I'm an officer in the RNZN and it's interesting to see how different the two schools are. My JOCT (Junior Officer Common Training) was 21 weeks long and was not actually that crazy on PT (formally anyway). We had field excercises in the bush four times each a week long where we were assessed on our ability to lead a team. The evolutions were so rough, running on very little sleep and being expected to perform as a leader. A decent chunk of people failed these evolutions and were discharged.
Nice and great video. Very straight straight to point. On the PRT for the officers, how is it? Swimming included? I wanna get in but I am not that skillful swimmer.
You only have to swim at OCS twice. Once for the Third Class Swim Qual, and once for the final evolution. Third Class Swim Qualification isn't too bad, even for an inexperienced swimmer. You can find info on the specifics if you look into it. If you are a complete novice or uncomfortable in the water, find a pool you can go to and get more comfortable. If you fail the swim qual, they will send you to the pool on a regular basis and help you learn to swim so you can pass the qual. The swim qual is something you need to have before you leave OCS, but it isn't a major evolution and they work with you.
@danielfigas Is there a way to study for and prepare for the navigation phase before OCS? Are there any study sources/materials I could look up? Thank you.
There are two main parts of the navigation class that trip people up: rules of the road and maneuvering boards. The Coast Guard publishes a Navigation Rules & Regulations Handbook (a PDF can be found on the USCG website) that objectively states the rules of the road, but there are lots of reference sheets on the internet you can use to review the lights and sounds different vessel types use. There are also some guides you can buy that make the rules easier to consume if you have nothing else to do but learn the rules. As for the second thing that people struggle with, here on CZcams you can find lots of resources showing the steps for maneuvering boards involving CPA, avoidance, and stationing.
I went to OCS in 1995 without any clue. I was at Price Waterhouse, hating corporate work. I was a college rower and ran 2 marathons - then boom: corporate 15 hours per day. I literally walked off the job and went to the officer recruiter. I was that guy: too dumb to quit. I was laughing during indoc and unable to march. I did more PT than anyone. I was a heat shield. Academics and fitness saved me. I ended up in Navy Intel and picked up jump school in the end + extra jumps to get the gold wings. Good times, but don't be me. Get the gouge and know the plan of the day.
I don’t know exactly how other communities work, but I can tell you what happens for SWO. If you are familiar with ship selection the way it is done at the Naval Academy or for ROTC, it essentially works the same way. The difference is that you are only ranked against the other SWOs in your OCS class. Near the end of training, Big Navy personnel sends a list of ships which will be available for each OCS class to choose from. You are ranked according to your performance while at OCS and the #1 SWO gets the first pick from the available choices and so on and so forth until everybody has a ship. Then they start to cut your orders and schedule your schools you attend before checking onboard the ship you chose.
I am shipping next week Worries about physical (running) and RLP. Not sure if u can help but when I think of the worst outcome (separation, not the DOR) makes me sweat.
Is it true the push is bad and that Lasagne is purposefully on menu before JOC Push? Also do I really need to hit GOOD LOW? I’m at about sat low on everything. Thank you.
Do u have to get excellent to pass at OCS? The application require last PRT to be overall excellent, but when I get there, is a good high/medium make the cut?
well my fiend, if you are in overall good physical shape, it doesn't really matter. OCS is physically demanding and only the fittest survive, If you aim for Sat or Good Low, I am not gonna sugarcoat it, it may not end well. PRT is just a part of overall endurance, you run, march, RPT'ed 24/7.
While I definitely didn't enjoy every second, overall I loved OCS and feel like it was a great experience. As far as joining the Navy in general, I would say the book is still out since I have only been out in the fleet for a couple weeks at this point. I absolutely love some things about being in the Navy, but I also wouldn't say my time has been purely positive and it complicates your personal life in a lot of ways. I was lucky enough to get the platform and the duty station I wanted so it could definitely be worse if you wind up stuck somewhere you really don't want to go. If I had to say one way or the other though, thus far I would definitely recommend it if you have done some homework to figure out a little bit about what your life will be like and are still interested in serving.
@@danielfigas9144 thank you for your reply. Where is your duty station May I ask? I am prior enlisted and really didn’t enjoy it, but that’s mainly because I was at the bottom always getting yelled at and answering to E4s and E5s that basically had the IQ of a baked potato 😄 I feel like as an officer that may not be the case so much though.
@@Kingx90 I don't mind at all, I'm over in San Diego. I'm sure as prior enlisted you know not all officers are the greatest or brightest, but there is still that selection process which does somewhat raise the bar. As DIVO you mostly answer to your DH and the XO/CO so it is more rare to have superiors who are clueless, but I think the officers seem to clash over personality and temperament and those kinds of things more often. You have to coordinate with other officers and departments which makes wardroom and CPO mess politics are a whole extra layer of maneuvering on top of simply doing your job and definitely not fun to deal with.
Do you learn how to disassemble your rifle at OCS? And for the push ups how are they counted. I see alot of videos showing fist spacing between the chest and floor but the preparation packet my recruiter gave me shows an example where there is more than a fist spacing. I leave in February 2022.
@@chrisbomb35 best of luck! What is your chosen job? I’m leaning towards supply corps. How long did it take from when you first met the recruiter til you shipped out?
@@Kingx90 My designation is NFO and I'd say roughly just under a year (11 months) when I first made contact with a recruiter. I was originally going for SWO but loved avaition so much so I sent a package for Air.
During indoc phase (first 3 weeks) you don't get to call home at all except in emergency situations. After week 3 until week 9, you can sign up for just one 10 minute phone call a week. You don't have to earn them, you are entitled to your phone call. After you get to candio phase, you get your cell phone back.
I graduated back in 1987. Went to Supply school after that. Moboard follwed me back first semester, Celestial nearly got me second semester.
Thank you sir! Hooyah, stay safe!
Great video
I'm an officer in the RNZN and it's interesting to see how different the two schools are. My JOCT (Junior Officer Common Training) was 21 weeks long and was not actually that crazy on PT (formally anyway). We had field excercises in the bush four times each a week long where we were assessed on our ability to lead a team. The evolutions were so rough, running on very little sleep and being expected to perform as a leader. A decent chunk of people failed these evolutions and were discharged.
I'm going into RNZN JOCT this year, have you got any tips for getting through it and passing out well?
Thanks for the video. I’ll be heading there in 35 days :)
I meant to comment, but all finished. Definitely would not want to do that again lol
Please explain more :)@@philipandfriends
How was it?
Thanks for this video
I just selected for OCS!
I went to boot camp at MCRD San Diego in 1984. I still eat fast.
Semper fi
Nice and great video. Very straight straight to point. On the PRT for the officers, how is it? Swimming included? I wanna get in but I am not that skillful swimmer.
You only have to swim at OCS twice. Once for the Third Class Swim Qual, and once for the final evolution. Third Class Swim Qualification isn't too bad, even for an inexperienced swimmer. You can find info on the specifics if you look into it. If you are a complete novice or uncomfortable in the water, find a pool you can go to and get more comfortable. If you fail the swim qual, they will send you to the pool on a regular basis and help you learn to swim so you can pass the qual. The swim qual is something you need to have before you leave OCS, but it isn't a major evolution and they work with you.
@@danielfigas9144 thanks a bunch
Did you have to go to H class, if so for how long and what for? I’ve heard RLP is brutal
Appreciate it 🙏
I am planning to go to OCS, prior enlisted
Looking to commissioned in a few years. I'm currently a marine Reservist, (prior active duty)
is there any difference going into it if you’re prior enlisted ?
When is the IST during week 1 now? Tuesday morning?
@danielfigas
Is there a way to study for and prepare for the navigation phase before OCS? Are there any study sources/materials I could look up?
Thank you.
There are two main parts of the navigation class that trip people up: rules of the road and maneuvering boards. The Coast Guard publishes a Navigation Rules & Regulations Handbook (a PDF can be found on the USCG website) that objectively states the rules of the road, but there are lots of reference sheets on the internet you can use to review the lights and sounds different vessel types use. There are also some guides you can buy that make the rules easier to consume if you have nothing else to do but learn the rules. As for the second thing that people struggle with, here on CZcams you can find lots of resources showing the steps for maneuvering boards involving CPA, avoidance, and stationing.
Are you going to make more videos??
I remember you. I was in 02.
Do you know where I could find the most up-to-date Appendix Bravo/Delta? I found the 2017 one online but I’ve heard some things have changed
It’s almost identical to what we learned when I was in basic in 2008.
I went to OCS in 1995 without any clue. I was at Price Waterhouse, hating corporate work. I was a college rower and ran 2 marathons - then boom: corporate 15 hours per day. I literally walked off the job and went to the officer recruiter.
I was that guy: too dumb to quit. I was laughing during indoc and unable to march. I did more PT than anyone. I was a heat shield. Academics and fitness saved me.
I ended up in Navy Intel and picked up jump school in the end + extra jumps to get the gold wings.
Good times, but don't be me. Get the gouge and know the plan of the day.
"too dumb to quit" bro you quit accounting cause it was "hard"
hows the showering / bathroom situtation? Im assuming & hoping not the same as enlisted boot camp lol
More videos plz
So how are you liking it?
Hi Daniel! Did you get to pick where you got stationed at the end of OCS?
I don’t know exactly how other communities work, but I can tell you what happens for SWO. If you are familiar with ship selection the way it is done at the Naval Academy or for ROTC, it essentially works the same way. The difference is that you are only ranked against the other SWOs in your OCS class. Near the end of training, Big Navy personnel sends a list of ships which will be available for each OCS class to choose from. You are ranked according to your performance while at OCS and the #1 SWO gets the first pick from the available choices and so on and so forth until everybody has a ship. Then they start to cut your orders and schedule your schools you attend before checking onboard the ship you chose.
I am shipping next week
Worries about physical (running) and RLP.
Not sure if u can help but when I think of the worst outcome (separation, not the DOR) makes me sweat.
How was it?
@@cbryan It made me sweat
@@mawas6801did you end up rolling?
No, my tibias made me DORed@@thejourneyman1299
Is it true the push is bad and that Lasagne is purposefully on menu before JOC Push? Also do I really need to hit GOOD LOW? I’m at about sat low on everything. Thank you.
I’m in the same boat as you. But I’ve been practicing on the bike. And can get a good low. My recruiter said I’ll be able to bike at OCS
@@tankjohnson5648 you will NOT be able to bike at OCS. Please start practicing your run.
Hey you were our candio! LMAO 03-22
Do u have to get excellent to pass at OCS? The application require last PRT to be overall excellent, but when I get there, is a good high/medium make the cut?
well my fiend, if you are in overall good physical shape, it doesn't really matter. OCS is physically demanding and only the fittest survive, If you aim for Sat or Good Low, I am not gonna sugarcoat it, it may not end well. PRT is just a part of overall endurance, you run, march, RPT'ed 24/7.
For blankets, are the beds twin or full size?
Twins from what I’ve seen
Where you in the Navy or did you just graduate from college?
I didn't have any prior service.
BDOC?
Here’s my question: Did you enjoy it? We’re you happy you did it? Would you recommend this experience?
While I definitely didn't enjoy every second, overall I loved OCS and feel like it was a great experience. As far as joining the Navy in general, I would say the book is still out since I have only been out in the fleet for a couple weeks at this point. I absolutely love some things about being in the Navy, but I also wouldn't say my time has been purely positive and it complicates your personal life in a lot of ways. I was lucky enough to get the platform and the duty station I wanted so it could definitely be worse if you wind up stuck somewhere you really don't want to go. If I had to say one way or the other though, thus far I would definitely recommend it if you have done some homework to figure out a little bit about what your life will be like and are still interested in serving.
@@danielfigas9144 thank you for your reply. Where is your duty station May I ask? I am prior enlisted and really didn’t enjoy it, but that’s mainly because I was at the bottom always getting yelled at and answering to E4s and E5s that basically had the IQ of a baked potato 😄 I feel like as an officer that may not be the case so much though.
@@Kingx90 I don't mind at all, I'm over in San Diego. I'm sure as prior enlisted you know not all officers are the greatest or brightest, but there is still that selection process which does somewhat raise the bar. As DIVO you mostly answer to your DH and the XO/CO so it is more rare to have superiors who are clueless, but I think the officers seem to clash over personality and temperament and those kinds of things more often. You have to coordinate with other officers and departments which makes wardroom and CPO mess politics are a whole extra layer of maneuvering on top of simply doing your job and definitely not fun to deal with.
@@danielfigas9144 interesting. In which ways do they clash over personality/temperament would you say? Could you give examples?
Do you learn how to disassemble your rifle at OCS? And for the push ups how are they counted. I see alot of videos showing fist spacing between the chest and floor but the preparation packet my recruiter gave me shows an example where there is more than a fist spacing. I leave in February 2022.
No, its not like the Marine Corps. Rifles are purely for the purpose of rifle drill.
Dude did you leave yet? If so let us know what’s up and how it went.
@@Kingx90 I'm actually swearing in today at Lemoore NAS and I depart on the 11th this month to Newport.
@@chrisbomb35 best of luck! What is your chosen job? I’m leaning towards supply corps. How long did it take from when you first met the recruiter til you shipped out?
@@Kingx90 My designation is NFO and I'd say roughly just under a year (11 months) when I first made contact with a recruiter. I was originally going for SWO but loved avaition so much so I sent a package for Air.
Just leave the Mo Boards to the OSes! LOL
After being in for over a year, how are you liking it (or not liking it)?
How often do you get to call home? Do you have to earn phone calls?
During indoc phase (first 3 weeks) you don't get to call home at all except in emergency situations. After week 3 until week 9, you can sign up for just one 10 minute phone call a week. You don't have to earn them, you are entitled to your phone call. After you get to candio phase, you get your cell phone back.
@@danielfigas9144 Thanks so much for the input! one more question, do you have to complete pulls up in your physical assessment test?
@@heathercox1642 No, the fitness tests (PFA's) consist of doing as many push-ups, a plank, and a 1.5 mile run.
Do you have to enlist before going to ocs?
No you don't need to be prior enlisted
Nope just have a bachelors degree, same goes for ARMY and Marine OCS.
I'm even still that child but you got. A child with a child and a father who done nothing wrong still what ya got - Willy 0
Found my video to study
That navigation part lost me already
I saw this guy at the Norfolk gym…. He was struggling to curl the 30lb dumbbells… lol
🤣 How the hell did you even find this!?
@@danielfigas9144 lol I was looking for some info to send to a friend who got picked up. Your video covers it pretty well!!
The right way, the wrong way, and the NAVY WAY. OCS will be fun once you decide to do it the NAVY WAY. 79005. NUPOC.