When I was a kid visiting Disney World for the first time, some of the rides that I found the most memorable were the ones not based on pre-existing IPs. Rides are a great medium to introduce audiences to brand new characters and stories they've never seen before, so it's a huge missed opportunity to actively choose not to do that. That said, I've always wanted rides for The Lion King, Aladdin, and Lilo and Stitch, so hopefully this at least means we may be one step closer to those existing.
It is both hilarious and ironic that the MOST POPULAR rides at Disneyland are Pirates, Mansion, Big Thunder, small world and, of course, Space Mountain. NONE OF THEM ARE IP SUPPORTED!
I know! I’m like: Do these executives realize exactly how fast *any* Haunted Mansion merch sells out? Or Pirates? Plus, Big Thunder technically ties into the Haunted Mansion.
Yes, but they all came opened decades ago. And Mansion at Disneyland is most popular when it converts to Nightmare (IP), and Space Mountain during “Hyper” overlay which is…you guessed it…IP! And for that matter Pirates became more popular when they added elements from the movies (and many people under 20’s think the attraction is based on the movie, not the other way around - to them it’s IP!)
I’m guessing Eric has been opinionated for a bit but needed the opportunity to be empowered to rant like Tom. Now we’ve got both their unfiltered opinions and it’s great.
Gotta love corporate executive logic. To be so far removed from the reality of normal people that they can't understand why we get upset over this level of greed.
I dunno. The entire park has always been centered around ip via the castle and mickey. I don't know if it's a big deal either way. I'd like something that starts with imagineers instead of film but we'll see if it matters
A confident Iger is the worst possible thing we could hear. I don't think he could get gone soon enough for me, and even then, he's just done so much damage.
@@jjperceval... who was selected by Iger himself, and basically continued the policies of Iger. Iger is the man who bought Pixar, Marvel and Lucasfilm, so he could stuff the Parks with IP-attractions. Iger is also the man who wanted Disney+, the streaming service full of mediocre and bad shows, that loses billions of dollars every year.
@jjperceval it's about 90% Iger and 10% Chapek when you really break it down. The majority of problems are Iger's responsibility, but Chapek threw gasoline on the fire.
the way that disney has turned Figment, Orange Bird, The Haunted Mansion, and all that into large profitable engines for merchandise will always make me wonder why they don't have confidence in creating other new park specific stories. If you're confident enough in Figment and the Mansion to make movies, why don't you think you can make more original ideas in parks into profitable franchises? I suppose they just fear they can't market anything that isn't an existing IP well enough to get people in the gates.
Because it's hard to pitch a new ride when they now have so much IP in their back pocket that isn't used. Kids right now aren't excited for generic black hole coaster even if well-themed. They want Guardians of the Galaxy. With an IP, you can sell pre-existing merch, already have the voice actors around, already have a basic frame for the story, already have easy as hell marketing, and have your songs written for you. It's no wonder that they realized this early on, their biggest competitor is also making an almost entirely IP park and its blowing up on the internet. People want IP. The super super Disney fans of course want a mix of both but WDW's main audience are those once in a lifetime guests who want to see the new rides based on their favorite movie. Not to mention the international crowd reacts FAR better to something they know. It doesnt matter if Frozen Ever After is in English because a Native Spanish Speaker will still get the idea based on what they already know.
Non-IP rides at the OG DL: jungle cruise, pirates, haunted mansion, matterhorn, splash mountain, small world, big thunder, mark twain, columbia, tikiroom, skyway, utopia, space mountain, main street vehicles, dl railroad, carousel of progress, adventures through inner space, pirate ship, country bears, autopia, flight to the moon, monorail, peoplemover
Jungle Cruise (as well as the defunct Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland) were inspired in part by Disney's True-Life Adventure documentary series.
If you're referring to the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship, that was likely inspired by Peter Pan, because it was moored next to Skull Rock from that film.
Disney World is the IP. As long as they build a good ride it doesn’t matter if it’s based on a previous movie, people will come. Invest in original rides Iger
The last original storylined attraction that was built was Mystic Manor in Hong Kong. I heard from an imagineer waaay back when it opened that it would most likely be the last original attraction built by WDI. Sad as Mystic Manor is one of the best if not the best attraction in Disney’s catalog.
I think it was a dumb statement, there 100% needs to be balance between IP/Non IP. But I also don’t think it’s the end of the world with IP at the moment, and I wouldn’t say it’s anything new (Star Tours, Indiana Jones, Twilight Zone, Lion King shows/parades, tons of ESPN stuff in the 90s for example). For example, Tron is IP, but Tron wasn’t popular in the same way as Frozen or Moana, and its use in the parks goes back to at least the 90s on the People Mover at Disneyland. Test Track 2.0 and Soarin were both updated (including the 3rd theater) and not IP based. Runaway Railway is technically IP but not based off any recent movies. Guardians is easily one of the best two rides at WDW, but the campy feel reminds me more of Rock N Roller Coaster. In general, I’d much rather have a well executed IP based ride than a non IP ride (not to say they can’t do both!). Also Tokyo Disney Resort I don’t think has had any major new non-IP based rides in the past 10 years, unless you count Soarin, and they run their parks sort of separately, so it’s not just the WDW/DL parks. In any case I would definitely like to see more non-IP, and hopefully the pendulum will swing the other way at some point.
Disney's main function should be the CREATION of IPs, and then when struggling pull out some IPs to return to for safer bets to help out the hard times until they return to their groove of creation. Audiences will NOT keep consuming the SAME ips nonstop, it WILL run out. This is just a stupid and horrible gameplan
@@ethanshackleton Disney and Universal are NOT the same. Disney's biggest mistake was copying Universal. Iger is bragging at this meeting how they don't need to answer Epic Universe because it's Universal who is "catching up" to Disney in his words. Sorry but the last decade has been Iger trying to copy the Wizarding world's success. Pretty sure Disney never did singular IP based lands until Universal pulled out Wizarding World. Now Disney is following trends set by Universal rather then being the trend setter. Disney has to pull away and go back to cultivating the Disney experience in both film and park.
@@davidfitzsimmons2451Wow… you are SOOOOO blind. Disneys biggest mistake was not accepting Harry Potter. So now they have to compete with them to make immersive one of a kind rides and lands. Disney needs more IP to compete with the experiences and lands Universal is cranking out. Would you rather go see Super Mario or would you rather go on a boat ride through the Germany Pavilion. Disney doesn’t care about what YOU want. Disney cares about what kids and families want. Immersive attractions with the characters they saw on the big screen.
@@LifeformChris Saying that Disney needs IP to compete just shows that they no longer make quality experiences and need to depend on pre-existing movie fans to get guests into their park. Kids and families would enjoy new characters and worlds created by the imagineers just as much as the ones they see in their favorite movies. Dreamfinder and Figment made such as impression on guests that people still won't stop talking about the ride decades after it was removed, and they are not based on any movie.
@@LifeformChris I'm sorry, is figment NOT making a ton of money? Kids still love haunted mansion and jungle cruise. And Disney honestly was NEVER going to be a good fit with Harry Potter. Disney world have never put out the experience Universal did. They are different companies with different ideologies and strategies Or at least they were, now Disney is too busy trying to be universal. Recycling IPs is fine to a point, but Disney HAS to be continually making new IP and ideas alongside the recycles.
Someone posted a list of "OG" Disneyland attractions not based upon Disney IP. So here's a list of DL attractions opened within the first five years (1955 - 1960) that WERE based on Disney films: Mad Tea Party, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Peter Pan's Flight, Jungle Cruise (based in part on True-Life Adventure films), Snow White's Adventures, Casey Jr. Circus Train, Dumbo the Flying Elephant, Alice in Wonderland, Matterhorn Bobsleds (Inspired by "Third Man on the Mountain"), Mine Train through Nature's Wonderland (based in part on True-Life Adventure films), Sleeping Beauty Castle walk-through, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea exhibit (Tomorrowland), Mickey Mouse Club Theater.
You either don’t know the history or care to ignore it. Walt put in a boatload of IP into Disneyland when it opened! Did you know it’s called Sleeping Beauty Castle because the movie was about to come out that same summer and it was a way to promote it? Wow! Walt purposely put IP into the park to promote a movie!!! Imagine that!!!! Or Davy Crockett from the Disney TV series, all the IP in Fantasyland. Even the Matterhorn was based on a movie called d”Three Men on a Mountain”. Not all was IP for sure, but then that was the 1950’s when there was no cable TV, no social media, and so on. What the public wants now has changed and IP sells at Disney, Universal, and every other theme park that can grab onto it!
@@FunAtDisneytoo bad their modern IP sucks and they lack the imagineering talent and the financial interest to do anything that’d be decent. They will become increasingly culturally irrelevant as they penny pinch the only things people love about the Disney company to dump into money pits no one wants. Why are you licking their shoes, they don’t care about you
People forget when EPCOT was built all the attractions had sponsors and that’s how it was built. If you want original ideas then you have to have a sponsor come along and support that idea.
@@kevincaywood You are correct. But if you recall there was this struggle between Imagineers John Hench and Marilyn Sklar about having or not having any characters (or “IP”) in Epcot. I forget who wanted not having them but they won out, which proved to be a huge mistake. I was there on opening day and my friend and I (both about 25 at the time) LOVED EPCOT wholeheartedly! But we would often overhear other guests asking where are the characters and that this didn’t seem like a Disney place. So within a year the characters were brought in. My point is even back then people wanted to see what is familiar.
Universal was always built with a "Ride the Movies" design philosophy. They do that very well, but Disney shouldn't be copying them because their parks were built with a different mindset.
@@happyhauntzz You are misunderstanding my point. Universal does not have the same legacy of non-ip attractions as Disney. All I can think of is Lost Continent, but that never became as iconic as something like Haunted Mansion. There is a reason why I prefer Disney over Universal, and that is because Disney tried to be more than "Ride the Movies." I would love Universal to build non-IP attractions, but I can't yell at them for not doing so since they have barely showed an interest in that. And when I mean copying, I meant the obsession with IP-lands. Aside from Cars Land (which started off as a non-IP land), Disney didn't fully commit to IP lands until Universal started getting attention because of them.
@@fredlopez5213 I guess that is mostly true, but when Disneyland opened, Fantasyland was IP related, and characters roamed the parks. Same with Magic Kingdom. IP sells merchandise, that's the bottom line.
@@Charles_Stanley13 Thats true, but Fantasyland was really the only land whose theme was to experience the worlds of the movies (whereas the theme of every land and park built at Universal is "ride the movies"). IP does have a place in the parks, but Disney was built to be more than a place to meet your favorite movie characters. Merch sales may be important to the executives. but they shouldn't lower the standards of the Disney Parks and quiet the original stories the imagineers want to tell that can only be told in this unique storytelling medium.
Its been nearly 15 years since a original non IP ride in the USA parks (Expedition Everest) since then everything new has been IP. This is NOTHING new for the company since the Bobs took over from Eisner. (Everest was in the works before the bobs) Eisner may have not had a perfect batting average but he at least took chances and had a more creative bone in his body than both Bobs.
If all new attractions will be based on existing IP, and all new movies going forward will also be based on existing IP, then that is the death of creativity within the company. No new innovation, just rehashing more of the same.
I hate that Disney uses only movies for their rides now. Disney stole Universal Studios original theme park tagline of ride the movies. That's all Disney is anymore. It doesn't even make sense to have a studio theme park on Walt Disney property when the entirety of Disney property is just one big studio Park now. They are putting themselves in this situation now where they are going to have to continue to create sequels for all of these movies because now they're going to have outdated rides based on movies that don't exist anymore. Instead of creating original attraction ideas that can withstand the test of time all on their own without having to spend extra money by creating SQL movies to them. I hate what Disney is doing now. Bob Iger makes me just as irritated as Bob chapek at this point. 🤷
Just in case D23 no longer exists for the foreseeable future, Universal CAN have their own convention that primarily focuses on a mixture of IPs, horror nights, theme park enhancements (additions), upcoming movies and TV & so many more!
I don’t understand. Your most popular attraction that made you what are today are almost non-ip. The most popular character in all of the Disney resorts is original. The most beloved attractions are original. So I don’t understand why you are going to throw in I-P that eventually will not withstand the test of time and you guys always say “we want this to be timeless” yet it won’t. You ruined what Epcot and Hollywood studios were with this thinking. You are holding the brilliant imagineers tight and won’t let them do their jobs. look as long as IP fits into the story of the park then that’s fine but not every IP is going to fit in every park and sometimes you just gotta do some thinking. This might work now but it won’t work later.
How does Iger know that IP resonates with guests more if he has never greenlit a major non-IP project? All I can think of are the IP rethemes of non-IP rides he oversaw, but most of those rides were either originally nothing special (like California Screamin') or the retheme was generally well-made (like Mission Breakout). The IP had nothing to do with it. I think he just wants to copy Universal's success rather than build "Disney" parks (Disney Adventure World even feels like an Epic Universe knock-off).
Glad to see so many are not liking the "nearly all IP" announcement. I don't understand why, almost seems like they think the only way to successfully progress in the future is through character or studio IP as you say. Maybe it does deliver the desired dollars up front, but not sure it can deliver what should be the most important thing, which is guest experience. I really don't think they care about what people think. Or they seem to be going out of their way to make it clear. Sure, I'm a bit older, maybe I don't get it. In my opinion, the best rides at MK were mostly non-IP based, and for the most part, is what made Walt Disney World a great experience. I'm not, nor have I ever been interested in all the IP, even as a kid. Nothing wrong with creating the IP from the attraction either. Overall just seems like such a strange thing to announce, especially since that's all that's been going on for the most part anyway. I want to see some of what made the magic, original recipe style. I still can't get over Maelstrom.
Anyone else a little nervous about the fact there's no footage of what's replacing the dragon scene at Fantasmic? $100 says they're just doing the B Show with just the Malificent tower and nothing new.
Original works from W.D.I. are intellectual property. What you mean to say is "pre-existing intellectual property." In other words, Iger is so unsure of himself that he will only allow Imagineering to create derivative works.
If Iger showed any, you know, *imagination*, he’d endorse original IP that could be just as successful as Orange Bird and Figment. Encanto is the only successful studio film that can carry IP merch in the parks since Frozen, which was 2013.
I had been going to WDW since I was 2. Personally, I think they're at their best when they MIX original and pre-existing IP. Just fisting IP into everything feels dull.
This is why we need a group of creative, unapologetic and brave billionaires to buy the Walt Disney Company and rescue it from these bean counters who never had a creative and imaginative cell in their bodies.
These billionaires would only keep the Parks, the Movie Studio, Pixar and Disney+. Sell off everything else. Then with all that money they can concentrate on the creative and imaginative.
Disney media IP is supposed to be a bit of ‘spice’ in the parks, not the entire experience. How many years has it been since each debuted a truly original major attraction without a blockbuster movie, character, or brand as its reason for being? Most of the park additions seem to have been strongly tied to the movies, instead of rides like Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Big Thunder I understand absolutely that it is essential that Disney Parks grow and change and incorporate new intellectual properties (so long as they pass the Timeless Test and respect the park’s identity, we hope); on the other, though, Disney Parks are not mere showcases for modern blockbusters. Disney parks are not museums, but they are historic places. Generations of tradition lie within every square foot of the parks, so the decision to insert intellectual property has to be made carefully, and with balance like Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure, Rise of the Resistance, etc. To be honest unless Bob Iger rand the Disney Co. changes their mind I really don't think we will see a North American Disney take on a ride not based on an IP ever again like like Mystic Manor. Just my guess thought.the imagineers at the parks are supposed to be generating new, fresh ideas and IP such as Figment, Soarin’, Mission Space, Haunted Mansion, Rockin’ Roller Coaster, etc. without being just rehash of movies and shows.
Sad. I started with Disney in 2000 and it has progressively gotten dumbed down. Walt would be disappointed by the corporate-ization is twisting his dream.
As I've said for years, Iger and this management team have run off all the good people EVERYWHERE, but especially at WDI. The ones that had original ideas have been run off or left. They can't think original about ANYTHING, not the rides or the hotels. The hotels now look like a bad Marriott or Sheraton and there will NEVER be another Pirates, Tiki Room, Matterhorn, Small World, Big Thunder, Everest or the MANY other popular attractions in both domestic parks or any other with the exception of Japan. OLC is the ONLY place or hope for any originality left for anything Disney. Iger is too stupid in some ways to have said anything else. He trashed the most popular single ride in the world to replace it with something NOBODY asked for. The parks are full of successful non-IP things, from Figment to Orange Bird to almost all of Animal Kingdom and EPCOT. But those things required original thinking and true talent, which the current staff/management doesn't have anymore!
Figment not being IP but that's not technically accurate, a Figment film is in production so it will be IP soon. I doubt Figment is going anywhere and I would even bank on him having a big place in the parks future even if the film doesn't kill it in the box office.
I'd love to see the Imagineers make him walk the plank at Pirates of the Caribbean. I know this company has seen some rough patches before, but this guy is unbelievable.
Honestly, I'm glad I decided to not become a DVC member. The hotels look underwhelming basic and clash with already established properties and now focusing only on studio IPs is a huge swing and miss. Test Track was amazing before it was Tronafied and do I even need to point out how many people have been on the Haunted Mansion rides versus how many have seen either movie?
But the Disney movies these days are based on park IP! It’s gotten so bad with a drought of new creativity that they keep making live action remakes of animated IP. What do you get when Disney, being unaccustomed to originality and creativity, tries these days? Strange World! And the most recent movie is a wink and nod to old IP and my “wish” came true in that we didn’t bother going to see it. Disney needs to try brainstorming assuming anyone with a brain is left there.
If Disney continues to cram and retheme princess IP into everything they will forever lose the boy market to Universal who have much hipper and more current IP eg Mario, HP, dragons, monsters etc
I don’t hate this, but this also very sadly makes sense… Disney could have prevented this new standard that both they and Universal Studios have to live up to, but they didn’t. And that’s a mistake, because when you compare the IPs that Universal has to work with as opposed to Disney… Universal wins that battle…
Well that’s the death knell for the parks, I gave up on these parks over the last couple years. IP based rides make no sense because they get dated quickly. These guys are really disappointing. At this point I should just build my own park. Because that’s the only way I’m going to get to experience something neat.
For me the rides with original characters are secondary. Pirates, HM, Journey, they’re great, but… My favorite rides at WDW deal with the human experience. Look, even Mission: Space was special, despite replacing Horizons. They literally tried to recreate the wonder of spaceflight and impressed NASA astronauts. Horizons itself was inspirational. Kilimanjaro Safaris and Everest are both exciting rides but at the same time present other cultures and parts of the world in detail. Pirates and HM are both great, but Flight to the Moon and Jungle Cruise were forefathers to some of the most special attractions at Disney Parks. And it’s not really edutainment so much as an art piece allowing you to *experience* that part of humanity/history/etc through an entertaining but inspirational lens. Bring back inspirational storytelling please. Thanks.
I'm kinda confused. Wasn't one of Walts major ideas that he wanted to do was bring his animation to life in the parks? I think it's ok. I do think they should do great ideas whether based on ip or not but it was one of his CORE ideas.
I don't think the villain here is Iger; it's Wall Street. Disney like all public companies is under pressure to produce growth quarter after quarter, and clinging to movie IP is the safest way to do that. The Disney of the 1960's, or even the Eisner era, was not under the same degree of pressure. They could try new things because investors were more tolerant.
Okay, so Disney just HAD to get rid of all that upsetting "Song of the South" stuff, but was there a need to change the name from Splash Mountain? The attraction will ALWAYS be "Splash Mountain" to me.
They have to compete with Universal and Universal Studios is all about IP GALORE! Walt Disney based the Pirates of the Caribbean theme park ride on pirate folklore, novels, and legends, including Treasure Island (1883) by Robert Louis Stevenson
Song Of The South is full of IP potential..I wonder what ride Disney can make from that? Creative bankruptcy at its finest! Bob Ego is running what is left of this company into the ground!
The only difference between iger and chapek's reigns at this point is just the speed in how bad it got. Chapek crashed and burned quick while iger's been slowly burning away even before he returned.
I don’t understand all the hate for Iger. He was retired and came out of retirement to try and save Disney that was already going down for the third time. He has a thankless job and could walk away tomorrow. Nobody should expect immediate recovery. Change is painful for all of us sideline quarterbacks because we all feel he should do this or that because that is what we feel should be done. He isn’t the guy that made the call to kill splash mountain, a move that most of us feel was just plain stupid. He didn’t make the decisions that are effecting the parks now, but he is expected to lower the price of tickets, give us all free food and drink, provide free parking, open new rides every few months, eliminate waiting times, put out great movies every month and pay all the cast members 100 grand a year to name a few on our collective wish list. Keeping Disney profitable is a dirty job. I hope he succeeds because I want my great grandkids to be able to enjoy a great Disney experience.
Yes I agree. People loved than hated Eisner, same with Iger. It is typical of people who do not understand how corporations work. Were mistakes and missteps made by both? Of course there was, but overall the pluses majorly outweighed the minus.
@user-li2yv5je5e exactly. And he spent *far* too much on the Fox acquisition, not to mention letting Star Wars become a very hollow shell of what it used to be. The live action remakes have mostly been hot garbage, the parks are dirty and the over-reliance on mobile apps sucks, the hotels are becoming typical generic boxes (RIP classic Polynesian), he keeps trying to shove Disney+ on to people. I can't honestly think of a single thing Iger has done that we the audience have benefited from.
@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 And there it is…. right out of the moronic comment playbook! I can’t come up with anything original to say so let’s throw in the Fox thing. Nice! By the way, are you running a multi-billion dollar company???
@@FunAtDisneyhey leave her alone! She was just saying her opinion. And honestly, I can agree with them because what Disney is doing right now is not helping the company. Either way, they’re losing what makes them loved in the first place.
@@celestiadrools9551 Because it was the same misguided comment. Yes, Fox cost billions for sure. But it is already paying off. And if you know anything about corporations you would know they have to have a 10, 20, and 30 year plan for the investors (SEC rules!) Fox is certainly a long term planned investment. So when I see comments like that it show the ignorance of not knowing how corporations long-term investments and outlooks work. So I firmly stand by what I said. And I say the same of yours “what Disney is doing RIGHT NOW in not helping the company” That is short-sighted. Oh and by the way, that was said of Walt when he was building Disneyland and it took a few years to turn a profit from that endeavor. Gee, I wonder how that turned out ??????? (And by the way, similar comments were made about Steve Jobs and Apple over this new fangled phone they brought out “why is a computer company getting into the phone business?”)
@user-li2yv5je5e One ride does not absolve an entire park of not being "all IP". Epcot, AK, and MK have more non-IP based attractions than Epic. The point is that is the future and if you complain Disney is doing it too much, you have to complain Universal is doing it too much as well.
The Venn Diagram of people that think Universals Epic Universe is a Disney killer and of people that think IP in Disney parks is a fireable offense is a circle. Never change, DisTwits. 😂🤡🤡🤡
Disney freaks are so funny. First they complain when things aren’t built or built at a fast pace. Then they complain when Disney announces projects based on IP. Disney people sure do love to complain a lot. But guess what if they don’t like it there’s a certain epic universe they can visit…
Iger just admitted that he does not have a team of imaginears creative enough to come up with original ideas for rides.
When I was a kid visiting Disney World for the first time, some of the rides that I found the most memorable were the ones not based on pre-existing IPs. Rides are a great medium to introduce audiences to brand new characters and stories they've never seen before, so it's a huge missed opportunity to actively choose not to do that. That said, I've always wanted rides for The Lion King, Aladdin, and Lilo and Stitch, so hopefully this at least means we may be one step closer to those existing.
It is both hilarious and ironic that the MOST POPULAR rides at Disneyland are Pirates, Mansion, Big Thunder, small world and, of course, Space Mountain. NONE OF THEM ARE IP SUPPORTED!
I know! I’m like: Do these executives realize exactly how fast *any* Haunted Mansion merch sells out? Or Pirates? Plus, Big Thunder technically ties into the Haunted Mansion.
I forgot PeopleMover, Adventure thru Inner Space, Carousel of Progress, Horizons and Journey through Imagination
None of them are ip based yet
Yes, but they all came opened decades ago. And Mansion at Disneyland is most popular when it converts to Nightmare (IP), and Space Mountain during “Hyper” overlay which is…you guessed it…IP! And for that matter Pirates became more popular when they added elements from the movies (and many people under 20’s think the attraction is based on the movie, not the other way around - to them it’s IP!)
If Tom had been reporting this...oh the rant!😂
Eric is getting better and better. Now we need those Eric rants.
I’m guessing Eric has been opinionated for a bit but needed the opportunity to be empowered to rant like Tom. Now we’ve got both their unfiltered opinions and it’s great.
Bob "IP" Iger attempting to assimilate with the masses: "I'd like to introduce you to my wife, Merger. These are our children, ProductA and ProductB."
Iger, D’maro, Vahle and Potrock have all proven they don’t understand Disney Parks. They all need to go.
8:18 Figment is the “Mickey Mouse” of EPCOT. No movie or tv show required.
Gotta love corporate executive logic. To be so far removed from the reality of normal people that they can't understand why we get upset over this level of greed.
Iger only understands running things into the ground.
He doesn't understand creativity.
Well this is the guy who ruined Twin Peaks, so I'm not too surprised. He's pure anti-creativity.
@user-li2yv5je5ewell that’s just baloney
Iger is pretty much saying that Imagineering is so full of hacks now that it is no longer a creative engine for the company.
I dunno. The entire park has always been centered around ip via the castle and mickey. I don't know if it's a big deal either way. I'd like something that starts with imagineers instead of film but we'll see if it matters
I wish that the imagineers can trust themselves when it comes to creative storytelling through rides.
A confident Iger is the worst possible thing we could hear. I don't think he could get gone soon enough for me, and even then, he's just done so much damage.
Not as much as cheapskate
@@jjperceval... who was selected by Iger himself, and basically continued the policies of Iger.
Iger is the man who bought Pixar, Marvel and Lucasfilm, so he could stuff the Parks with IP-attractions.
Iger is also the man who wanted Disney+, the streaming service full of mediocre and bad shows, that loses billions of dollars every year.
@@jjpercevalbless your heart. It was iger all along
@jjperceval it's about 90% Iger and 10% Chapek when you really break it down. The majority of problems are Iger's responsibility, but Chapek threw gasoline on the fire.
Iger started the mess and Chapek made it worse.
the way that disney has turned Figment, Orange Bird, The Haunted Mansion, and all that into large profitable engines for merchandise will always make me wonder why they don't have confidence in creating other new park specific stories. If you're confident enough in Figment and the Mansion to make movies, why don't you think you can make more original ideas in parks into profitable franchises?
I suppose they just fear they can't market anything that isn't an existing IP well enough to get people in the gates.
Because it's hard to pitch a new ride when they now have so much IP in their back pocket that isn't used. Kids right now aren't excited for generic black hole coaster even if well-themed. They want Guardians of the Galaxy. With an IP, you can sell pre-existing merch, already have the voice actors around, already have a basic frame for the story, already have easy as hell marketing, and have your songs written for you. It's no wonder that they realized this early on, their biggest competitor is also making an almost entirely IP park and its blowing up on the internet. People want IP. The super super Disney fans of course want a mix of both but WDW's main audience are those once in a lifetime guests who want to see the new rides based on their favorite movie. Not to mention the international crowd reacts FAR better to something they know. It doesnt matter if Frozen Ever After is in English because a Native Spanish Speaker will still get the idea based on what they already know.
They have a tendency to push out or to not trust their artists so they leave. of course they can’t do it anymore, unfortunately
I would love to see a Lion King ride at Animal Kingdom
Non-IP rides at the OG DL: jungle cruise, pirates, haunted mansion, matterhorn, splash mountain, small world, big thunder, mark twain, columbia, tikiroom, skyway, utopia, space mountain, main street vehicles, dl railroad, carousel of progress, adventures through inner space, pirate ship, country bears, autopia, flight to the moon, monorail, peoplemover
Splash Mountain was based on Song of the South.
Jungle Cruise (as well as the defunct Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland) were inspired in part by Disney's True-Life Adventure documentary series.
If you're referring to the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship, that was likely inspired by Peter Pan, because it was moored next to Skull Rock from that film.
Disney World is the IP. As long as they build a good ride it doesn’t matter if it’s based on a previous movie, people will come. Invest in original rides Iger
The future? WDW hasn’t build a non-IP ride in 18 years!
Don't Worry! In Two More Years, He will Step Down for Good According to Him
Exactly. idk why anyone is surprised. Disney now is very different than Disney then.
@@Animator_Alex I Am Sure Disney will soon be like Then because 2D Animation will Plan to Return
The last original storylined attraction that was built was Mystic Manor in Hong Kong. I heard from an imagineer waaay back when it opened that it would most likely be the last original attraction built by WDI. Sad as Mystic Manor is one of the best if not the best attraction in Disney’s catalog.
I think it was a dumb statement, there 100% needs to be balance between IP/Non IP. But I also don’t think it’s the end of the world with IP at the moment, and I wouldn’t say it’s anything new (Star Tours, Indiana Jones, Twilight Zone, Lion King shows/parades, tons of ESPN stuff in the 90s for example).
For example, Tron is IP, but Tron wasn’t popular in the same way as Frozen or Moana, and its use in the parks goes back to at least the 90s on the People Mover at Disneyland. Test Track 2.0 and Soarin were both updated (including the 3rd theater) and not IP based. Runaway Railway is technically IP but not based off any recent movies. Guardians is easily one of the best two rides at WDW, but the campy feel reminds me more of Rock N Roller Coaster. In general, I’d much rather have a well executed IP based ride than a non IP ride (not to say they can’t do both!).
Also Tokyo Disney Resort I don’t think has had any major new non-IP based rides in the past 10 years, unless you count Soarin, and they run their parks sort of separately, so it’s not just the WDW/DL parks.
In any case I would definitely like to see more non-IP, and hopefully the pendulum will swing the other way at some point.
Disney's main function should be the CREATION of IPs, and then when struggling pull out some IPs to return to for safer bets to help out the hard times until they return to their groove of creation.
Audiences will NOT keep consuming the SAME ips nonstop, it WILL run out. This is just a stupid and horrible gameplan
Except universal has been doing the exact same thing since it opened.
@@ethanshackleton Disney and Universal are NOT the same. Disney's biggest mistake was copying Universal. Iger is bragging at this meeting how they don't need to answer Epic Universe because it's Universal who is "catching up" to Disney in his words. Sorry but the last decade has been Iger trying to copy the Wizarding world's success. Pretty sure Disney never did singular IP based lands until Universal pulled out Wizarding World. Now Disney is following trends set by Universal rather then being the trend setter.
Disney has to pull away and go back to cultivating the Disney experience in both film and park.
@@davidfitzsimmons2451Wow… you are SOOOOO blind. Disneys biggest mistake was not accepting Harry Potter. So now they have to compete with them to make immersive one of a kind rides and lands. Disney needs more IP to compete with the experiences and lands Universal is cranking out. Would you rather go see Super Mario or would you rather go on a boat ride through the Germany Pavilion. Disney doesn’t care about what YOU want. Disney cares about what kids and families want. Immersive attractions with the characters they saw on the big screen.
@@LifeformChris Saying that Disney needs IP to compete just shows that they no longer make quality experiences and need to depend on pre-existing movie fans to get guests into their park. Kids and families would enjoy new characters and worlds created by the imagineers just as much as the ones they see in their favorite movies. Dreamfinder and Figment made such as impression on guests that people still won't stop talking about the ride decades after it was removed, and they are not based on any movie.
@@LifeformChris I'm sorry, is figment NOT making a ton of money? Kids still love haunted mansion and jungle cruise.
And Disney honestly was NEVER going to be a good fit with Harry Potter. Disney world have never put out the experience Universal did. They are different companies with different ideologies and strategies
Or at least they were, now Disney is too busy trying to be universal.
Recycling IPs is fine to a point, but Disney HAS to be continually making new IP and ideas alongside the recycles.
Someone posted a list of "OG" Disneyland attractions not based upon Disney IP. So here's a list of DL attractions opened within the first five years (1955 - 1960) that WERE based on Disney films: Mad Tea Party, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Peter Pan's Flight, Jungle Cruise (based in part on True-Life Adventure films), Snow White's Adventures, Casey Jr. Circus Train, Dumbo the Flying Elephant, Alice in Wonderland, Matterhorn Bobsleds (Inspired by "Third Man on the Mountain"), Mine Train through Nature's Wonderland (based in part on True-Life Adventure films), Sleeping Beauty Castle walk-through, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea exhibit (Tomorrowland), Mickey Mouse Club Theater.
Jeez. I mean how did Disney ever survive building original attractions w/o IPs in its parks?
You either don’t know the history or care to ignore it. Walt put in a boatload of IP into Disneyland when it opened! Did you know it’s called Sleeping Beauty Castle because the movie was about to come out that same summer and it was a way to promote it? Wow! Walt purposely put IP into the park to promote a movie!!! Imagine that!!!! Or Davy Crockett from the Disney TV series, all the IP in Fantasyland. Even the Matterhorn was based on a movie called d”Three Men on a Mountain”. Not all was IP for sure, but then that was the 1950’s when there was no cable TV, no social media, and so on. What the public wants now has changed and IP sells at Disney, Universal, and every other theme park that can grab onto it!
@@FunAtDisneytoo bad their modern IP sucks and they lack the imagineering talent and the financial interest to do anything that’d be decent. They will become increasingly culturally irrelevant as they penny pinch the only things people love about the Disney company to dump into money pits no one wants. Why are you licking their shoes, they don’t care about you
People forget when EPCOT was built all the attractions had sponsors and that’s how it was built. If you want original ideas then you have to have a sponsor come along and support that idea.
@@kevincaywood You are correct. But if you recall there was this struggle between Imagineers John Hench and Marilyn Sklar about having or not having any characters (or “IP”) in Epcot. I forget who wanted not having them but they won out, which proved to be a huge mistake. I was there on opening day and my friend and I (both about 25 at the time) LOVED EPCOT wholeheartedly! But we would often overhear other guests asking where are the characters and that this didn’t seem like a Disney place. So within a year the characters were brought in. My point is even back then people wanted to see what is familiar.
@@kevincaywood i wonder how they can get a sponsor in that case then.
It's not just Disney, Universal's attractions are based on IP as well.
Universal was always built with a "Ride the Movies" design philosophy. They do that very well, but Disney shouldn't be copying them because their parks were built with a different mindset.
@@happyhauntzz You are misunderstanding my point. Universal does not have the same legacy of non-ip attractions as Disney. All I can think of is Lost Continent, but that never became as iconic as something like Haunted Mansion. There is a reason why I prefer Disney over Universal, and that is because Disney tried to be more than "Ride the Movies." I would love Universal to build non-IP attractions, but I can't yell at them for not doing so since they have barely showed an interest in that.
And when I mean copying, I meant the obsession with IP-lands. Aside from Cars Land (which started off as a non-IP land), Disney didn't fully commit to IP lands until Universal started getting attention because of them.
@@fredlopez5213 I guess that is mostly true, but when Disneyland opened, Fantasyland was IP related, and characters roamed the parks. Same with Magic Kingdom. IP sells merchandise, that's the bottom line.
@@Charles_Stanley13 Thats true, but Fantasyland was really the only land whose theme was to experience the worlds of the movies (whereas the theme of every land and park built at Universal is "ride the movies"). IP does have a place in the parks, but Disney was built to be more than a place to meet your favorite movie characters. Merch sales may be important to the executives. but they shouldn't lower the standards of the Disney Parks and quiet the original stories the imagineers want to tell that can only be told in this unique storytelling medium.
Bob Iger should be thrown out of this company. He’s clueless.
Its been nearly 15 years since a original non IP ride in the USA parks (Expedition Everest) since then everything new has been IP.
This is NOTHING new for the company since the Bobs took over from Eisner. (Everest was in the works before the bobs) Eisner may have not had a perfect batting average but he at least took chances and had a more creative bone in his body than both Bobs.
Even that isn’t that original. It’s like the Matterhorn at Disneyland in a way.
Meanwhile universal is opening 2 non IP based attractions next year
If all new attractions will be based on existing IP, and all new movies going forward will also be based on existing IP, then that is the death of creativity within the company. No new innovation, just rehashing more of the same.
They can do IP, but need to push some OG rides too, so everyone can have a piece of disney world
Nice job Eric.. doing great filling in.
I just see this as laziness! It takes way more effort to come up with original ideas than to just pull from a popular movie. Let imagineers imagine!!
FIRE BOB LIGER!!! I can’t wait for the future Spaceship re-theme to the film masterpiece and box office smash “Wish” because of derp IP 😂🤮
I hate that Disney uses only movies for their rides now. Disney stole Universal Studios original theme park tagline of ride the movies. That's all Disney is anymore. It doesn't even make sense to have a studio theme park on Walt Disney property when the entirety of Disney property is just one big studio Park now. They are putting themselves in this situation now where they are going to have to continue to create sequels for all of these movies because now they're going to have outdated rides based on movies that don't exist anymore. Instead of creating original attraction ideas that can withstand the test of time all on their own without having to spend extra money by creating SQL movies to them. I hate what Disney is doing now. Bob Iger makes me just as irritated as Bob chapek at this point. 🤷
8:35 💯 agree. Studio IP plus some original IP like S.E.A would be greatly appreciated.
Sometimes a non-IP works. I really think Mystic Manor should be built in other resorts.
Just in case D23 no longer exists for the foreseeable future, Universal CAN have their own convention that primarily focuses on a mixture of IPs, horror nights, theme park enhancements (additions), upcoming movies and TV & so many more!
I don’t understand. Your most popular attraction that made you what are today are almost non-ip. The most popular character in all of the Disney resorts is original. The most beloved attractions are original. So I don’t understand why you are going to throw in I-P that eventually will not withstand the test of time and you guys always say “we want this to be timeless” yet it won’t. You ruined what Epcot and Hollywood studios were with this thinking. You are holding the brilliant imagineers tight and won’t let them do their jobs. look as long as IP fits into the story of the park then that’s fine but not every IP is going to fit in every park and sometimes you just gotta do some thinking. This might work now but it won’t work later.
Backside of water! 🤣
How does Iger know that IP resonates with guests more if he has never greenlit a major non-IP project? All I can think of are the IP rethemes of non-IP rides he oversaw, but most of those rides were either originally nothing special (like California Screamin') or the retheme was generally well-made (like Mission Breakout). The IP had nothing to do with it. I think he just wants to copy Universal's success rather than build "Disney" parks (Disney Adventure World even feels like an Epic Universe knock-off).
Glad to see so many are not liking the "nearly all IP" announcement. I don't understand why, almost seems like they think the only way to successfully progress in the future is through character or studio IP as you say. Maybe it does deliver the desired dollars up front, but not sure it can deliver what should be the most important thing, which is guest experience. I really don't think they care about what people think. Or they seem to be going out of their way to make it clear. Sure, I'm a bit older, maybe I don't get it. In my opinion, the best rides at MK were mostly non-IP based, and for the most part, is what made Walt Disney World a great experience. I'm not, nor have I ever been interested in all the IP, even as a kid. Nothing wrong with creating the IP from the attraction either. Overall just seems like such a strange thing to announce, especially since that's all that's been going on for the most part anyway. I want to see some of what made the magic, original recipe style. I still can't get over Maelstrom.
Wasn't Everest the last original IP we got? It's a real shame.
Please tell me that SEA and Jules Verne are still possible and fall under the IP banner
Anyone else a little nervous about the fact there's no footage of what's replacing the dragon scene at Fantasmic? $100 says they're just doing the B Show with just the Malificent tower and nothing new.
Original works from W.D.I. are intellectual property.
What you mean to say is "pre-existing intellectual property."
In other words, Iger is so unsure of himself that he will only allow Imagineering to create derivative works.
If Iger showed any, you know, *imagination*, he’d endorse original IP that could be just as successful as Orange Bird and Figment. Encanto is the only successful studio film that can carry IP merch in the parks since Frozen, which was 2013.
How dull! The IP choices I mean
I had been going to WDW since I was 2. Personally, I think they're at their best when they MIX original and pre-existing IP.
Just fisting IP into everything feels dull.
My question… when is the US parks getting rides like in Tokyo or Shanghai ??? It’s an insult not having them here !!!
Yeah, not happy to hear Disney is going this way. Some of the best rides Disney made were NOT based on IP.
Imagine a future in which Iger never existed. Disney would be thriving for the right reasons.
This is why we need a group of creative, unapologetic and brave billionaires to buy the Walt Disney Company and rescue it from these bean counters who never had a creative and imaginative cell in their bodies.
These billionaires would only keep the Parks, the Movie Studio, Pixar and Disney+. Sell off everything else. Then with all that money they can concentrate on the creative and imaginative.
Yes, keep Lucas Films and Marvel, but ESPN, ABC and the rest need to go.
I LOVE DISNEY NON-IP RIDES 😭😭😭😭
Disney media IP is supposed to be a bit of ‘spice’ in the parks, not the entire experience. How many years has it been since each debuted a truly original major attraction without a blockbuster movie, character, or brand as its reason for being? Most of the park additions seem to have been strongly tied to the movies, instead of rides like Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Big Thunder I understand absolutely that it is essential that Disney Parks grow and change and incorporate new intellectual properties (so long as they pass the Timeless Test and respect the park’s identity, we hope); on the other, though, Disney Parks are not mere showcases for modern blockbusters. Disney parks are not museums, but they are historic places. Generations of tradition lie within every square foot of the parks, so the decision to insert intellectual property has to be made carefully, and with balance like Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure, Rise of the Resistance, etc. To be honest unless Bob Iger rand the Disney Co. changes their mind I really don't think we will see a North American Disney take on a ride not based on an IP ever again like like Mystic Manor. Just my guess thought.the imagineers at the parks are supposed to be generating new, fresh ideas and IP such as Figment, Soarin’, Mission Space, Haunted Mansion, Rockin’ Roller Coaster, etc. without being just rehash of movies and shows.
Their futur park with popular IP will fail. Splash mountain will never get old. Their park should've been like in the 1990s.
Sad. I started with Disney in 2000 and it has progressively gotten dumbed down. Walt would be disappointed by the corporate-ization is twisting his dream.
As I've said for years, Iger and this management team have run off all the good people EVERYWHERE, but especially at WDI. The ones that had original ideas have been run off or left. They can't think original about ANYTHING, not the rides or the hotels. The hotels now look like a bad Marriott or Sheraton and there will NEVER be another Pirates, Tiki Room, Matterhorn, Small World, Big Thunder, Everest or the MANY other popular attractions in both domestic parks or any other with the exception of Japan. OLC is the ONLY place or hope for any originality left for anything Disney. Iger is too stupid in some ways to have said anything else. He trashed the most popular single ride in the world to replace it with something NOBODY asked for.
The parks are full of successful non-IP things, from Figment to Orange Bird to almost all of Animal Kingdom and EPCOT. But those things required original thinking and true talent, which the current staff/management doesn't have anymore!
Roflmao the decking should help prevent us from falling on our “backsides” of water 💦 love it Eric
we haven't been to WDW since last March- are park reservations still required? yikes
It’s going to backfire, and ALL the Disney parks in both the US and France, will “lose” visitors!
Figment not being IP but that's not technically accurate, a Figment film is in production so it will be IP soon. I doubt Figment is going anywhere and I would even bank on him having a big place in the parks future even if the film doesn't kill it in the box office.
Petition: Fire Bob Iger as the Disney CEO
I'd love to see the Imagineers make him walk the plank at Pirates of the Caribbean. I know this company has seen some rough patches before, but this guy is unbelievable.
This made me chuckle
OK we will do that! Your petition will certainly be the start of that! 9-10 votes should do it.
@@FunAtDisney The Fun will never End. 2D Animation will Return, and a New CEO will Hopefully Fix the Problems.
He will be gone by 2026
Honestly, I'm glad I decided to not become a DVC member. The hotels look underwhelming basic and clash with already established properties and now focusing only on studio IPs is a huge swing and miss. Test Track was amazing before it was Tronafied and do I even need to point out how many people have been on the Haunted Mansion rides versus how many have seen either movie?
But the Disney movies these days are based on park IP! It’s gotten so bad with a drought of new creativity that they keep making live action remakes of animated IP.
What do you get when Disney, being unaccustomed to originality and creativity, tries these days? Strange World! And the most recent movie is a wink and nod to old IP and my “wish” came true in that we didn’t bother going to see it. Disney needs to try brainstorming assuming anyone with a brain is left there.
Thank God somebody else was in charge back when they were creating the fourth gate of Animal Kingdom!
that no show policy could add stress to the holders. it is another thing that people need to monitor and think about.
If Disney continues to cram and retheme princess IP into everything they will forever lose the boy market to Universal who have much hipper and more current IP eg Mario, HP, dragons, monsters etc
I don’t hate this, but this also very sadly makes sense… Disney could have prevented this new standard that both they and Universal Studios have to live up to, but they didn’t. And that’s a mistake, because when you compare the IPs that Universal has to work with as opposed to Disney… Universal wins that battle…
We are all SO jealous of Tom!
Eric Morton! 🙌
Well that’s the death knell for the parks, I gave up on these parks over the last couple years. IP based rides make no sense because they get dated quickly. These guys are really disappointing. At this point I should just build my own park. Because that’s the only way I’m going to get to experience something neat.
Iger is chasing IP Powerhouse, Universal Studios. He lacks the creative vision for Disney Parks imagineering. Very disappointing.
does anyone know if I want to purchase the state89 replay, if I need to buy each session seperatly? which would be 19.89 a session.
It's sad Disney won't buy electric buses! It will save money!
For me the rides with original characters are secondary. Pirates, HM, Journey, they’re great, but…
My favorite rides at WDW deal with the human experience. Look, even Mission: Space was special, despite replacing Horizons. They literally tried to recreate the wonder of spaceflight and impressed NASA astronauts. Horizons itself was inspirational. Kilimanjaro Safaris and Everest are both exciting rides but at the same time present other cultures and parts of the world in detail. Pirates and HM are both great, but Flight to the Moon and Jungle Cruise were forefathers to some of the most special attractions at Disney Parks. And it’s not really edutainment so much as an art piece allowing you to *experience* that part of humanity/history/etc through an entertaining but inspirational lens.
Bring back inspirational storytelling please. Thanks.
I'm kinda confused. Wasn't one of Walts major ideas that he wanted to do was bring his animation to life in the parks? I think it's ok. I do think they should do great ideas whether based on ip or not but it was one of his CORE ideas.
I don't think the villain here is Iger; it's Wall Street. Disney like all public companies is under pressure to produce growth quarter after quarter, and clinging to movie IP is the safest way to do that.
The Disney of the 1960's, or even the Eisner era, was not under the same degree of pressure. They could try new things because investors were more tolerant.
Okay, so Disney just HAD to get rid of all that upsetting "Song of the South" stuff, but was there a need to change the name from Splash Mountain?
The attraction will ALWAYS be "Splash Mountain" to me.
Horrible… Disney’s IP obsession is such a turn off…
Oh no thy Disney thyyyyy
They have to compete with Universal and Universal Studios is all about IP GALORE!
Walt Disney based the Pirates of the Caribbean theme park ride on pirate folklore, novels, and legends, including Treasure Island (1883) by Robert Louis Stevenson
@user-li2yv5je5e Really? Name them! And then compare that % to ones that are IP. Nearly all of Epic Universe is IP.
Song Of The South is full of IP potential..I wonder what ride Disney can make from that? Creative bankruptcy at its finest! Bob Ego is running what is left of this company into the ground!
The only difference between iger and chapek's reigns at this point is just the speed in how bad it got. Chapek crashed and burned quick while iger's been slowly burning away even before he returned.
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IP?
Intellectual Property. Things like Pixar films, Disney animated films/live action, etc.
how dumb is Iger? oi...
I don’t understand all the hate for Iger. He was retired and came out of retirement to try and save Disney that was already going down for the third time. He has a thankless job and could walk away tomorrow. Nobody should expect immediate recovery. Change is painful for all of us sideline quarterbacks because we all feel he should do this or that because that is what we feel should be done. He isn’t the guy that made the call to kill splash mountain, a move that most of us feel was just plain stupid. He didn’t make the decisions that are effecting the parks now, but he is expected to lower the price of tickets, give us all free food and drink, provide free parking, open new rides every few months, eliminate waiting times, put out great movies every month and pay all the cast members 100 grand a year to name a few on our collective wish list. Keeping Disney profitable is a dirty job. I hope he succeeds because I want my great grandkids to be able to enjoy a great Disney experience.
Yes I agree. People loved than hated Eisner, same with Iger. It is typical of people who do not understand how corporations work. Were mistakes and missteps made by both? Of course there was, but overall the pluses majorly outweighed the minus.
@user-li2yv5je5e exactly. And he spent *far* too much on the Fox acquisition, not to mention letting Star Wars become a very hollow shell of what it used to be. The live action remakes have mostly been hot garbage, the parks are dirty and the over-reliance on mobile apps sucks, the hotels are becoming typical generic boxes (RIP classic Polynesian), he keeps trying to shove Disney+ on to people. I can't honestly think of a single thing Iger has done that we the audience have benefited from.
@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 And there it is…. right out of the moronic comment playbook! I can’t come up with anything original to say so let’s throw in the Fox thing. Nice! By the way, are you running a multi-billion dollar company???
@@FunAtDisneyhey leave her alone! She was just saying her opinion. And honestly, I can agree with them because what Disney is doing right now is not helping the company. Either way, they’re losing what makes them loved in the first place.
@@celestiadrools9551 Because it was the same misguided comment. Yes, Fox cost billions for sure. But it is already paying off. And if you know anything about corporations you would know they have to have a 10, 20, and 30 year plan for the investors (SEC rules!) Fox is certainly a long term planned investment. So when I see comments like that it show the ignorance of not knowing how corporations long-term investments and outlooks work. So I firmly stand by what I said. And I say the same of yours “what Disney is doing RIGHT NOW in not helping the company” That is short-sighted. Oh and by the way, that was said of Walt when he was building Disneyland and it took a few years to turn a profit from that endeavor. Gee, I wonder how that turned out ??????? (And by the way, similar comments were made about Steve Jobs and Apple over this new fangled phone they brought out “why is a computer company getting into the phone business?”)
But everyone is praising Fantasy Springs and Epic Universe. Those are NOTHING but IPs
@user-li2yv5je5e One ride does not absolve an entire park of not being "all IP". Epcot, AK, and MK have more non-IP based attractions than Epic. The point is that is the future and if you complain Disney is doing it too much, you have to complain Universal is doing it too much as well.
@user-li2yv5je5e You're a insulting little troll. Never mind. Discussion over.
Not surprised in the slightest. This country isn’t a country, it’s a business. And anything spawned from this business will keep that philosophy.
The Venn Diagram of people that think Universals Epic Universe is a Disney killer and of people that think IP in Disney parks is a fireable offense is a circle. Never change, DisTwits. 😂🤡🤡🤡
Disney freaks are so funny. First they complain when things aren’t built or built at a fast pace. Then they complain when Disney announces projects based on IP. Disney people sure do love to complain a lot. But guess what if they don’t like it there’s a certain epic universe they can visit…