Here’s my scenario if the Patriots beat the Rams on that play: -The Packers do make the playoffs. However, Joe Montana is still MVP that year, Don Majkowski and the Packers lose in the Wild Card round in Philadelphia, and Brett Favre is still acquired to eventually replace Majkowski. The only difference for Majkowski’s career is he gets a playoff appearance on his resume. -Philadelphia’s win possibly spares Buddy Ryan from being fired the next year. Philly still loses to San Francisco in the divisional round, but they put a beating on the 49ers in the process. -The Vikings play at the Giants in the other divisional round game, with Herschel Walker returning to the site of his USFL glory. Honestly the game could go either way, but I have the Giants winning. -The Giants then play the Niners in the NFC Championship Game. The Giants almost always played the Niners tough under Bill Parcells, including beating the Niners in the 1990 NFC Championship Game. The Giants get their championship a year early, beating a Niners team still licking their wounds from the Eagles game. -The Super Bowl is then a rematch of SB21 (about which you made two videos) between the Giants and Broncos. The Giants are still trying to get back up to the level they were at three years earlier, while the Broncos have an improved, more physical defense under Wade Phillips. The Broncos get “One for John” eight years before Elway actually wins his first Super Bowl. -Parcells decides to leave the Giants after the Super Bowl. His replacement...wait for it...Bill Belichick. Maybe Patriots fans should be grateful Grogan did not connect with Dykes that day. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a Merry Christmas.
It didn't matter to New England anyway. One: Patriot head coach Raymond Berry was going to be fired after this game. Two: Many older players were either released, or retired from the 85 SB run they had. Three: PATS organization was stuck with a new bad owner, a new head coach that no one respected, and led to one of the worst regular seasons in nfl history the following year.
I agree, however…… In the wild card game, Cunningham struggled for Philadelphia against the Rams. And I feel, even against that defense, Green Bay May have won that game too. Against the Giants……. It’s a toss-up. Against San Fran…………………………… let’s just say it’ll still be a blowout, but the Packers would’ve scored more points then the Rams
These are the Patriot teams that I grew up with. The first 15 years or so that I watched them they were terrible. 1986 and 1996 the lost the Super Bowl but other than those 2 season I only really remember watching “5-11” type Patriot teams. This new generation only knows the Patriots with Brady and Belicheck, which is great for them, but older Pats fans like myself remember what it was like when the Patriots were irrelevant
.... and with Brady gone, Belichick and Craft getting older and the team about to go on an extended decades long run of not winning or, getting to, a super bowl, we're about to witness the front running Patriots fans duplicate that weak ass Xmas eve crowd on a weekly basis. Back to the way it was before Belichick & Brady, when they couldn't even sell out a playoff game.
The poor attendance was also because it was the coldest day throughout the entire NFL. All of the games east of the Mississippi were under 40 degrees, including Miami & Tampa, and 17 in Atlanta.
The low temperature that morning in Dallas was below zero which didn't happen there again until February 2021. Several water pipes at the old Texas Stadium burst due to the extreme cold and it was just a miserable day for the Packers-Cowboys game.
IDK this theory seems a little thin... and by a "little" i mean a lot thin. Things like this happen every season, every game if you really consider it. How many teams would have been in post season if they just made a kick in week 4. Its the NFL, this happens all the time.
Yeah I was sticking around for some bombshell or controversial call or... something. Instead it's just "shitty team dropped pass to end game" I don't think Green Bay making the playoffs would have made their guy be MVP over Montana either lol
You only have to be in your late thirties to remember a time when New England was a complete joke. The 1993 offseason was the beginning of that changing.
I'm close to turning 40 as I type this and I certainly remember those days. I later found out that they nearly left New England twice during that period. Robert Kraft is the only reason why the Patriots stayed put.
Majkowski was a one-year wonder. Anyone who was actually old enough to remember 1989 knows this. Even if Grogan completes that pass, it's a pretty big leap to suggest that the Packers never trade for Favre.
Unless he took Green Bay on a memorable playoff run in 1989, it probably would’ve never happened with them trading for Farve. Cause by 1991 Green Bay has still collapsed to being a 4-12 team, and Majkowski had really fallen apart.
Agreed. They were finished with Majkowski by early to mid 1991. That’s why the new regime traded for Favre. And if the Packers made the 1989 playoffs they’d have been bounced the first weekend. Even if they’d played in the divisional round they’d been crushed.
Sterling was a God. He might be the only receiver who had a legitimate claim to being as good as Jerry Rice in that era. He had it all, Shannon Sharpe said he himself is the only NFL HOFer who isn't the best football player in his family.
I remember watching that game where the Vikings beat the Rams in overtime. Rich Karlis scored all 21 of Minnesota's points on field goals that day until the safety.
I agree that Green Bay would have not traded for Favre when they did, if at all. So in a way, I'm glad my Packers missed the playoffs that year - now we've had almost three decades of Hall Of Fame QB's under Center and a top notch venue to watch football at. Thanks to one player on the Patriots dropping the ball while being out of bounds in 1989!
The Rams had to travel East for three straight weeks. At NE on Christmas Eve, at Philadelphia on NYE and at The NYG the following week. They finally ran out of gas in San Francisco. The three best teams in The NFL in 89 were The 49ers, Rams and Giants. This was also the season where three of four teams in The AFC Central made the playoffs. The Cincinnati Bengals despite having a 5-1 division record didn't make, while The Pittsburgh Steelers with a 1-5 division record made it in.
Rams also went to the NFC title game that year beating my Giants in the divisional round. They were a bad pass away from missing the playoffs yet were 1 game away from making the super bowl.
That same year was the instant replay game in which upon further review gave the Packers the victory over the Bear at Lambeau. The play was whether Majewski was over the line scrimmage when he threw the TD pass. He was originally called over. The call was overturned giving the Packers the V.
You could do a story about Hart Lee Dykes. All the talent in the world, he could have been just like Randy Moss. But, injuries and off field issues ruined his career.
Played with Mike Gundy and Barry Sanders at Oklahoma State as well. Lots to unpack in his recruitment too. His story would definitely make for a great video.
I learned about the Irving Fryar Hail Mary through the NFL Films "Fantastic Finishes" episode. Wow, I didn't know how close the Rams were to doomsday here, or the interesting scenarios that could've happened IF that pass from Grogan to Hart Lee Dykes were caught (also, maybe the Rams don't collapse after this season due to not qualifying for the playoffs; maybe they reload and recover nicely from coming up short after a 5-0 start in '89).
Those games were brutal to watch. We found new and innovative ways to lose games every friggin week. Every Sunday night I was on suicide watch till Wednesday.
1. There’s no way Montana wouldn’t have been MVP that season. He lead the NFL in rating, yards per game, yards per attempt, completion percentage, and touchdown percentage. He was the quarterback of the best team with the best offense in the league. 2. The Packers were still 10-22 over the next 2 seasons so I don’t see how being a wildcard team in 1989 would’ve effected their decision to trade for Favre.
Montana had 26-8 TD/INT compared to Don Majik's 27-20. Montana had a 112 vs 82 QB rating. Joe's QB season was peak Montana and the finest QB season to that point.
I doubt this changes anything for the Packers. Majkowski still had 2 pretty rough years after this, so the Packers still need a QB and would trade for Favre.
@JBSptfn The Packers still wouldn't have drafted until 18, that pick they got from the Browns whose position would not have changed. The Cowboys still had pick 17, which they used on Smith. What would have changed would be the Packer's #19 would have dropped back a couple slots and they would have missed out on RB Darrell Thompson (no big loss.) Assuming they still wanted a running back the next few off the board weren't anything special, but Rodney Hampton was the best of the bunch and would have been an upgrade from Thompson.
Was there not a game (Jets v Seattle?) Where a TD was awarded when one was not scored. I think Pete carrol lost his HC job in NY. The ramifications in playoff position and draft position and head coaches losing their jobs rippled throughout the league. My memory made be faulty here but please look it up.
You should probably do one from the 2007 season playoffs on what happens if Romo throws a TD instead of an interception against the Giants. That might have been Eli Manning's last game as a starter. Remember, going into 2007, Eli was not good (never really was, but that's another video), and was actually being booed. I personally feel that if the more likely result (a TD) happened instead of the less likely result happened that Eli probably would have been replaced in the off season.
@Tom Knapp That one is good. Also, he should do one about 2011 Week 14, when Romo missed a wide open Miles Austin on a play that would have cinched a win for Dallas against the Giants (and would have led to the Giants missing the playoffs and not winning the SB). That could have had huge ramifications.
I remember a penalty call that helped the Cowboys stay alive to get to a Superbowl. The Cowboys were playing the Giants in the second to last game of the season, and had to win for the number 1 seed. The Giants were down by 1 late in the game, and driving toward a game sealing touchdown. The Giants were running the ball down the Cowboys throats, and as they got close to the end zone, the refs called a holding call against the Giants which forced them to kick a field goal. The Cowboys got the ball back down by 2 and won with a field goal. That holding call saved the Cowboys season, and they most likely would have never made the Superbowl if it were not for that holding call...
To be fair to him, the number of injuries he sustained over the course of his career would've ended most other QBs much sooner. Just the fact that he was able to be on the field after all of that was astounding.
The Los Angeles Rams should have been KICKED OUT of the NFL for losing to the 1989 New England Patriots. THAT PATRIOT team COULDN'T EVEN beat today's women's U.S. soccer team. (Niether team would SCORE because they BOTH SUCK). STILL though this video is WAY BETTER than SPIKING the BALL into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play.
Ron Wolf said he was going to draft Favre when he was still with the Jets in 1991, but had the pick after Atlanta. Plus Green Bay had that extra first round pick from Tom Braatz trade so had something to spare that 1992 draft.
As an avid Ram fan I remember kneeling in a bar and letting out a large shriek of relief on that last play. This may not have been important if Kevin Green hadn't previously made one of the greatest defensive plays ever in a crucial game against the Saints. As for long term ramifications (pardon the pun), the Majik man may have won the MVP that year, but I'm pretty sure it was an injury that paved the way for Favre. I also think the 49ers would have beaten anyone in their way that year, but I'll bet Giant fans have bad memories of Flipper Anderson in OT.
The Majik Man tore his rotator cuff in the 1990 season during a game against the Cardinals, and he was never quite the same after that. I'm sure Ron Wolf was considering that when he traded for Favre. The Packers did beat the 49ers during the 1989 season though, so it's interesting to wonder what would have happened in a playoff rematch.
It should also be noted that most of the country including Florida had record cold temps that day. I remember watching the Steelers play in Tampa and players were dressed for Pittsburgh weather
I think the trade for Brett Favre still would have happened: 1. The 1989 Packers were fundamentally a 7- or 8-win squad that overachieved. While he was a swell guy and a breath of fresh air after Forrest Gregg, Lindy Infante was not a great head coach. Even if Green Bay makes the playoffs, they get exposed and bounced in the wildcard (or divisional) round. 2. If Majkowski is ‘89 MVP, he holds out for an even bigger contract than the one he actually did hold out for in 1990, when he missed all of training camp, all of preseason, and didn’t get onto the field until Week 2 when he came off the bench against a resurgent Bears defense (with predictable results). Such a holdout would likely extend even further into the season, and it’s unlikely that Anthony Dilweg wins more than a game or two during his protracted absence. Majik gets his mojo back down the stretch-assuming the rotator cuff injury doesn’t happen-but the season is already out of hand and Green Bay still finishes only 7-9 or 8-8 (and even if 8-8 is good enough to steal the last NFC wildcard seed from the Saints, the Packers aren’t beating the Bears). 3. Even if Majkowski stays healthy in ‘90 and ‘91, and even if he plays well, Tom Braatz is still Director of Football Operations (essentially GM), which means the team is still plagued by holdouts, unsigned players, contract issues, and poor drafting. And Lindy Infante is still head coach, which means the offense is one-dimensional and inefficient. The combination of the two-contributing to (among other things) offensive line play that is hamstrung by youth, injuries, and constant blitzing-means the Packers still lose a lot of games. 4. Because of 3., Tom Braatz gets fired. Ron Wolf is likely still hired as GM, likely under the same or similar circumstances and terms he actually was. (Infante, with a sub-.500 win percentage in four seasons, is obviously out as head coach.) 5. Wolf had always coveted Brett Favre, going back to his time with the Jets (who infamously drafted Browning Nagle instead). However well Majkowski was playing, Favre was always going to be his guy no matter what. (Consider that, to date, in our timeline, Majkowski was a Pro Bowler, 2nd-team All Pro, and former MVP runner-up; Favre was 0/4 with 2 INTs and a bad drinking habit). Majik would have to have been playing HOF-caliber ball for Wolf to even consider changing his mind.
I was so bummed the Packers missed the playoffs. I remember seeing the Patriots go ahead, and I remember hearing the news the Patriots were driving once the Rams scored. The Vikings game was a bummer, too--Cincinnatti came back from 22-0 to make it 22-21. I was convinced if the Packers had made it, they wouldn't have regressed in '90 and '91. (Spoiler alert: I was wrong! I was being a fan.) But it turned out to work out pretty well in the end.
If you google the 1989 NFL season, and look at the final League standings, you'll see that the Packers are listed as being first place in their division. Which is odd, because we all know the Vikings won the division that year. Or did they? The Vikings were awarded first place, because they beat the Buccaneers twice, and the Packers lost to the Buccaneers once. This gave the Vikings a better division record (6-2) than the Packers (5-3). But if you took the Buccaneers out of the division (the Buccaneers currently play in the NFC South), the Vikings and Packers would have had identical division records, and the Packers would have been awarded first place by virtue of a better in-Conference record (6-2 vs. the Vikings 4-2). Of course, the League was organized differently in 1989, and schedules weren't as fair back then. But if we want to play some revisionist history here, we don't even need to point at any particular play or game. We could retroactively award the Packers the division championship based on their better Conference record than the Vikings.
Also I notice you highlighted a game featuring one of the three AFC teams eliminated from playoff contention going into the week (along with the Jets and Chargers).
In 2011 the TB Buccaneers were playing the Detroit Lions. Late in the game Josh Freeman throws a game winning touchdown pass to Kellen Winslow. They reviewed it, and somehow decided to overturn the call, though there was clear confirmation of the catch. TD disallowed, Bucs lose and miss the playoffs because of this. The team that went in the Bucs' place: the eventual Superbowl champion Green Bay Packers.
@@dallasbrubaker6054 the Superbowl itself was in early 2011, because the year flips before the Superbowl every year. The Lions/Bucs game was most likely in late 2010, leading up to the 2011 Superbowl. Anyone who watches the sport most certainly knows this already.
@@charleebrown7188 I know when the Super Bowl is, but some people go by the actual date of the Super Bowl and call it by that. Others go by the NFL season. For instance Tampa Bay won the 2020 season Super Bowl which was played in the 2021 calendar year. Technically it is the 2020 Super Bowl since it came after that season.
Idk about this one. First of all, there was no guarantee (to be fair, you didn't guarantee it) that Majkowski would have won MVP even if the Packers made the playoffs. Aside from attempts, completions, and total yards, Montana had better numbers with win-loss record, completion percentage, TDs, INts, yards per game, and QB rating. Montana's 89-90 post-season was also by far his best. Second, the 89 season still probably would have been a fluke in Majkowski's career, as it would not have stopped him from nose-diving in 90 and 91
This play doesn't warrant the claim in the title! Espescially when you consider that in 1989 there were 10 out of 13 teams remaining in the AFC (Denver had already locked up a birth and only 14 teams in AFC then) that were battling for the final four playoff spots. Only 3 AFC teams had no shot on the final weekend of games. I haven't watched all those games but I guarantee you there were plenty of single plays that had just as big if not bigger ramifications than the play in the video. There were 3 close down to the wire afc games in week 16. The Oilers-Browns game alone changed the entire complexion of the final standings of the AFC Central in which all 4 teams had a shot at a playoff spot. Kevin Macks TD with 39 seconds to go in that game was 100 times more impactful that the Patriots dropped pass. It changed numerous playoff seedings and ousted several teams from the post season, including my Pittsburgh Steelers. As for the MVP winner. Don Majkowski had no shot at winning even if he did make the playoffs...the race wasn't even close. At the end of the regular season there wasn't even a debate, it was a lock Montana would be named MVP by both the AP and PFWA. I think the AP gave Montana 62 votes and the Magic Man just 6. Montana and his numbers were a lock. He was 11-2, had a cometion percentage of 70.2, threw 26 TDs to 8INTs and had a ridiculous passer rating of 112.4. Majkowskis numbers: 10-6 58.9 completion percentage, 27 TDs to 20 INTs and an 82.3 passer rating. I remember this football season very vividly as it was in the middle of my massive obsession as a kid with football and the NFL. Of course this is just my opinion and we are all entitled to our own but I will have to strongly disagree with the claim of this play being called "the play that changed the entire season" when there were others that are far more deserving.
The Steelers made the playoffs in '89. The win by the Browns on the final Saturday set up a scenario where the Steelers only shot at the final wild card spot required them to win in Tampa Bay, as well as requiring 3 additional AFC teams to lose as well. Indianapolis had to lose @NO. The Raiders had to lose @NYG, and the Bengals had to lose @Min on Monday night. That was their only shot. NO blew out Indy. The NYG handled the Raiders as well thanks in part to a Dave Meggett punt return TD, so it all came down to Monday night. The Vikings dominated Cincy in the 1st half but had to settle for 5 FGs and a 15-0 lead. Cincy answered early in the 2nd half with a TD and added a FG and the game became a nail biter until the Vikings put it away late in the 4th quarter with a TD pass. I still remember ABC had a TV camera in the home of Dwayne Woodruff or Keith Willis and they cut to it on the clinching TD pass by the Vikes. That put the Steelers in the playoffs, despite them losing their first two games of the season by a combined score of 92-10. They would go on to beat the Oilers in the Wild Card game in OT and came within an eyelash of upsetting the #1 seeded Broncos at Denver the following week. That remains one of Chuck Noll's best head coaching jobs ever.
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Could be so, but it happened because it was a washed-up old quarterback throwing to a rookie wideout, both on a bad team. Things like that happen for good reasons. Better "what if?" scenarios are ones involving good teams and players who don't make plays, like what if Jackie Smith hadn't dropped that pass in the third quarter of Super Bowl XIII? Dallas could have won that game, and then they, and not the Steelers, are the team of the 1970s. The perceptions of many of the players on those teams changes on that one outcome. (for all I know, you may have done that one, but if so, I haven't seen it.)
Nah, Montana played 13 games and had 1 touchdown less than Don who played in 16 and despite that, Joe had a much better td to int ratio with 26-7 while Don had a horrible ratio with 27-20. Plus Montana legit won in a landslide in voting. Also, of the 10 QBs that lead the league in touchdowns, Montana lead those 10 in Rating, Touchdown Percentage, Interception Percentage, Rating, and tied for most wins with 11. Montana was really the only QB that had could have won MVP.
Montana obliterated the QB passer rating with 112.4. Joe was the best QB ever that season on the best team ever in 1989. Montana went berzerk in the playoffs after that.
First I'll comment that you make some damn good content... I've always wondered why some shows (youtube and reg tv) use multiple songs throughout a segment even if just 5-8 minutes long... And you did change the song after showing the play, but that jingle jangle used throughout the beginning and middle almost gave me a twitch/panic attack
Whether or not the Packers made the playoffs in 89, Majik got hurt in 90 and 91; both were poor years; then got hurt when Favre came in and led them to a win in 92. Majik played a total of 18 games in 90 and 91. He was benched in 91 after some bad games. The 92 draft had a gimmick QB, David Klinger, and Tommy Maddox who came out of college too early. So there was no help for the Packers at QB in the draft.
Ok, what I’m listening to is *not* “how one play changed the 1989 season.” What I’m listening to is how one play *could have* changed the 1989 season IF it had been better executed. But the team that won the game is the team that should have won the game and the season finished as it should have.
wow , do the Packers still trade for Brett Farve in 1992? , plus the Giants lost to the Rams two weeks later, it was a bad home overtime playoff loss. Also maybe Buddy Ryan saves his job if the Eagles beat the Packers in that Wild Card game
i honestly don’t find this that big of a deal...the favored team won the game to make the playoffs, and another team didn’t score a TD on the last play....that stuff happens alot🤷🏻♂️....i was expecting some sort of blown call that eliminated the Rams from the playoffs, and the team that made it in their place ended up winning the superbowl or something... something like that would warrant a video like this....but what actually happened was very basic 🤦🏻♂️
You should do a video on Bert Emanuel's catch in the 1999 NFCCG (Jan. 2000) that was overturned on replay and the ramifications that play had on league history.
I'm sorry but the BIGGEST WHAT IF IN NFL HISTORY is WHAT IF the NFL gave Lamar Hunt permission to buy the Chicago Cardinals OR a Dallas Expansion Team? If that happens, you don't get the AFL, so no Merger, don't get the Super Bowl, which Lamar Hunt named, future Expansion looks different & the Domino Effect list goes on & on.
totally miss the shorter term implications- if the rams aren;'t in the playoffs then 49ers play the winner of the wildcard game (which was the rams but two teams from the same division weren't allowed to play each other in the divisional round) the giants would have played the vikings instead of the rams, possibly making it to the NFC championship game as a result.
That year, I don't think it would have made much of a difference. The Giants always played the 49ers tough in that era but as good as the 49ers were in 90, they were a lot better in 89 -- especially in the playoffs. Craig was much better in 89 than he was a year later. The same could be said for much of the defense. Given how much he clowned two of the league's better defenses (Minnesota and Denver), it's also hard to imagine the Giants shutting down the 89 version of Montana the way they did a year later. I'd personally say that the 89 49ers were the best team ever. Granted, I'm a 49ers fan so take any bias that comes with that into account. But even if they weren't, I think their level of play in relation to their opposition in the postseason was better than any in NFL history. Granted, I don't think the 49ers flatten the Giants the same way they did aganist the Rams. The pass rush may apply similar pressure but Simms wouldn't get as flustered as Everett did. I think the game would be similar to the MNF game they had earlier that year, which was a hard fought and relatively high scoring 10-point win for the 49ers. But, we'll never know.
Here’s my scenario if the Patriots beat the Rams on that play:
-The Packers do make the playoffs. However, Joe Montana is still MVP that year, Don Majkowski and the Packers lose in the Wild Card round in Philadelphia, and Brett Favre is still acquired to eventually replace Majkowski. The only difference for Majkowski’s career is he gets a playoff appearance on his resume.
-Philadelphia’s win possibly spares Buddy Ryan from being fired the next year. Philly still loses to San Francisco in the divisional round, but they put a beating on the 49ers in the process.
-The Vikings play at the Giants in the other divisional round game, with Herschel Walker returning to the site of his USFL glory. Honestly the game could go either way, but I have the Giants winning.
-The Giants then play the Niners in the NFC Championship Game. The Giants almost always played the Niners tough under Bill Parcells, including beating the Niners in the 1990 NFC Championship Game. The Giants get their championship a year early, beating a Niners team still licking their wounds from the Eagles game.
-The Super Bowl is then a rematch of SB21 (about which you made two videos) between the Giants and Broncos. The Giants are still trying to get back up to the level they were at three years earlier, while the Broncos have an improved, more physical defense under Wade Phillips. The Broncos get “One for John” eight years before Elway actually wins his first Super Bowl.
-Parcells decides to leave the Giants after the Super Bowl. His replacement...wait for it...Bill Belichick. Maybe Patriots fans should be grateful Grogan did not connect with Dykes that day.
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a Merry Christmas.
It didn't matter to New England anyway. One: Patriot head coach Raymond Berry was going to be fired after this game. Two: Many older players were either released, or retired from the 85 SB run they had. Three: PATS organization was stuck with a new bad owner, a new head coach that no one respected, and led to one of the worst regular seasons in nfl history the following year.
The 89 49ers were one of the greatest teams in NFL history. I can't envision a scenario where anyone beat that team that year
@@anonymoususer450 I think Terry Bradshaw even said beforehand "This could be as bad as 55-3" and he almost nailed it
I agree, however……
In the wild card game, Cunningham struggled for Philadelphia against the Rams. And I feel, even against that defense, Green Bay May have won that game too. Against the Giants……. It’s a toss-up. Against San Fran…………………………… let’s just say it’ll still be a blowout, but the Packers would’ve scored more points then the Rams
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These are the Patriot teams that I grew up with. The first 15 years or so that I watched them they were terrible. 1986 and 1996 the lost the Super Bowl but other than those 2 season I only really remember watching “5-11” type Patriot teams. This new generation only knows the Patriots with Brady and Belicheck, which is great for them, but older Pats fans like myself remember what it was like when the Patriots were irrelevant
.... and with Brady gone, Belichick and Craft getting older and the team about to go on an extended decades long run of not winning or, getting to, a super bowl, we're about to witness the front running Patriots fans duplicate that weak ass Xmas eve crowd on a weekly basis. Back to the way it was before Belichick & Brady, when they couldn't even sell out a playoff game.
With the Boston Patriot decal on the side of the helmet, hiking a football.
The poor attendance was also because it was the coldest day throughout the entire NFL. All of the games east of the Mississippi were under 40 degrees, including Miami & Tampa, and 17 in Atlanta.
I was in Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium and it was COLD.
I was at this game with my dad. It was really, really cold.
The low temperature that morning in Dallas was below zero which didn't happen there again until February 2021. Several water pipes at the old Texas Stadium burst due to the extreme cold and it was just a miserable day for the Packers-Cowboys game.
89 was crazy season period. Other than Denver, Every AFC team in the playoffs were 9-7 (or in CLE case, 9-6-1). Parity at it's best...or worst...IDK.
IDK this theory seems a little thin... and by a "little" i mean a lot thin. Things like this happen every season, every game if you really consider it. How many teams would have been in post season if they just made a kick in week 4. Its the NFL, this happens all the time.
Yeah I was sticking around for some bombshell or controversial call or... something. Instead it's just "shitty team dropped pass to end game"
I don't think Green Bay making the playoffs would have made their guy be MVP over Montana either lol
Patriots 20, Rams 17. Don’t see that too often.
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@NO PATS JIM no they were in LA
No, not too often at all, especially concerning games that really matter.
@@Cbamuzic They were the St. Louis Rams (aka The Greatest Show On Turf). Turf, as in the turf in the dome in St. Louis.
@@ml2611 i know what the greatest show on turf was but in this game they were still in LA
You only have to be in your late thirties to remember a time when New England was a complete joke. The 1993 offseason was the beginning of that changing.
I'm close to turning 40 as I type this and I certainly remember those days. I later found out that they nearly left New England twice during that period. Robert Kraft is the only reason why the Patriots stayed put.
Majkowski was a one-year wonder. Anyone who was actually old enough to remember 1989 knows this. Even if Grogan completes that pass, it's a pretty big leap to suggest that the Packers never trade for Favre.
Unless he took Green Bay on a memorable playoff run in 1989, it probably would’ve never happened with them trading for Farve.
Cause by 1991 Green Bay has still collapsed to being a 4-12 team, and Majkowski had really fallen apart.
Agreed. They were finished with Majkowski by early to mid 1991. That’s why the new regime traded for Favre. And if the Packers made the 1989 playoffs they’d have been bounced the first weekend. Even if they’d played in the divisional round they’d been crushed.
The draft bust of Tony Mandarich probably played a bigger role as it led to changes in their front office.
If the Jets have a first round pick in '91, Ron Wolf takes Favre before Atlanta gets the chance
On a related note, I’d love to see a documentary about all the Packers QBs between Bart Starr and Brett.
Nice to see Sterling Sharpe in those Green Bay highlights!
Sterling was a God. He might be the only receiver who had a legitimate claim to being as good as Jerry Rice in that era. He had it all, Shannon Sharpe said he himself is the only NFL HOFer who isn't the best football player in his family.
I remember watching that game where the Vikings beat the Rams in overtime. Rich Karlis scored all 21 of Minnesota's points on field goals that day until the safety.
I agree that Green Bay would have not traded for Favre when they did, if at all. So in a way, I'm glad my Packers missed the playoffs that year - now we've had almost three decades of Hall Of Fame QB's under Center and a top notch venue to watch football at. Thanks to one player on the Patriots dropping the ball while being out of bounds in 1989!
The Rams had to travel East for three straight weeks. At NE on Christmas Eve, at Philadelphia on NYE and at The NYG the following week. They finally ran out of gas in San Francisco. The three best teams in The NFL in 89 were The 49ers, Rams and Giants. This was also the season where three of four teams in The AFC Central made the playoffs. The Cincinnati Bengals despite having a 5-1 division record didn't make, while The Pittsburgh Steelers with a 1-5 division record made it in.
Rams also went to the NFC title game that year beating my Giants in the divisional round. They were a bad pass away from missing the playoffs yet were 1 game away from making the super bowl.
You left out the bullshit PI call against Flipper Anderson that led to the loss.
Yah. But they had to play the 49ers. The 9ers outscored their playoff opponents by 100 points that year.
That same year was the instant replay game in which upon further review gave the Packers the victory over the Bear at Lambeau. The play was whether Majewski was over the line scrimmage when he threw the TD pass. He was originally called over. The call was overturned giving the Packers the V.
Good ole Jim ‘dont call me Chris’ Everett
You could do a story about Hart Lee Dykes. All the talent in the world, he could have been just like Randy Moss. But, injuries and off field issues ruined his career.
Haven't heard that name in30 yrs.so much promise so little production.
Played with Mike Gundy and Barry Sanders at Oklahoma State as well. Lots to unpack in his recruitment too. His story would definitely make for a great video.
Yancey Thigpen's Christmas Eve Drop- How One Play Changed the 1995 Season
Interesting and thoughtful piece of conjecture. Thanks for posting!
steve grogan should be in hall fame.
I learned about the Irving Fryar Hail Mary through the NFL Films "Fantastic Finishes" episode. Wow, I didn't know how close the Rams were to doomsday here, or the interesting scenarios that could've happened IF that pass from Grogan to Hart Lee Dykes were caught (also, maybe the Rams don't collapse after this season due to not qualifying for the playoffs; maybe they reload and recover nicely from coming up short after a 5-0 start in '89).
Those games were brutal to watch. We found new and innovative ways to lose games every friggin week. Every Sunday night I was on suicide watch till Wednesday.
"Chris Everett"--Jim Rome
1. There’s no way Montana wouldn’t have been MVP that season. He lead the NFL in rating, yards per game, yards per attempt, completion percentage, and touchdown percentage. He was the quarterback of the best team with the best offense in the league.
2. The Packers were still 10-22 over the next 2 seasons so I don’t see how being a wildcard team in 1989 would’ve effected their decision to trade for Favre.
Montana had 26-8 TD/INT compared to Don Majik's 27-20. Montana had a 112 vs 82 QB rating. Joe's QB season was peak Montana and the finest QB season to that point.
I doubt this changes anything for the Packers. Majkowski still had 2 pretty rough years after this, so the Packers still need a QB and would trade for Favre.
@JBSptfn The Packers still wouldn't have drafted until 18, that pick they got from the Browns whose position would not have changed. The Cowboys still had pick 17, which they used on Smith. What would have changed would be the Packer's #19 would have dropped back a couple slots and they would have missed out on RB Darrell Thompson (no big loss.) Assuming they still wanted a running back the next few off the board weren't anything special, but Rodney Hampton was the best of the bunch and would have been an upgrade from Thompson.
The Majik Man!
Was there not a game (Jets v Seattle?) Where a TD was awarded when one was not scored. I think Pete carrol lost his HC job in NY. The ramifications in playoff position and draft position and head coaches losing their jobs rippled throughout the league. My memory made be faulty here but please look it up.
Yes. 1998. Wound up being one of the big reasons why we had instant replay the following year
You should probably do one from the 2007 season playoffs on what happens if Romo throws a TD instead of an interception against the Giants. That might have been Eli Manning's last game as a starter. Remember, going into 2007, Eli was not good (never really was, but that's another video), and was actually being booed. I personally feel that if the more likely result (a TD) happened instead of the less likely result happened that Eli probably would have been replaced in the off season.
@Tom Knapp That one is good. Also, he should do one about 2011 Week 14, when Romo missed a wide open Miles Austin on a play that would have cinched a win for Dallas against the Giants (and would have led to the Giants missing the playoffs and not winning the SB). That could have had huge ramifications.
I remember a penalty call that helped the Cowboys stay alive to get to a Superbowl. The Cowboys were playing the Giants in the second to last game of the season, and had to win for the number 1 seed. The Giants were down by 1 late in the game, and driving toward a game sealing touchdown. The Giants were running the ball down the Cowboys throats, and as they got close to the end zone, the refs called a holding call against the Giants which forced them to kick a field goal. The Cowboys got the ball back down by 2 and won with a field goal. That holding call saved the Cowboys season, and they most likely would have never made the Superbowl if it were not for that holding call...
Grogan played 15 years with New England. That's not how to end your time there, Steve.
He ended the next year.
To be fair to him, the number of injuries he sustained over the course of his career would've ended most other QBs much sooner. Just the fact that he was able to be on the field after all of that was astounding.
The Los Angeles Rams should have been KICKED OUT of the NFL for losing to the 1989 New England Patriots. THAT PATRIOT team COULDN'T EVEN beat today's women's U.S. soccer team. (Niether team would SCORE because they BOTH SUCK). STILL though this video is WAY BETTER than SPIKING the BALL into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play.
I believe Majkowski was injured the previous year, and that was part of the impetus in the Favre trade.
Ron Wolf said he was going to draft Favre when he was still with the Jets in 1991, but had the pick after Atlanta. Plus Green Bay had that extra first round pick from Tom Braatz trade so had something to spare that 1992 draft.
What if the Packers drafted Barry Sanders instead of Tony Mandrich?
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Fuch ya. How do you miss that one. Linemen are 50/50 anyways. Barry was a slam dunk
Then they don’t get Brett Favre
Bad pass by Grogan at the end - he had plenty of room to throw his receiver away from the end line.
Probably because he threw it flat-footed.
As an avid Ram fan I remember kneeling in a bar and letting out a large shriek of relief on that last play. This may not have been important if Kevin Green hadn't previously made one of the greatest defensive plays ever in a crucial game against the Saints. As for long term ramifications (pardon the pun), the Majik man may have won the MVP that year, but I'm pretty sure it was an injury that paved the way for Favre. I also think the 49ers would have beaten anyone in their way that year, but I'll bet Giant fans have bad memories of Flipper Anderson in OT.
The Majik Man tore his rotator cuff in the 1990 season during a game against the Cardinals, and he was never quite the same after that. I'm sure Ron Wolf was considering that when he traded for Favre. The Packers did beat the 49ers during the 1989 season though, so it's interesting to wonder what would have happened in a playoff rematch.
It should also be noted that most of the country including Florida had record cold temps that day. I remember watching the Steelers play in Tampa and players were dressed for Pittsburgh weather
Great video....FYI the decade ended on 31 December 1990.
Jim Everett? You mean Chis Everett.
I think the trade for Brett Favre still would have happened:
1. The 1989 Packers were fundamentally a 7- or 8-win squad that overachieved. While he was a swell guy and a breath of fresh air after Forrest Gregg, Lindy Infante was not a great head coach. Even if Green Bay makes the playoffs, they get exposed and bounced in the wildcard (or divisional) round.
2. If Majkowski is ‘89 MVP, he holds out for an even bigger contract than the one he actually did hold out for in 1990, when he missed all of training camp, all of preseason, and didn’t get onto the field until Week 2 when he came off the bench against a resurgent Bears defense (with predictable results). Such a holdout would likely extend even further into the season, and it’s unlikely that Anthony Dilweg wins more than a game or two during his protracted absence. Majik gets his mojo back down the stretch-assuming the rotator cuff injury doesn’t happen-but the season is already out of hand and Green Bay still finishes only 7-9 or 8-8 (and even if 8-8 is good enough to steal the last NFC wildcard seed from the Saints, the Packers aren’t beating the Bears).
3. Even if Majkowski stays healthy in ‘90 and ‘91, and even if he plays well, Tom Braatz is still Director of Football Operations (essentially GM), which means the team is still plagued by holdouts, unsigned players, contract issues, and poor drafting. And Lindy Infante is still head coach, which means the offense is one-dimensional and inefficient. The combination of the two-contributing to (among other things) offensive line play that is hamstrung by youth, injuries, and constant blitzing-means the Packers still lose a lot of games.
4. Because of 3., Tom Braatz gets fired. Ron Wolf is likely still hired as GM, likely under the same or similar circumstances and terms he actually was. (Infante, with a sub-.500 win percentage in four seasons, is obviously out as head coach.)
5. Wolf had always coveted Brett Favre, going back to his time with the Jets (who infamously drafted Browning Nagle instead). However well Majkowski was playing, Favre was always going to be his guy no matter what. (Consider that, to date, in our timeline, Majkowski was a Pro Bowler, 2nd-team All Pro, and former MVP runner-up; Favre was 0/4 with 2 INTs and a bad drinking habit). Majik would have to have been playing HOF-caliber ball for Wolf to even consider changing his mind.
I was so bummed the Packers missed the playoffs. I remember seeing the Patriots go ahead, and I remember hearing the news the Patriots were driving once the Rams scored. The Vikings game was a bummer, too--Cincinnatti came back from 22-0 to make it 22-21.
I was convinced if the Packers had made it, they wouldn't have regressed in '90 and '91. (Spoiler alert: I was wrong! I was being a fan.)
But it turned out to work out pretty well in the end.
If you google the 1989 NFL season, and look at the final League standings, you'll see that the Packers are listed as being first place in their division. Which is odd, because we all know the Vikings won the division that year. Or did they?
The Vikings were awarded first place, because they beat the Buccaneers twice, and the Packers lost to the Buccaneers once. This gave the Vikings a better division record (6-2) than the Packers (5-3). But if you took the Buccaneers out of the division (the Buccaneers currently play in the NFC South), the Vikings and Packers would have had identical division records, and the Packers would have been awarded first place by virtue of a better in-Conference record (6-2 vs. the Vikings 4-2).
Of course, the League was organized differently in 1989, and schedules weren't as fair back then. But if we want to play some revisionist history here, we don't even need to point at any particular play or game. We could retroactively award the Packers the division championship based on their better Conference record than the Vikings.
Pats lost 4 Defensive starters in one pre-season game that year.
Oh wow talk about shitty luck 4 in one game not even 4 in all of the preseason.
Steve Grogan excelled at screwing things up.
I don't recall ever seeing a QB (Grogan) wear a huge neck pad.
Whenever I think of plays in the NFL changing history, I think of Drew Bledsoe getting injured and back-up QB Tom Brady taking over.
Also I notice you highlighted a game featuring one of the three AFC teams eliminated from playoff contention going into the week (along with the Jets and Chargers).
woulda, coulda, shoulda. If I woulda walked out of Starbucks 30 seconds later I wouldn't have got hit by that bus.........lol I don't drink coffee
Grogan at the end, herniated disk and all-very tough guy, but probably shouldn’t have been playing those last few years.
That acrobatic catch should've been a incompleted pass.
In 2011 the TB Buccaneers were playing the Detroit Lions. Late in the game Josh Freeman throws a game winning touchdown pass to Kellen Winslow. They reviewed it, and somehow decided to overturn the call, though there was clear confirmation of the catch. TD disallowed, Bucs lose and miss the playoffs because of this. The team that went in the Bucs' place: the eventual Superbowl champion Green Bay Packers.
Green Bay won the Super Bowl after the 2010 season. In 2011 it was the New York Giants.
@@dallasbrubaker6054 the Superbowl itself was in early 2011, because the year flips before the Superbowl every year. The Lions/Bucs game was most likely in late 2010, leading up to the 2011 Superbowl. Anyone who watches the sport most certainly knows this already.
@@charleebrown7188 I know when the Super Bowl is, but some people go by the actual date of the Super Bowl and call it by that. Others go by the NFL season.
For instance Tampa Bay won the 2020 season Super Bowl which was played in the 2021 calendar year.
Technically it is the 2020 Super Bowl since it came after that season.
Idk about this one. First of all, there was no guarantee (to be fair, you didn't guarantee it) that Majkowski would have won MVP even if the Packers made the playoffs. Aside from attempts, completions, and total yards, Montana had better numbers with win-loss record, completion percentage, TDs, INts, yards per game, and QB rating. Montana's 89-90 post-season was also by far his best. Second, the 89 season still probably would have been a fluke in Majkowski's career, as it would not have stopped him from nose-diving in 90 and 91
How do you find out about these games?
Right. How do he know this?
This play doesn't warrant the claim in the title! Espescially when you consider that in 1989 there were 10 out of 13 teams remaining in the AFC (Denver had already locked up a birth and only 14 teams in AFC then) that were battling for the final four playoff spots. Only 3 AFC teams had no shot on the final weekend of games. I haven't watched all those games but I guarantee you there were plenty of single plays that had just as big if not bigger ramifications than the play in the video. There were 3 close down to the wire afc games in week 16. The Oilers-Browns game alone changed the entire complexion of the final standings of the AFC Central in which all 4 teams had a shot at a playoff spot. Kevin Macks TD with 39 seconds to go in that game was 100 times more impactful that the Patriots dropped pass. It changed numerous playoff seedings and ousted several teams from the post season, including my Pittsburgh Steelers. As for the MVP winner. Don Majkowski had no shot at winning even if he did make the playoffs...the race wasn't even close. At the end of the regular season there wasn't even a debate, it was a lock Montana would be named MVP by both the AP and PFWA. I think the AP gave Montana 62 votes and the Magic Man just 6. Montana and his numbers were a lock. He was 11-2, had a cometion percentage of 70.2, threw 26 TDs to 8INTs and had a ridiculous passer rating of 112.4. Majkowskis numbers: 10-6 58.9 completion percentage, 27 TDs to 20 INTs and an 82.3 passer rating. I remember this football season very vividly as it was in the middle of my massive obsession as a kid with football and the NFL. Of course this is just my opinion and we are all entitled to our own but I will have to strongly disagree with the claim of this play being called "the play that changed the entire season" when there were others that are far more deserving.
The Steelers made the playoffs in '89. The win by the Browns on the final Saturday set up a scenario where the Steelers only shot at the final wild card spot required them to win in Tampa Bay, as well as requiring 3 additional AFC teams to lose as well. Indianapolis had to lose @NO. The Raiders had to lose @NYG, and the Bengals had to lose @Min on Monday night. That was their only shot. NO blew out Indy. The NYG handled the Raiders as well thanks in part to a Dave Meggett punt return TD, so it all came down to Monday night. The Vikings dominated Cincy in the 1st half but had to settle for 5 FGs and a 15-0 lead. Cincy answered early in the 2nd half with a TD and added a FG and the game became a nail biter until the Vikings put it away late in the 4th quarter with a TD pass. I still remember ABC had a TV camera in the home of Dwayne Woodruff or Keith Willis and they cut to it on the clinching TD pass by the Vikes. That put the Steelers in the playoffs, despite them losing their first two games of the season by a combined score of 92-10. They would go on to beat the Oilers in the Wild Card game in OT and came within an eyelash of upsetting the #1 seeded Broncos at Denver the following week. That remains one of Chuck Noll's best head coaching jobs ever.
Love your content brother- recommendation: get a computer/youtube microphone to record your voice over and you’ll be soaring!
Again- love your content!
What's the name of the first song playing in the background ?
**COUGH** Bert Emanuel
You get a like just for saying the words 'extra juicy'!!
Need to re-research your attendence figures...
There's easily 150,000 Pats "diehahds from way back" who were at that game....
Mike Holmgren wanted Favre. That is no secret. That wouldn't have changed, and green bay was NOT going to make a Super Bowl run in 1989.
How do you know this stuff?
Yeah...and IF grasshoppers carried machine guns, birds wouldn't f*ck with them...😏🙄
Could be so, but it happened because it was a washed-up old quarterback throwing to a rookie wideout, both on a bad team. Things like that happen for good reasons.
Better "what if?" scenarios are ones involving good teams and players who don't make plays, like what if Jackie Smith hadn't dropped that pass in the third quarter of Super Bowl XIII? Dallas could have won that game, and then they, and not the Steelers, are the team of the 1970s. The perceptions of many of the players on those teams changes on that one outcome. (for all I know, you may have done that one, but if so, I haven't seen it.)
I think it would also be nice to see how this what-if affected the following year's draft, and if that changes anything
Woulda Coulda Shoulda
Nah, Montana played 13 games and had 1 touchdown less than Don who played in 16 and despite that, Joe had a much better td to int ratio with 26-7 while Don had a horrible ratio with 27-20. Plus Montana legit won in a landslide in voting.
Also, of the 10 QBs that lead the league in touchdowns, Montana lead those 10 in Rating, Touchdown Percentage, Interception Percentage, Rating, and tied for most wins with 11. Montana was really the only QB that had could have won MVP.
Montana obliterated the QB passer rating with 112.4. Joe was the best QB ever that season on the best team ever in 1989. Montana went berzerk in the playoffs after that.
First I'll comment that you make some damn good content... I've always wondered why some shows (youtube and reg tv) use multiple songs throughout a segment even if just 5-8 minutes long... And you did change the song after showing the play, but that jingle jangle used throughout the beginning and middle almost gave me a twitch/panic attack
and thus steve grogan became the worst qb in tecmo super bowl history
I think it's a reach on the Packers not getting Brett Favre. Don Majkowski suffered a torn rotator cuff in 1990, and never was the same after that.
Cannot believe the Giants lost to an inferior Rams team that year.
You been doing a lot of "Butterfly Effect" stories lately :P
The next year, the patriots were 1-15
Whether or not the Packers made the playoffs in 89, Majik got hurt in 90 and 91; both were poor years; then got hurt when Favre came in and led them to a win in 92. Majik played a total of 18 games in 90 and 91. He was benched in 91 after some bad games. The 92 draft had a gimmick QB, David Klinger, and Tommy Maddox who came out of college too early. So there was no help for the Packers at QB in the draft.
Majk also took a 6-5 team to 6-10
Is it just me or does it appear the man in motion turns upfield before the ball is snapped?
Dan Jiggets doing the color commentary. The single worst announcer in the history of sports. All sports.
This is a huge fucking stretch. There's nothing special a bout this at all. This is mundane. Stuff like this happens all the time.
Ok, what I’m listening to is *not* “how one play changed the 1989 season.”
What I’m listening to is how one play *could have* changed the 1989 season IF it had been better executed.
But the team that won the game is the team that should have won the game and the season finished as it should have.
wow , do the Packers still trade for Brett Farve in 1992? , plus the Giants lost to the Rams two weeks later, it was a bad home overtime playoff loss. Also maybe Buddy Ryan saves his job if the Eagles beat the Packers in that Wild Card game
Magic Man coulda kept all that ridiculous Favre stuff from ever happening but he fell apart
i honestly don’t find this that big of a deal...the favored team won the game to make the playoffs, and another team didn’t score a TD on the last play....that stuff happens alot🤷🏻♂️....i was expecting some sort of blown call that eliminated the Rams from the playoffs, and the team that made it in their place ended up winning the superbowl or something... something like that would warrant a video like this....but what actually happened was very basic 🤦🏻♂️
If the Vikings lose that Monday night game, there's a chance that the entire AFC Central makes the playoffs
Just a bit of constructive criticism: think this video should have been about 2 and a half minutes long.
This character still exists?
You should do a video on Bert Emanuel's catch in the 1999 NFCCG (Jan. 2000) that was overturned on replay and the ramifications that play had on league history.
That is a stretch.
........wow.
This vid is what "horribly contrived" looks like.
Sheesh
Montana would have been MVP anyways, and the Packers would have been destroyed by the 49ers in the playoffs. It didn't change much.
A lot of extrapolated nonsense. This happens EVERY season. Come on, you are better than this.
Thank you. A great deal of build-up for absolutely no pay off.
That's the thing about football with 'what ifs'. You could have made the same video about thousands of other plays in history. Nice vid though.
I'm sorry but the BIGGEST WHAT IF IN NFL HISTORY is WHAT IF the NFL gave Lamar Hunt permission to buy the Chicago Cardinals OR a Dallas Expansion Team?
If that happens, you don't get the AFL, so no Merger, don't get the Super Bowl, which Lamar Hunt named, future Expansion looks different & the Domino Effect list goes on & on.
lulz, nah... everyone alive then knows Majik was a one year wonder... he was horrible
if it's and buts where candy nuts it's would be a better christmas
totally miss the shorter term implications- if the rams aren;'t in the playoffs then 49ers play the winner of the wildcard game (which was the rams but two teams from the same division weren't allowed to play each other in the divisional round) the giants would have played the vikings instead of the rams, possibly making it to the NFC championship game as a result.
That year, I don't think it would have made much of a difference. The Giants always played the 49ers tough in that era but as good as the 49ers were in 90, they were a lot better in 89 -- especially in the playoffs. Craig was much better in 89 than he was a year later. The same could be said for much of the defense. Given how much he clowned two of the league's better defenses (Minnesota and Denver), it's also hard to imagine the Giants shutting down the 89 version of Montana the way they did a year later. I'd personally say that the 89 49ers were the best team ever. Granted, I'm a 49ers fan so take any bias that comes with that into account. But even if they weren't, I think their level of play in relation to their opposition in the postseason was better than any in NFL history.
Granted, I don't think the 49ers flatten the Giants the same way they did aganist the Rams. The pass rush may apply similar pressure but Simms wouldn't get as flustered as Everett did. I think the game would be similar to the MNF game they had earlier that year, which was a hard fought and relatively high scoring 10-point win for the 49ers. But, we'll never know.
@@mfdixon1985 I might have the year confused, but I thought the mnf game was a 7-3 game or was that 1990, and not 1989?
@@davidrivera9743 they played on MNF at Candlestick both years. But the 7-3 game was 1990. 1989 was like 34-24
@@mfdixon1985 Thanks for the clarification.
Dude. Maybe get a job or something. Way too much time on your hands..
To Sum up the video in one phrase....The Butterfly Effect... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect