History of Caterpillar Engines | Diesel History Episode One - Part 2
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- Hello! This is the second part of the first episode of our new series Diesel History! Last week we covered the history of CAT engines before WWII, this week we cover their history afterwards. If you're a CAT 1693, 3208, 3406, or C15 fan, you'll definitely want to watch! Next episode... Cummins.
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Nice coverage of the truck engines. Would have hoped the big CAT's (D379, 398 and 399) were have been mentioned. Served as an engineer and skipper on many a Bering Sea crab boat with these beasts as main engines. We used 3306's for generators and hydraulic pumps. One trawler had two D353's as mains. After putting a rod through the side of a D353, we bought what was supposedly the last D353 rigged as a marine engine from Peoria in 1982, shipped it to Alaska and had it fishing again in three weeks. Loved those engines, slow turning, tons of torque and a pleasure to work on - life was good. Worked on one trawler with those screaming jimmies leaking oil everywhere, couldn't wait to get back on a CAT boat!
Caterpillar , One of the best engines ever made .
Best dozers in the world. Other companies can’t touch CATerpillar dozers. They damn near invented the tracked type tractor and early into dozer manufacturing. One day I hope to restore an old 50s cable drawn D-2s and D-4/5s. Love old iron. Learned how to operate a dozer in a 76 D8K open cab with a D-342 engine. What a monster of a Diesel engine. Nothing extra just simple reliable mechanical IDI turbocharged diesel.
Old Swirl chamber motors . I had a 1693 in one of my Pete’s back in the day . It always sounded like ping pong balls bouncing around in a coffee can .lol. My trucks now have C16 s in them. Two 2000 379 petebilts .
Nothing like driving a truck with a cat engine, sweet to drive and sweet to listen to, you always knew how she was running 😁
How about the 32, 33, 35 and the monster 36 series.
I'm an electrician and have installed quite a few 3512 and 3516s driving generators. The largest 3516 I've worked with had 4 turbos and would produce 3200 HP @ 1800 RPM. During testing, at 100% capacity, it burned a bit over 150 gallons per hour. I'm not completely sure of this but if I remember, the manifold pressure was somewhere around 100".
And yes, it was just a bit LOUD........lol.
I have run locomotives that were converted with 3516's/ 3000HP very nice.
As you can see from the videos, CAT made a lot of poor design decisions. The 1693 was indeed a great engine however it had a some drawbacks: very heavy for its power (because of the overhead cam), a single cylinder head which was unwieldy to handle (Cummins had the right Idea with 3 heads) and the pre-combustion chamber which lowered thermal efficiency. Something that is rarely mentioned is that repair shops (mostly big company shops) can affect what the company buys - if the mechs hate working on them and it take more time then the company will use a different brand. Don't get me wrong - I love CATs but I think it was chicken shit that they ran from the trucking industry because of emissions since they would eventually have to deal with it in marine and industrial - this also gave the other brands a head start on emission controls, and quitters don't make winners.
Thanks for covering the D337 roots blown engine. I remember one scraper water truck with that engine. It was pulled out and replaced with a 3406A. Great video!
From 0:38 new visitor
The 3406 and 1693 are both legendary to me
Great video! The part @0:39 made me think someone had hacked my headphones though 😂
I used to work for CAT San Antonio. Took pride in knowing we were one of 3 of the best diesel engine manufactures. We machined the C9, C7, C13, C15 blocks and C175 and 3600 heads.
I absolutely love this show
Every major motor builder is having a hard time with modern emission regulations. CAT got out of otr because it made sense. They make their nut on construction equipment and dont have to deal with it. It's a loss for truckers, but you can't blame em'!
You're absolutely right.
They were also using junk parts from China that were failing.
@@bobwilliams3502
They also had problems they knew about and refused to fix them, like a cylinder liner would be too low compared to the other liners. Instead of fixing it, cat would replace the head gaskets until it ran out of warranty, then the owner got stuck with the problem. the fix was remove the liner that was too low, put a steel shim under the sealing lip to get all the liners to the same protrusion so the head gasket could hold. Too much work.
The original CAT truck engine was the 4 cyl 1670. Also worth noting: The 1673, 1674, 1676,, 3306, 3176, 3116, and the 3126 truck engines.. There also was the D336, 3306, and D346 V8 in scrapers, that built the freeways in California.
And probably a 3208 in one as well
what about you forgot about 3208 3506 V8
I meant 3508
Let's not forget the C10,C13 and the 1LW. My truck is a w900A with 1LW Cat with a 13 speed. Love the channel btw. Watch it all the time thank you
Great info thanks!!!
I love a cat engine my dad has a 2004 379extended hood with the C15 500 and it is stupid strong but I like your videos you explain stuff pretty good and know alot
Nothing like cat power. Love my 3406b in my 92 w900l. I do specialize hauling and am grossing out usually around 250,000 lbs. it pulls like a beast. And no it’s not stock hp. I figure it’s a bit over 500hp and not sure the torque never had it on a dyno but will walk all over any new engine from Cummins or Detroit.
I love the b model in my 87 w900
It's a dozer motor.
MMI equipment in Ashland Ky has a rd 800 Mack lowboy tractor with a 3412 in it it's a beast.
3412 was never sold by Cat as a truck engine, though a few were shoehorned in by lunatic owners. Way too heavy for OTR highway use.
CAT Please come back! 😢
air to air 3406B was introduced around late 1985 early 1986. i believe it was a 7FB prefix.
1984 was first ATAAC (as an option on Pete/KW) for the 3406/3408B.
My 87 w900 has 3406b 7fb prefix. Ataac
@@davidroberts2404 sweet! my 1986 w9 has one too. factory set at 400 still.
@@johnowen6507 mine was a 425hp. But I've tweaked it a bit and added 7" straight pipes, dual ss breathers etc. Will be tearing it apart over the winter if all goes as planned for repainting cab,sleeper and chassis.
@@davidroberts2404 awesome dude! should throw up a video when you get it all shined up. have an 1989 379 exhd daycab that has a 425 that we turned up, thing runs well. take care man!
I glad I am not the only one that wanted to know about the other. Engines your not speaking about. There's a lot more information about Caterpillar they even own EMD and that an entire engine you could do 2 or more videos on.
Informative
I had a 77 Peterbilt 352 110 inch cab tractor with a 3406A 400 hp and 14613 Road Ranger. I miss that truck. Fun to drive. Lot's of power.
I miss the old 3208, 3306 & 3176B. Actually i miss every old engine 🤔
The 3306...what a legend!
For a while I was coming across 3208 both the truck and Marine versions. I maintain several of them. A pair were Marine versions in the same boat.
I would love to see a video about Cat stationary generators.
I hope they come back.. maybe make a 90 degree normalized 3408. He forgot to mention their 3208. the only normal road going v8 they ever made.. 10.2 liters or so.
The big block 3408 was engineered to use the 60 degree V because it was determined that would not fit between the hoods and frame rails of any of the Class 8 tractors. The E9 Mack was a smaller engine that Mack was able to fit in their products.
to everyone in making these videos. excellent job! the content is so informative and the presentation excellent. I can't wait to see all new upcoming videos, cummins, Detriot, etc...
Thank you!
I can't wait for international diesel video. There dt466 and dt360 has to be one of the best medium duty engines ever made.
Cat has been the most resilient company to the stricter epa regulations I think that they will probrobly be one of the first to develop an engine that will meet emissions but not need any def.
They allready did it's called a C9.3B
@@dropout75 where there any specs released
@@dropout75 well from what I've read those engines do use def according to cat.
Nevermind, the C9.3B uses way more DEF but has no EGR, got my acronyms swapped around. But they're in the new 336s. Things run over 200 degrees so it burns super clean but the added heat creates more NoX hence the added DEF use.
@@dropout75 well that would mean no dpf but def targets NOX so I would think that even those engines would have it. Honestly I can deal with dpf but def is just time and money I never wanted to wast.
Should do a video on the history Detroit diesel engines
They suck nuff said
Why no 1674 for over the road ? Not everyone had a 1693 back in the 70's
If it ain’t a cat it’s a dog, and dogs kill cats. #cumminspower but thank you guys for putting good content on the tube.
What about Detroit diesel engines
Long live the C15
I miss my 1693 cat
I’ve herd some comments (can’t remember the sources, but I think it was from a CAT rep at a trade show) that CAT is working on a heavy duty truck engine that will meet the next round of emissions standards before they release it.
I'm sure they will make it right, before they release it.
I want to see this happen!!!
They used c18 engines in Finnish Sisu E18 model with 630hp, those are mainly dump- and logging-trucks.
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I like another veiwer ask why you totally ignored the famous Caterpillar industrial and marine engines like the 6 1/4" bore series , D353, D379, D398 and D399 which were followed by the larger D3508, D3512, D3516 there are even larger ones now. and how about the 3412. I worked on the 300, 3400 and 3500 series engines.
What about the Caterpillar/ International partnership with the C-660 truck that is Cat powered. It had a C-13 and didn’t run that great. My uncle had an 04 M2 Freightliner with a C 13 that ran like a champ. Also drove a 769 mine truck with the 3408 in it, with the bed lifted it was 5 feet of straight 6” exhaust puffing the sweet smoke and sound of a Cat!!! I can still hear it in my head!!! Also drove a 2000 Pete 379 with a C-12 420hp Cat that I loved driving.... The Paccar MX-13 is the closest engine I’ve driven that can run close to the way a Cat does...
Love my 3406E, but I used to own a Freightshaker with a 3176. Didn’t see any mention of this engine.
Because it's a pile of shit...
Missed the c27
What about cats venture with navistar? The ct13 and the cat based maxxforce 15?
"Much larger member to the D3 family" @ 1:45 basically sums it up
Great video, I was on a website that talked about Caterpillar being painted white, I know paccar painted high horse power cats white 1986 to 1989, do you have any history on Caterpillar being painted white
And don’t forget the HP common rail quad turbo 4800 hp c175 20 cylinder
I'm trying to find a date on the difference between a pre combustion 3406a and direct inject 3406a
The c7 is also used in the military fmtv. These are the trucks that replaced the duce and a half and 5 ton trucks
What is fmtv?
@@PoliticalGangster Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles
0:45 those are ALL International TD series crawlers with Bucyrus Erie blades. Not a touch of yellow in that picture
There was a reason for that, Caterpillar did not want to tarnish their reputation.
Cat Rules!
Buenas tardes sus videos son muy tenicos gracias por favor tradusirlos para entenderlos.mejo que Dios los proteja siempre hasta pronto gracias
C18 was used in trucks in Australia
most of my family including myself have worked there at one time or another. My Dad and other family have worked at the engine plant . It has now been torn down and the field returned to its original condition !!!! Engine production was due to shut down in late 2007 due to a legal loop hole they were allowed to continue to build using pre 2007 parts !!! The emissions are now at the time so strict they want the air cleaner coming out than it was going in !!!! The new standards would require a complete redesign of every engine in the fleet
You also forgot to mention the POS 3126!!!
In part 1
Or the pos 3116.......or the d333......ect. ect.
about the 3176 model??
You guys going to do Detroit Diesel
Of course
Make a part 2 of Cummins
What about the DT466?
I gotta day, as a mechanic for a fleet that has both Cats and Cummins, I prefer to work on the Cummins. They are just easier to work on.
What about cat large bore and marine engines
What about the heavy oil equipment construction industry? Like the c777
Good video but it was all about on-highway trucks -- no mention of Cat's 6.25 bore engines (which were/are legendary in the oil field industry), 3500 Series, 3600 Series or C175 engines; not to mention the acquisition of MaK, MWM or EMD, all being venerable engine brands. Interesting that even though EMD is mainly a locomotive manufacturer they also sold their loose engines which become the standards for inland push boats in the U.S. and for off-shore drilling. In fact, the 3600 Series was basically introduced as an EMD-beater.
5:43 Ive been there. Rented a roller crimper
Can’t beat a 3406 😆
TwinStick Garage says the little brother of the 3408 💪🏼
Lyndell ya I’d love a 3408 in my next build if I could find one but no jakes on the big 8 though ... sniff
I was always a 3406e guy 550 hp. The reason I liked the 3406 over 3408 was weight and 2. A e model 3406 made what the 3408 did.
Didn’t hear mention of the 3208.
I’m not seeing very many people chasing after either the 3408, or 3406B. A lot of demand for the 2WS and 6NZ. 2Ws is elog exempt. Cat will be launching a 2WS reman soon, that will have a new block, head, crank, cam, pistons, rods etc. in fact the only thing reman will be the water pump and air compressor. Cummins and DDEC will be accepted as partial core for anyone who wants to re power. Starting 2021.
There are engines that turn diesel into noise and smoke and then there are cats.
Where's the 3208 V-8??? 🤔
I know of a C15 that ran for 50k+ miles before failure with an impact bit in a cylinder.....
Dang!
Instead of sending people to go though all the videos looking for part one have somebody show you how to post a link to to it.
Wasn't these engines nicknamed kitty cats
You forgot the 3506 yea it did not live long but still great engine
There diesel engines can always move anything at anywhere at anytime and still kick power and torque at anytime when you will need it the most
I’m guessing your music got hit with a strike?..
Yeah ☹️ CZcams overlords aren’t playing nice today.
Jack's Chrome Shop know the feeling, sorry to hear it.
Loved the video but you left out a LOT of engines. 3412,3500 series, 3600 series, 398, 299, 3300.....
Cat 1160 ?
You forgot all about the 3208.
I own a cat 3116
WTF nothing on 3306
It started out a a massive pos, d333.......then became only a large pos.
D333 turbo??
You guys sure did skip alot of early models.
Only reason I watched this video, was to learn about the D333.
We still have one being ran at work, but it's not even mentioned.
Sorry, too many engines to mention. Ya know?
The only engine that should be in trucks
3208?_ 1160?
CAT never called first 3406A it was just 3406. 6NZ series still had same problems as other E-models. ACERT blocks and heads are far better had more nickel in cast iron. Of course everyone will SCREAM twin turbo was the problem but it was never turbo problem. I seen few ACERTS that just ran like 6NZ wasn't lazy throttle. So many changed them too single turbo it runs so much better. But the also tuned it too it was software change that made it run not just turbo
You forgot about the weird cat/navstar engine
That was a piece of junk Navistar engine painted yellow.
The infamous maxxforce 13 and 15...
DETROIT Cummins Caterpillar são os melhores motores do mundo. Favor falarem e escreverem direito .
C.A.T Fan
the military runs cat engines in all their heavy trucks
missed a ton of engines
SIMPLY...THE BEST!!!! IF IT'S NOT A CAT...IT'S A DOG!!!!
I bought a 2 million mile dandy.
Next needs to be Cummins
Completely disappointed, I was hoping for information on the 3208, and got nothing.
What I have heard 👂 is cat is only building engines for construction equipment, and that is it, no tractors, no trucks 🤔
Correct. Been that way since 2010
They also own EMD, which still builds locomotives (primarily manufacturing older units)
y was a caterpillar truck engines white
had a c15 twin turbo what a piece of shit wouldn't get over 7 mpg and was always in shop for turbos and oil leaks
Why were some white ?
You can always use the Caterpillar diesel engines in your next frankenstein monster truck project and they can always still push out a lot of torque and power and still kick a lot of ponies out of the engine and transmission as well it can always do the job at anytime