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I'm getting ready to start a nonprofit organization soon by the Fall of 2016. Any funds that I ask the public for whether someone donated or not has a right to ask where the money is going, especially if there's no type of progress.. And, if I decide that I can no longer do the job or the project, it's my responsibility to give ALL funds left over to another organization of choice or bring someone in that can get the job done. This is why business planning is so imperative. #charactercounts
+Boyce Watkins You don't even know if Ms J H J is a internet Cointell troll trying to perpetuate dissension between you and Umar but you surely agreed!
vector313 Asking for money from strangers from for a cause that's going towards a public project are PUBLIC!!! The money that's being raised is not coming from private individuals. While "GoFundme is a private company, the funds received are NOT!!! Now, who's the idiot??? 👊👊👊👊✔✔✔✔✔✔ #tryagain
Dr. Watkins is speaking the truth, Black people stop being sheep and following Anything, asking someone for accountability does NOT translate to being a hater!!!!
+Javonica Sapp Questioning someone's integrity and character at the same time when it's not warranted is not...since she tried to portray Dr. Umar Johnson as someone not to trust in her accountability argument without much evidence to suggest as of now he's doing something suspect...she just reacted with what she knew or heard. So all that Dr. Watkins did was not hold the female accountable...as much as she tried to hold Dr. Umar Johnson accountable in regards to his school and funds. In this case Dr. Watkins and his channel was out of line...which is evident in his post when you analyze the way he's approaching Dr. Umar Johnson.
Jose Hernandez I'm black so I disagree, lucky for you I have class and won't stoop to your level and disrespect Mexicans, I'll leave that to Donald Trump
Exactly, she wasn't overly critical or disrespectful. She just made an excellent point about holding people accountable. I'm not sure what everyone is mad about. It seems to have more to do with her being a black women. Her comments weren't relevant until black male hypocrisy made them so.
@kingjay6009 Exactly bro. Dr. Umar while i think he does have a actual Doctorate he still becomes a little defensive when ever some ask him about the school and what has he been doing with the 700,000 dollars that Black people donated towards the opening of the school.
LOL nope! That's offensive to strong black muslim men. They're all the same no matter which country they're from, ask for business plans no chair commitee etc.
Dr. Watkins.. I'm sad to witness this breakdown of unity between you two brothers... smh. This is definitely one of the last things we need in the community right now.
I -was- a subscriber to the channel until he made some unsavory choices by only allowing this to even happen. This all started when Marie asked a question that was already answered on the Roc Newman interview on youtube earlier in the year. Literally every question she asked was answered in that particular video and I believe the last breakfast club interview with Angela Yee. Why Joyce Watkins is pretending not to have known any of this is beyond me.
+norfillyson its colleagues … actually.. Opinions:> If its coming out of Dr. Watkins mouth… then its his opinion… if its coming out of someone else's mouth… its their opinion.. He is an academic… not a rapper.
Who does Umar think he is? He wont show proof of his credentials, business plans, or any estimates etc. but he will say we shouldnt even have to question him. Uhh yes we do. He must think blacks are booboo the fools. HE has great teachings but Ive definatley got my third eye open, so he wont see a dime from me until he can be honest and prove himself capable.
Brendy Fanfan why can’t two Black people or 2 different groups share their differences behind closed doors so that the whyte man won’t see us arguing between us. The whole thing is sad...airing our dirty laundry in front of the whyte man. I’ve got more than 25 years on both of you. Please stop talking about one another.
What white person have you demanded credentials???? Or business plan or ANYTHING for that matter ppl need to stop.. We are just brainwashed to be sceptical of US period
9:35 let the ppl decide who u are....??!! WHAT?? Petty, disappointing and ridiculous. And we wonder why we can't get anywhere. Too busy pulling each other down. Man did they do a number on us
Its kind of odd that you allowed two people to make a comment about him yet you respect him. Your daughter made a dig at him in your presnece in the last video you did with her regarding the conscious stripper. This is your platform at the end of the day.
+trfrierson Geesh! You honestly believe he should police an entire network to make sure EVERY PERSON only says positive things about Umar Johnson? Puhleese. Grow up and get real. Umar Johnson is an entirely unproven & unvetted entity that needs to closely scrutinized. Period. And the critiques of him offered over this network are entirely reasonable and cogently, soberly and objectively presented. Look, I'm not saying you can't find UJ charismatic, inspirational or otherwise interesting. But, come on. The man is asking us for MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to build a unique school with NO traceable track record building even ONE school!! Wake up people. Umar might be sincere, but then again he might not be!! And I'm not a crab in the barrel for saying it *In my Yvette Carnell voice* Boom!!
+Boyce Watkins With all do respect the Princeton professor was correct. His business model is not possible in the US, and the paper work is a mess which does matter. You are a finance gut so you know that there is no way he should be collecting 4 mill for a nonprofit without providing a tax slips. He calls himself POPPA because he is dealing with single mothers who are looking for a black father figure, for their children he claims he is going to take off their hands for coins. It is all manipulation and calling these people out may hurt but it helps others in the long run.
+the one. Hmm. I'm not sure I agree. For several years now, Boyce Watkins has been entirely supportive of Umar Johnson on this network--hasn't said a negative thing. But Umar Johnson, who ostensibly loves all black people, has not only ignored his colleagues (including Boyce), he has reacted to any critique of him with plain venom. This back and forth with the two of them notwithstanding, Umar Johnson's behavior has been problematic and should be troublesome to anyone who follows him. It's time for us to wake up.
+Boyce Watkins Its perception. When you sit in the presence of anyone who says something ill willed to someone, and you remain in silence it can be taken as agreement to the other person. When you post something that goes against a persons character its as if you are co signing, if that makes sense. It can be perceived as being in agreement. Its the same thing with re-tweeting. You are putting it out there in some form of way that you agree with the information in that tweet that was put out there and you are willing to share it with your followers. I'm talking about the perception looks poor.
It was a woman who got griff and tariq beef just a saying,and hopefully yall can squash it behind the scenes and not in public where alot of lost negus just wanna see something negative happen
+Bred To Live Entertainment I had heard World Star already contacted Umar about having a back alley brawl with Boyce...j/k.... but for real they are grown men, I can't believe the both of them are allowing Egos to ruin potential cooperation endeavors that would help their people, the very people who they claim they are here for... And I was more surprised that Tariq said he don't want no parts of this situation because in the past he got shade thrown on him... So now I am starting to think all them are just out here for money and a little relevancy...smh...
I saw Dr. Johnson yesterday in person for the first time. There was a $20 cover fee to get into the church. They did a collection to add to that fund to build the school. I must say prior to seeing him speak in person, I was one of his supporters. Within the first 10 minutes I was ready to walk out. The only reason I did not leave, was the money I spent to get in to listen to him speak. The money I spent to listen to him speak is another thing that had me looking suspicious about the way he does things. There were 450 seats presold. Instead of telling people that they sold out, after a certain time they started selling additional seats two people. I checked his Facebook page when I got home and he posted on his Facebook page that there were 300 people waiting to buy seats in the cold and if they did not show up they were going to sell their seats to the people. Well one, there were not 300 people waiting it was more like 25-30 people in addition to that, I'm almost certain the people that pre-bought a ticket were not reimbursed the money if they did not attend. After watching this video I agree with everything you stated. I felt as though Dr. Johnson was speaking to an impoverished people that did not know much in the first place and they were soaking up everything that he said. because of the position I hold a government, the degrees that I have and the different exposure that I've had at different levels of my life I know that some of the things that he was saying was inaccurate or a complain without resolve. If you're a leader, you should have solutions. ultimately I got to a point where I just could not listen to him anymore and left early.
Yes, part of it is ego. I just could not get around his message on education, finance, black businesses and government. He discouraged higher education because of the expense... There is a link between poverty and education.
"If I ask a question, and your answer is anger that tells me that you don't have an answer, because if you had an answer you would just give me the answer." YES!
False. The responsibility goes back to people who are in our community exploiting us and we continue to let them do it! We can't even start with the fundamental issues, security. He didn't stop what he was doing. He just moved around and started all over again.
@Johari Stewart Exactly. The media is quick to show the negativity within our communities, but rarely-to-never about the positivity, when they continually, show the positivity within other communities. Also, if we begin to stick together more, we will be able to achieve more.
+Boyce Watkins I think you guys still need to find a way to work this out. the work you both do is bigger than you both. I even texted my brother or of concern for you both. I love both you guys and the work yall diligently put in for your people. Don't shut your brother out. find a way to put peace into this.
Dr. Umar has to put away his ego and pride. Find some humility about himself and stop putting himself on a pedestal as if he has conquered something already. There's a lot of work ahead and he has to tone it down before his work be in vein.
Dr Boyce Watkins Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings in regards to the 'Umar' situation. I have respect for Umar and the work he does but at times have felt he and others like him are egotistical and straying from the very community that upholds them. Many can learn, grow and become even better at what they do if the where as humble as you❤💛💚 You are a credit to our people!! Ase
Dr. Boyce, I know you are a sincere and good man. But the woman who criticized Dr. Umar in my opinion was out of line. She went beyond just asking for accountability of the funds but her words seem more like an attack upon him. That is just how I took it. Unfortunately, it does reflect upon you as the gatekeeper of your channel.
+bigbiz800 Sure, accountability is always important. But she is not just asking for an accounting of the money, her video is slanted more toward an underhanded attack. There is a big difference. Asking for an accounting takes 30 seconds but this video goes on finding fault after fault with his campaign. That is not asking for an accounting. Also, knowing full well Dr. Umar was publicly attacked by another black woman it is definitely unfortunate that he allowed Maria to be his spokesperson for his channel on this matter.
I think our people often try to find too many reasons to separate. We do it without thinking. And it's tiring. Togetherness and unity. That is key. We need to stop being so ready to so ready to tear down, discredit, and disregard each other so quickly. We aren't always going to agree, nobody is perfect. But we should find reasons to unify before finding reasons to separate. Just saying.
Agreed but remember Dr Watkins stated he's not into making Umar look bad just stating his own experiences and highlighting his own mental red flags with regard to Umar
Hey! Brother I don't disagree with you about what you are saying, but it is coming down to where Mr. Umar Johnson is becoming verbally abusive to ppl especially when they ask a follow up question to the school claims is suppose to be building and the ppl don't get no response we do not deserve this behavior. That lecture he gave four years ago in Nevada I ate it up. I loved it but ppl is just merely asking about there investment for the school and they get there head chopped off for just asking about it that just wrong.don't get wrong I can roll with the punch as long as it is in a respectable way. Aka I am a truck driver I live that life? PEACE✌🏾️👊🏾
That's exactly what Elijah Muhammad was read your bible he was a Arab cab driver with gift for gab, he got close to the Israelites he watched and learned their ways and went out and created his own doctrine that twisted the original bible and that's why y'all still have to go to Bible when reading the Koran. Muhammad was not a prophet the has never been a non Israelite prophet so that's a lie... And show me one prophecy that Muhammad gave that has come to pass that was not already in the Bible from the real prophets.
Of all things that we as Black people MUST learn to do: 1. Realize that we (Blacks) are family 2. We as Blacks should NEVER publicly state negatives of each other 3. We as Blacks must sort out our differences privately ... just as family members would do. Call and speak to each other OR arrange a meet and sort out things with each other.
We people that everyone calls black should STOP voicing our opinions on the public set. Ego wants us to be in the lead. Recognize where your ego is and keep it in check when you meet someone else with and ego. People of all walks of life have access to the media and because of this we all are leaders. We are leaders of our own selves. Keep your opinion yours and to yourself unless it's the truth and you can prove it. I like him and you , stop fighting.
You said it exactly my sister. I made this comment to Maria Loyd's video which was in a similar vein: "It saddens me that African Americans can't sort these kinds of false-messiahs (or any messiahs for that matter) like Umar Johnson out, and learn to stop listening to them without all of the rancour, mean-spiritedness and bile. This young lady has a brilliant point ( which also applies nicely to Africa and the rest of the diaspora as well ) where she says that Blacks need to stop following leaders, and learn to create institutions in order to create a brighter future for themselves. People have to choose improve themselves on an individual level, and then they need to learn how agree upon things, and to work together toward common goals in order for a community as a whole to improve its lot. You don't need 3 million dollars for this, everyone just needs a library card and the willingness to listen, learn, share information, occasionally be wrong, but honest and humble about being wrong, on the road to learning the right, and in general stop trying to be the loudest or the most important person in the room. In the Black community this will require a reintroduction to the very African concept of "Zumunta", or family. This Hausa idea refers to community in the sense of a very large family where the privilege only exist if the individual is being responsible towards all of the other members of the community, and might fit nicely in the black community if something like it were ever adopted by the black community. It doesn't take any money to do this part, just a willingness to deal in facts not religious fantasy, and desire to learn how to improve the community together coupled with an unwavering commitment to do what needs to be done even if it contradicts everything that you have been taught to believe, or which has been done before. I salute you on your clear perception of the situation in the black community.
Long story short, me and my peoples call it the "brand". So the Brand being people of color. If we got beef let's take it out back, never in the front, always protect the brand. Same thing with Cornel West and Travis Smiley with Obama, never in front of people, take the beef out back.
James Bell ... I didn't go wrong with #2 here's why. The Black community needs leaders and assorted persons to inspire solutions. Each of these men have something to offer, however on different scales but both are important. It is a much better approach to discuss their difference of opinions in private. To announce I'm done via social media with someone, is not wise. It is a public slap and just further divides; which is an illness in the Black community all by itself.
+Lewis Olajuwon +J.R. Bell +King Thanks Brothas for the *W*'s, Laughs, and Ups. For all the Brothas that have figured out that these stumbling blocks that have been holding Black Men back comes from the same source,..well this simp war must have been reassuring. It let us know that we are definitely on the right path, and are going the right direction for success. These dudes are cutting each others heads off like "HighLanders". All that Maria L Chick had for credentials was a *bookshelf* ...and no money. But she wanted to see a "business plan". LOL. The *rawest* part was when Boyce kept saying over and over "I have lost money & friends, befriending Umar...I have LOST friends & money sticking with Umar"...Now that's Boyce trying to destroy another Brotha...down to the dust. These are some teachable moments watching these simps interact and go nowhere...and all they have to say about these destructive Black Women on their crew is "She had a right to raise those good points". LoL. If Umar was a white guy named Bret, and he raised his total to 4 million dollars that would make sense, as well be brilliant. Because if you have set a goal at 2mil and got 500k, then at 4mil you may raise 500k more,.. now Bret Umar is halfway to his goal at 1 million. Waaahooo. Right? But Dr. Umar is Black soooo they must stop him now. Black Women with degrees and Simps who sell DVD's and Wealth Courses can't have that! Another Nicca making moves, hell nooo!!! Because that's *their* power and *their* resources. This is why I just observe simps and black women...And build where they cannot.
+calvaryishere09 brother, you just have to build where not that many people know what your final result will be until it is done. I'm getting infuriated to see this happening in 2015. Garvey went through it, El-Shabazz (Malcolm) went through it, Dr. King went through it ("Messy Jesse" among others), Dr. Khalid Muhammad went through it, and now this. You have no idea how much this upsets me, especially when I make efforts to support our businesses and schools any way I can...through funds or volunteering because at this point I don't have much but I still support. We got folks from other countries being able to pull together to start businesses but can't even get folks to put in for a school because they want to see a "business plan"...dude has laid it out for over a year now. What else do you need, a friggin virtual tour? ...and for her to have not much on her account speaks a lot. For me, it just seems like a plot to elevate her own status while trying to tear down someone else's. SMH that's why we stay losing.
Yes yes, Narcissitic. I study Narcissistic behavior and yes Umar has unhealthy levels of it. He uses a lot of double speak and easily gets upset when questioned. There is tons more on Narcissism. People really need to learn what NPD is because these types will destroy you emotionally. by the time you are done with them or when they discard you, you won't even know who the hell you are anymore. They lift you up get you on a high only to tear you down.
You sound so dumb, there is always a beginning. Computers didn't just automatically start communicating on their own, all this had to be thought out. Damn you're stupid. I guess by your logic computers just came to be without help from any human being.
Thank you for this very much needed video Mr. Watkins. Sometimes I feel like people are so desperate for action that they settle for any nonsense. Dr. Umar has this narcissistic personality that fuels more hate and discrimination.
+Drew Point OH ... It's one of the issues. History teaches us that. Look back on all the black leaders we have had and you will find division between them.
+Drew Point OH I do agree that we don't need a leader, but we need teachers to teach and guide us to become a better community. black people have no clue of how to get out of the situation we are in. We do have to power, but don't how to use it. Those other racial group you named have Elders (teachers) that help guide them to keep their traditions and legacy going.
I thought you said you were done in your last video. You're still talking? SMH! Doc, are you seriously telling us that you have no oversight on the types of people that come on your platform? Hmmmmm. we're here watching oo Doc. Wait til SaNeter gets a hold of this nonsense
+Boyce Watkins That is NOT freedom of speech. That makes you very complicit to the content that is posted. If your colleagues posted something about Jews in an attack, CZcams would hold you accountable. Why do you feel you're separate in this context slandering another CZcams member? He can easily have your channel shutdown for these videos as harassment and bullying as well as defamation of his character. Considering he hasn't even posted a video response yet, you're the only culprit here.
I have to be honest. I think it's kind of shady of you to say that you respect Minister Farrakhan and Dr. Umar, but then turn around and post videos of people don't like them on your page. I wouldn't do that people of care about or respect. Maybe that's why Dr. Umar treats you the way he does. Maybe he doesn't trust you.
+20willsdude it's still shady no matter how you look at it. This is his channel and he allowed those women to somewhat diss Farrakhan and Umar and that is not cool. I wouldn't dare post videos of people dissing my friend and say oh well it their opinion. That's lame and not right.
you post like a child. check it...the video about Umar that woman posted was a request for information and a rationale. NOT about dislike. and even if it was dislike...it was critica, civil and on point. we have to dislike/criticise in order to 'sharpen swords'.
+mrlawilliamsuk Warmachine Dr. Umar just gave an update about the school on the Breakfast Club about two or three months ago. I just don't feel like he would lie about his school or whatever his goals are on a radio station like that. Sorry for the previous typos, I posted from my phone.
dude, why are you still going back and forth with Umar? you look childish with all of these videos and it hasnt even been a full whole day yet. Some people aren't going to like you and want you around them, that's life. It seems like you're stalking him now. Let that man be. You keep talking about how you gave money to his school, lost friends over him, love what he do, but you keep going on and on about how he allegedly called some lady the C word. Ok, we heard this 3 times already. Talk about something important.
+OMGbreeezy Keep strong, sistren. I just came from the Facebook page and it's some admin creating this problem. Dr. Johnson is probably at some lecture and doesn't know what's going on.
***** Right. That is some type of stuff Tommy Sotomayor would do and none of these conscious brothers should stoop that low. There's no need for constant videos about the same thing over and over again.
+OMGbreeezy Well apparently what he got back for someone asking a question on his platform was childish memes so I think the childish trophy goes to Umar. Some comments Im reading here just sound like people making excuses for him. All that being said I do hope something will result soon as he is near his goal I believe.
Andre Black I'm not a fan of Umar. I'm an Tariq Nasheed type of person. But, I can call out discrepancies when I see them. Boyce can solve this and move on.
RJ TV Because you can criticize to a point to make a point, but after that it just out right abuse and that is what dr. Umar Johnston do. Ppl have the right to ask question with out the harsh backlash.
This dude is a hater, he's the one with the ego he's literally getting mad that someone is confidently uplifts their self ,he's just like girls getting mad at ig models for looking good... This dude is childish
Our most difficult struggle will always be within. I do hope Dr. Watkins & Dr. Johnson can again find common ground. These are two minds best on the same team as opposed to one another. love y'all find a way!!
I'm glad you didn't let people deter you from voicing your perspective and opinion. People fail to realize you tried to address it behind closed doors only to be met with childish memes. All of this "The 'community' doesn't need this" talk is ridiculous and outrageous.
What is wrong with this dude the man doesn't respond to you and now your acting like a female this is madness talk to the man one on one your silly doctor Boyce this is comedy right?
I know for myself I've started questioning his motives as well as the money. Like any place else, any nonprofit or even business you have to show where the money is going it is a very simple thing to just put that information on your website and then just reference the site. I have supported and worked for a lot of non-profits and I want to know the good that is being done, see the vision, etc.
Dr. Watkins PLEASE STOP IT WITH THESE VIDEOS...You Is starting something the Black community DO NOT NEED... A Leadership Beef!! You and Dr Umar are both inspiring individuals, I've been following you for over a year and agree with mostly everything u speak of but this I truly DISAGREE and Dr. Umar...I've been following him over 3 years now and I've seen his work and saw him speak in Chicago in front of gang members, preachers, young black teens, young woman and seen the difference afterwards, he CANT CHANGE THE WORLD DOC...but he has been PUTTING IN WORK!! Dr. Watkins PLEASE speak in front of a 200 lost black men, 100 gang members, and deliver a message that we can't see...Yes sometime us men can have a Big Ego ...he even said that's something he fights with in one of his vids... Just it alone Doc these back 2 Back vids is not Good for Unity and Black Empowerment...
I never call Dr. Umar nor Dr. Watkins LEADERS...I said INSPIRING INDIVIDUALS... I Respect both of these Work...it's just sad that these 2 guys can't get together somehow and bring PEACE to this Shit
I agree. We have to begin somewhere and everywhere. Don't just smash down the ideas, get in and be a part of things. Not one person can do all of anything. I support Dr. Umar Johnson. He keeps telling us to stop asking for permission from the oppressors, make our own way! Damn people are seemingly, purposefully, rampantly disregarding this man and his plan for us.
Sometimes we must forgive our brothers and sisters without their request. It is obvious that brother Umar is like all of us, human! and engaging in this work will absolutely make you 'other than yourself'. I can only imagine the stress he is under working with 'us'. Brother Watkins, you are on a higher level therefore must act on a higher level to heal the wounds that divide. The caption, "why I am done with Umar Johnson" is not a good caption and not one becoming a man such as yourself. No explanation needed. Whatever this brother is going through, it will be revealed. Go to him in private, not telling us that you have reached out to him. Show up at one of his lectures or do whatever you can to heal the wounds that divide us. The masses of Black people cannot decipher the bullshit between two great mean, nor should we be put in a position to do so. Stop talking about Umar, just get busy and stay busy with what you do best, i.e. Lifting Black people!
Uplifting black people also means telling the truth. Our elders have played a dangerous game for far too long. Telling the truth helps him and us. He's obviously a drug addict today and the money has been squandered. Let's tell the truth and actually realize his idea of a school for black children. Peace be unto all who read this ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾💋
Globalman43 And your proof of this accusation is where Sir ! You’re a true sense of people’s that speak just for the heck of it without sound thinking....Get your ego out of way please....Why don’t we inject ourselves into your personal or professional live so we can see what an upstanding human you’re !!! Shameful really
Ferdinand Ndedi It’s not about my ego. I want proof where my money is being donated to! If someone doesn’t give me information, I need to ask questions!
I'm with you 100% Dr. Watkins. That rant by umar was shameful. He is a classic narcissist. I can't believe he actually has matriculated through the academic system to a doctorate degree so undisciplined, vulgar, angry and vindictive.
I've read through many of the comments saying "let it go". Some of you go back and forth with a stranger over a difference of opinion regarding your youtube comments! I think Dr. Watkins has the right to speak his peace on his platform much the way that Dr. Umar addresses the "haters" in his platform. Critical thinking requires an individual to ask QUESTIONS. I can be supportive of my community and ask questions. If you are taking public funds I do not feel it is disrespectful to ask the individual or corporate entity to provide a detailed description of how those funds will be allocated.
Can't respect you more Dr. Watkins!!! I can really appreciate what you are doing for our people. One of the greatest gifts you can share, Knowledge. I support you brother. And thank you.
Clown! Obviously, they were wrong. Dr. Umar has credentials. Boyce, rode both sides of the fence too me. If you're intimidated by another mans ego of himself, somethings going on with you. You should have asked Umar what school he went too. You're partly responsible for this and you started the questions on his credentials. You're still questioning this bull? Boyce, i supported you and have taken your classes on stock market investing but you just assisted in another brothers demise. Also, either you curse or you dont so stop your bullshit and teach finance.
Fair comments Mr. Boyce... Well said however, to some degree I can understand Dr. Umar's frustrations... GRANDEURS he may have but I believe his heart is in the right place pertaining to educating our children...
Im also done with umar. even his apology was insincere. He spent more time criticizing us for calling him on his vulgar, hate filled, ego maniacal rant
It saddens me when black folks have conflicts with each other. I know we all have different views and many times disagree with each other. I have many views that others disagree with or may not give voice to for many reasons even if they agree with me. However, I will do my best to stand on truth, not facts. They are not the same (truth is universal, fact are finite). When you stand on truth love is holding you and that truth up. I disagreed with Dr. Boyce for saying Cardi B makes good music. But under no circumstances would I ever disrespect Dr. Boyce. We just have a difference of opinion. But both of us still stand together on top of love. I wish we all can do that.
I love Boyce Watkins! The only thing I would like to see him change on this platform is letting people use his channel to promote their views. Whoever that woman is that speaks needs to make her own CZcams channel. I come here to see Boyce Watkins.
Dr. Boyce, your inspiring and encouragingly heartfelt words brings me to tears, in a good way. God bless and love all that you do FUBU. I'm so honored knowing you exist, a positive light! like Jane Pittman :-) leading all out of the darken enslaved mindset. Your given purpose i see is your passion and love for your OWN people. I'm a bit humbly shy to express when I feel not worthy sometimes but since following and listening to you is setting a flame to build up confidence and trust in me and our people. Thank you for the building up US now and for our next generations.
I can appreciate this video Boyce. I feel that you voiced and expressed your hurt as well as your concern in a very mature manner despite your French LOL. You seem to be a very humble man don't ever loose that. No one is above questioning. People can be brilliant, charismatic, etc and have the wrong intentions. Thank you sir.
Brotha! this is exactly why we can't be a unit...stop letting these inserts divide us. You two are our only hope. We need the both of you to lead not argue and being real childish. please!!!
If you're really upset about the crowd funding and you donated money to it and you want to know where it's going, how about you quit all this talking and take legal actions like Tariq Nasheed did Tommy Sotomayor.
This hurts to see my brothers bicker over things that should not be as important as the big picture. We have to put our petty differences aside and work together by any means for the sake of our future
Truth, Knowledge, and Wisdom has no friends, shows no favoritism. Life involves questions, so don't take them personal. We do need blueprints, our people are very tangible. Thanks for the video brethren, good job.
so I have a question since I'm relatively new to Dr Uma. is there an actual secondary plan to go forward with the school? I understand he wants to buy a school at a certain price range but let's say he doesn't get the school or money he wants. Will he open a smaller one and build on that one?
I stopped messing with Umar a while back when he was getting in his feelings about his baby mama. He lashes out just like pimp pastors do when they get questioned by their members.
Qiana Chimere Give to the godly man, and help not a sinner. Do well unto him that is lowly, but give not to the ungodly: hold back thy bread, and give it not unto him, lest he overmaster thee thereby: for [else] thou shalt receive twice as much evil for all the good thou shalt have done unto him. Ecclesiasticus 12:4-5 KJVA bible.com/546/sir.12.4-5.KJVA
This is the most mature response concerning this matter that I've seen. May God bless all of our bredren, and help us all develop humilitiy. Yes, humility...because then, the Almighty can exalt us to heights no one can pull us down from. Peace, amani iwe nanyi.
I don’t understand why people are questioning dr Umar School and his credentials..... but go to church and give the pastor money with out question and pastors don’t do shit to help black People but feed them fake garbage that keeps them broke --- sadddddddd 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Tanisha Adjo Because Umar is a Fraud and has been exposed only people supporting him still are the ones who also support the church and give them there money
His credentials are not being questioned by the people. Although, he has artfully crafted it to seem that way . He's a smart man and good at diversion tactics . The only thing that we can really say because we are not privy to his information is that, the board wants to speak to him and possibly discipline him for Action that is not okay. Umar bringing partial information to the public is nothing more than diverting attention from the correct questions to be asked. Which would be for me... What exactly is the board wanting to discipline you for? He speaks some too many vague statemens but not specific details. I learned when I was young, to stay away from those fast talkers, who don't give hard concrete details,where you can pin them down on
Tanisha Adjo I love dr. Umar and I'm very ashamed of this guy doing a video start this type of bullshit with dr. Umar by asking social media where did he go to school or earn his degree instead of asking dr. Umar his self .... that was messy and divisive makes people start to think and question who you are just absolutely terrible. But I stand with dr. Umar Johnson cuz he's a stand-up gentleman who's brought amazing stuff to our community
Powerful talk. This too shall pass. I know you are sharing this out of love for the brother. I pray that you both come together in the future for the love of our people. Peace 🙏🏾
Muhammad Ali confessed and or proclaimed he was the greatest. I believe he was sending out positive energy out into the universe. He later admitted his pride....but....i admire Muhammad Ali's love of self. He encourage black people to be proud of what God made them. Dr. Umar is not perfect and he make mistakes too because he is human. Whatever he did i hope it is not deemed him unforgivable.
storyorator baby, the "lol" indicates I was laughing when I said it... it was a joke. I don't know Umar, nor what he's doing or why, nor will I invest the time in figuring it out... in this life, I'm here to figure out My SELF. You should do the same -- instead of worrying about whose quick to "judge" , whose spending money on what, about Umar, or Me, or anyone else, invest the time in looking inside... figure yourself out, completely and fully. Figure out what's compelling you to attempt to enter into these senseless internet arguments. Invest some time in perfecting your storytelling or oration skills. Figure out your dreams, passions & reasons for living... when you begin to do that -- why someone else is laughing on the internet seems minuscule bay. 1 love peace -Tko
Dr. Watkins, you have a long time track record in serving our community in a postive and contructive manner. You are known by your record of service and this discussion need not be had. Thank you for your honest and transparent representation over the years and you are fully justified by the work you do. Thank you.
I don't understand what the problem is. If he is asking for money from the public, we have a right to ask what his plan is and how the money is going to be spent. He should eagerly make the information available if he is on the up and up. The reason why black people get scammed all the time is because we are too scared or ignorant to ask questions. It just seems a little shady to me.
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love you brother..💗💗💗
We love you here in, lex, ky. B1 family, we have not seen ice cube, dr.anderson we are reading still plus now awaken.
Asking the public for funds for a project is PUBLIC knowledge.
I'm getting ready to start a nonprofit organization soon by the Fall of 2016. Any funds that I ask the public for whether someone donated or not has a right to ask where the money is going, especially if there's no type of progress.. And, if I decide that I can no longer do the job or the project, it's my responsibility to give ALL funds left over to another organization of choice or bring someone in that can get the job done. This is why business planning is so imperative.
#charactercounts
+Boyce Watkins You don't even know if Ms J H J is a internet Cointell troll trying to perpetuate dissension between you and Umar but you surely agreed!
zitmo1 Lol!!! I said it.. I know what I am but what are you?
#getalife you attacked my comment simply because you are angry and bitter.
+zitmo1 Duhhh he agreed with what he thinks is the truth...you could be an agent!! WTH...Lol
vector313
Asking for money from strangers from for a cause that's going towards a public project are PUBLIC!!! The money that's being raised is not coming from private individuals. While "GoFundme is a private company, the funds received are NOT!!! Now, who's the idiot??? 👊👊👊👊✔✔✔✔✔✔
#tryagain
Dr. Watkins is speaking the truth, Black people stop being sheep and following Anything, asking someone for accountability does NOT translate to being a hater!!!!
+Javonica Sapp Questioning someone's integrity and character at the same time when it's not warranted is not...since she tried to portray Dr. Umar Johnson as
someone not to trust in her accountability argument without much evidence to suggest as of now he's doing something suspect...she just reacted with what she knew or heard. So all that Dr. Watkins did was not hold the female accountable...as much as she tried to hold Dr. Umar Johnson accountable in regards to his school and funds. In this case Dr. Watkins and his channel was out of line...which is evident in his post when you analyze the way he's approaching Dr. Umar Johnson.
Jose Hernandez I'm black so I disagree, lucky for you I have class and won't stoop to your level and disrespect Mexicans, I'll leave that to Donald Trump
Exactly, she wasn't overly critical or disrespectful. She just made an excellent point about holding people accountable. I'm not sure what everyone is mad about. It seems to have more to do with her being a black women. Her comments weren't relevant until black male hypocrisy made them so.
Donald trump is finished. Trust me wait til he gets into international forum and watch how all countries will turn against usa
+Javonica Sapp Thanks for communicating common sense instead of mob mentality.
you're not a hater because you want to know the truth..
@kingjay6009 Exactly bro. Dr. Umar while i think he does have a actual Doctorate he still becomes a little defensive when ever some ask him about the school and what has he been doing with the 700,000 dollars that Black people donated towards the opening of the school.
Does Mr. Umar have a business plan for the school yet?
Good question
he showed his plan and the money donated is in a gofundme and none of it has been touched
LOL nope! That's offensive to strong black muslim men. They're all the same no matter which country they're from, ask for business plans no chair commitee etc.
he's atheist
you believe that you'll believe anything.
Scratch a lie find thief
Dr. Watkins.. I'm sad to witness this breakdown of unity between you two brothers... smh. This is definitely one of the last things we need in the community right now.
It's sad sister.
agreed
the black community doesn't need Umar Johnson as leader in the community
Nobody said anything about a leader... comprehend what's the discussion about before being ready to condemn. +javonika sapp
Are we not supposed to check our own?
If there is two different points of view, where is the black men's point of view on your channel then?
you clearly don't watch this channel
I -was- a subscriber to the channel until he made some unsavory choices by only allowing this to even happen.
This all started when Marie asked a question that was already answered on the Roc Newman interview on youtube earlier in the year.
Literally every question she asked was answered in that particular video and I believe the last breakfast club interview with Angela Yee.
Why Joyce Watkins is pretending not to have known any of this is beyond me.
+Jose Hernandez Go back to mexigo
+Mike Vincent "joyce watkins" lol
ogounlurker
Might as well be....
Dr Boyce your channel should be your videos only. Then colleuges wouldnt think you sneak dissin'
Yup x2
+norfillyson You hit the nail right on the head.
Exactly! Passive aggressively low key sneak dissin.
+norfillyson its colleagues … actually..
Opinions:> If its coming out of Dr. Watkins mouth… then its his opinion…
if its coming out of someone else's mouth… its their opinion..
He is an academic… not a rapper.
Bingo
Who does Umar think he is? He wont show proof of his credentials, business plans, or any estimates etc. but he will say we shouldnt even have to question him. Uhh yes we do. He must think blacks are booboo the fools. HE has great teachings but Ive definatley got my third eye open, so he wont see a dime from me until he can be honest and prove himself capable.
Brendy Fanfan he be like trumpy and taxes! 😂😂😂🇺🇸👋
Brendy Fanfan why can’t two Black people or 2 different groups share their differences behind closed doors so that the whyte man won’t see us arguing between us. The whole thing is sad...airing our dirty laundry in front of the whyte man. I’ve got more than 25 years on both of you. Please stop talking about one another.
Imari has moved on getting new money😁😳😡
What white person have you demanded credentials???? Or business plan or ANYTHING for that matter ppl need to stop.. We are just brainwashed to be sceptical of US period
9:35 let the ppl decide who u are....??!! WHAT??
Petty, disappointing and ridiculous. And we wonder why we can't get anywhere. Too busy pulling each other down. Man did they do a number on us
Its kind of odd that you allowed two people to make a comment about him yet you respect him. Your daughter made a dig at him in your presnece in the last video you did with her regarding the conscious stripper. This is your platform at the end of the day.
+trfrierson Geesh! You honestly believe he should police an entire network to make sure EVERY PERSON only says positive things about Umar Johnson? Puhleese. Grow up and get real. Umar Johnson is an entirely unproven & unvetted entity that needs to closely scrutinized. Period. And the critiques of him offered over this network are entirely reasonable and cogently, soberly and objectively presented. Look, I'm not saying you can't find UJ charismatic, inspirational or otherwise interesting. But, come on. The man is asking us for MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to build a unique school with NO traceable track record building even ONE school!! Wake up people. Umar might be sincere, but then again he might not be!! And I'm not a crab in the barrel for saying it *In my Yvette Carnell voice* Boom!!
+Boyce Watkins With all do respect the Princeton professor was correct. His business model is not possible in the US, and the paper work is a mess which does matter. You are a finance gut so you know that there is no way he should be collecting 4 mill for a nonprofit without providing a tax slips. He calls himself POPPA because he is dealing with single mothers who are looking for a black father figure, for their children he claims he is going to take off their hands for coins. It is all manipulation and calling these people out may hurt but it helps others in the long run.
+the one. Hmm. I'm not sure I agree. For several years now, Boyce Watkins has been entirely supportive of Umar Johnson on this network--hasn't said a negative thing. But Umar Johnson, who ostensibly loves all black people, has not only ignored his colleagues (including Boyce), he has reacted to any critique of him with plain venom. This back and forth with the two of them notwithstanding, Umar Johnson's behavior has been problematic and should be troublesome to anyone who follows him. It's time for us to wake up.
+Boyce Watkins Its perception. When you sit in the presence of anyone who says something ill willed to someone, and you remain in silence it can be taken as agreement to the other person. When you post something that goes against a persons character its as if you are co signing, if that makes sense. It can be perceived as being in agreement. Its the same thing with re-tweeting. You are putting it out there in some form of way that you agree with the information in that tweet that was put out there and you are willing to share it with your followers. I'm talking about the perception looks poor.
+The REAL MUSIC No. However when you allow certain content don't be surprised by the response.
It was a woman who got griff and tariq beef just a saying,and hopefully yall can squash it behind the scenes and not in public where alot of lost negus just wanna see something negative happen
+Bred To Live Entertainment Word!!!
+Bred To Live Entertainment I had heard World Star already contacted Umar about having a back alley brawl with Boyce...j/k....
but for real they are grown men, I can't believe the both of them are allowing Egos to ruin potential cooperation endeavors that would help their people, the very people who they claim they are here for...
And I was more surprised that Tariq said he don't want no parts of this situation because in the past he got shade thrown on him...
So now I am starting to think all them are just out here for money and a little relevancy...smh...
I saw Dr. Johnson yesterday in person for the first time. There was a $20 cover fee to get into the church. They did a collection to add to that fund to build the school. I must say prior to seeing him speak in person, I was one of his supporters. Within the first 10 minutes I was ready to walk out. The only reason I did not leave, was the money I spent to get in to listen to him speak. The money I spent to listen to him speak is another thing that had me looking suspicious about the way he does things. There were 450 seats presold. Instead of telling people that they sold out, after a certain time they started selling additional seats two people. I checked his Facebook page when I got home and he posted on his Facebook page that there were 300 people waiting to buy seats in the cold and if they did not show up they were going to sell their seats to the people. Well one, there were not 300 people waiting it was more like 25-30 people in addition to that, I'm almost certain the people that pre-bought a ticket were not reimbursed the money if they did not attend. After watching this video I agree with everything you stated. I felt as though Dr. Johnson was speaking to an impoverished people that did not know much in the first place and they were soaking up everything that he said. because of the position I hold a government, the degrees that I have and the different exposure that I've had at different levels of my life I know that some of the things that he was saying was inaccurate or a complain without resolve. If you're a leader, you should have solutions. ultimately I got to a point where I just could not listen to him anymore and left early.
l t wow. that's disappointing. sounds like his ego is bringing him down and he could be a smart hustler.
Yes, part of it is ego. I just could not get around his message on education, finance, black businesses and government. He discouraged higher education because of the expense... There is a link between poverty and education.
Ericalane B
l t He discourages education but yet claims to have 6, yes six degrees. College isn't for everyone but you've got to know how to do something.
l t agree
"If I ask a question, and your answer is anger that tells me that you don't have an answer, because if you had an answer you would just give me the answer."
YES!
We can't allow the system and media to divide us. That's exactly what they're doing right now.
False. The responsibility goes back to people who are in our community exploiting us and we continue to let them do it! We can't even start with the fundamental issues, security. He didn't stop what he was doing. He just moved around and started all over again.
8 minutes in, boyce babbling about nonsense. Nothing about umar.
Kwame brown all day 😁💪🏿😱yeaaaa Kwame army. This dude is a clown
@Johari Stewart Exactly. The media is quick to show the negativity within our communities, but rarely-to-never about the positivity, when they continually, show the positivity within other communities. Also, if we begin to stick together more, we will be able to achieve more.
Let it go, Boyce.....
+Boyce Watkins I think you guys still need to find a way to work this out. the work you both do is bigger than you both. I even texted my brother or of concern for you both. I love both you guys and the work yall diligently put in for your people. Don't shut your brother out. find a way to put peace into this.
+Clifton Floyd let it go troll
Dr. Umar has to put away his ego and pride. Find some humility about himself and stop putting himself on a pedestal as if he has conquered something already. There's a lot of work ahead and he has to tone it down before his work be in vein.
Dr Boyce Watkins Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings in regards to the 'Umar' situation. I have respect for Umar and the work he does but at times have felt he and others like him are egotistical and straying from the very community that upholds them. Many can learn, grow and become even better at what they do if the where as humble as you❤💛💚 You are a credit to our people!! Ase
Lovis Key not matter how well one dresses a hog, it's still a hog! Stop tha madness!
Dr. Boyce, I know you are a sincere and good man. But the woman who criticized Dr. Umar in my opinion was out of line. She went beyond just asking for accountability of the funds but her words seem more like an attack upon him. That is just how I took it. Unfortunately, it does reflect upon you as the gatekeeper of your channel.
+bigbiz800 Sure, accountability is always important. But she is not just asking for an accounting of the money, her video is slanted more toward an underhanded attack. There is a big difference. Asking for an accounting takes 30 seconds but this video goes on finding fault after fault with his campaign. That is not asking for an accounting. Also, knowing full well Dr. Umar was publicly attacked by another black woman it is definitely unfortunate that he allowed Maria to be his spokesperson for his channel on this matter.
I think our people often try to find too many reasons to separate. We do it without thinking. And it's tiring. Togetherness and unity. That is key. We need to stop being so ready to so ready to tear down, discredit, and disregard each other so quickly. We aren't always going to agree, nobody is perfect. But we should find reasons to unify before finding reasons to separate. Just saying.
Kisi DrifterElite no unity.... individuals worry about you and yours. Skin folk ain't kin folk.
Agreed but remember Dr Watkins stated he's not into making Umar look bad just stating his own experiences and highlighting his own mental red flags with regard to Umar
Hey! Brother I don't disagree with you about what you are saying, but it is coming down to where Mr. Umar Johnson is becoming verbally abusive to ppl especially when they ask a follow up question to the school claims is suppose to be building and the ppl don't get no response we do not deserve this behavior. That lecture he gave four years ago in Nevada I ate it up. I loved it but ppl is just merely asking about there investment for the school and they get there head chopped off for just asking about it that just wrong.don't get wrong I can roll with the punch as long as it is in a respectable way. Aka I am a truck driver I live that life? PEACE✌🏾️👊🏾
I agree
This is why the Honorable Elijah Muhammad told us "Slack talk and gossip is forbidden." We must keep our disagreements OUT OF THE PUBLIC.
facts
Darin OnaBolu Ajani
Teach!! They seem not to get that. lm so over the bickering. lt makes us look so bad.
fuuck elijah muhammad / may allah bless hajj malik elshabbaz aka malcom x's soul
Darin Khaliq Onabolu agreed
That's exactly what Elijah Muhammad was read your bible he was a Arab cab driver with gift for gab, he got close to the Israelites he watched and learned their ways and went out and created his own doctrine that twisted the original bible and that's why y'all still have to go to Bible when reading the Koran. Muhammad was not a prophet the has never been a non Israelite prophet so that's a lie... And show me one prophecy that Muhammad gave that has come to pass that was not already in the Bible from the real prophets.
Of all things that we as Black people MUST learn to do: 1. Realize that we (Blacks) are family 2. We as Blacks should NEVER publicly state negatives of each other 3. We as Blacks must sort out our differences privately ... just as family members would do. Call and speak to each other OR arrange a meet and sort out things with each other.
We people that everyone calls black should STOP voicing our opinions on the public set. Ego wants us to be in the lead. Recognize where your ego is and keep it in check when you meet someone else with and ego. People of all walks of life have access to the media and because of this we all are leaders. We are leaders of our own selves. Keep your opinion yours and to yourself unless it's the truth and you can prove it. I like him and you , stop fighting.
You said it exactly my sister. I made this comment to Maria Loyd's video which was in a similar vein: "It saddens me that African Americans can't sort these kinds of false-messiahs (or any messiahs for that matter) like Umar Johnson out, and learn to stop listening to them without all of the rancour, mean-spiritedness and bile. This young lady has a brilliant point ( which also applies nicely to Africa and the rest of the diaspora as well ) where she says that Blacks need to stop following leaders, and learn to create institutions in order to create a brighter future for themselves. People have to choose improve themselves on an individual level, and then they need to learn how agree upon things, and to work together toward common goals in order for a community as a whole to improve its lot. You don't need 3 million dollars for this, everyone just needs a library card and the willingness to listen, learn, share information, occasionally be wrong, but honest and humble about being wrong, on the road to learning the right, and in general stop trying to be the loudest or the most important person in the room. In the Black community this will require a reintroduction to the very African concept of "Zumunta", or family. This Hausa idea refers to community in the sense of a very large family where the privilege only exist if the individual is being responsible towards all of the other members of the community, and might fit nicely in the black community if something like it were ever adopted by the black community. It doesn't take any money to do this part, just a willingness to deal in facts not religious fantasy, and desire to learn how to improve the community together coupled with an unwavering commitment to do what needs to be done even if it contradicts everything that you have been taught to believe, or which has been done before. I salute you on your clear perception of the situation in the black community.
Long story short, me and my peoples call it the "brand". So the Brand being people of color. If we got beef let's take it out back, never in the front, always protect the brand. Same thing with Cornel West and Travis Smiley with Obama, never in front of people, take the beef out back.
you went wrong with #2.
James Bell ... I didn't go wrong with #2 here's why. The Black community needs leaders and assorted persons to inspire solutions. Each of these men have something to offer, however on different scales but both are important. It is a much better approach to discuss their difference of opinions in private. To announce I'm done via social media with someone, is not wise. It is a public slap and just further divides; which is an illness in the Black community all by itself.
Simp Wars: The Finale, A Slap Fight For Black Women.
ahaha
here take this W. 🎁
+calvaryishere09 ROTFL good one
+calvaryishere09 lol all this over a lying black woman.
+Lewis Olajuwon +J.R. Bell +King Thanks Brothas for the *W*'s, Laughs, and Ups.
For all the Brothas that have figured out that these stumbling blocks that have been holding Black Men back comes from the same source,..well this simp war must have been reassuring. It let us know that we are definitely on the right path, and are going the right direction for success. These dudes are cutting each others heads off like "HighLanders".
All that Maria L Chick had for credentials was a *bookshelf* ...and no money. But she wanted to see a "business plan". LOL.
The *rawest* part was when Boyce kept saying over and over "I have lost money & friends, befriending Umar...I have LOST friends & money sticking with Umar"...Now that's Boyce trying to destroy another Brotha...down to the dust.
These are some teachable moments watching these simps interact and go nowhere...and all they have to say about these destructive Black Women on their crew is "She had a right to raise those good points". LoL.
If Umar was a white guy named Bret, and he raised his total to 4 million dollars that would make sense, as well be brilliant. Because if you have set a goal at 2mil and got 500k, then at 4mil you may raise 500k more,.. now Bret Umar is halfway to his goal at 1 million. Waaahooo. Right?
But Dr. Umar is Black soooo they must stop him now.
Black Women with degrees and Simps who sell DVD's and Wealth Courses can't have that! Another Nicca making moves, hell nooo!!! Because that's *their* power and *their* resources.
This is why I just observe simps and black women...And build where they cannot.
+calvaryishere09 brother, you just have to build where not that many people know what your final result will be until it is done. I'm getting infuriated to see this happening in 2015. Garvey went through it, El-Shabazz (Malcolm) went through it, Dr. King went through it ("Messy Jesse" among others), Dr. Khalid Muhammad went through it, and now this. You have no idea how much this upsets me, especially when I make efforts to support our businesses and schools any way I can...through funds or volunteering because at this point I don't have much but I still support.
We got folks from other countries being able to pull together to start businesses but can't even get folks to put in for a school because they want to see a "business plan"...dude has laid it out for over a year now. What else do you need, a friggin virtual tour?
...and for her to have not much on her account speaks a lot. For me, it just seems like a plot to elevate her own status while trying to tear down someone else's. SMH that's why we stay losing.
Yes yes, Narcissitic. I study Narcissistic behavior and yes Umar has unhealthy levels of it. He uses a lot of double speak and easily gets upset when questioned. There is tons more on Narcissism. People really need to learn what NPD is because these types will destroy you emotionally. by the time you are done with them or when they discard you, you won't even know who the hell you are anymore. They lift you up get you on a high only to tear you down.
slow down, a little knowledge can be more dangerous than no knowledge.
sheliene12 Now that's wise decision making never looked at it like that that type of behavior
***** How do you know whites put the internet together at all. Were you there?
You sound so dumb, there is always a beginning. Computers didn't just automatically start communicating on their own, all this had to be thought out. Damn you're stupid. I guess by your logic computers just came to be without help from any human being.
What you've spoken is FACT...plus TAX!
We as a people need to be smarter in the beginning and question a muthafuckas in the beginning
Thank you for this very much needed video Mr. Watkins. Sometimes I feel like people are so desperate for action that they settle for any nonsense. Dr. Umar has this narcissistic personality that fuels more hate and discrimination.
Dr. Watkins you sound kinda bitter to me?? This is why we as black people cant move forward.
+Drew Point OH ... It's one of the issues. History teaches us that. Look back on all the black leaders we have had and you will find division between them.
+Drew Point OH I do agree that we don't need a leader, but we need teachers to teach and guide us to become a better community. black people have no clue of how to get out of the situation we are in. We do have to power, but don't how to use it. Those other racial group you named have Elders (teachers) that help guide them to keep their traditions and legacy going.
+Duval2k7 Yes I agree 100% your Correct!
+Drew Point OH well bruh somebody has to ring the alarm because most of us are sleep walking right now
+Supreme_Logic We can't move forward because we are gullible, stupid, irresponsible, and SHEEP!!
I thought you said you were done in your last video. You're still talking? SMH! Doc, are you seriously telling us that you have no oversight on the types of people that come on your platform? Hmmmmm. we're here watching oo Doc. Wait til SaNeter gets a hold of this nonsense
you clearly didn't watch his video then...nice try
got cha Doc.
+Boyce Watkins
That is NOT freedom of speech. That makes you very complicit to the content that is posted. If your colleagues posted something about Jews in an attack, CZcams would hold you accountable. Why do you feel you're separate in this context slandering another CZcams member? He can easily have your channel shutdown for these videos as harassment and bullying as well as defamation of his character.
Considering he hasn't even posted a video response yet, you're the only culprit here.
LOL i hear you but it takes time to build a school. It is not done overnight especially in the magnitude that he wants to build it
MacArthur Clutch yes but what am I supposed to do with magic beans though? LOL
I have to be honest. I think it's kind of shady of you to say that you respect Minister Farrakhan and Dr. Umar, but then turn around and post videos of people don't like them on your page. I wouldn't do that people of care about or respect. Maybe that's why Dr. Umar treats you the way he does. Maybe he doesn't trust you.
he clearly said those aren't his opinions and everyone has a right to voice their opinion.
+20willsdude it's still shady no matter how you look at it. This is his channel and he allowed those women to somewhat diss Farrakhan and Umar and that is not cool. I wouldn't dare post videos of people dissing my friend and say oh well it their opinion. That's lame and not right.
you post like a child. check it...the video about Umar that woman posted was a request for information and a rationale. NOT about dislike. and even if it was dislike...it was critica, civil and on point. we have to dislike/criticise in order to 'sharpen swords'.
+mrlawilliamsuk Warmachine Dr. Umar just gave an update about the school on the Breakfast Club about two or three months ago. I just don't feel like he would lie about his school or whatever his goals are on a radio station like that. Sorry for the previous typos, I posted from my phone.
Um.. I'm thinking you didn't even watch the video, did you even read the title? It says why I'm (he's) done with Umar Johnson.
All human beings have egos...not just men
Now that's real talk!
Women don't have egos they have attitudes.
In real life we all do.
Lisa Robnson Only men have egos. Women's "egos" are just their emotional responses to certain things.
A hotep is trying to tell a woman how women are? Wow, that's rare
I love this guy!!!! Such a CLASS ACT!
dude, why are you still going back and forth with Umar? you look childish with all of these videos and it hasnt even been a full whole day yet. Some people aren't going to like you and want you around them, that's life. It seems like you're stalking him now. Let that man be. You keep talking about how you gave money to his school, lost friends over him, love what he do, but you keep going on and on about how he allegedly called some lady the C word. Ok, we heard this 3 times already. Talk about something important.
+OMGbreeezy Keep strong, sistren. I just came from the Facebook page and it's some admin creating this problem. Dr. Johnson is probably at some lecture and doesn't know what's going on.
unclelink Lol. Thank you.
***** Right. That is some type of stuff Tommy Sotomayor would do and none of these conscious brothers should stoop that low. There's no need for constant videos about the same thing over and over again.
+OMGbreeezy Well apparently what he got back for someone asking a question on his platform was childish memes so I think the childish trophy goes to Umar. Some comments Im reading here just sound like people making excuses for him. All that being said I do hope something will result soon as he is near his goal I believe.
Andre Black I'm not a fan of Umar. I'm an Tariq Nasheed type of person. But, I can call out discrepancies when I see them. Boyce can solve this and move on.
why can't some disagree without seeing criticism as hate or ppl who ask questions as the enemy.
RJ TV Because you can criticize to a point to make a point, but after that it just out right abuse and that is what dr. Umar Johnston do. Ppl have the right to ask question with out the harsh backlash.
WE WERE TAUGHT TO HATE EACH OTHER. IT'S THE WILLIE LYNCH SYNDROME CURSES.
This dude is a hater, he's the one with the ego he's literally getting mad that someone is confidently uplifts their self ,he's just like girls getting mad at ig models for looking good... This dude is childish
+Drew Point OH I'm mean their going to talk live in Houston so...
+hookemhorns48 wasn't umar posting memes on his Facebook about boyce. Umar is the one being childish.
+Drew Point OH Watkins is a hater he put other people on his platform to talk shit so it wouldnt look like he the one doing it. its extreme haterism.
you're right he is a hater.
Our most difficult struggle will always be within. I do hope Dr. Watkins & Dr. Johnson can again find common ground. These are two minds best on the same team as opposed to one another. love y'all find a way!!
Umar Johnson can not have one cent of my money without showing a real plan.
Vanessa A. H. shut up
Indigo Melanin ditto.
But u gave those Koreans your Money for that weave.
Vanessa A. H. Excellent Response!
-Mrs. Perez
Joshua Perez Gracias Sra. Perez.
I knew you were full of shit when you "apologized" less than 6 hours ago. Blacks need to wake up and see this guy, Dr. Watkins, for who he really is.
I'm glad you didn't let people deter you from voicing your perspective and opinion. People fail to realize you tried to address it behind closed doors only to be met with childish memes. All of this "The 'community' doesn't need this" talk is ridiculous and outrageous.
What is wrong with this dude the man doesn't respond to you and now your acting like a female this is madness talk to the man one on one your silly doctor Boyce this is comedy right?
This is in no way in defense of Umar Johnson, just a question why is everyone hating on Umar Johnson? Seriously 🤔
Frank Rogers Not one response?!
Because he is a fraud stealing money
“I want to be a King maker!” Priceless Dr. B! You are so inspiring and I’m so glad I subscribe to your channel! Love it ❤️❤️❤️
I know for myself I've started questioning his motives as well as the money. Like any place else, any nonprofit or even business you have to show where the money is going it is a very simple thing to just put that information on your website and then just reference the site. I have supported and worked for a lot of non-profits and I want to know the good that is being done, see the vision, etc.
dr. watkins, please continue with your good work.
This is the first time I've heard you speak and Eye listened to the very end...Brilliant soul. Well done
Umar is just a decent speaker who tries to say the right controversial things to get peoples attention and support.
I knew this Boyce Watkins character was an agent the very first time I listened to him. He is NOT for black progress!
Dr. Watkins PLEASE STOP IT WITH THESE VIDEOS...You Is starting something the Black community DO NOT NEED... A Leadership Beef!! You and Dr Umar are both inspiring individuals, I've been following you for over a year and agree with mostly everything u speak of but this I truly DISAGREE and Dr. Umar...I've been following him over 3 years now and I've seen his work and saw him speak in Chicago in front of gang members, preachers, young black teens, young woman and seen the difference afterwards, he CANT CHANGE THE WORLD DOC...but he has been PUTTING IN WORK!! Dr. Watkins PLEASE speak in front of a 200 lost black men, 100 gang members, and deliver a message that we can't see...Yes sometime us men can have a Big Ego ...he even said that's something he fights with in one of his vids... Just it alone Doc these back 2 Back vids is not Good for Unity and Black Empowerment...
I never call Dr. Umar nor Dr. Watkins LEADERS...I said INSPIRING INDIVIDUALS... I Respect both of these Work...it's just sad that these 2 guys can't get together somehow and bring PEACE to this Shit
Dr. Umar woke up alot young brothers my way. Instead of criticizing the brother, just support him.
J288 MAL blindly?
I agree. We have to begin somewhere and everywhere. Don't just smash down the ideas, get in and be a part of things. Not one person can do all of anything. I support Dr. Umar Johnson. He keeps telling us to stop asking for permission from the oppressors, make our own way! Damn people are seemingly, purposefully, rampantly disregarding this man and his plan for us.
Sometimes we must forgive our brothers and sisters without their request. It is obvious that brother Umar is like all of us, human! and engaging in this work will absolutely make you 'other than yourself'. I can only imagine the stress he is under working with 'us'. Brother Watkins, you are on a higher level therefore must act on a higher level to heal the wounds that divide. The caption, "why I am done with Umar Johnson" is not a good caption and not one becoming a man such as yourself. No explanation needed. Whatever this brother is going through, it will be revealed. Go to him in private, not telling us that you have reached out to him. Show up at one of his lectures or do whatever you can to heal the wounds that divide us. The masses of Black people cannot decipher the bullshit between two great mean, nor should we be put in a position to do so. Stop talking about Umar, just get busy and stay busy with what you do best, i.e. Lifting Black people!
That is true; I don't support Umar Johnson. He is a con man.
Uplifting black people also means telling the truth. Our elders have played a dangerous game for far too long. Telling the truth helps him and us. He's obviously a drug addict today and the money has been squandered. Let's tell the truth and actually realize his idea of a school for black children. Peace be unto all who read this ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾💋
Globalman43 And your proof of this accusation is where Sir ! You’re a true sense of people’s that speak just for the heck of it without sound thinking....Get your ego out of way please....Why don’t we inject ourselves into your personal or professional live so we can see what an upstanding human you’re !!! Shameful really
Ferdinand Ndedi It’s not about my ego. I want proof where my money is being donated to! If someone doesn’t give me information, I need to ask questions!
Dr. Umar is NOT fit to lead me NOR my children.
Who is ?
I agree with this. Critical thinking skills, discernment is very crucial.
I'm with you 100% Dr. Watkins. That rant by umar was shameful. He is a classic narcissist. I can't believe he actually has matriculated through the academic system to a doctorate degree so undisciplined, vulgar, angry and vindictive.
I've read through many of the comments saying "let it go". Some of you go back and forth with a stranger over a difference of opinion regarding your youtube comments! I think Dr. Watkins has the right to speak his peace on his platform much the way that Dr. Umar addresses the "haters" in his platform. Critical thinking requires an individual to ask QUESTIONS. I can be supportive of my community and ask questions. If you are taking public funds I do not feel it is disrespectful to ask the individual or corporate entity to provide a detailed description of how those funds will be allocated.
+Duane Jones Love you too, then, now and always! Too the moon!
Can't respect you more Dr. Watkins!!! I can really appreciate what you are doing for our people. One of the greatest gifts you can share, Knowledge. I support you brother. And thank you.
4 years later and still no FDMG School lol. Go see my friend GotPiff's CZcams channel for insight on Dr Umar
2 years later and your were right Dr. Watkins!!
Astrolutions Personal Care Creations...he saw it 2 years ago...and it came out the wash 3 days ago...glad to see frauds crumble
Clown! Obviously, they were wrong. Dr. Umar has credentials. Boyce, rode both sides of the fence too me. If you're intimidated by another mans ego of himself, somethings going on with you. You should have asked Umar what school he went too. You're partly responsible for this and you started the questions on his credentials. You're still questioning this bull? Boyce, i supported you and have taken your classes on stock market investing but you just assisted in another brothers demise. Also, either you curse or you dont so stop your bullshit and teach finance.
Umar is sketchy . But he went to Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine
@@RealLifeIsh you still waiting, huh? 🤣🤣
I just pray we all come together at some point.
fighting temptation and how well praying to white jesus and blue eyef sky dad has worked in 400 years?
... keep praying then
@@mamuwaldevoudoupractitione3518 I wouldn't know. I don't fuck wit em.
@@randygreenfield4312 ok...😳
Fair comments Mr. Boyce... Well said however, to some degree I can understand Dr. Umar's frustrations... GRANDEURS he may have but I believe his heart is in the right place pertaining to educating our children...
Im also done with umar. even his apology was insincere. He spent more time criticizing us for calling him on his vulgar, hate filled, ego maniacal rant
Umar's smart, but I knew he was delusional when he based the success of Tariq Nasheed's Hidden Colors solely on his own contribution.
Awwwe. Doc I pray you brothers will sit down soon and talk as two beautiful strong BLACK Kings. I love you to pieces😚
Mel Will, I don’t think that it isn’t going to happen.
It saddens me when black folks have conflicts with each other. I know we all have different views and many times disagree with each other. I have many views that others disagree with or may not give voice to for many reasons even if they agree with me. However, I will do my best to stand on truth, not facts. They are not the same (truth is universal, fact are finite). When you stand on truth love is holding you and that truth up. I disagreed with Dr. Boyce for saying Cardi B makes good music. But under no circumstances would I ever disrespect Dr. Boyce. We just have a difference of opinion. But both of us still stand together on top of love. I wish we all can do that.
I love Boyce Watkins! The only thing I would like to see him change on this platform is letting people use his channel to promote their views. Whoever that woman is that speaks needs to make her own CZcams channel. I come here to see Boyce Watkins.
BJ Duncan - Dictatorships don't alot for second opinions.
This is a case of the kettle calling the skillet BLACK!
Big ego or Psychotic? Umar frightens me.
Finally a very balanced and reasonable guy.
This guy looks way older than 44.
Datruthshines
That's what dealing with this stress of bullshit he has to deal with does to ppl
Datruthshines black can and does crack
Datruthshines he do lol
Datruthshines I thought the same thing. like, just 44-year-old? looks like he's pushing damn near 60
Omg I thought he was 55+ I SWEAR
crabs in a barrel
How long is your point?
You and Umar have that in common...
You like to hear yourself talk!
This video is very passive aggresive..stop back tracking..if you want to say Umar fuck off then just say it...geeesh!
And now today 7/17/21 kwame Brown is giving you that same work that you so richly deserve 👏
Dr. Boyce, your inspiring and encouragingly heartfelt words brings me to tears, in a good way.
God bless and love all that you do FUBU. I'm so honored knowing you exist, a positive light! like Jane Pittman :-) leading all out of the darken enslaved mindset.
Your given purpose i see is your passion and love for your OWN people. I'm a bit humbly shy to express when I feel not worthy sometimes but since following and listening to you is setting a flame to build up confidence and trust in me and our people. Thank you for the building up US now and for our next generations.
I can appreciate this video Boyce. I feel that you voiced and expressed your hurt as well as your concern in a very mature manner despite your French LOL. You seem to be a very humble man don't ever loose that. No one is above questioning. People can be brilliant, charismatic, etc and have the wrong intentions. Thank you sir.
Amen! I love you and I pray that all who have listened to this video feel empowered. Thank you so much
I respect Watkins loads. He makes very intelligent clear points.
Kwame brown all day
Will we ever as a race of people learn how to come together and work together for the cause in this lifetime????? 🙁
Outstanding message! Always question before you join any movement of want to follow leadership. Never follow anything or anyone with blind faith.
That’s what some people are caught up not seeing Umar Johnson for whom he is.
We've been in this sheep mentality for too long... at a very low state, why can't we join together and have different opinions?
I respect you Boyce Watkins.
His degree is from Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine
😂😂😂
That was a well balanced perspective. I've experienced the same over-hyped and angry responses after asking simple questions.
Brotha! this is exactly why we can't be a unit...stop letting these inserts divide us. You two are our only hope. We need the both of you to lead not argue and being real childish. please!!!
If you're really upset about the crowd funding and you donated money to it and you want to know where it's going, how about you quit all this talking and take legal actions like Tariq Nasheed did Tommy Sotomayor.
This hurts to see my brothers bicker over things that should not be as important as the big picture. We have to put our petty differences aside and work together by any means for the sake of our future
Truth, Knowledge, and Wisdom has no friends, shows no favoritism. Life involves questions, so don't take them personal. We do need blueprints, our people are very tangible. Thanks for the video brethren, good job.
I've emailed Umar as well to get him on the show but his people responded once and didn't respond back
so I have a question since I'm relatively new to Dr Uma. is there an actual secondary plan to go forward with the school? I understand he wants to buy a school at a certain price range but let's say he doesn't get the school or money he wants. Will he open a smaller one and build on that one?
19:57 I was hoping we wouldn't be in this rut a hundred years from now LOL
And Dr. Watkins I commend you for speaking your TRUTH!
I stopped messing with Umar a while back when he was getting in his feelings about his baby mama. He lashes out just like pimp pastors do when they get questioned by their members.
You can't expect people to invest in you when dont answer their questions. The people deserve answers. This is business 101.
Qiana Chimere Give to the godly man, and help not a sinner. Do well unto him that is lowly, but give not to the ungodly: hold back thy bread, and give it not unto him, lest he overmaster thee thereby: for [else] thou shalt receive twice as much evil for all the good thou shalt have done unto him.
Ecclesiasticus 12:4-5 KJVA
bible.com/546/sir.12.4-5.KJVA
This is the most mature response concerning this matter that I've seen. May God bless all of our bredren, and help us all develop humilitiy. Yes, humility...because then, the Almighty can exalt us to heights no one can pull us down from. Peace, amani iwe nanyi.
I don’t understand why people are questioning dr Umar School and his credentials..... but go to church and give the pastor money with out question and pastors don’t do shit to help black People but feed them fake garbage that keeps them broke --- sadddddddd 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Tanisha Adjo Because Umar is a Fraud and has been exposed only people supporting him still are the ones who also support the church and give them there money
His credentials are not being questioned by the people. Although, he has artfully crafted it to seem that way . He's a smart man and good at diversion tactics .
The only thing that we can really say because we are not privy to his information is that, the board wants to speak to him and possibly discipline him for Action that is not okay.
Umar bringing partial information to the public is nothing more than diverting attention from the correct questions to be asked. Which would be for me... What exactly is the board wanting to discipline you for? He speaks some too many vague statemens but not specific details. I learned when I was young, to stay away from those fast talkers, who don't give hard concrete details,where you can pin them down on
Tanisha Adjo Plus , they are willing to purchase that individual with expensive vehicles.
Tanisha Adjo I love dr. Umar and I'm very ashamed of this guy doing a video start this type of bullshit with dr. Umar by asking social media where did he go to school or earn his degree instead of asking dr. Umar his self .... that was messy and divisive makes people start to think and question who you are just absolutely terrible. But I stand with dr. Umar Johnson cuz he's a stand-up gentleman who's brought amazing stuff to our community
the church is one of the biggest scammers/frauds in history.
Dr. Watkins thank you for your heartfelt honesty and the knowledge you have beenn sharing. Peace
Dr watkins...I respect the way you tackle these issues...I feel exactly the same way and I'm not a doctor
Thank you so much Dr. Boyce Watkins for your work and your life. I appreciate your honesty and vision. Be blessed. Peace
Powerful talk. This too shall pass. I know you are sharing this out of love for the brother. I pray that you both come together in the future for the love of our people. Peace 🙏🏾
We don't need this! If you don't agree with him, don't trust him whatever......leave it alone! When black people fight each other none of us wins!!
Muhammad Ali confessed and or proclaimed he was the greatest. I believe he was sending out positive energy out into the universe. He later admitted his pride....but....i admire Muhammad Ali's love of self. He encourage black people to be proud of what God made them. Dr. Umar is not perfect and he make mistakes too because he is human. Whatever he did i hope it is not deemed him unforgivable.
Half a MILLION dollars?? No wonder why he's going around saying he's the "King!" lol
-Tko
+Tonya Tko Show hey girl :x
Charles Xavior hey boyyyyy!
storyorator baby, the "lol" indicates I was laughing when I said it... it was a joke. I don't know Umar, nor what he's doing or why, nor will I invest the time in figuring it out... in this life, I'm here to figure out My SELF. You should do the same -- instead of worrying about whose quick to "judge" , whose spending money on what, about Umar, or Me, or anyone else, invest the time in looking inside... figure yourself out, completely and fully. Figure out what's compelling you to attempt to enter into these senseless internet arguments. Invest some time in perfecting your storytelling or oration skills. Figure out your dreams, passions & reasons for living... when you begin to do that -- why someone else is laughing on the internet seems minuscule bay.
1 love
peace
-Tko
Yes yes dear... There there....
-Tko
+Tonya Tko Show I feel about pro-blacks, the same that I feel about pro-whites. Plain and simple. No double standards.
Dr. Watkins, you have a long time track record in serving our community in a postive and contructive manner. You are known by your record of service and this discussion need not be had. Thank you for your honest and transparent representation over the years and you are fully justified by the work you do. Thank you.
I don't understand what the problem is. If he is asking for money from the public, we have a right to ask what his plan is and how the money is going to be spent. He should eagerly make the information available if he is on the up and up. The reason why black people get scammed all the time is because we are too scared or ignorant to ask questions. It just seems a little shady to me.