WES HAUCH Explains Metallica Tuning
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2021
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A fairly in-depth conversation about James Hetfield's guitar playing and Metallica's tuning choices, with brief demonstrations from Wes Hauch of Alluvial. Hauch's guitar resume includes stings with Black Crown Initiate, The Faceless, and Thy Art Is Murder. Listen to the full two-hour-plus Speak N' Destroy episode with Wes wherever you get your podcasts.
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I've met Wes a couple of times in LA, we have friends in common. Not only he's a phenomenal player, but he's an awesome humble person. Respect...
read a interview with the mixing engineer of master of puppets once. I guess the reason the rhythm playing is so tight on some of the songs on master of puppets is they detuned there guitars a half step down and recorded it at a slower bpm than the release and sped it up 10 to 15 more bpm in the final version. Which uptuned the tuning as well about quarter step.
the breadth of Wes' knowledge and the way he obsessively talks about his instrument, there's no wonder he's such an incredible player! awesome interview man.
Agreed! And thank you.
I just found this podcast on spotify ! I love the super deep details they talk about. When I saw Wes Hauch name I clicked immediately he's a awesome player and knows a ton about metal. Those off tunings were and still frustrate me to this day!
Welcome aboard!
The song Master of Puppets was recorded slower and then sped up. Flemming said this in an old interview. Not sure if this has any significance.
It is absolutely significant. I think that's what a lot of dudes miss, most of the songs released on the radio around this time was either flat or sharp, and that had more to do with the recording/mixing/mastering process than it did the artists' preference. There's also the speed to consider; You can record 3bpm slower at 432hz and speed up for 440hz at 120bpm for example. During the interview they said it'd have to be a hell of a coincidence for everything to be at 432hz, but the equipment's speeds back then were such that 432hz was landed on pretty commonly. Some equipment (tape machines, etc) had selectable speed settings, some had linear speed adjustments. Point being that I don't think it's that much of a coincidence at all.
Thing is when you speed up a song in analog, the pitch is supposed to go up, not down. Ride the Lightning's tuning is just a tad bit sharper than standard cause they sped up the songs in post.
@@guisantovski I read once that the Ride the Lightning tuning is slightly sharper because the anvil at the start of For Whom The Bell Tolls is in A=445hz
Great discussion
Thank you!
Man I enjoyed this
Thank you!
This is great stuff
How...or why is this video in 360p....only two years back????What the hell??
Good question LOL. Will avoid in the future.
Greyhound 🚌 joke was on point Wes 😂
where's the rest???
Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, wherever you get podcasts! There's a link in the description, too.
Cliff would neglect partying when he needed to practice, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if he was on that intellectual book shit. I mean he’s what elevated them to being able to write shit on Ride the Lightning, even if he wasn’t specifically reading about the pyramids I’m sure he was the one who knew the 432hz method.
Does sanitarium sound different when played at 432? I wanna say Leper Messiah was 432 bc it sounded dark and they weren’t doing any open string things like Sanitarium, chugs don’t get affected as much.
On another note, Megadeth did their first two albums a quarter step low bc Dave wanted to be different. There’s a theory that he wanted to make the riffs difficult to decipher, but I think he was just being heady and wanting to be different from metallica, especially if they were sporadically doing 432 (I also believe Metallica tuned 1/4 up in some RTL tunes)
432 in metal music sounds great in theory but fails hard in practice.
It's great if you need to play one note at a time, but when you try harmonize, especially in the higher register, it absolutely falls apart and everything sounds like a dissonant nightmare where nothing harmonizes. Basically the reason we play 440 is because of the consistency in harmony. Tune it higher or lower and things start to get messy.
As I said, it's great for one note at a time type of thing but try playing complex rhythms with chord intervals and it's just horrible.
@@omramoryth I 5000% didn’t need that explained to me, you repeated the same point like three times.
How is PUPPETS SO PERFECTLY tuned to 432???
I mean DEAD ON.
Kiss tune to D/C# standard I believe
We were doing 432 with my band for a little while. I had to kindly beg everybody just use the normal tuning. This shit is great but wtf guys. There is no reason for this other than "because"
This science in frequencies and tuning the guitar back in 432 going back classical from the Ancient Greeks including the Enlightenment era,It wasn’t until the 1940’s the U.S.A. Adopted this change and after the 1950’s the world followed suit,from 432hz which is divisible by 3 whereas 440HZ which is divisible by 2. The theory goes that 432Hz is also more connected with the 8Hz “heartbeat of the planet” (also known as the Schuman Resonances), as well as being the “frequency of the universe” and our DNA.
But it gets a little deeper why,in addition The physical nature of the two frequencies are pointed out by Dr. Leonard Horowitz in his paper “Musical Cult Control”, but he goes even deeper into what he thinks are the reasons why we went from A=432 to A=440.
Horowitz claims that there was a conspiracy between the Rockefeller Foundation and Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels in changing the standard because “herding the populations into greater aggression, psycho social agitation and emotional distress” was necessary to create a war mentality. Supposedly the Rockefeller Foundation had strong financial interests in weapons of war at the time, and of course the Nazi’s had strong interests in, well, war.
In my opinion,this was also an act against government as a lot of these Metal bands we love such as Metallica and especially Megadeth,spoke against government and the ill psychological effects afterwards.An act to not adopt this change perhaps maybe from the engineers in the studio at the time?Who knows,but an interesting thought as to why these changes applied in music and how they affect the psyche.
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This is completely untrue, pure fabricated nonsense, and easily debunked if you take the time. I know exactly why concert pitch A was set at 440hz, and it has nothing to do with Nazis or "magic" frequencies.
Metallica recorded slow and sped it up back in the day tro make it as tight as possible. This is the temperment you refer to.
Needs to turn his guitar up.
Slightly flat is the point he's trying to get across
432 hertz has positive effects on the human body... 440 not so much
I think Metallica may be into the occult.. look at the demonology guitar.. Kirk has that essence to him, but the you read things like the tape recording being sped up on master and that’s the explanation for the tuning. Who’s to say they didn’t want to rub ruling family’s the wrong way? I can see it being explained in several ways and maybe it was by design.