Fact is fact. Genz's are young. Not all Genz's are educated but they are very informed...n they need to listen to their parents b4 they go for maandamano... everyone has a parent, a guardian or a counselor...seek advice b4 you go n prayers
@@GhettoSportifffc but you have counselors who are educated or guardians...when a Genz's is injured, it's the guardian or parents that suffer n take care of them especially those with gun shot wounds
This was a very insightful conversation with great leaders on the panel. However, if this degenerates in the government weren’t as corrupt as they are, there would be more infrastructures, factories, better roads, provision of free trade and technical schools which would essentially lead to more jobs. It’s a trickle down effect. Corrupt leaders cannot lead a country successfully. It’s like the blind leading the blind. Kenya is God’s country and with His grace and wisdom, things will never be the same again 🇰🇪😘.
Hello my people! I want to agree with a great suggestion that has come up. Why can we not have a total shutdown? If we are stopped from going into the streets, can we stop everyone from leaving their homes until Ruto resigns? Look, the 2 days per week is nothing to Ruto and his goons. I suggest we stay we go a notch hire. No plane will land or leave the country, no ship will dock or leave the country. Let me know what you think?
Very sorry but there is a difference between a pick pocket and a massive money launderer who deliberately compromises his people’s position in the world. You have together been outrageous.
I've seen children as young as 8 yrs wiser than their own fathers!!!!! Which wisdom is this.. .from pple over 50 yrs ....doing n reading from the same same script.....64 yrs after so called independence!!!!!!
Please stop calling them kids that ia derafatory. They are educated young adults. Bishop I am dissapointed. If we had proper governance we would not need to seek employment outside Kenya. You are missing the point.
These are people who benefit from the system. If Ruto is forced out anybody after him will try to do is job the right way. Maybe you guys have something to lose we don't.
@husseinmkanga7794 do you even hear yourself speak? Follow the constitution to remove a current president. A country cannot be void because you are agitated....
Just few day after covid i moved to nothern part of kenya. During my drive around i saw children were outside the church Playing then deeper observation i realized the somalis were busy keeping the children busy by memorizing the Quran. I could help feeling some empty space in my heart and some guilt. It was not my place to make the change. Northern part of kenya is for everyone. I felt betrayed.
Mtazunguka Sana tatizo watu wa serekali wanapata salary ambayo iko juu plus kuiba lkni hii mishahara yao ingepunguzwa na ifatiliwe ukiiba unarudisha hiyo pesa na ukae ndani
As much as the security agencies have been blamed for using excessive force to the Genz allow me salute most of our officers who behaved very humanely in the course their duty. We are definitely indebted to you. May our good God also protect you.
The conversation ur having today is getting into our hearts.7m Kenyan according to our systems of education and jobs there totally out as if we don't need ther contribution
Go to Canada for sure , Canadian needs trade training,Carpenters, plumbers, drivers,cooks, housekeepers, caregivers, nurses, motor mechanics and so many others.
Mr President, you should not hide behind democracy to foster nepotism, corruption, over taxation, abuse of power and dictatorship. We can't allow you to rule us with an iron fist. It high time for you to reflect on your failures and stop shifting the blame to other people. Implement the constitution without favouritism. The rule of law should apply equally to all Kenyans but in your government, your close associates are above the law. We resist your inability or unwillingness to uphold the constitution of Kenya impartially. We gave you an opportunity to select a new cabinet but you have recycled your friends back. We hold you to the highest expectation. Nothing will change if you continue doing things the same way. It is time for a new paradigm shift or you ship out. Kenya belong to all of us and each voice matters. Listen Mr President. Listen to the voices of Kenya and respond accordingly.
When it comes down to individuals businesses the follow accountability to the latter but when it come to the public finances it painful to those given mandates to account.
Why shouldn't they trained on skilled workers within our country Kenya. They real have knowledge for such things like plumbing, Mechanical, painting, small & big farming etc
Load of gabbage...... you tell us to listen to leaders who are compromised and don't listen to the people. Government wheeled propaganda. Good governance and stop corruption, accountability is key
Girls don't want mama baby boys if u wait maandamano ndo mkaibe mali ya wizi hiwezi Lea bibi na watoto ,mnachonga from morning to dawn hata pesa ya sukuma hu provide but unaenda kununua matawi ya muguka which lady can marry you?
Those countries you have suggested they have their young people working on those jobs you have mentioned. Why can't you suggest those young people t0 visit our country to join as partnership and work together to improve skills of young people both sides.
Dont tell us about Somalia, we are not terrorists , these sre just young people that are , tribeless and religionless , scare tactics won't work and we don't care if we will be around to enjoy the benefits, ANGUKA NAYO
Very interesting to listen very learned Kenyans analysing the top of the ice berg ONLY. Jeff you have a learned team. It is nonsense to assume gezs are leader less. The youth are the product of our society and the so called development partners. Don't isolate the young people. The old generation have failed young generation. Jeff soon if you will ask young people why we have police on the road, they will tell you to collect money. Bad things are happening in the full glare of our children 😢. From Moi onwards who has ever seriously addressed this problem? Why can't we have a team of policemen we can PAY WELL? Or empower saccos to police themselves., etc.?? This is just a small example of bad things going on from one govt to another. Young people expected a revolution from Ruto. Ruto was misguided by western advisors kuvinya the poor. Unfortunately he even attempted to make the elite pay kidogo. And now the "old guards" are smiling. They even want to high jack the genzs movement!! 🙄
Hello my people! I want to agree with a great suggestion that has come up. Why can we not have a total shutdown? If we are stopped from going into the streets, can we stop everyone from leaving their homes until Ruto resigns? Look, the 2 days per week is nothing to Ruto and his goons. I suggest we go a notch hire, let us do 30 days until he resigns. No plane will land or leave the country, no ship will dock or leave the country. Let me know what you think?
This man also voted yes on this stupid bill. He was also spoonfed on which position to lie on because of his own selfish agenda. Am sorry but am not going to buy your words sir. You don't represent the Wanjiku.
This man calls him a VC he has no mind I don't know how he got this position is holding. wrong advice you people retire go home let the gen z get those jobs
Kijana kichwa ngumu. Someone tell them that is the problem of learning while older. You seem things to be imaginable when we have already used them and seen what they can do if implemented. Wake up 😪😪
But Ruto said the church bribing missions have to stop but less than a month later he arrogantly tells his deputy to work with some priest and give him a quotation for remaining work It means he speaks to appease people aware he has other agendas He has opened others political class to hop from one church to the other seeking support
Hello my people! I want to agree with a great suggestion that has come up. Why can we not have a total shutdown? If we are stopped from going into the streets, can we stop everyone from leaving their homes until Ruto resigns? Look, the 2 days per week is nothing to Ruto and his goons. I suggest we stay we go a notch hire. No plane will land or leave the country, no ship will dock or leave the country. Let me know what you think?
I have seen a lot of Kenyan people compare there situations of Kenya to Somalia in this difficult time but as we speak Somalia is way better than Kenya at moment and a lot of Kenyan are going to Somalia to look for greener pastures and for those one who went Mogadishu will agree with me having said that Kenyan only experienced this problem only 2 months but Somalia was in crisis from 1989 we don’t want Kenya to go that way bcs it is one of best country in East Africa the people are hard working good in hospitality have all the ingredients that is needed only good leadership is what remaining
Jeff, it’s been the most balanced unbiased sober debate. More of this are needed from media houses.
We are not young we are just educated…The county will not be lost that’s why we have a flag and the constitution as the leader.
Fact is fact. Genz's are young. Not all Genz's are educated but they are very informed...n they need to listen to their parents b4 they go for maandamano... everyone has a parent, a guardian or a counselor...seek advice b4 you go n prayers
@@dandee7414and not all parents are education that's the reason you have been oppressed for 60 years ... Even a mad person can be a parent and old.
@@GhettoSportifffc but you have counselors who are educated or guardians...when a Genz's is injured, it's the guardian or parents that suffer n take care of them especially those with gun shot wounds
What if we want to stay home and not go to America, Canada or Europe?
I think this old people don't know what we want. We want to build our nation. Why cant our nation create jobs for us
Corruption is the problem
Why would I want to build a foreign nation while Kenya is still a third world??
This guy is so on point. Electricians , contractors , plumbers or any hand jobs in America pays as good as a nurse!
This was a very insightful conversation with great leaders on the panel. However, if this degenerates in the government weren’t as corrupt as they are, there would be more infrastructures, factories, better roads, provision of free trade and technical schools which would essentially lead to more jobs. It’s a trickle down effect. Corrupt leaders cannot lead a country successfully. It’s like the blind leading the blind. Kenya is God’s country and with His grace and wisdom, things will never be the same again 🇰🇪😘.
I support, lets vote for that young man i saw on Tv...he is very briliant
If the Gen-Z buy one grain of this placation , that will be very sad.
Geoff. The greatest patriotic interview from citizen tv for along time. Oh more of this.
Listening after people died.
Hello my people! I want to agree with a great suggestion that has come up. Why can we not have a total shutdown?
If we are stopped from going into the streets, can we stop everyone from leaving their homes until Ruto resigns? Look, the 2 days per week is nothing to Ruto and his goons.
I suggest we stay we go a notch hire. No plane will land or leave the country, no ship will dock or leave the country. Let me know what you think?
Which constitution suggests that elected leaders can be removed from office this way?
This kind of discussion should have a wider forum for more inputs soonest.
Mature communication. We need this more and more. i am worried of loosing my country as Kenyan
Apologist for oppressive government!
Call a spade a spade 😢
Imagine Hii Regime yote Cjawapenda Mimi.
It was a great debate. The message was healing.
I have never been thise prouder!.
McOure for president
GREAT MAN OF GOD OF MY LINEAGE@HON.BISHOP JACKSON KOSGEI...❤❤❤
Very sorry but there is a difference between a pick pocket and a massive money launderer who deliberately compromises his people’s position in the world. You have together been outrageous.
And Ruto was calling the young Genz criminals
This is a very creative discussion from a parental point... Great content of leadership
The youth are creative, knowledgeable but need wisdom from the older generation, no one lives in a vacuum
Can you identify the wisdom you are talking about after 60 years?
I've seen children as young as 8 yrs wiser than their own fathers!!!!! Which wisdom is this.. .from pple over 50 yrs ....doing n reading from the same same script.....64 yrs after so called independence!!!!!!
I cant be a refugee in a foreign land. I have to move back. To be part of the suffering. Am not a coward.
New suggestion out sde current saga. May you please invite Professor PLO and Bishop to discuss live?
This the right people needs to be President advisor there advice is really moving
Wonderful conversation🎉🎉
Please stop calling them kids that ia derafatory. They are educated young adults.
Bishop I am dissapointed. If we had proper governance we would not need to seek employment outside Kenya. You are missing the point.
A Bishop who voted yes while young people where being killed outside Parliament
The arrogant language before GenZ was too much.They never listened.
I cant afford to be a refugee. That is not me😂.
Asking the media not to be too harsh on the goverment.
Two good people and humble. Jeff you should be inviting wise men like these two!
These are people who benefit from the system. If Ruto is forced out anybody after him will try to do is job the right way. Maybe you guys have something to lose we don't.
@husseinmkanga7794 do you even hear yourself speak? Follow the constitution to remove a current president. A country cannot be void because you are agitated....
@@DrSting-vp3hd what constitution the police do not even respect court orders. Open your eyes.
Not the likes of Moses kuria and murkomen,
@epictozmediagroupemg3219 so you are choosing too not to follow the constitution?? So two wrongs make it right??....SMH
Social media has alot of advantages its important we weed out the disadvantages and the force behind it.
Reformation should be the right word.
Just few day after covid i moved to nothern part of kenya. During my drive around i saw children were outside the church Playing then deeper observation i realized the somalis were busy keeping the children busy by memorizing the Quran. I could help feeling some empty space in my heart and some guilt. It was not my place to make the change. Northern part of kenya is for everyone. I felt betrayed.
Mtazunguka Sana tatizo watu wa serekali wanapata salary ambayo iko juu plus kuiba lkni hii mishahara yao ingepunguzwa na ifatiliwe ukiiba unarudisha hiyo pesa na ukae ndani
If you are our parent y this happen for 50 years and your there..
Hawa watu wanona tuko wajinga sana …
They are the stupid old minds
Exactly…what wisdom would they be spewing now that evidently escaped them for 50+ years 🤷🏿♂️
Am currently reading a book called ' prey' i ordered based on my environmental observation.
As much as the security agencies have been blamed for using excessive force to the Genz allow me salute most of our officers who behaved very humanely in the course their duty.
We are definitely indebted to you.
May our good God also protect you.
The conversation ur having today is getting into our hearts.7m Kenyan according to our systems of education and jobs there totally out as if we don't need ther contribution
Great!
Am in training. So what is happening to the president of kenya is something that has made me not to feel at home at my location.
Go to Canada for sure , Canadian needs trade training,Carpenters, plumbers, drivers,cooks, housekeepers, caregivers, nurses, motor mechanics and so many others.
@@julied6339 rada
As Africans we had god before they brought their book of their God.
We nee more of these educative and mature engagements.
Mr President, you should not hide behind democracy to foster nepotism, corruption, over taxation, abuse of power and dictatorship. We can't allow you to rule us with an iron fist. It high time for you to reflect on your failures and stop shifting the blame to other people. Implement the constitution without favouritism. The rule of law should apply equally to all Kenyans but in your government, your close associates are above the law. We resist your inability or unwillingness to uphold the constitution of Kenya impartially. We gave you an opportunity to select a new cabinet but you have recycled your friends back. We hold you to the highest expectation. Nothing will change if you continue doing things the same way. It is time for a new paradigm shift or you ship out. Kenya belong to all of us and each voice matters. Listen Mr President. Listen to the voices of Kenya and respond accordingly.
You are NIT fighting against corruption. And never have.
Ruto has never mentioned a word fighting corruption, that's the main cause of this movement
When it comes down to individuals businesses the follow accountability to the latter but when it come to the public finances it painful to those given mandates to account.
Why shouldn't they trained on skilled workers within our country Kenya.
They real have knowledge for such things like plumbing, Mechanical, painting, small & big farming etc
Load of gabbage...... you tell us to listen to leaders who are compromised and don't listen to the people. Government wheeled propaganda. Good governance and stop corruption, accountability is key
Bishop Koskei, my man!
I stand out to be counted. Something 'they' thought the can manipulate. Not in my tuft.
I will be 'like good riddance, kindly dont return it'😂.
Very true we can not even marry what kind of parent you are
Girls don't want mama baby boys if u wait maandamano ndo mkaibe mali ya wizi hiwezi Lea bibi na watoto ,mnachonga from morning to dawn hata pesa ya sukuma hu provide but unaenda kununua matawi ya muguka which lady can marry you?
He voted Yes.
Peace and love always wins
Government apologists shame!
This is a government apologist,
Very sober conversation
But no one can believe what Ruto is saying. If he's true Christian, let him resign and make room for fresh start for better leadership
Those countries you have suggested they have their young people working on those jobs you have mentioned. Why can't you suggest those young people t0 visit our country to join as partnership and work together to improve skills of young people both sides.
They are Kenyan citizen and not children so to speak
CORRUPTION MUST STOP.
Ruto can't learn new tricks.
What a conversation ✅oooh my
Dont tell us about Somalia, we are not terrorists , these sre just young people that are , tribeless and religionless , scare tactics won't work and we don't care if we will be around to enjoy the benefits, ANGUKA NAYO
We have failed as parental
Leadership not listening and doesn't feel
The end is the means.
Am not a big fun of online shopping. I come to you look around fit and buy. Online is not a place i shop.
Very interesting to listen very learned Kenyans analysing the top of the ice berg ONLY.
Jeff you have a learned team.
It is nonsense to assume gezs are leader less.
The youth are the product of our society and the so called development partners.
Don't isolate the young people. The old generation have failed young generation. Jeff soon if you will ask young people why we have police on the road, they will tell you to collect money. Bad things are happening in the full glare of our children 😢.
From Moi onwards who has ever seriously addressed this problem? Why can't we have a team of policemen we can PAY WELL? Or empower saccos to police themselves., etc.?? This is just a small example of bad things going on from one govt to another.
Young people expected a revolution from Ruto.
Ruto was misguided by western advisors kuvinya the poor. Unfortunately he even attempted to make the elite pay kidogo. And now the "old guards" are smiling. They even want to high jack the genzs movement!! 🙄
Truly condescending BS.
A sober discussion it is
These guys are trying to buy time for Ruto
Leadership not listening
Leadership not see people
Leadership not feeling
The older generation has the mentality of ' usimwage ungaa. Am like 'wacha ni mwange ungaa and watch he takes it😂
No misconception about church on misleading citizens as alleged by bishop Kosgey. Majority of church leaders and politicians have a convergence point
Top brains
Hello my people! I want to agree with a great suggestion that has come up. Why can we not have a total shutdown?
If we are stopped from going into the streets, can we stop everyone from leaving their homes until Ruto resigns? Look, the 2 days per week is nothing to Ruto and his goons.
I suggest we go a notch hire, let us do 30 days until he resigns. No plane will land or leave the country, no ship will dock or leave the country. Let me know what you think?
That one is honestly marvelous..
Stopping anyone from going to school,work,no going in no going out,no landing no take off...
Reasoning for the sake of reasoning
Not practical....how do you stop everyone?? Some of GnZs are already backing down....and worse you are leaderless
Our problem is corruption, tribalism,greed and grand waste of gavaa resources.
These two panelists are government apologists.
PRESIDENT RUTO is not a problem. Corruption is always the problem to kenya
Huyu Bishop ata Pia nikaa anam sanitise... Ruto.. Hii regime yote ya KK Cjawapenda in any way.
but he listened after how much had been done on kenyans?
which life Jeff???
I think the priests have relevant points, maybe genz can give them a chance
Bishop we don't have leaders, the ? Is whom are you leading
If its 2 by 2 make sure you level up. Otherwise its that bad teste in my mouth. No one does that for me. Yaani in short simply put. Hatoshi mboga😂.
These old ppl are the problem in kenya
This man also voted yes on this stupid bill. He was also spoonfed on which position to lie on because of his own selfish agenda. Am sorry but am not going to buy your words sir. You don't represent the Wanjiku.
Change it an extend will Cool the temperature ruto risign peace gurded
Digital media technology started in 1960s tell these old guys.
Put it to context....where?
Stupid minds will never change
@@mosesototi2444 i started in 1969 in tech factory..
@@DrSting-vp3hd analogue dissipeared yrs ago.
@MichaelHeery I agree, this discussion was useless and from old people that should be retired in their beds
Problem the haves n have not, imagine how much you reaped as salary as an nominated mp doing nothing,, surely
This man calls him a VC he has no mind I don't know how he got this position is holding. wrong advice you people retire go home let the gen z get those jobs
Hii kiwete is here to support the butcher of our kids. 😢Mgengoa mguu zake zote.
I hope you are not married or still giving birth to your children
You are infiltrating the GenZs agendas! Wewe unahitaji kutembelewa
God 4give u....do u know what might happen to u 2moro????
@johndalton23....may God have mercy upon you kwanini useme maneno mazito hivi wow na Mungu akakulipe kulingana na matamshi yako never mock God
@user-td3oo1ye9n may God have mercy kwanini mtu aite mwingine kiwete wow na Mungu akimkata yake yote na pia mikono akue wakulishwa ooo noo so sad😭😭😭
Good. Abit b8ased lol
The church is a serious disappointment in those country.
Calling people children for exercising their constitution is insulting…anyone above 18 years is an adult…children are at Kindergaten.
Kijana kichwa ngumu. Someone tell them that is the problem of learning while older. You seem things to be imaginable when we have already used them and seen what they can do if implemented. Wake up 😪😪
Kijana ni baba yake …mzee mjinga mwenye anajivunia miaka to ila sio akili.
But Ruto said the church bribing missions have to stop but less than a month later he arrogantly tells his deputy to work with some priest and give him a quotation for remaining work
It means he speaks to appease people aware he has other agendas
He has opened others political class to hop from one church to the other seeking support
A fraudster
You🤨
If i dont buy. Its imparative you dont wrestle why. You dont know what i have on you. So dont act important. You are as nothing as i saw you...😂
I cant afford to be a refugee. That is not me😂.
Hello my people! I want to agree with a great suggestion that has come up. Why can we not have a total shutdown?
If we are stopped from going into the streets, can we stop everyone from leaving their homes until Ruto resigns? Look, the 2 days per week is nothing to Ruto and his goons.
I suggest we stay we go a notch hire. No plane will land or leave the country, no ship will dock or leave the country. Let me know what you think?
am agree with you
Viva Kenya
I have seen a lot of Kenyan people compare there situations of Kenya to Somalia in this difficult time but as we speak Somalia is way better than Kenya at moment and a lot of Kenyan are going to Somalia to look for greener pastures and for those one who went Mogadishu will agree with me having said that Kenyan only experienced this problem only 2 months but Somalia was in crisis from 1989 we don’t want Kenya to go that way bcs it is one of best country in East Africa the people are hard working good in hospitality have all the ingredients that is needed only good leadership is what remaining