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The biggest innovation of all is the improvement in camera technology so we can see what's bloody going on.
My thought exactly.
Blame compression
The 1870's cameras were very good! They seem to have got worse since.
LOL. yeah and DVR
And more ground level camera action.
First video ever recorded: 1888
This guy: show footage from 1870
''Why, good day to you, sir. What a fine match you just played!!''
''Thank you, kind man.''
''Say, would you like to play an exhibition match for charity?''
''Certainly.''
''See, we have envisioned just for fun what tennis might look like 140 years from now in the year 2019. Just step into this metal carriage...''
''Carriage? Well, where are the horses?''
''Oh... um.... they'll be here soon. We can step inside while we wait for them.''
''Oh, all right... and who will be my main rival?''
''His name is Novak Djoković. He comes from Serbia.''
''The newly-independent Principality of Serbia?''
''Yeah, that one.''
''I can't imagine those savages knowing anything about proper tennis. I imagine the match will be like a leisurely walk in the park.''
''Oh, I'm sure it will. I am sure it will.''
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Serbia didn’t exist back then. Serbia introduced in 2006. Could’ve just used Roger for the story, would’ve made more sense.
@@jimnosnow4484 Actually, the scenario is set in 1879. Serbia became an independent country in 1878.
@@jimnosnow4484 dude are you special Serbia has existed for like 1400 years.
What happens next? :P
My game is sort of at the 1870 level ...
Stephen R Martin my game is sort of 2018😂
So you still hand over the ball like a present to your female partner in mixed doubles? Such a gentleman!
Mine is so bad, that lady in dame attire can bagel me! That's why I don't play.
Roger Federer rules no one gives a fuck
Stephen R Martin: you can still beat some modern players.
Two-handed backhand and topspin of the 1970s from players like Connors and Borg changed the game. Racket technology of the 1980s (bigger surface area and lighter) gave all players more power and control.
Someone explain how video recordings were clearer in the 1870s than the 1970s . ....
Obviously a re-enactment, and fairly silly. There was no moving film let alone video in the 1870s. I would guess it was shot around 1910.
Film was around in the 1890s.
@@dianventer382 Well than when was it? Because there is no recordings present to the 1890's
@@EJP286CRSKW Well, if that's the case the film is still better than the 70's
guys ....i was just wondering where they got a video from that far back......................a STAGE ..maybe?
I have in my possession a few photos taken by my great uncle while working in St. Moritz in 1929. In these photos are candid shots of Rene LaCoste, Jean Borotra and Jacques Brugnon, three of the "Four Musketeers" of French tennis in the 1920s-30s. Pretty interesting stuff. All the more so since I'm a pretty serious student of the game. The funny thing is, my great uncle didn't even play tennis, he was a jazz trombonist who was playing in the hotel these people were staying at. One of the photos is a large group shot that has the three tennis players, Sonia Henne, the Olympic skater and Harold Lloyd, the actor as well as some unidentified people. I'd LOVE to be able to identify everyone in the photo, but don't know who would have that kind of knowledge. My great uncle passed away years ago after suffering from dementia, so that avenue is closed.
Is there any chance that i can see those photos ? Have you published them somewhere ?
7:26 that defense
Is there some high-res of this point? What a rally!
You can watch with a quality a little bit better there : czcams.com/video/YwQI4V1FXCM/video.html
Thanks, I appreciate it :)
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I go to job interviews dressed like tennis players from the 1880s
Federer said one of the biggest changes in the game was the introduction of new string technologies in the 2000s. Believe he was referring to co-poly strings. That was not mentioned in the video.
String is the same for every player on this planet , but skills are very different.
Federer uses gut mains, poly cross. Nylon strings been around forever. I doubt if today's plastics are better than gut except in durability, water resistance, and price. Federer can afford gut strings even if he paid for them himself. Big, wide racquet heads give you a lot more power than the old wood racquets enabling magical shots with little effort that would have been impossible with wood. Other big changes are grunting, fist pumping, tiebreakers, big money, line calling machines. Best change--so many gorgeous female players today.
@@zoranknezevic6347 except some players benefit from it more than others depending on their technique
@@tomcourts4252 wrong, poly allow for heavy topspin. Do you think pro players would opt for full poly if gut were better ?
@@newtonfirefly3584 whats good tennis racket?
Chapter 1: 1870s
Chapter 2: 1890s
Chapter 3: 1890s - 1970s
Chapter 4: 1980s
Chapter 5: 1990's
Chapter 6: 2000s
Chapter 7: 2010s
I feel like you kinda phoned in chapter 3, dude.
I wish I could go back to 1870s just to flex on them
Would suck if you still got beat tho lol
I won’t lose to aged people playing tennis with weird clothing on plus I go to tennis classes and I’m pretty good at it
You probably suck. Also, you’d have to use their wooden rackets, which would probably make you suck even more.
The next 10 years : Nick Kyrgios brings the underarm serve , which in modern tennis , was ignored a little
I respect his style, the sport is dying and changes to the strings, courts and ball and hurt the game in my opinion. As it killed off serve and volley, and a lot of diversity of styles, touch and feel players. Now baseliners hitting the ball like a baseball bat dominate.
A well executed one-handed backhand is one of the prettiest shots in tennis. It's a shame so few players use it anymore. I do, but I'm a far cry from the pro tour.
Normally I use two handed backhand but for passing shots i use one handed backhand because i can do more topspin
One handed is too weak
A lot of good players use slice. Shame it is no longer taught properly, along with half volley, forehand slice.
FullOilBarrel my slice is a flat low shot that isn't weak also easy to do short cross court shots that double handlers hate watch federal bring opponents up easy to pass them or lob in lower grades
Lol the best backhands in the world are one-handed
I realize that the topic was how the game evolved but several players that were important in the 1960’s may not have been mentioned. I got to sit behind the baseline and watch Rod Laver play Ken Rosewall in 1970 on a red clay court. Rosewall’s slice backhand was so accurate. But Rod Laver could slice it, drive it or drop it off the BH with so much disguise. They both had great all court games. It was a chess match on a tennis court. I was fortunate to have watched both Connors and McEnroe play live. Nobody had more touch and feel on the volley than McEnroe. Connors played with an energy level and was so much fun to watch. Use he was famous for hitting hard but he knew how to attack the net or run down a great shot and stay in a point. Today I love to watch Roger and Raffa play. They are the modern versions of Laver and Connors.
Correction: players are forced to play out more points because of the slow court speed, compared to other decades. This allows defensive players more time to react and return
that' video resolution quality from the 1880s is pretty LIT.
Great historical video but script was scrolled by too fast to keep up with and enjoy.. redo it and slow down the script
Just pause.
David Dyer I'll try it.
I agree, the text was way too short-timed to do the reading. While pausing the vid would be a solution, that's not the best idea to enjoy such video 100%. Still, it's a nice mini documentary, just the videography could have been better.
Totally agree. Couldn't get past a minute due to this reason.
Reuel Ray Or just slow down the video to 0.75 worked for me
Man everyone forgets about Pacho Gonzales & Hoad (pro & amateur/grand slam tennis didn't merge until the late 60s). Played some real monster tennis from what I've seen/ heard, for the 1950-60s
Good but imperfect video. Still enjoyable
3:27 Ryan Gosling could play Borg in a movie. Wow
Good video thanks!
Very good job. Excellent
Fantastic video
the evolution of tennis is amazing!
You can see the evolution of tennis by the destroyed patches of the grass after Wimbledon...😅 these days the grass in the middle and centre of the court is in perfect condition!
Very nice video.
Epic!
great video
Tennis must remain as it is now and not change drastically.....
? empty stands ? I think something is needed
The best video
Borg had a sort of semi-two handed backhand: in the end of the follow through he released one hand.
It is funny to see the wood racket; so heavy players would often move without holding them up: you can see the racket hanging loose, being held by one arm as they run around.
BB had a rh bh with a Lh assist - note his 1h follow thru - the modern 2hbh is a LH fh with a rh assist
Next step in the evolution of the sport of Tennis: complaining about 'sexism' and/or 'racism' after getting caught cheating (coaching) or due to bad behavior (smashing rackets)
Next step is having people who don’t know the game, participants and nuance of the situation stop offering ignorant, sexist and racist comments.
@@supashibby5215 agreed
Great video!
Could you shorten the time that the text appears? It's not quick enough! I can read at least three words before it fades! Thanks.
Watch on 2X speed
Amazing
Great analysis!
One gripe; (and I know I do have some brain rot) the three-line text groupings went by a little too quickly for me...had to backtrack to finish two groups.
Thanks!
You can pause the video.
@@planetX15 shut up
Very interesting video... Thx for creating. For me, out of all the changes and evolution, is racket technology... And for better or worse it's created power baseliners galore. Couple that with the slowing down of surface and balls bouncing higher it seems like virtually every tournament has the same feel. Would love to see tennis go back to playing on three distinct surfaces. IMHO, it's too homogenized at present.
where can we see this explanation and citation of this.. kindly share
No one:
Me at 3 am: Tennis Evolution Throughout the Years
Fun video. Great beats too. Conners though? LOL.
Please contunue your work in this way: each type of shot (show 5-10 examples) should be synchronized with the text talking about this shot (or movement..)
thanks
Back then, form was based on aesthetics and had nothing to do with bio-mechanics. That is why what was improper form then is the proper form now...
Hello! I would love to use this footage for my research collegiate seminar project on the inequity of women in sports. Is there a chance that I can gain permission to use this? I will give you guys credit!
Great video.
Thank you. Would be nice to make one where you speak instead of writing (too fast).
Very poorly done video of a sport that needs to be more deeply explored. I've noted that even as recently as Rod Laver the purpose of the service seems to have been only to put the ball into play. And I believe that tennis has evolved more than any other sport and today truly deserves the epithet "the beautiful game".
Greg White Laver was 5' 7"". Serviing aces is not a money shot for anyone that size. Ellsworth Vines was serving two aces per game in the early 1930s. Bill Tilden used to serve out a match by taking five balls in his huge hands, serving four aces, and then tossing the fifth ball to the umpire, in 1920s. Kramer had a huge serve in late 1940s, Pancho in 1950s. I saw 120mph serving in 1963-4.
@@EJP286CRSKW In the '70s, Roscoe Tanner was serving in the 140 to 150 mph range. And that was with a classic-size aluminum racket.
Xander956 Indeed. Ditto Steve Denton. And Bill Tilden was timed at 160mph.
In almost all games physical power and alert brain for quick reflexes have become dominant, that is reason training has become more important covering all aspects.
good enough for a thumbs up from me, even though video didn't exist until 1890 something so not sure what we are looking at but it makes your point. Sponsorship and TV made the game more popular in the 70's and led to a "global game". Top 100 used to come from 10 -15 countries now 30 or so.
Motivational video for new Sampras :(
quite informative vid clip, thanks! @2:39 it's "Connors" instead of Conners :) I see it misspelled throughout the video... :)
I think I watch that first clip 30 times. LOL awesome
It's like a ballroom dance, very posh and sophisticated.
Idk why but at first it looked to me like they rebuilt this scenes
@@lukash6566 You're right. It does a little bit.
Very nice music...
So much history
Is the footage at 1:06 real historic footage? If so, it appears large head rackets were in style very early !
1:37 he actually did splitsteps
Aluminium racquets came before graphite ones, dude.
T2000 was steel. Aluminum racquets were used by numerous players on the tour for about 15 years. Graphite didn't replace wood and aluminum completely until the mid to late eighties.
d thorne roscoe tanner used aluminium great racquet too
10+/10.
They needed to have mentioned how polyester strings changed the amount of topspin players generate allowing longer swing paths!
My favorite forehand and baseline tennis player is Steffi graf.
My opinion: lose the music and have someone narrating. Don't know why video makers feel the have to have music on everything.
2:53 Ken Rosewall Vs Tony Roche US Open Final 2:6 6:4 7:6 6:3
What year is the first video from? Really good quality but cant be from the 1870:s......
You should have mentioned the changes towards slower surfaces and towards slower and higher jumping balls.
Wimbledon even uses now bigger balls.
Because of top spin
So you guys know this isn’t the actual footage for the time periods
Esperaba ver mas imágenes de lis 1800 y tempranos 1900 increíbles imágenes las del principio
Es que todos los deportes, comenzaron para distraccion de las familas ricas, despues de merendar , incluso jugaban con la ropa que usaron para ir a la iglesia , banquetes, colegios.
OH YEAH YEAH
What material was the footage between 1870-1895 based on?
Imagine Federer traveling back in time to the 1890s and playing tennis... hah
Am I seeing things correctly? It appears that at 0:42 a woman in the 1880s hits a couple of forehands with a windshield-wiper follow-through... To examine it closely, pause the video just before 0:42 and use the "." (period) key to advance the video a frame-at-a-time [the "," (comma) key backs up the video a frame at a time).
Upvoting you because I didn't know about the frame thing...
It's not a learned technique, it's just a description of what people do when faced with various problems, human mind seeks to solve them and God is the teacher. good observation!
The early films are reenactments. The play may not be historically accurate.
@@MaxArt2501 Agree 100% thanks for teaching the frame at a time technique. I'll use it a lot. And yes, she does do at least 1 Nadal reverse forehand.
i changed my serve to 1890's-1960's serve and i get it in everytime
3:52 .... brutal rally!
Look at those outfit back in the 1800's!! As the years go by, the clothing started to evolve.
Will there be a day for the naked tennis someday?
@ontrackhere may i ask what is the background music name ??
That won't help get rid of it.
Would be even better if you include the evolution in footwork and hitting pace.
最初から画質ええな
Can we call this a "Bad history of the evolution of tennis". Just concepts mostly lacking facts... and a poor depth on the technical aspects of modern tennis.
omfg the first videos hahaha cant stop laughing of how funny it looks
The 1970s were a crazy time. Grown men and women playing tennis with no tennis balls.
I enjoyed that long rally between Becker and Lendl ... Amazing point won by a net ball.... LOL
They were all wearing suits while playing. Amazing!
Who is the guy in the black and white photo in the thumbnail, looks like a great photo.
Yup really good just slow down the writing.more tennis history please
Why is the 2017 part only at Laver cup?
Description does not match with the screen image.
Well the tennis racket made she hit 50% harder than the day the racket technology
Awesome video. It is so nice to see images of tennis from the 19th century !
I think you could have talked about the surface change throughout the years, and also mentionned how Federer raised tennis level in 2004-2009
Around 2003-2004, grass courts and hard courts suddenly changed slower and bouncier. The game suddenly slowed and baseline bound. And that is when Federer and modern baseline game came along. It's not necessarily better tennis. Tennis now is just different game.
Cube Science it just Wimbledon and US Open courts surfaces changed rather abruptly 2003-2004. Top players suddenly faltered and Federer rose with baseline game. It's not as special as people think. He enjoyed changed tour environment until nadal became strong enough in 2008.
Cube Science The video recordings at the begining is not from the 19th century, at least not from as far back as the 1870's at least, since the technology to display moving pictures or film didn't even exist. It's possible that very late in the 1800's, close to the turn of the century, someone captured on film someone playing tennis, but I doubt that's what we're seing here.
Lol,
Federer emerged as a Serve and Volley player basically!
And was succesfull for a few years untill Rafa and Novak's emergence..
Eventually had to adapt the game of baseliner to compete in the pro baseline era of today!
@@kwansikkim8712 You're right about the courts but wrong about Federer as he's not a modern baseline player but rather a well rounded all court player.
After football (soccer), it is the second sport that I like the most.
I think they should have some modern tennis matches with opponents wearing the dresses worn by the 1870's female players. I'm not saying this would be great tennis, but it would certainly be entertaining.
You forgot to mention the use of Polyester and Hawk eye. I think both are also game changer in the modern tennis world
Nice. But too fast to read.
Little advice: You can pause a video. Click on the two stripes below the video at the left side. Then you can read.
sleepy55 excatly. I am gonna press pause .... trhoughout the whole video ...... thx.
I did it and it went well.
Really groovy music! Where can I find it? :)
Here is a link to the music czcams.com/video/i0LjZXQtJtE/video.html
1870年、その格好で良くテニス出来たな。
It's a pity that the courts became much slower. Now there are some "hardcourts" which are slower than " fast claycourts". I have to say I really enjoyed those times when players especially top players were trying to make clear winner shots. Federer, Roddick,Safin,Gonzalez,Davydenko,Nalbandian,Blake etc...Then Nadal came and showed the world that awesome footwork can be succesfull on every court not just on clay. He didn't have serve , volley, only basic baseline shots and amazing footwork. You don't have to be talented for running. You can achieve it in the gym. Nowadays there are many players in TOP 100 who sometimes can't finish the point from the T line, but they wont miss a ball from the baseline. If the situation is not that good they just lob the ball with some spin and the point starts again. If two of these players meet each other that a F***ING boring match. Now tennis is first being a really really good athlete than being a good tennis player. I hope in the next 10 years grass and most of the hard courts will be faster a little bit. The difference between courts became very thing. It's unbeleivable that last year end championship in London. Dimitrov could have won the event and he had only one match ( against Busta 6-1 6-1) where he hit more winners than faults. That's a disgrace for tennis. Now Roland Garros is going.... the court is soo slow. Most os the players doesn't want to hit first serve at all. It has no point for wasting energy on first serve and it almost has the same speed at the baseline as the second serve....
Now you have players like Caspar Ruud making it to major finals and world number 2. Has to be the lowest quality world number 2 ever. Purely a ballbasher
Music name ?
Voiceover ? 😎🎾☕
I think Guillermo Vilas deserved a mention when you talked about 2 top players hitting topspin
RF is the best change that ever happened to Tennis.
Uh what? RF IS the greatest in Tennis due to his accomplishments, but he wasn't part of the modernizing generation. That took place even before Roger came along.
Djokovic will have more GS titles than RF.
Lendel got power into Tennis. Becker proved importance of a booming serve
I'm not an expert but I'm prettyyy sure they didn't have video capabilities in the 1870s and even in the next few decades. I think those videos then were a bit later on than that
Nice video, although you should mention Pancho Gonzales, he set a blueprint for the modern serve.