in this way is twice spectacular, expecially if someone is recording it, let him have his 5 minutes of fame
The machine gets ruins if you push it to hard. The prices on replacement parts aren't cheap at all. It's a great video. But before anything you should be thinking about your own safety, clearly the driver needs a few lessons if not everyone of them.
calcium clhoride in the rear tires would help alot as far as keeping all four on the ground but the stress on the front tires is overloaded im suprised they didnt blow..and yeah i would have been shittcanned on the spot
In theory yes, but practically he wouldn't be able to do that as the equipment is made to take all or nothing, the alternative would have been to manually remove a log or two. That would have taken some serious time.
Methinks you mean INEXPERIENCED! Any person who knew their machine wouldn't attempt to do this. Try to lift - too heavy - do it in two separate lifts - simple! Oh no, forgot, simple is loader man's middle name!
all u did was make a video to show off, and all u showcased was how not to unload. look after ur machine half nut, and machine will look after u. ur dumber than what u think.
its not my video....I was making a comment/joke. Who knows if his name is Bob, who knows if he's getting double time and a half............you need to chill the fuck out it aint your machine man calm down!
sorry dude, just re-read ur comment. i get it now lol. guess im the dumass. my name is bob so thought u were taking a personal stab, coz i left a comment up the top mocking this guy driving the loader. sorry to get uptight, but im an operator too, and seen idiots in machines before.. just pisses me off thats all man. sorry again.
Bobby Bennett lol sall good man! I was just trying to be funny! I too appreciate a fine piece of machinery....obviously this jackass in the vid does not! No harm No foul! Cheers
Ah screw regulations you've obviously never seen an Aussie Road train in action, There's Semi's then there's B doubles but try hauling an AB-Quad (B double with two additional trailers coupled behind) with some configurations topping out at close to 200 tonnes with the majority being between 80 and 120 tonne, I totally agree with what "Foxpine" said As Different countries have different regulations Like Australia's are different to New Zealands
we see that the center of gravity comes to the rear wheels by pulling back and pulling up the fork - But what happend when the fork comes down? - - i thiink when the Fork coms Down the rear wheels get up again an ther is no Triailer to lean on --or did he lost the fraight tree bay tree??
Little bit unsafe to do and just real time consuming is the main thing. I drive a F series volvo like this and it gets up like this every now and then but I don't do it for long periods of time incase something gets damaged. They can definitely lift more than they can counter balance that's for sure
An experienced loader would have taken half, unloaded, returned and taken the other half. Done in half the time... Nor had he putt the whole weight on the front axel.
OttovonEarth I’m an experienced operator and I know 100% you can work your forks between those logs. It becomes difficult when you’re unloading the butt ends of the tree.
Also the maintenance guys won't be very happy with the stresses put on that machine after that. Do that every day and you'll be left with a worn out machine in no time. Not that Volvos are bad, but they're not made for that kind of punishment..
he proberly has done this at least 20 times that day that is why there was no worries by the opperator as the wheels come off the ground the only reason the video waas shown in that rookies dont know that this is a common occurance
Got to love the keyboard warriors! The grapple is not designed to split its designed to take the hole bunk off in one hit hence the name SINGLE LIFT VOLVO it must of just been a extra heavy bunk
+Chris Warren It is easy to split a bunk. Especially with logs the size of these! I used to do it all the time. His boss should have slapped that boy up side the head for that one!
If I was his boss I would have docked him for time-wasting. Splitting that lift in two would have taken half the time. What a pratt.
You realize the machine is designed to unload in one go. Why the fuck would you split it? The logs were stuck in the trailer, he was simply trying to free it by gently going back and forwards. Lot of people talking shit here. If his boss caught him fucking around trying to split the load he would not be happy
Understand this: time is money. Therefore anything that takes longer to do one than another is wasting money. In this situation, splitting the load would clearly have been quicker, therefore saving time and money. Simples!
bjkerp We run one of those in our log yard, wouldnt be hard at all to weasel those forks between those logs, to split that load. We do it all the time to keep our machines from struggling (and if the boss-man saw that he would FLIP HIS LID!). AND! The logs are not "stuck" in there, you don't need to move it around to free it.
what your also fogetting lads, if the machine has to toppled over or damage the HGV he would get f*****d just in the back ground is a moble crane that could have just took two logs off making it much safer, sod the cost! if you want to talk about cost if it had gone wrong how much more would it of cost to put right? these machines anit cheap to fix are they?? the insurence company would say that they would not pay out because the machine was opperating well out of its safe working limits. and lets face it we all know what insurance companies are like they are sods for not paying up. any excuse to get out of paying up like there is a Y in the week will do
bjkerp yeah you're a dumbass, hopefully you work inside the office
Yep, he did'it...But he was torture those axels, tires, use to much oil and off course time. But he lifted with that volvo deadly weight.
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He could have made two trips in half the time...
I actually have about 18 years of experience opperating heavy equipment, so if there was such a thing as an expert, that would make me one. I know enough that you break things over time treating them like that. Nice of you to notice and add to my credibility.
Splitting the load would've been rougher on the truck. Speaking from experience
Lol for most of the time it's the wood who lifts the Volvo
Construction site vehicles usually have quite low pressure in the tyres to soften the ride and allow them to get a better grip on the soft dirt. So when they're loaded up a bit they'll naturally balloon a little.
Its for when its travelling on uneven ground, if the loader had a solid axle then the wheels would go into hole and it would rock over and tip, where as the axle pivoting allows it to stay upright and more balanced. The reason it was rocking was just the weight of the tyres as the loader was bouncing it was rocking them back and forward
I heard the local volvo agent went down there after seeing this video (or one like it) and told them their warranty is essentially void now. I work in and out of that port all day during the summer, driving right past the log yards and havent seen any of these guys doing this in a long time.
Nice Loader! The problem with this picture is that whoever spec'd the loader out, ordered it with to big of grapple head! Around a sawmill machines will be pushed to do whatever they can do, even if it doesn't help productivity. If they need to pick-up a full trailer load, a larger loader should have been bought.
In the background, I see a stacker driving around with his stabalizers down, it won't be long before it's laying on it's side!
Management Wake Up!!
For the amount of time it took he should of bit off half the load. OR go to the other side so he wasnt facing down hill
Nothing unusual here, goes on all the time, Happened during John Ray's Operation, now it happens during C3's operation. And yes it would be smarter to take a couple logs off, but that's how its done in Wellington. I wonder if the truck driver still has his amazing Docket of the 58 tonne log load that he brought in, may Moon's ago and have you framed it yet?, so proud of you.
only a person with skill and patience can do THAT...impressed i am
better hope for his sake his boss dosnt see this xD should have fire him on the spot.
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Now, that's how you break your differential and transmission..
hahahahahahah not at all these diffs/transmissions are build out of extremely thick and hard materials. 19 tons would not be enough to give it any damage at all
First off all, that loader isn't designed to lift loads like that.. And second, it will break transmission or differential because rear wheels are of the ground repeatedly while driving..
Accident's waiting to happen here, he almost tip over while traveling backwards, next time what might happen and no one would be able to stop it from happening.
OMG then you must call SUPERMAN!
"18.8" was the shout at the end when someone seemed to ask. Presumably it must have gone over a weighbridge or the guy loading it up at the other end stacked the logs on until it was just short of a 19t limit...
Awesome! Many people would have given up! True pro driver! And yes there are many people that would have loved to see him fail! And there would be many more shots on you tube!
Good way to bust the loader tires and break the trucks springs!
by the way--great video--seen this done many times myself but didn't think to get my camera out of the truck--
more please--
Tilting back that little bit with that load is gonna do little to nothing to keep the wheels on the ground, however it's doing a bang up job of wedging the load between the stakes
That's the craziest thing I've ever seen a loader do
Everybody in here is an expert heavy machine operator, right on... Thats why he makes the big bucks doing that as a job and you all played with tonka toys as a child.
The front tires look like they would explode.
Given that the fulcrum in this case counts as the front wheels, and the height of the load doesn't matter so much as its fore/aft position relative to said fulcrum (as the main force acting on it is gravity, not some kind of rotational torque from an engine, or a jet attached to the load), and the lifting arm only has one significant point of articulation - right over the fulcrum - I'd actually be MORE inclined to drive it around - slowly and softly! - with the arm tilted up rather than lowered.
It does demonstrate the operator's ability, which ironically what lands jobs and boosts productivity.
that is very rare ... you see a wild wheel-loader try to get his food tired, after a few minutes of fighting the wood is tired enough so he can take it to his favorite place for dinner ... he is also trying to save up for winter, normaly he would not eat that much at once ...
I agree, it's not something to do all the time, but you do have to give this operator his dues !!! I just would not want to put any machine of mine through that !!!
Using the wrong tool for any job is never a good idea! classic example right here, the machine is to small for the size of load that claw can grab.
Dont care how skilled an operater you are,if your using the wrong tool your a fool!.
this man is really experienced! congratulations! im sure that these machines will stand this
I agree, it's faster to take a couple logs off.
But I guess he was trying to prove something.
Did you see how flat the tires were? All it would have taken for disaster was for one of those tires to blow.
Most likely he'd say "in order for that machine to lift it's maximum capacity all four wheels should be full of water". "This will give greater counter balance in the rear and less tyre distortion in the front".
If that lift was to heavy for the machine the hydraulic safety bypass valve would have opened not allowing the machine to lift it's rear in the air like that.
i bet that's a Kenworth truck!!! so powerful
Have a few Weight Watchers members sit on the back end of the loader and away you go.
yer i know some to! but they would brake the back axle too!!!
I'll give you the tires are strong even though most are recaps but the stress he puts on the machine is awesome. A broken hydraulic line can coast the Co a lot of money with down time and repairs not to mention the damage to the environment and the truck Co's losses if he shears the saddle on the hay-rack.
I've driven these machines for 23 yr's and have seen this happen countless times without over stressing the machine. This only stresses the parts and causes premature ware.
Two wheels must be filled with water, for more counterweight.
Dos ruedas deben ser llenados con agua, para mayor contrapeso.
great to have this on the video, volvo people must be impressed
the man wich was controlling the volvo can work very well with the machine,,,, good work,,
Well, I believe they created a way to changing those rear tires/wheels easier.
Thats the tilt for un-level ground so the machine is kept level and not rolling over also most loader and telehandler operators have the machines arse up in the air daily most safely some not so safe.
if it is pine. it is impossible to be 19 tonnes. there are something like 20 logs over there and most of the diameters are below 35 cm and the length is 6 meters. with a simple calculation it is max 12 tonnes. in any case. half of the truck is already unloaded and as far as i know you can load max 25-26 tones to one truck because of the regulations.
I wonder if this forestry areas owner will even get extra counter weights fitted, or with he let the machinery struggle? And that was not a particularly large load right?
Take care and thanks for the upload, mrbluenun
So did he forget the claw pivots as well as the arm, or was it just not strong enough to do it until he'd rocked it around a bit? The critical moment seemed to come when the claw finally tilted back and suddenly the jack between arm and tractor was able to tilt the arm instead of the tractor base unit thanks to the altered centre of balance...
And I thought these things usually had some engineering tolerance built in, so if it wouldn't move at all / overbalanced you'd badly exceeded the limits?
CHUCK NORRIS GETTING READY FOR THE WINTER ...
The most fascinating with this is that he simply dont give up...
not only, with 2 trips he could have also needed half of fuel and it could have been half risky for mechanical failures..but in this way is twice spectacular, expecially if someone is recording it, let him have his 5 minutes of fame
If that was my loader you'd be so f---ing fired you couldn't believe it!
Never give up lol
Awesome !
See the front tires and poor front axle OMG
Take care
Damn that is one hell of an old school truck o.O
Someone needs to stand on his back bumper, here hold my beer, I got this.
The machine gets ruins if you push it to hard. The prices on replacement parts aren't cheap at all. It's a great video. But before anything you should be thinking about your own safety, clearly the driver needs a few lessons if not everyone of them.
This guys good, definitely knows his machine
It.... has.....to .... work... *walking slowly *arriving at kitchen *almost dropped something... *done.
Soundtrack: "What a man what a man..."
i've been to that log yard, some decent industrial mulch there.
calcium clhoride in the rear tires would help alot as far as keeping all four on the ground but the stress on the front tires is overloaded im suprised they didnt blow..and yeah i would have been shittcanned on the spot
Not too effective, but damn. This person knows how maneuver this thing.
The Highlifter should do that one.
In theory yes, but practically he wouldn't be able to do that as the equipment is made to take all or nothing, the alternative would have been to manually remove a log or two. That would have taken some serious time.
Needs a CAT 994F that load would be like picking up tooth picks!
I'd suggest that maybe the logs were a tad over weight? Betcha that unloader doesn't have the same inefficient time-consuming problem with all loads.
Methinks you mean INEXPERIENCED! Any person who knew their machine wouldn't attempt to do this. Try to lift - too heavy - do it in two separate lifts - simple! Oh no, forgot, simple is loader man's middle name!
"Hey Bob!" its quicker just to make 2 trips!.......(Bob)......im getting double time and a half! Fuck off!
all u did was make a video to show off, and all u showcased was how not to unload. look after ur machine half nut, and machine will look after u. ur dumber than what u think.
its not my video....I was making a comment/joke. Who knows if his name is Bob, who knows if he's getting double time and a half............you need to chill the fuck out it aint your machine man calm down!
sorry dude, just re-read ur comment. i get it now lol. guess im the dumass. my name is bob so thought u were taking a personal stab, coz i left a comment up the top mocking this guy driving the loader. sorry to get uptight, but im an operator too, and seen idiots in machines before.. just pisses me off thats all man. sorry again.
Bobby Bennett
lol sall good man! I was just trying to be funny!
I too appreciate a fine piece of machinery....obviously this jackass in the vid does not!
No harm No foul!
Cheers
watch front tires when getting it on:D
I think I finally see a job Michel Moore would be good for
that is a great driver!
UM GRANDE IDIOTA!!!
the loader can take it, as long as you dont put any weights on the back itll be fine
If he keep driving that way the machine wont last long and this video show Idiotic act and out of OH&S.
Awesome, I didn't know those axles actually moved that much.
Ah screw regulations you've obviously never seen an Aussie Road train in action, There's Semi's then there's B doubles but try hauling an AB-Quad (B double with two additional trailers coupled behind) with some configurations topping out at close to 200 tonnes with the majority being between 80 and 120 tonne, I totally agree with what "Foxpine" said As Different countries have different regulations Like Australia's are different to New Zealands
yeah and putting way to much stress on the machine everytime is really smart, also unloading half at the time is much faster then doing it like this.
we see that the center of gravity comes to the rear wheels by pulling back and pulling up the fork - But what happend when the fork comes down? - - i thiink when the Fork coms Down the rear wheels get up again an ther is no Triailer to lean on --or did he lost the fraight tree bay tree??
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH the machine in the ending is hilarious
They usually have bigger loader's at the port when I've been in.
What a great way to (1) Break a loader and (2) Damage your trailer
Are you trying to blow the tires or is this normal? How thick are those tires and how can they hold that much pressure insane.
Little bit unsafe to do and just real time consuming is the main thing. I drive a F series volvo like this and it gets up like this every now and then but I don't do it for long periods of time incase something gets damaged. They can definitely lift more than they can counter balance that's for sure
If I did this in our yard, my boss would sack me on the spot !! And I wouldnt blame him either...
Mean while the guy who’s doing double lifts is already on the next trailer
Pretty sure the driver is just playing around to show the max load.. ( The driver of the rig he is unloading is the one who is doing the video)
An experienced loader would have taken half, unloaded, returned and taken the other half. Done in half the time... Nor had he putt the whole weight on the front axel.
lol working the forks between the logs is a piece of piss soaked cake , the logs move allowing the forks to push through
OttovonEarth I’m an experienced operator and I know 100% you can work your forks between those logs. It becomes difficult when you’re unloading the butt ends of the tree.
Great operator.........
Did anyone else find themselves tilting their mouse to one side, whilst watching that? LOL!
nice video but it takes a lot of time to unload do they always unload like this or was this just for the vid?
Glad I am in the US, I would hate to see your complex calculations :)
1:36 yea that is the physics!!!(after 1,5min)
Anyway VOLVO the monster :) love it
What changed? The gentle breeze.
I would put a 2-3 tons concrete conterweight in the back as agricultors are doing !
real operator at work
I'm surprised the mill isn't going to have to replace rife stakes on the trailer
Those are some damn dense logs that really didn't look like much but shit! Look at the tires on the front squat.
It must have been funny for the Truckdriver to watch
Also the maintenance guys won't be very happy with the stresses put on that machine after that. Do that every day and you'll be left with a worn out machine in no time. Not that Volvos are bad, but they're not made for that kind of punishment..
Just get a bigger machine. Saves time, money, equipment. Kudos to the driver, though.
he proberly has done this at least 20 times that day that is why there was no worries by the opperator as the wheels come off the ground the only reason the video waas shown in that rookies dont know that this is a common occurance
awesome. What was the timber? I assume it was hardwood?
He wanted to make sure he got em all
Got to love the keyboard warriors! The grapple is not designed to split its designed to take the hole bunk off in one hit hence the name SINGLE LIFT VOLVO it must of just been a extra heavy bunk
+Chris Warren It is easy to split a bunk. Especially with logs the size of these!
I used to do it all the time.
His boss should have slapped that boy up side the head for that one!
Okay, your youtube credentials are amazing.
Imagine the pressure on the pneumatics!...
Gotta love all the experts commenting on the video.
Glad you enjoyed it
heavy stuff!...good video! i am impressed......