Diablo 2 - Tips, Tricks, and Things you never knew!
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- This is a list of tips and explanations that may help you out in your D2 gameplay. I know it's not a super condensed nice YT video, but that's because I'm a live streamer and I just cut things over. Someone in the comments below has listed all the timestamps so I have pinned that to the top if you're looking for anything specific! -
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0:00 Resistances and immunities
9:40 Conviction aura interactions
13:35 Strenght bugging
16:55 +dmge modifiers
28:46 upgrading items
51:30 Infinity(and similar items) interactions
54:30 The Anya bug
57:30 Damage reduction
1:03:57 Synergies
1:05:30 Item prefixes and suffixes
1:11:55 Gambling
1:18:40 Funky magic find and item drop interactions
1:27:00 Sorcerer Energy Shield tips
1:35:00 Life gain mechanics
1:37:45 +skills on mercenaries
1:40:45 selling to vendors trick
1:41:45 map layouts
pinned. The hero we deserve!
Was there anything about orange (crafted) items? I think you could make some recent rings with that, although I haven't actually played D2 for a descade or more.
Ya I craft items every now and then for fun. Haven't crafted anything good yet
Tal rasha bonus, is better for MF. (Belt 15%+Amu+Armor) try it
Yep I use that now. I didn't have tal's amulet at the time haha
This is probably the most in-deph D2 guide on CZcams, and people in the comment section be like "how did you get more stash?" or "why didn't you edit this?" as if their brain has withered from industrial top ten videos of tips and tricks. I'll take a moment to appreciate, I played this since the dawn on of time and even I learned something new. You don't know what you don't know, so sometimes you can go on for years without knowing something as basic as the Anya bug. So thank you.
this is mostly generic stuff for people who are too lazy to read through arreat summit tbqh
most ppl probably don't know what's arreat summit and don't have it lol
this doesn't even touch complicated things like per-frame-damage
gets wrong about magic immunity and blessed hammer
doesn't know normal/exceptional/elite before googling (calls them tiers)
doesn't know the difference between uniques, superuniques and bosses
etc etc etc
@@TheExai This guy has multiple world records in d2 yet you talk like he's an idiot 😂
Yes there is more complex stuff in d2, yes he might not know everything.
This is a FAQ, not a no life's pk guide or a course on how to become a d2 speedrunner.
If you consider EBug to be noob stuff, good for you. I played for years and did not know certain things he said.
I'm Mfing with this in the background, and literally moments after you mentioned that Pindle can drop a spiderweb sash but not an Arachnid Mesh, Meph dropped me my first ever Arach Mesh :P
i feel like it's these hidden secrets and tricks and mechanics that actually contributed a lot to what made diablo 2 so fun and exciting
Sorceress has amazing magic find due to this one secret trick! Necromancers hate her!
You won't believe what Pindleskin does next!
what trick is that?
lol Blizzard synergies and cold mastery.
99% of people fail this test!
Literally every video title ever
im confused, what do you mean this secret trick or was it just an attempt to troll?.
About blocking; it's bugged to hell. Blocking an attack also always causes your next attack to miss, without exception. If you keep left-click (attack) pressed while blocking, especially when surrounded, you may end up never hitting anything. So it's not just the blocking frame recovery. One can realise the importance of this, when one considers skills like Zeal or Fend, where an entire sequence of attacks miss, if one does not stop attacking immediately after blocking. Blizzard never fixed this, of course...
Blind Target doesn't just reduce the monsters' sight radius. It also prevents mages from casting spells. Very useful for a Necromancer wanting to protect his minions from, say, a Hak'u Shaman's fiery breath or a Cantor's blizzard.
wait Diablo 2 has a BLOCKING button........
O.o
@@diamondsfinest9386 No. A blocking chance.
Assassins don't use keys?! WHAT?! 1,000's of hours into D2 and I never knew that.
I just learnt that from your comment lol
20 years of D2 and I learn this now.
Lol same
Hehe always a noob 😜
Wtf
UPDATE: Anya bug has been fixed by blizzard
Recently starting playing this again and it certainly holds up even today. Nostalgia considered, it still has a charm no other game can really replicate. Glad to see others still enjoying it.
2% milk tru dat
Man I've been watching this vid several times, still finding it interesting and great how you manage to create that relaxing atmosphere. Thank you for that.
I love that u use starcraft music for backround, u truly appreciate blizzard's clasics
Feels like im learning for an exam
try playing Path of Exile, feels like you need several masters, phd's.
Just play PoE :) Its even got whirlwind (cyclone).
~46:29
The Chance Guards calculation only makes sense if you somehow start with 10 defense. So I looked it up and apparently if you have enhanced defense % on any item, it will always count it as having the max base defense + 1. So Chain Gloves can normally have 8-9 defense, therefore it's counted as having 10 defense. You can get 20-30% ED on them. If you get 20-29% ED, they will have 27 defense total (it always rounds down). If you get 30%, they will have 28.
I don't think this applies to upping them though.
Most underrated comment.
The video itself is awesome, but imo this was the only part with a mistake. Especially, that there was a guy in chat who had written the same formula (ed gives maxdef+1 always).
And sadly yes... with his Balrog Skin example, it was seen that this factor vanishes after upping (it whould have converted to 1388def). So he was right about that.
@@sdave89 unique items with %ED always spawn with the max def possible for the base item. when you up an item from exception to elite (or normal to exceptional) it randomizes the defense roll of the base item, and then adds the ED. 98 def is max for magefists, FYI.
Small correction: you should always max telekinesis with Energy Shield. With lvl20 TK you get a multiplier of 0.75, which is essenciall 25% DR to mana.
havent played this game in like 13 years just bought it again
Nice!
37:50 technically incorrect, there was an eth bug before 1.10 that we used in 09 which involved an eth item having a zod rune socketed in 08, before 09 socketing a zod removed the internal durability stat. If you removed zod afterwards you'd have an eth bugged item that instead of getting the double dipping defense bonus was just eth and indestructible, so players could use it.
People duped tons of eth bugged arreats and swords for fury runewords.
this is correct. they reapplied the etherial status to an item that had a zod rune removed with the cube recipe. this process indirectly created the higher defense socket cube recipe to roll a random amount of sockets. Also, the max sockets that an item can have dictates the % chance of a certain number of sockets for, say, an armor. it's 25% chance for 1,2,3,4 sockets. not a 1/6 chance for 1,2,3 or 3/6 chance for 4 sockets.
Regarding chancies @49:30 -- Whenever an item has enhanced defense, the item always has max base defense.
Archon plate def range is 410 to 524. If an archon plate has 5% ED, it will ALWAYS have 550 def (524 x 1.05).
That broodwar music just gets me excited every time I hear it. Awesome video.
"it can't drop the same unique twice in a game" ooohhhh so that's why they're called uniques. I never knew that lol.
@barbara gill yeah, ive once droped 3 nagel in 1 game xD
it used to be that way, but it was patched as getting SOJ was way too easy..
@@jimmyrekosuo3045
Yeah. The way how people did was get themselves both nagel and manald stashed somewhere, and just gamble the crap out of rings until it roles unique. And if that happens, it WILL always be soj.
@@JohnnyCasey really? I always thought you had to wear Nagel Ring and Manald Heal.
@@NinjaSushi2 No, they just needed to be IN the game. I had them in a stash and my buddy got a unique drop in den of evil and he got a SOJ. Pre Expac I think?
Just found your channel.. so happy to see someone making D2 videos! You got my sub! :)
Yup, I'm about to watch an almost 2 hour long video of a game I havn't played in 6 years. I think I know a lot of this too. I was a super nerd ^^ NOSTALGIA!
this is actually a really informative video with a ton of info and explanation of the mechanics was very useful thank you
Brilliant video, I learned a lot. I was really enjoying it right up to the point when you found Arm of King Leoric and then THREW IT ON THE GROUND?! LOL
I want that item so bad, I almost choked when I saw that hahaha
I throw a lot of stuff away haha :P
This is awesome, you are explaining things that i didn't even know when i was playing D2 back when i was child.
Any chance you could play SC:BW? That background music is getting me. XD
I do love me some SCBW. I've got some vids on my channel of it (I think I have a playlist)
MrLlamaSC SCBW?
starcraft brood war LMAO
starcraft : broodwar
great questoin bra; one of the greatest games ever; way better than sc2
the strenghtbugging it's amazing all thou, i'd say have like some items in your bank that gives + to strength before you decide to minmax, or like some grandcharms that you can swap to to equip your min/maxing gear.
knowing all of this makes me feel so nostalgic
15:25 javelins casting amazons with nothing in their hand xD, that produces weird mental images
xD
bug str.
Jason Dunne ghost dicks ;)
LOL he rolled a 720 armor to a 1080 on a youtube vid. Ithink that's funny :D
HD - FHD
nice :D
im waiting for part 2! Awesome video!
30:08 I believe that upping a unique item only upgrade the base item to the next level (normal -> exceptional -> elite), changing its base stats (e.g. base dmg, base def), but it won't change the unique item's mods (e.g. ED) that the unique gave. So it won't upgrade the unique item to the next level unique - it's just the same unique but with better base stats. It also doesn't reroll any of the existing magic mods. It does reroll the base item's base stats, as mentioned.
Thanks so much MrLlama! Definitely using this for D2R!
Love your videos bro!!!
Is it true that the -resistance debuff in Nightmare and Hell difficulties also applies to enemies, like he mentioned?
This makes me wanna play D2 again. It's been a long time.
Dood. I sank thousands of hours on this game. Diablo 3 aint got nothin on this.
So Did I back in 2004 as Tifas-Revenge :) Once you have the first-hand experience of levelling up from 1-99 as fast as possible, you really don't forget that huge marathon you ran, especially since it lasted just over 6 weeks.
97-99 took for fucking ever lol
I'd say D3 has more to offer, when you've played D2 so much and done everything it gets boring when you can easily get to lvl 80 in a few days from a new account.
In D3 I haven't even been too Whimmyshire because the spawn rate for the items and monsters was so low.
Path of Exile. Its more of a successor to diablo2 than diablo3 is. Free to play but not pay to win. Don't take my word for it check out its steam rating (93%) and videos. The skill tree and the gemming system is amazing.
Scott Humphreys it's a skill forest
16:23
"I have not found Mang Song yet, no"
Took you 4 years :D
Lmao
people thought i had a map hack with how fast i could find the next levels back when i was playing d2 back in the day. but it just came from with knowing how the maps could be generated. this was a long video but a lot of cool things i never knew. thanks!
thanks! Ya lots of people just assume map hack but it's pretty cool how it's all generated
Here is a super good tip I have never heard anyone talk about. A super budget way to keep your merc alive is to give them that unique helm that "blinds target" when striking. Everything your merc hits won't attack your merc. Super budget way to keep you merc alive with what ever life leach you can get on a weapon and or armor.
Edit: also I think make "target flee" is a super under rated ability for a merc. That you use with a sorc anyways. Another super budget way to keep your merc alive if you have nothing else. It also doesn't matter if the enemy runs cause your a sorc and can kill at a distance.
I'm intoxicated on whiskey, I like this video, gj mate.
Ever considered doing guides for end builds stat priority and overall item explanation ? I would love to see some of those. Really enjoy your vids keep it up :)
I've thought about it, but I actually much prefer early game-mid game stuff. End game usually just gets too easy in most games and I don't quite find it as enjoyable.
Hi. Thanks for the tips. May i know why do your inventory have so many pages? Mine only have 1
btw, i think if you put more points into TK(past 16) it starts to act like physical reduction and resistances for your mana were normally your phys reduction and resist don't count towards the dmg to your mana. People don't use it because of mana leech.
This video needs to be put into your guide playlist
u had me at diablo!!!
Love that he has the music to Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time playing. Double nostalgia.
There's also this problem with traps and +fire\lightning damage% - apart from not receiving the elemental bonus by traps, the bonus from itself is actually displayed in character stats.
Have a high strength amulet in inventory and equip before picking up body will help you pick up body much safer, original amulet will go to the inventory slot so just swap it out later
17:00 - wrong.
An "adds X damage" modifier to a weapon is applied SEPARATELY from and AFTER the %Enhanced damage mod.
i kinda like the idea of the conviction auro overwriting, because if u have more knowledge the spell doesnt affect u, i like that
You have quite a treasure there in that Horadric cube.
i think biggest bug that many peoples dont know about is when you equip merc with +x%dmg jewel the bonus will not work even its showed as boosted on merc stats (im not sure if that applies also on +x%dmg items tho)
Ya there's a lot of issues with the +%dmg stuff. It works in weird ways (I think same thing for like if you have it in armor and stuff)
Star craft music on Diablo video, nice :)
NextDelay is a thing that come into play a lot more often in some D2 mods than in the base D2 game. I had some ideas for characters in Median XL that were basically nonviable in their entirety because of it.
So the conviction aura overwriting thing is due to how auras are coded. You can only be affected by one of a given aura at a time, so if one paladin has a level 20 fanaticism aura and another a level 10, the game picks the level 20 as the one that affects both. The issue with conviction comes because the conviction aura graphic that shows on your character when you activate it signifies an actual conviction aura, it just doesn't have any affect on you for obvious reasons. This is fine until we run into another conviction aura. The "only one aura" rule still holds, so your benign conviction aura on you can be overwritten by a higher level non-benign one from an enemy, but their benign conviction aura isn't overwritten by yours, meaning your conviction aura effectively doesn't do anything at all versus that enemy.
1:32:11 NHD tststss MrLlamaSc:
The tornado skill deals two types of damage "on Collision-dmg"+"periodic dmg" both deal the same total damage (correctly shown charscreen).
Only the on collision dmg have the 25frames next hit delay (with last collide entry and is blockable). The periodic dmg is an area dmg (radius 1.5 sub-tiles), it deals damage during the first 16's 31's frame and is unblockable).
0f = cast; 1f = 1 pdmg, 10f: 1.cdmg => 25 f nhd (incl 34), 16f: 2.pdmg, 31f: 3.pdmg
32f:last enemie contakt, at 35f: NHD ends
Watching this made me feel like I was back in high school where you had that one teacher that had absolutely little to no focus at all. lol only 10 minutes in and I feel like drawing on my text book.
With Tgods belt and wisp you can heal from lighting damage with 75 res, it's super handy with boss packs of gloams
Blackhorn's Face is good for that too.
You aren't wrong, I just feel like helm is a more valuable position than rings in D2, lots of +2 skills, damage reduction, IAS and all sorts of goodies in helm slots, as compared to rings, but it's a more reliable choice to be sure and I normal have one on my Merc.
I like how how their is brood war music playing in the background.
keep it up llama good stuff!
Thank you!!! Thanks to your video i now have so much stash space!!!! Thumbs up and subscribe from me! also thank you for the great info! Been playing Diablo since D1 and stil learning alot!
Wooooop, keep up all this new material coming. So much unique and great ideas. One idea off of my head, speed run with 8 characters, each a different class and a different mercy lol.
MrLlamaSC when are you streaming? I think I could watch it tomorrow
mrllamasc.com/schedule/
MrLlamaSC I checked it. It said on Monday you would stream 7:30. I went to your twitch and it was a musician you were hosting. Tomorrow will you stream cause I'd love to see 7 different classes all working together. 7 classes and maybe another sorc or fishymancer.
Ended up streaming at around 8:30 on Monday because I had to make dinner for the week. We ended up running I think 5 of the classes though across 8 players?
I may be wrong here, but I'd like to post something about +dmg for those interested.
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+dmg is actually 3-4 different stats from what I understand.
1. +dmg (base)
2. +dmg (Min+Max)
3. +dmg (Max)
4. +dmg (Min)
1. The first stat is actually the weapon damage stat. This means that it is the first thing that is calculated in the damage formula (with +enhanced weapon damage%) and it is the most relevant overall. When you add to this, it causes everything that uses the stat for damage to be increased rapidly.
2. The second, third and fourth stats are different stats entirely from what I understand. They are added after the first formula is completed. Meaning, they do not count for the +enhanced weapon damage%, rather they are added on top of that after the original calculation is made. This means that these three stats are much weaker as a result.
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To elaborate further, the first stat is the real weapon damage, whereas the second, third and fourth stats are bonuses that are added after the first damage calculation for weapons is completed.
The reason why Grief is so strong and other weapons are not (relatively) is because the +dmg stat is actual damage for all of your attacks that use base dmg as the base factor. Whereas many other items that give +dmg (Min+Max), +dmg (Max), and +dmg(Min) give those bonuses in such a way that it does not multiply as a base weapon damage factor.
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It goes without saying that I may be wrong here, but this is what I've gathered after some searching.
damn man, wonderful video, thank you so much !
130% cold/fire/lightning immunity and above is unbreakable even with a level 25 Conviction. 150% - res. all Conviction works at 1/5 efficiency --> 150/5=30; 130-30=100% resistance, still immune.
Possible breakable immunity by additional lower resist curse (by necro or by item charge)
dude im watching 3 of your videos at once! what have you done to me?! your content is awsome. and I love diablo 2
coming backk after maybe like adecade to the game on battle net this is very helpful thank you.
your tip about the crystal sword is a good tip in norm cows a normal crystal sword will socket to get 4 sockets any where else it will get ether norm-baal=1 socket nightmare -hell end=6 sockets
nice vid! Just wish we had such a stash on bnet ^^ -- how do you see the item level ? Or isn't it (legally) possible on bnet?
great vid! quite a few things i never knew and ive played over 10,000 hours lol
When an item has %ed, it will always have the maximum roll for base defense. The exception are upgraded items, as for those the base defense gets rolled when upgrading. One of the reasons why perfectly upped (or double upped) bloodfists are worth quite a bit. Diablo drops ilvl 94, nila 95, baal 99.
Yep just remembered that. It's those pesky re-rolls that can getcha
I know this was posted over 2 years ago, but two follow up question:
1. If I give a merc Insight (which gives lvl 17 Meditation aura) then give him a +1 to all skills helm, does that add to the meditation aura?
2. Anything in this video that you missed or that's changed? Just coming back into the game after a 10 year period of not playing and am fascinated by how much I didn't know!
Really loving all your content on youtube, thanks so much for all you do!
Nothing has really changed since this time
And yes for his natural aura it will buff it, but not in your case because that aura comes from an item
I remember my friend back in the day would take push up breaks because we played the game so much we didn't take time to do anything else.
"Number 8 will shock you!" LMAO As long as it will make my jaw literally drop.
its awesome how u use SC:BW music in the background lol the good classics :) BW and D2 r really great games mby even better than their current advanced versions
You missed some of the subtlety of hammerdins and magic immune monsters at 9 minutes in. Yes, you cannot remove magic immunity with auras, curses or anything else; however, blessed hammer specifically does extra damage (150%) against undead. It just so happens that MOST of the monsters that spawn with magic immunity are also undead. (usually those act 2 mummies) This extra damage to undead from blessed hammer actually acts as an immunity breaker and will do damage to them anyway despite no extra -resistance mechanics at play.
TLDR: Hammerdins OP. Very, very few monsters spawn that they can't kill with their main button.
this got fixed at some point, though. So it's no longer the case.
Great video!
What is a mode you use with infinite stash and item level display? Is it PlugY?
thats it indeed
I knew open wounds prevented healing, but did not know the mechanics that caused that interaction. Interesting!
Holy Crap.... The music at the beginning.... Sounds like SC1.... Great Vid as always Llama
Wow nice bro. You like the creator of the Diablo 2. Love all your video. Bringing back memories :)
very interesting vid, been watching you in iron man tournaments you have some nice content man and earned a sub ;)
ok so this is the q a monster has 160 res, you use conv and lower res its 120, then if you have gear with -res like facets, tstrokes, eldrich, or fathom...can that break it?
Nope. -res from items like that will only have an affect if the immunity is broken by conv/lower res. So that monster in your example will always be immune no matter what unless some crazy max levels of conv/lower res to bring it down.
Everyone- Hammerdin OP
Act 2 baal wave- hold my beer
You forgot: Normal merc also has higher resistance vs nm or hell. You can only upgrade uniques, not rares... but you can roll magic items for multiple sockets with cube recipe if the item is capable. Lastly, the maps aren't procedurally generated but there's a lot of variations. Good video though, cant believe I watched the whole thing...
you can definitely upgrade rares, though it's a different forumla than the unique upgrade. Source: classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml
Some maps are also procedurally generated, though not all. Some maps (Such as outer cloister) have set variations, others though were generated using tile pieces. :)
I don't know how I never ever noticed that. D2--full of little things you never realized.
Good video to watch while downloading diablo 2
For Merc's having higher stats in normal - they gain more stats when you level themselves as opposed to hiring them at a higher level; meaning if you take a level 90 char and go to hire a merc there shouldn't be a difference between normal + hell, but, if you hire a merc. when you're levl 10 in normal and level it to 90 it will have higher stats.
this is not correct. you can go to normal diff and hire a merc at say, level 80, and if you had leveled the merc from level 1 to level 80 they will have the same stats.
what matters is the difficulty setting where you hire the merc. Normal has higher stats than Nightmare, and higher still than Hell diff.
Oh look how complicated this game's mechanics are and how many caveats exist. It certainly makes me want to go back and play this
amazing stream :D
great video, love it
I have been playing D2 on and off for many years, always kind of casually.
I want to know if you have or could make a video of how to play the game as efficently as possible, to mae the most progress the quickest basically, because doing a startup can be slow..
hmm that's an interesting idea actually. Make a sort of "let's play" where I half speedrun but make it still comfortable enough that anyone could do it.
Binge watching these streams. Amazing streamer.
if i can add one thing to bugging armors, you can bug an item that had prior sockets if its ethereal and you make a runeword with it (AKA stone runeword) and then use the hel+tp method you can ebug the armor, although at the cost of the runes for stone(or whatever runeword you can use that has enhanced defense on it) hope this helps anyone out there :)
I'll have to test this out
Edit: Tested it and it didn't increase the defense of the armor...might test more later
What mods do you use in your game? Wanted to play d2 on upcoming holidays and was wondering what mods to install for the best gameplay (e.g. stats reset, talents reset etc)
plugy mod is all I use. Takes care of all of that stuff and is pretty nice to have
starting your video with terran soundtrack...you have my attention!
what you said about MF made me wonder. so i looked it up, and did a lot of reading on "Treasure Class" .. I think it might explain why there are some uniques I've never seen. All the monsters have an assigned treasure class that have different chances to drop a specific type of item. It's how the game makes "Archon Staves" among many other base items are so rare. It might also mean that a specific base item might be more common in a specific area that spawns monsters that have a higher chance of dropping it due to its "treasure class". Like, even though the monster level is high enough to drop a specific base item, it has to go through many rolls that ultimately give a low chance of dropping it and possibly even none at all. MF doesn't count towards what type of item drops either, unfortunately, and there are many "junk" or "nodrop" selections in treasure classes. OFC having MF is always best when item hunting, but i think it's even more important to know the treasure class of the monsters you're killing. There might be better areas with monsters that have a specific treasure class with the highest possible chance to drop the base item you're looking for. It's really hard to know though because you have do look through a shitload of files, and i'm not sure if anyone has actually put this information online even though i know people have done it.
More on "Ignore defens": Ignore Target's Defense will not work on super unique bosses, but "negate" Target Defense will work, that is why a Last Wish is a bad weapon for a kicksin against the übers, but a Fleshripper is just so awesome aginst them ;-)
Unique items with %Enhanced Defense don't roll defense. They get the max possible defense for that item +1. You can see it at 32:24 with the 252 defense Vampire Gaze.
When the music started I thought a SCV will appear in Lut Golein an start building a bunker at the entrance :-)
I started playing this again. It's hard to allocate precious inventory and stash space when there's no mules. It's clear to me now why I was so bad at this as a kid. Even with no help I'm doing better than I EVER did 15 years ago.
haha makes you realllyyy need to understand the importance of every item/stat in the game when you have no mules :P
Love the SC music while watching diablo !!!
is there a place where all of this is written down? is there a website or app that will tell me my actual damage/resistance?
"Str glitch" rule is basicly you have to be able to wear the item because of your inventory (str/dex from charms) this can be obtained, while you can still pickup full body, as you say the other way around is risky :)
Bonus fact: if your str bugged item has frw, you will get "Bugged Frw" other people will see you run at the frw speed thats not glitched, but in reallity you're moveing faster, causeing you to "teleport" around on other people's screen, (haveing it on weapon/shield spot I,e Titans and spamming W the "Desynch effect will be even more unpredicteble" - Best Reggard DmM@Jsp (retired oldschool eu pvp'er)