These old screw-drive vehicles were the shit back in those days. Between this and the Fordson I have no idea why they never caught on for rough terrain transport. Although I know we truly have some great things today, I sure miss those good old days pictured in this video.
Problem is...it didn't really work. It was ok on water, ok on snow, and GREAT on mud, but barely moved on sand and didn't work on firmer ground. The US military wanted it for amphibious operations, and so weren't really interested in a vehicle that only worked on half the terrain. A great idea, a clever piece of engineering, but not viable as a military asset.
Feb. 5, 2019---Thanks for the info as this is the 2nd video I've seen on it and wondered what happened. However, apparently the Russians are using it. There's even a 1/43rd scale model kit available of it.
It may have had its limitations, but it's usable over a larger range of terrain than a snow cat. I think the idea could be developed to be more versatile on more types of terrain.
It was made for swampy areas...They were using these at Paris Island SC in 1972 as a rescue vehicle and did great though the pluff mud and swamps...So not useless.
I imagine that the sideways motion could have made it able, to navigate in the sand... The very large surface area of those pontoons would have enabled this machine to. Work on the soft sand... I'm thinking that two sets of pontoons on either side, could also be mounted on a turn-table, and rotated 90° to give it 4 pontoons supporting it for forward/rearward motion in the soft sand... These machines are AMAZING in the snow, and the water is a place that few TRACKED OR WHEELED vehicles were originally designed to operate... This one does...
This vehicle is distinguished from its wheeled counterparts in the light weight of its rotating cylinders and the increase in both the contact area of these cylinders and the coefficients of friction with the surface due to the auger, which increases its friction force with the soft surfaces, which enables the vehicle to easily walk over unstable surfaces such as snow, sand, mud and even over water so that it can these rotating cylinders act just like paddles.
I always what happens to vehicles like these. I could not find out the fate of this vehicle. Is it in a museum, did it get dismantled, or is just sitting in someones backyard somewhere as a rusted pile of metal.
These vehicles were meant to run on marsh. Marsh is basically mud so filled with water it has the consistency of a thick fruit smoothy. If you ran _any_ type of vehicle on that it would leave just as deep tracks because of how deeply it would sink. In fact the pontoon screws spread the weight out fairly well and allowed the vehicle to "float" across such terrain, other propulsion systems, such as wheels or continuous tracks would get bogged down and stuck, unless they were impractically wide. So no, the "mess" (tracks) would be just as bad on this type of terrain regardless of vehicle. Hell even walking across it would leave very deep imprints. (Assuming you don't just sink and get stuck.) The reason why screw propelled vehicles are fairly uncommon is that they work best only on mud, marsh, snow, water and such conditions, while not working well on harder surfaces. For example, the Marsh Screw Amphibian shown in this video only has a top speed of one and a half mph (1.6mph to be specific) on regular soil and sand. So basically, it was so slow it would be faster to pull it by fat people. Their use is so limited in aspect of compatible terrain they serve very little practical purpose in most areas. However screw propelled vehicles are still designed and built today for places where the mud and muck is simply too much for wheels or tracks, as well as for mining. The heavier ones are often used for their ability to dig out large grooves with their passing as a way to help dry out areas with too much water, commonly in mining operations. Lighter vehicles that don't have the deep penetration to make such grooves are better suited transport in normally inaccessible terrain. (Thick mud, marsh, etc.)
This is a great idea that came out in the 1920's by Ford , that was re-applied by Chrysler in the 1970's... I wonder what it would take to build one of these... $ can be made by pulling off-roaders & stuck travelers of various types, out of trouble with this machine... At the very least, taxi people and their personal gear from the stuck vehicle to the point of Solid ground... Come back for the stuck vehicle later, with heavier equipment...
It seems that it was first designed in 1868 by a US citizen from Missouri, and first patented in 1907 by a US citizen from Maine. Got any Russian patents earlier than that?
Wrong. The earliest Russian screw drive was the Zill, developed in the 19950's/60's to retrieve cosmonauts from Siberia after landing. Screw drives have been used in North America since the early 1900's. czcams.com/video/Fo31_3UzTTY/video.html Only difference is that back then they were advertising its merits in the snow.
Why could you just manufacture a tire system for that (like a straight line of rubber that attaches to the spiral) then make it an everyday road vehicle - I'm sure lots of people would prefer parking in that style!
That wouldn't work. Unlike a wheel which is moving in a linear motion of forwards or backwards, corkscrews are moving from side to side and get their forward motion by digging into the ground and pushing back on it, with the screws moving in a counter-rotation (spinning in different directions) as to cancel out the sideways movement. (Usually. As shown in the video this sideways movement can serve a purpose.) If you tried to put rubber on that and run it on roads it would create way too much friction and either burn the rubber off or strain the engine and transmission.
An absolute must-have
...but only if it plays this music
Shrek's gonna be pissed when his lawn is screwed up
Agreed, my father was an engineer on the program.
225ci Slant 6 - bulletproof motor. 👍🏼
Bulletproof you say, handy in war time
it must have been incredibly heavy and inefficient but looks so wicked going sideways!
That music is so good
So sad corporations never continue to innovate. they just want to sell.
So many industries are like this too.
These old screw-drive vehicles were the shit back in those days. Between this and the Fordson I have no idea why they never caught on for rough terrain transport.
Although I know we truly have some great things today, I sure miss those good old days pictured in this video.
Problem is...it didn't really work. It was ok on water, ok on snow, and GREAT on mud, but barely moved on sand and didn't work on firmer ground. The US military wanted it for amphibious operations, and so weren't really interested in a vehicle that only worked on half the terrain. A great idea, a clever piece of engineering, but not viable as a military asset.
Yet again another piece of engineering has gone to waste such. Pity.
Feb. 5, 2019---Thanks for the info as this is the 2nd video I've seen on it and wondered what happened. However, apparently the Russians are using it. There's even a 1/43rd scale model kit available of it.
It may have had its limitations, but it's usable over a larger range of terrain than a snow cat. I think the idea could be developed to be more versatile on more types of terrain.
It was made for swampy areas...They were using these at Paris Island SC in 1972 as a rescue vehicle and did great though the pluff mud and swamps...So not useless.
I imagine that the sideways motion could have made it able, to navigate in the sand... The very large surface area of those pontoons would have enabled this machine to. Work on the soft sand... I'm thinking that two sets of pontoons on either side, could also be mounted on a turn-table, and rotated 90° to give it 4 pontoons supporting it for forward/rearward motion in the soft sand... These machines are AMAZING in the snow, and the water is a place that few TRACKED OR WHEELED vehicles were originally designed to operate... This one does...
This vehicle is distinguished from its wheeled counterparts in the light weight of its rotating cylinders and the increase in both the contact area of these cylinders and the coefficients of friction with the surface due to the auger, which increases its friction force with the soft surfaces, which enables the vehicle to easily walk over unstable surfaces such as snow, sand, mud and even over water so that it can these rotating cylinders act just like paddles.
It was found to be only viable on smaller machines and suffered reliability issues when under heavy load.
You should try your hands at the "Marsh Screw Amphibian". It was the first corkscrew tank design.
Dear Santa...
Honey we need a new car?
-You are not getting a new car...
What about a lawnmover? We need a lawnmover!
I always what happens to vehicles like these. I could not find out the fate of this vehicle. Is it in a museum, did it get dismantled, or is just sitting in someones backyard somewhere as a rusted pile of metal.
It sits in Vicksburg MS, I drive by it everyday! Oh and the larger one that was built too.
Wow! Then your father knew and worked with my father. Those were exciting days at Chrysler.
Putting one of these on my bucket list...... :)
A build myself one, ka kamm engineer.
Do it got cup holders? I ain't seen no cup holders.
+Philip Mango You diverse a medal for bringing that up.
We can engineer cup holders!
What about coat hooks? Does it have a radio with a CD player? 😁
Cañoneeerooooo.... cañoneeeeroooo... ♪♫
thank god for chrysler engineers. where would humanity be without them? (probably in the same place as it we are now)
Wrong makeup better
It's no wonder we've never seen one of these since. Look at the mess it left behind!
These vehicles were meant to run on marsh. Marsh is basically mud so filled with water it has the consistency of a thick fruit smoothy. If you ran _any_ type of vehicle on that it would leave just as deep tracks because of how deeply it would sink. In fact the pontoon screws spread the weight out fairly well and allowed the vehicle to "float" across such terrain, other propulsion systems, such as wheels or continuous tracks would get bogged down and stuck, unless they were impractically wide.
So no, the "mess" (tracks) would be just as bad on this type of terrain regardless of vehicle. Hell even walking across it would leave very deep imprints. (Assuming you don't just sink and get stuck.)
The reason why screw propelled vehicles are fairly uncommon is that they work best only on mud, marsh, snow, water and such conditions, while not working well on harder surfaces.
For example, the Marsh Screw Amphibian shown in this video only has a top speed of one and a half mph (1.6mph to be specific) on regular soil and sand. So basically, it was so slow it would be faster to pull it by fat people. Their use is so limited in aspect of compatible terrain they serve very little practical purpose in most areas.
However screw propelled vehicles are still designed and built today for places where the mud and muck is simply too much for wheels or tracks, as well as for mining. The heavier ones are often used for their ability to dig out large grooves with their passing as a way to help dry out areas with too much water, commonly in mining operations.
Lighter vehicles that don't have the deep penetration to make such grooves are better suited transport in normally inaccessible terrain. (Thick mud, marsh, etc.)
I need this..
I wanna drive this stuff! But today such perfect amphibious vehicles are dead ;((
True American engineering has died
American made and designed, by Chrysler.
A link to my father's patent on the drive train can be found with a search for
"US pat. 3395671 1968-08-06"
David, I drive b it every morning at work and the larger one that was built too. We have them on display.
The Fordson snow motor was at least 30 years before this. Hardly a new concept at the time. Slant 6 would have been a great power plant for it.
There was a larger version powered by twin 440's. I had heard that the fuel consumption was horrendous due to the drag of the screws.
I'm wondering how it'd be on a thick hard road...
colinfurze
Wow, what a great use of taxes. Seriously.
I hope these are still put in use today.
Fit it with a damn suspension lol
It looks like an M29 Weasel... But with Screws as Drivewheels...
Amazing Technology, since the Fordson Snow Devil...
Engineering at its finest!
perfect. it just shreds shit. lol. i love it,,
Slant Six!!!
AWESOME
this reminds me of the old robot saying
just don't take a short cut across the golfcourse!
Fordson had conversions in the late 20's, Tractors and cheverolet's. Not floaters :O
Cool!
Fordson snowmachine 1929
Sprinkles are for winners
Damn right!
This is a great idea that came out in the 1920's by Ford , that was re-applied by Chrysler in the 1970's... I wonder what it would take to build one of these... $ can be made by pulling off-roaders & stuck travelers of various types, out of trouble with this machine... At the very least, taxi people and their personal gear from the stuck vehicle to the point of Solid ground... Come back for the stuck vehicle later, with heavier equipment...
это ускоренная запись или он такой быстрый? В СССР разрабатывали такую технику, но судя по видео она была медленней.
how much does it cost 2 get one
Russian invention! No way! Anthony Rieli invented it when he worked for Chrysler
Corp. I know, I was there. Russians took the idea from us.
See.... fordson snow motor
Yet America abandoned this innovation. Seems that America's loss is Russia's gain...
У нас газ такой же в 1970делали
Now I believe in aliens.
I WANT ONE
this was first done by Fordson tractors in 1929 ..now Chrysler ..then the Russians built the same with larger pontoons
i wonder how amny billions it to to get this prototype going for the demo, only?////
yes video 4 cyl fordson tractor conversion 1929
I wish i had such a vehicle........n screw everithing on my path.....Screwing around! Screw! Screw!
I want it
That music gave me depression.
the guy is a screwdriver
beautiful. thank christ the public didn't get one! destroy shit!
Good old america.
can that thing run on normal road
nope
No stopping what Chrysler engineers can do... Copy fordson tracter co from 1929.but still super bad ass. Just needed a 429 max wedge
Just like the SHAGOHOD from MGS3....
Kills everything it touches, must be American made
Copy poory the ZIL 29016? Great achievement.
Shut up and take my money!
wetlands schmetlands...........................alligators aren't that friendly anyways.
THIS IS A RUSSIAN PATENT NOT AMERICAN.
Amazing Blaze yet, they were the first who made it in space
It seems that it was first designed in 1868 by a US citizen from Missouri, and first patented in 1907 by a US citizen from Maine. Got any Russian patents earlier than that?
Wrong. The earliest Russian screw drive was the Zill, developed in the 19950's/60's to retrieve cosmonauts from Siberia after landing. Screw drives have been used in North America since the early 1900's.
czcams.com/video/Fo31_3UzTTY/video.html
Only difference is that back then they were advertising its merits in the snow.
Ford proved the concept in 1929 with one of his tractors.
czcams.com/video/Fo31_3UzTTY/video.html
Sorry pal, I drive past this thing every morning on the way to work.
when is tha army going to put these on there tanks insted of tracks
Slap a Hemi in there!!!
DAAAAYUM look at thing go on mud!!!!!
Looks to be the same brain that posted a post full of typos, grammer issues and a non functioning capslock.
It's made for the snow and mud. No shit.
o that sucks
Why could you just manufacture a tire system for that (like a straight line of rubber that attaches to the spiral) then make it an everyday road vehicle - I'm sure lots of people would prefer parking in that style!
That wouldn't work. Unlike a wheel which is moving in a linear motion of forwards or backwards, corkscrews are moving from side to side and get their forward motion by digging into the ground and pushing back on it, with the screws moving in a counter-rotation (spinning in different directions) as to cancel out the sideways movement. (Usually. As shown in the video this sideways movement can serve a purpose.)
If you tried to put rubber on that and run it on roads it would create way too much friction and either burn the rubber off or strain the engine and transmission.
useless on rock climbing, asphalt, steep rock slopes, loose your grip on a steep rock slope and your done for
They copy a russian evention !!!
copycats
liars...invented in Russia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw-propelled_vehicle Nope. James and Ira Peavey of Maine, 1907.
goes anywhere.... eccept public roads!!!! 😅😅😅
Soviet project..
Fordson snowmachine 1929