Attending 100+ churches, this is what I think of Mormonism | with David Boice
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2023
- We are stoked to have a conversation with David Boice on the show today! David is the host of 52 Churches in 52 Weeks and today he tells us his story of faith and adventure.
David talks about having a falling out with his church and decided to distance himself from churches to focus primarily on spirituality. However, he had a prompting to attend 52 churches in 52 weeks. David says that through his experience of attending different churches, he was humbled to learn how many differences there were in worshiping Jesus Christ. He has now visited over 100 churches!
He explains his first experience visiting a LDS Church (otherwise known as a Mormon Church) and how surprised he was in leaning about the people and the teachings. His biggest surprise about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was the emphasis on Jesus Christ.
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Thanks for having me on. Was an honor to meet everyone!
Thanks for all you do! You’re a force for good!
Keep up the awesome work!
Bro, you need to like come to a church that’s actually spirit filled living for Christ Jesus, the Mormon church has a false Jesus, Jesus, who cannot save. Give me a reply back. I would love to talk to you.
Thanks for being an honest and courageous Christian! God bless you!
Keep it up David. Thou art cool🙏
I can relate to David. I did not visit 52 churches but was close. The LDS church had everything that others did not have.
Plus secret ceremonies Joe Smith lies polygamy no caffeine, womizers racists manipulators when they are called out fir these atrocities hiding money big money ! Members are held at bay ! Just stating facts
In the New Testament, Jesus' message was simple: Love God and love one another. How does the LDS church help people to attain that above other churches? I attended an LDS church and a family told me that I was sitting in "their" row. I felt unwelcome.
@@lorijohnston7795 Sorry you had that happen. You should have told them where to go. I am in a bishopric and would have done so if I witnessed it. No family owns a pew anymore, at least not in the LDS church. But you can't blame one family you encountered as representative of the entire church. That would be a stereotype wouldn't it?
Love One Another is a name of one of our hymns. It is the central message of Christ and what members are taught.
Doesn't have the truth, and don't have the Holy Eucharistic which is the source and submit of our faith! Don't fall for deception. The Catholic church is the only one instituted by Jesus Chtist. Amen 🙏
@@jenniebars6575 300 years after his death? After centuries of persecution by the Romans??
I really like how David Boice is open-minded and courageous enough to visit all kinds of churches (including ours), and how he tries to avoid criticizing, but rather focuses on the bridges he can make. I have seen several of his videos, and he has a really kind spirit.
I agree.
I grew up Catholic , left at age 16 for 7 years , and came back last year.
Upon my return to God, I had a bad encounter with an LDS member and that made me mad and in my anger I started to criticize the LDS church and the believers. Became anti Mormon and really hated the LDS
Then I realized that this was no way to be a Christian, so I prayed that God could change my heart from hate to love and he did.
After that I began my journey on learning all things LDS , then while scrolling through my youtube feed I saw a video from @Hello Saints and have been following him since the very beginning and have learned A LOT
Now I have been learning about Mormonism for over a year, and attended a temple tour recently (although I was a bit uncomfortable at times but still a nice experience) , plan on attending a few Sunday meetings soon, etc.
I too have made it my mission to learn about all of the other Christian churches , I love learning about what everyone believes.
So far Ive attended a Baptist service , Byzantine Catholic divine liturgy (Mass) , I plan on attending a Greek Orthodox Divine Liturgy soon, I have plans to visit a Lutheran, Episcopalian, Methodist, Baptist, LDS , etc services.
I really hate how divided Christianity is and I often think that this isn't what Jesus would have wanted. Which is why I returned back to the Catholic church.
But still, I love meeting my fellow Christian brothers and sisters in Christ.
I spend sooo much more time learning about other Christian faiths , I really believe that we should all come together as one.
@@Compulsive-Elk7103 I agree with you! I'm LDS and when I was on my mission long ago, my missionary Companions and I would go to different churches and meet the people there and learn about them also. It was pretty amazing and fascinating. It helped me strengthen my faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It's okay for all of us to have questions, it's important for all of us to research everything we can to help us make healthy decisions for ourselves in our own spirituality and religious worship. You are always welcome to come to the LDS Church whenever you are ready to see what it's like. The people everywhere I have gone have always been very kind and loving in each of the Wards throughout the nation and world.
I grew up LDS and was fortunate to have a father who did a lot of fireside’s regarding the restoration of the church using a movie size screen painting my aunt painted of the Plan of Salvation. I knew where we came from, why we’re here and where we’re going when we die. Because of this, I thought everyone who went to a Christian Church knew and believed these things. Even though I have learned much about other belief’s I always came back to the LDS church because there’s so much more knowledge restored by the Lord and I found my questions from the Bible explained many times in the Book of Mormon. I love how a new convert said the Bible and Book of Mormon are like a Husband and Wife! In the Book of Mormon the things happening in the world today were written about and help me in my own preparation. I feel sad that some people refuse to read these words from those who lived on this continent long ago. They are of great worth for these last days.
@@binmyrtmind I agree with you!
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Question? When you went door to door were you up front with what LDS believe and what Joseph Smith preached? Example; Do you tell them the KJV under your arm is a corrupted bible and the BoM is superior? Do you tell them your LDS corporation is the only true church and every other denomination is false. Do you tell them Brigham Young said the only path to to the highest salvation is through the LDS membership and their priesthood? Big question do you tell them the Book of Mormon was translated by Joseph the stone seer gazing into his treasure digging rock with his face stuffed in his hat?
David, it's okay if you don't understand everything in the LDS church right now. Thanks for keeping an open mind and checking us out rather than just believing what others have said. I hope you will continue on your faith journey and find the right church for you wherever it leads.
Keep looking
I studied the Book of Mormon cover to cover with prayer. I found it to be a 2nd witness to the Bible. I took it to God in prayer, received a direct witness and now it’s 50 yrs later and it’s been a great ride👍😊
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The problem I have is that it's too close to the 1769 KJV that was in Joseph's possession.
He said he was using a stone in a hat to translate ANCIENT GOLD PLATES. If these plates are from before the 1769 KJV Bible, they couldn't contain the errors and mistranslations from the 1769 KJV. According to the Book of Mormon, these records were engraved on golden plates in a language called “reformed Egyptian” and buried by the last prophet, Moroni, around 421 AD. Joseph Smith, the founder of the movement, said that he was guided by an angel to the location of the plates and that he translated them by the power of God using a device called the Urim and Thummim.
One of the challenges to the authenticity of the Book of Mormon is the presence of many linguistic similarities to the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, which was published in 1611 and revised in 1769. The Book of Mormon contains not only the same words and phrases as the KJV, but also some of its translation errors, anachronisms, and textual variants.
For example, one of the most cited examples of KJV errors in the Book of Mormon is Isaiah 9:1, which reads:
Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations.
This verse is quoted verbatim in 2 Nephi 19:1, but it contains a mistranslation of the Hebrew word kaved (כָּבֵד), which means “honor” or “glory”, not “grievously”. The correct translation should be:
Nevertheless there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan.
This error was introduced in the 1769 edition of the KJV, which was based on earlier editions that had corrupted or misread manuscripts. The Book of Mormon follows this error, suggesting that Joseph Smith used the 1769 edition as a source.
Another example is Matthew 5:22, which reads:
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
This verse is quoted almost exactly in 3 Nephi 12:22, but it contains a textual variant that is not found in the earliest and most reliable Greek manuscripts. The phrase “without a cause” (εἰκῇ) is absent from these manuscripts, implying that Jesus condemned all anger, not just unjustified anger. The phrase was probably added by later scribes who wanted to soften Jesus’ teaching or harmonize it with other passages. The Book of Mormon follows this variant, suggesting that Joseph Smith used a late and derivative text as a source.
There are many other examples of KJV errors in the Book of Mormon, such as Isaiah 2:16 (which mistranslates “ships of Tarshish” as “ships of the sea”), Matthew 6:13 (which adds a doxology that is not original), and John 1:18 (which uses “only begotten Son” instead of “only begotten God”). These errors raise serious questions about how Joseph Smith translated an ancient text using a modern one that contained mistakes and alterations.
One thing is certain - those errors could not have been on the gold plates. So the Book of Mormon was not taken from gold plates
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@@truth.speakerhave you ever ever translated a foreign language? I have. When the speaker quotes a bible passage in Russian I immediate translate into my well versed King James Version. No one translates bible verses by making it up on the fly. Try to educate yourself.
@@suem6004 Sue, I appreciate your view on this. It's valuable to know how you approach translation work. However what truly matters is the approach Joseph Smith used when translating. _That_ is the key here. So how did Joseph approach this work?
I’m LDS and have been a David Boice fan for a while. I love his humility and curiosity. ❤
And now he's been baptized a member. Welcome to the fold, brother 🙏🏻🙌🏻
So crazy, I was so stoked when I saw!
"So much here" = the fullness of the gospel. 😊
God bless, I found the truth too. I am an indigenous Australian. Many of my people have joined also.
Wow. Welcome brother. My brother inlaw is from Ahman Land he joined the Church too.
@@philliplambert769 Thanks Phillip, Arnhem Land has many real traditionalist Aboriginal Australians.
What is truth?
@@lanbaode It is something that will truly set you free. Lies die because truth is.
@@user-es5rz8wv7u you are describing, not defining. (BTW, in relation to Mormonism, remember “truth” is not based on or proven by “testimony” no matter how many but by “objective reality.” Claims are not evidence, they are different!) follow the fundamental rules of defining: do not use the word being defined in the definition.
Kia Ora David. All the way from New Zealand. I hope one day the Christian community will one day accept us as believers of Jesus Christ. We must band together and prepare the world for Christ's return.
@Elizabeth-rk3do Oh sister Elizabeth, how little you know! Even the Bible mentions lucipher's fall from Heaven and your sectarians cannot deduce the truth of even part of what the LDS teaches?And your right to an extent- Jesus didn't expressly require 10%- He required you give ALL "and you will have treasure in Heaven". Keep studying sister. You'll come to a hnowledge of the truth.
Hi Kira, I agree with your comment. Do you have a site?
Kiaora bro the church is true
@@bearonaromp7473LDS believe in the Laws of Sacrifice and Consecration, in which we are commanded to give 100% of ourselves to God. But for this time on earth, he askes his covenant church to give 10% of their increase in economic terms, to help build his Kingdom and help people become truly born again.
I remember at age six I started going to all the churches where I was living. After a while, I stopped going to church or just stopped looking. At age 17 God used something I was very interested in to get my attention so he used a radio-controlled airplane. I watched him fly for two weeks while sitting on the other side of the grass field he was flying from. He finally invited me to come closer which excited me. The day before Sunday I asked if he would fly tomorrow, He said no I never fly on Sundays because I go to church and spend time with my family. I asked what church he goes to and he said Mormon. I had never heard of it and I said what is a Mormon? Now I am one and have never regretted it. I was born in Kennett, MO, and moved to Oregon at age 3.
David Boice is a really good, humble guy and I appreciate his work and research.
David Boice just got baptized! Welcome to the fold. I'm not surprised, if he's the kind of people who are willing to listen to and follow promptings.
David, you have some incredible analogies and insights. I am LDS and your reminding me of all the things I just take for granted. Your also reigniting my remembrance of things I need to strengthen in my testimony and my faith in Christ. Thank you for your curiosity and insight and sharing it with the world. May God bless your journey and help you to never stop learning. Line upon line, precept on precept.
What I love about David Boice's 52 churches in 52 weeks is that he considered our church so strange he didn't even include us in the first year. We come in as stranger than churches with snakes and heavy metal bands. It makes us seem a lot cooler than we actually are.
I've been watching David's channel for a while, and I have enjoyed being a passenger on his journey. I love that he came on your channel! Really sincere guy. Thank you!
Glad to hear you enjoyed the episode ☺
This might sound completely random but one suggestion I have is for this channel to get a ROUND table! Lol it drives me crazy how you and your guests have to turn completely sideways to see each other and talk to each other. A round table would allow you all to see each other without the middle person turning his/her back to someone. Just a suggestion 👍 love your channel!
Agree
Or just couches like other podcasts it’s more comfy and you can do longer interviews and not look weird sitting at a table
The church is the same wherever you go! ❤💖✨️💜🌷🌸🌷🌻🌷🌸
I love David's channel. I happened to notice one of his videos that youtube recommended on the right of the screen and was drawn to it. I remember saying out loud, "I have got to check this out." I watched every one. I found you guys in a similar way; youtube put you up as a recommendation while I was watching his channel. I usually watch you guys while eating lunch at work. I love you guys; you're great, but I have to admit, 52 is the only channel, show, or anything of that sort that I am eagerly anticipating and check, "has he put up another one; has he put up another one?"
I was not a horrible person before, but because of my spending virtual time with David Boice I am a much better person. More patient, more empathetic, easier to find light in others. It's great. I am also interactive now. Because of David I transformed from a passive youtube watcher to an interactive commenter. That has actually been very good for me and hopefully someone else has benefitted as well.
Thank you David. And thank you David and Cam. Great work.
Thank you for sharing your heartfelt appreciation for David's channel and our team. It's awesome to hear how David's content has had such a positive impact on your life. We're thrilled that you've also enjoyed our channel and have found the inspiration to become more engaged and interactive. Your kind words and support mean a lot to us. We'll continue working hard to provide great content. Thank you for being a part of our community!
And now he’s been baptized, awesome!!!
As a missionary I jumped on every opportunity to visit other churches when I was invited. I went to many many churches. Not only was it a great way to meet people who wanted to learn about our church but it strengthened my testimony to see what was missing. Different churches have different levels of completeness but i felt there were always glaringly obvious things just missing from each one. I rarely felt that other churches were just wrong. Most of them were full of great people just trying to get closer to God and do the right thing. I never felt that they were wrong as much as there was just a lot missing that they weren't aware of yet. I learned most churches actually believe many similar things to us about grace and heaven and hell and the mercy of God and how to live righteously. It was eye opening to me to realize what many other churches teach about heaven is very close to what we believe about the telestial or terrestrial kingdom. How many really teach eternal marriage/family/progression? Its "til death do us part" and maybe become an angel in heaven after you die. In a nutshell the church of jesus christ of latter day saints simply teaches that there is more. More possibility for eternal reward, more holy places on earth, more scriptures, more prophets!
I have been following David's journey all year 😊 Though I've been LDS all my life I have always enjoyed visiting other churches. David's channel will expand anyone's cultural and spiritual literacy. Thanks to 52 weeks I have started attending a messianic synagogue so I am blessed with 2 sabbaths each week.
What is a messianic synagogue?
Some people who are culturally Jewish but accept Yeshua as Messiah prefer to worship together instead of with Calvinists or Baptists.
I love his recognition of the fruits. That’s so the key. And as a member of the LDS faith, there is nothing in this for the individuals inviting him except joy so their efforts are pure. I appreciate that he keeps saying this. I need it.
My husband is a convert to Jesus Christs true church. Grateful . 😊❤
"The reverence held for President Nelson" - until you go to conference and witness it personally, you won't quite understand. Prior to the start of the session, everyone is chit-chatting, there's all this noise, thousands of people talking, laughing.....and then President Nelson walks in. And you almost instantly are able to hear a pin drop from the other side of the conference center. Truly something to behold. The love and respect we have for our leaders is hard to match.
David, so great to see you on Saints Unscripted. You are always a delight to listen to. Safe travels on your journey through life.
David, I admire your efforts and soul searching to find a religion that feels like home to your soul. Especially in this day and age where many are leaving organized religion. We welcome you, and everyone, to our LDS Congregations anytime, whether you join the church or not.
Take the good that you have and let’s see if we can add to it. For me, it’s the covenants that we make, and the ongoing/modern day revelation that helps me to feel the LDS religion is the best fit for me.
Best of luck to you on your journey!! Godspeed!
No one in the church is perfect, we are all trying to do the best we can.
Love 52 in 52!!
Enjoyed listing to this video with David. After reading the BOM in 10 days, I joined the church 6 months later at age 22. I'm now 64, and it has been the best decision of my life. Nothing else compares.
Love David Boice’s channel and I hope he finds exactly what he’s looking for :).
I've always wanted to do what David has done and so it's cool to live vicariously through him.
I LOVE THIS GUY!!!!
Step further: I’m in love with this guy.
I appreciate these kinds of conversation of openness and curiosity (on both sides). We need more of this in religious (and sociopolitical) discourse. Thank you, David!
Thanks David Boice for coming on the podcast .Ive watched you a few times on your 52 churches. I'm glad in all the times you have been in an lds church you have been welcomed warmly. I love all the wards I have lvved in because you become ward families so to speak because of the love we have with each other. I hope you find what you are looking for .God bless you on you journey .
I have been to many churches, and sadly 😔 I have never been to another church and felt the spirit, in them at all! It was very sad! But I'm so thankful I always ❤️ feel the spirit of God in our church and the Temple! 🌸🌷🌸🌷💜👍🙏🏻🙏🙏🏽🙏🏿
The Holy Spirit is a true entity who can be communicated with and receive answers. The promise is "Ask and it shall be given of you, Seek and ye shall find, knock and the door shall be opened."
The Holy Spirit is within every believer, always. He is the comforter and will never leave you. Not sure if you were aware of this
@@Mmmmmk247 Many are fooled - read 2nd Thessalonians Ch 2: Vrs 3-4. The Holy Spirit must be endowed upon believers.
@@user-es5rz8wv7u you keep quoting scripture out of context and applying it to what your saying. The spirit does not leave believers, so “not feeling the spirit” because you are in a bar or non LDS church or whatever… that’s not how He works.
Feelings are deceiving. Many scriptures on this. Many LDS just think every bad feeling is a confirmation from the spirit whatever they are doing, or place they are at, the spirit can’t reside so it leaves you. It’s just not scriptural
@@Mmmmmk247 God does not dwell in unholy temples, which temple we are. It shall remain to be seen who is quoting scriptures out of context.
I love this guy’s channel! I’ve watched a bunch of his videos and admire his kindness and respect ❤
I always had a great time at fast and testimony. I loved hearing all those fascinating testimonies.
Cannot wait for General Conference!! Sure hope David tunes in and watches two or three sessions. I am only 77 yrs old. For about 35 years now my wife and I watch every session every six months. Such a spiritual feast. Words just cannot tell the full story. Reading the Book of Mormon so many times I have lost count. Love you all so,much!
Do you love ex-Mormons that converted to the Body of CHRIST after finding GOD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST? Or do you call them apostate, shun them, tear their families and marriage apart then boycot their businesses to hurt them financially? Your track record speaks for it's self.
Tune in and watch cement cure or paint dry would be a better use of time. That Russell looks like satan incarnate, creepy.
One of my favorites Book of Mormon passages, and of the Bible is the fact, that the Lord taught the Palestinians to be perfect as their Father who was in Heaven was Perfect. When He once resurrected, goes to the Nephites, He teaches them to "be perfect as your Father who is in Heaven, and Me are Perfect". What a Great testimony of Truth in The Book of Mormon.
David, I am so glad to have heard you. You are awesome! I love hw honest and kind you are! All the best!
This is an amazing project of visiting all of these churches with an open mind to go on this spiritual journey. I love this.
Pastor Jeff visited my ward in St. Louis. Meramec River Ward!!
Fun to see David and David visiting in person! I'm one of the many who boosted the number of views to the 2 LDS videos of David Boice you mentioned. A quick note that the quiet reverence expressed toward Pres. Nelson at the during General Conference (and for past prophets) would be a reverence for the God-given priesthood keys he holds as the Lord's prophet. As Jesus gifted Peter, "I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 16:19), so we believe he also gifted President Nelson-and those prophets of the church who came before him-with the same priesthood keys.
I'm really curious about David Boice's thoughts about what another David has to say about his long search... David Alexander!
…In LDS teaching, did Jesus himself give Joseph Smith the priesthood? If so, that’s amazing!
@@BGCflyer It IS amazing! Here is part of the story:
The recorded accounts in the Church are that the restoration of priesthood authority was given to Joseph Smith first through a heavenly visitation by John the Baptist to ordain him with the Aaronic Priesthood (under the direction of Peter who is under the direction of Christ), followed a few weeks or months later by Peter, James and John ordaining Joseph with the Melchizedek Priesthood keys.
The Church's website states:
"Through the priesthood, God accomplishes the work of salvation and exaltation. The priesthood authority and keys needed to direct God’s work on earth were restored to the Prophet Joseph Smith. These keys are held by Church leaders today. They call and authorize others to assist in God’s work."
"A priesthood line of authority is 'a sequential pattern of ordinations that can be followed back to the early beginnings of the Church and ultimately to the Savior.' This orderly chain ensures that God's priesthood authority has been received in an unbroken line from Jesus Christ and that 'no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.'
From Joseph Smith History, we read about the first account:
"We still continued the work of translation, when, in the ensuing month (May, 1829), we on a certain day went into the woods to pray and inquire of the Lord respecting baptism for the remission of sins... calling upon the Lord, a messenger from heaven descended in a cloud of light, and having laid his hands upon us, he ordained us, saying:
"Upon you my fellow servants, in the name of Messiah, I confer the Priesthood of Aaron, which holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance, and of baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; and this shall never be taken again from the earth until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness."
... "The messenger who visited us on this occasion and conferred this Priesthood upon us, said that his name was John, the same that is called John the Baptist in the New Testament, and that he acted under the direction of Peter, James and John, who held the keys of the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which Priesthood, he said, would in due time be conferred on us, and that I should be called the first Elder of the Church, and he (Oliver Cowdery) the second. It was on the fifteenth day of May, 1829, that we were ordained under the hand of this messenger, and baptized."
It's important to listen to and act upon those whispers which you feel are right, that's ultimately how God communicates with us.
Your home brother david...welcome to the true fold of Jesus Christ .
I love that David said he always tries to look for the good in all the churches he has been to. Brigham Young said that wherever there is truth found, there is the gospel of Jesus Christ. In our church, we have the fullness that has been restored. Whoever believes in Christ is for Christ and whosoever does not believe is against. We need more people to believe in this world where so many are going against. We are all on our own faith journey. Some have found The Church of Jesus Christ and some are still seeking.
God Bless you, brother! You are in for a real treat. Read the Book of Mormon! Thank you for being a blessing & for showing up!
The only thing he and all mormons are in for is the lake of fire for eternity. Repent!
@@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445 to quote the book of Mormon we invite all to “come unto Christ, and be perfected in him” (Moroni 10:32) Not just those that lived after Christ and those that here of Christ in this life.
You sound a mormon a lovely humble honest man keep intouch with the missionaries they have the Holy Spirit to lead you to Christ
It's interesting having an outsider's view on the LDS church.
Great shoe. Thought provoking. Left me wondering how my greeting new people affects others and how it has rippling effects. With Christ as our center we are so blessed to always improve.
Keep researching the church!! ~ good for you to not being afraid of that investigation... many are! And remember, we are all humans and do not always 'choose the right' in our patch of discipleship... Bravo!! If everyone did what you did, we would all have a better place to live!!
I have enjoyed hearing from David in this video and other videos of his.
Thanks for making this for us!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this video!
We got you! Thanks for watching!
I love “Spiritual Coincidences”
I LOVE free thinkers with prayerful integrity.
God bless this man's journey
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Wow, are you ever totally blind, lost, and deceived. Repent!
@@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445 while your index points at me, your others point at you
He who is without sin has no repenting to do....
Prayerfully think for YOURSELF
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@@guardianangel9517 ,...You have again only spoken in ignorance and have again exposed your totally blind, lost, and deceived state.
According to what you have tried to say here, no one can speak the truth of the Bible to another as they are sinners and should never try to tell the truth of the Bible to another being a sinner. So then, we should just through the Bible out according to what you have stated.
Repent, and learn what the truth of the Bible actually is.
I really enjoy listening to David Noice. I've seen several of his podcasts and I think it's really cool what he is doing.
Been waiting for this vid 🎉
I read the Book of Mormon, and I did not like the war chapters in Alma. Too much of the same thing. However, I loved 3 and 4 Nephi. I love Jesus, and it made him more real to me seeing his kindness to the people in the Americas.
I really enjoy David's videos and his sincerity of heart.
4 of the top 5 videos on his channel are related to the Church 😂 I really like his perspective though, love that he wants to open his own eyes and is sharing his journey with us
Fire concept.
David, i really appreciated your insight into the pattern of prophets leaving home and the connection to our missionary programme and the young elders (and sisters) who follow that same pattern. There's something about this pattern that feels ancient. All the best with your endeavors. God bless.
David is awesome, I can sense his open spirit. Do needed today
Thanks for brightening my morning today ☀️☺️
Watching your growth in all matters of filtering truth from deception and seeing the lords countenance grow in you has made me more joyful than most people I actually meet face to face.
Thanks for sharing every change and knowledge bomb.
I've seen you cringe at ideals that are truly far from the gospel to burst with passion as you receive testimony of truth.
Thanks for following the Cardinals.
Love this guy!!
This was very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Love these.
David, I have listened to many of your podcasts during the 52 in 52 journey. That has been most interesting how you have been objective displaying a genuine curiosity. I’m sure you have had many overtures to explore more about the LDS church than I can imagine. Let me make one more suggestion for your consideration. About 50 years ago, I read the book: Marvelous Work and a Wonder by LaGrande Richards. I have read it several times. While on a plane ride a few days ago, I was reading it again, and I thought about you and your quest for learning. The book does a wonderful job of describing many things in the LDS faith in a way that for me at least helps clarify so many rich doctrines and practices in the LDS faith. I just wanted to make that suggestion for you to read it if you can. Thanks so much for your great approach in your process! Perhaps a second round of the General Conference on April 6-7 may provide additional answers as well. May God continue to bless you! Kurt Southam
Wonderful❤️👍
It’s great to see he had a positive experience. The way the world is going we need more collaboration between faiths. More focus on values we share as opposed to fighting each other on the differences.
Thanks for the interesting videos ! hope good honest dialog continues
Best video and interview and video style that I've ever seen (shout out to Saints Unscripted and 52/52 both)!!! Thank you 52/52 and Saints Unscripted for all you have done, and giving such fabulous interviews and fast paced, entertaining, enlightening, veritable documentaries. I pray you'll keep going even after 52, even if you change to other genres, your vlogs will always be in hot demand, massive following!!! And thank you for risking your viewers seeing God alongside you, terrifying risk, that's the ultimate goal... of your work and videos, keep 'em coming, He just might!!! Thank you!!! And 23:23 time stamp "spoiler alert" following up comment from me about the ending of the book, what happens to the Nephites, I just want to remind everyone that while it's true what Cameron said about it being a tragic ending, it's actually a twist ending in that the Nephites were actually succeeded by "Nephites" not just Lamanites because in fact who are the Lamanites of the final chapters of the Book of Mormon but rather Nephites who had fallen away and started calling themselves Lamanites when in fact they were a mix, quite possibly primarily of Nephite decent. In fact, when the brethren stumbled upon one of the millions of skeletons scattered across the Great Lakes region of America on down the Mississippi valley and across, he said that it had been a Lamanite who was a Prophet of God who had lived on the western coast of America and had died in the final wars. And so, there were probably just as many Lamanites among the Nephites and who perished alongside the Nephites, as well as ample ancestral lineage Nephites who made up possibly a large portion if not all of the offending Lamanite armies and nations which wiped out the native self-identifying Nephite nation. And so it's a poetic last laugh by God, on those who identified as Lamanites and prided themselves on having wiped out the Nephites when in fact they may have themselves been Nephite ancestry and in fact wiped out the Lamanite blood just as well as Nephite to similar extent or more so. It just goes to show that it's never safe to raise an arm in violence because we always end up doing just the opposite of what we had intended and indeed when pointing the finger there are always three fingers on that person's hand pointing back at that person. During the initial passions that instigated the 2nd World War around 1938 in Europe, one such incident that incited the masses to destroy half the planet, was when a supposed decedent of the House of Judah shot a supposed citizen of such and such nation... when later it turned out that each of those two persons, their nationality, origin, religion etc, was switched, opposite that. Identically in the late 1800s there was a man who shot a US President, and at around the same time as that incident, but in a different city far way, the US President's son had fallen under the wheels of a rail car, when suddenly a man, by mere coincidence the brother of the assassin, rescued and saved the life of the US President's son (Edwin Booth/Robert Lincoln)! When we think we're hurting our enemy, it turns out to be our own who we've injured, maybe that's why Jesus said love and forgive everyone even our enemies... because it might turn out that they are in fact ourselves, our kin, our dearest friend, etc, etc. And if only the militias of those two states on that fateful morning, who surrounded that tiny jail cell in that tiny two story jail house, accosted 4 unarmed men (unless we count the 2 pepper-pistols as weapons which when fired point blank caused minor scrapes), locked in a jail cell, largely unarmed, by more than 100 state supplied, state armed (latest technology weaponry), state trained soldiers, had followed that motto of Jesus, they would not have slain innocent men, no-less the first and possibly only US Presidential candidate ever assassinated, who many experts say would've averted the Civil War and abolished slavery 20 years before anyone had ever heard of Abraham Lincoln (a thousand times better than how it was eventually carried out, dare I say slavery wasn't entirely abolished at all). And so in the end, don't we see that it's a twist ending, that poetic justice is served, and we find out later the fact, and fall to our knees uttering, truly Thine ways are just, and as Moses uttered, never before did I suppose that man is nothing, when shown all the planets of the universe. Hallelujah indeed! NOTE: The fact that Edwin Booth was tailing Robert Lincoln indicates far more reaching implications actually since coincidence doesn't exist. For anyone who never know about some or any of those historical events, you can learn more by simply googling it to the googler of all googlers none-other-than google itself, and enjoy! :-D
Good luck to all of you!
I’m sticking with the original thank you!✝️
I never have to think about my favorite story in the Book of Mormon. Captain Moroni and the title of Liberty. Thanks for the video.
This was such a neat video and story.
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Love this so much! Thank you for your friendship to our Faith!
Haha. I'm a dude who thinks the war chapters in the Book of Mormon are a drudge to get through.
Such a great interview. I love David Boice. Awesome guy.
Yeah. I never understood the Book of Mormon. I was told it would bring me peace. I cracked it open and started reading. It’s about war! What? Not just war. Genocide. Killing innocent children is ok? Like what is going on? Totally perplexing to me why this book has captured so many people. It’s like the Quran. Equally perplexing that so many people adhere to that book! Have you even read the Quran?
@Zeett09 Where in the world did you get that killing innocent children is ok in the Book Of Mormon? I've heard some doozies, but that one is perhaps the most outlandish. Everything in the Book Of Mormon tells you that genocide and killing children is NOT ok. Wow.
@@markjacobsen8335 really? 3 Nephi 8:9. 15 cities destroyed. All inhabitants killed including innocent children. Immoral behavior at its finest. Please explain how you support this behavior.
@@markjacobsen8335 I read 3 Nephi 8:9. It describes the destruction of 15 cities including innocent children. Straight up genocide. Why is that ok? Totally immoral, despicable behavior.
@@markjacobsen8335 my response keeps getting deleted. Just read 3 Nephi 8:9 and explain it.
Love this guy! I watch his videos!
Lehi's vision in the Book of Mormon, in both Lehi's rendering, AND Nephi's experience, we know is incomplete because they tell us so. While on my mission, my companion and I had an idea that with the "Great and Spacious, Building" and the mists of darkness and there also being forbidden paths, wondered if there would be messengers at those other paths with rods which were incomplete. (Between us, we called them "rubber rods").
Great show
Thanks!
Complex topic--that was my take too as a young 16 year old who joined the church by himself, went on a mission, served and raised a large family, before leaving it 20 years ago. Lots of good things (particularly the teachings of Christ), and most LDS members are trying harder to be good than anyone you will meet. I am grateful that I joined the church and experienced what I did (especially my mission, and my scoutmaster decades), and also grateful that I graduated from it and am living the life I live now. Lots to discuss about why I left. Just understand that there is much more to anything in life than first impressions, and it takes time to peel any onion.
Welcome!
David, would you consider doing 52 Wards in 52 weeks?
Oh my GOSH.. that’s a fabulous idea 💡
@@InAllThingsBearHisNamehe'd have to move to Utah or Idaho to get that many in driving distance.
Meh...also California'
Or Arizona
@@rdancranston but, he wouldn't even need to walk, let alone drive, more than 30 seconds per ward, in Utah county.
Very true!
By their fruits ye shall know them.
I agree the spirit is real you will feel the spirit
Hi very much love watching this platform as well as with David wanting to know about the church of Jesus Christ of the Later Day Saints just want you guys know I'm watching from Fiji in the Pacific Islands, ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏 Gb love the Gospel of Jesus Christ
I just want to know if David saw a cardinal when he went to conference ☺️. Jk. 😆 Glad you went to conference and felt the spirit. Good luck on your journey! My family were converts from all over. My husband and his family are converts. Love the gospel ♥️!
About the ending of the Book of Mormon, I like to remind myself that the story doesn’t end there. It continues on with the Joseph Smith Story.. and on and on from there. We are still in the story now.
I would like to add that it didn't end at Moroni it continued with the descendants of Lehi
Pure fantasy
The Gospel Of Jesus Christ is about serving God and serving others, what is there not to like?
I just checked what I wrote a few minutes ago and I made a mistake. I said “I can’😢 say with great fervor ….I meant to say I can say with great enthusiasm that I would do it all again. I love the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and its teaching.
David...I have enjoyed your content and really enjoyed you personally. You are a gentle giant. May I share that I know through the Holy Ghost that the Book of Mormon is true. There is a powerful spirit in that book that has blessed our family immensely. Joseph Smith was God instrument in bring it forward and in restoring the church and priesthood authority back on the Earth. I love you and wish you the very best in your journey to come to know and be like the Savior.
You need to have him back! If you have not see his latest video, he got baptized! I would love an update video!
Thanks
You're welcome!
Visit the southern lds church..
We add southern hospitality to it! But we believe all over the world The church of je s us christ of latter day saints
Favorite statement of the whole interview: “How can I reach out and be as Christ-like as possible?” That’s really the point of learning about any church, right? How does any church help with that goal?
Favorite Book of Mormon story:
1) so many!!!
2) 3 Nephi 12-18 = the BEST conference talk ever given with solutions to every problem I’ve encountered so far.
Thanks for this great gift today!
What is 3 Nephi?
The question to be asked: is the Church founded by Jesus himself some 2000 years ago?
@@lanbaodeLDS is tied to Freemasonry and has another Gospel and another Jesus. Just look at the symbols on the front of their Utah museum. Not a cross to be found but the all-seeing eye of horus, pyramid, Jesuit SUN symbolism and much more...
The top leaders of the Roman Catholic Church worship the Sun god of Babylon, which is ultimately Satan worship. They fulfill the prophecy of Mystery, Babylon the Great; as they worship the pagan gods of Babylon, under the guise of Christianity. No wonder this church is so closely tethered to Rome via Ecumenism.
@@ReadRomans10 what you know about the Catholic Church is just a caricature and and misrepresentation fed to you by your (false) teachers. The idea goes back to what is now a debunked anthropological theory by Alexander Hislop in his 1858 book The Two Babylons. It’s been repeated or amplified and spread by anti-Catholics since then but scholars today simply dismiss his claims as too unscholarly and just driven more by his antagonism (rather than scientific study) against Catholics. As you and your teachers hold this view, it just shows how outdated and stupid are your knowledge. Poor minds. Poor hearts (hate the Catholic Church). You can be smarter than that. To really know and understand what the Catholic Church officially teaches, go beyond your (false) impressions and perceptions molded by your (false) teachers. I invite you to take up and read the Bible side by side with the “Catechism of the Catholic Church.” And know that the Catholic Church is the original, true, and full Christian church founded by Jesus himself some 2000 years ago.
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"The question to be asked: is [it] the Church founded by Jesus himself some 2000 years ago?"
Yes, it is His church church that He restored some 2000 years ago after it had been, to a large extent, horribly corrupted during Old Testament times.
After that restoration some 2000 years ago and its flourishing for a while, the church again became corrupted because of reason of the Great Apostasy which ushered in the Dark Ages; or, more accurately, the Dark Age. But during the Great Apostasy, there certainly were a lot of people who tried their best to reform the Church back to what it was actually like when Christ had instituted it during His time with a majority of them ultimately failing but not for lack of effort but rather because they just didn't have any true power and authority given to them by Christ to restore His church again in the way He wanted and in His timing.
But, eventually, He did restore His church - or rather, more accurately, restored the true gospel since it was that (the gospel) that was taken from the Earth by the Father because of humanity's perversion of it while the church was left on the Earth - in the 1830s through Their authorized servant, Joseph Smith Jr to never be taken from the Earth ever again but to endure forever more from the time of the second restoration of the true gospel onward through all eternity defying every attempt by unhallowed hands to again try to pervert and even this time to destroy the true gospel with malicious lies, slander, calumny, defamation, denial, obfuscation, obscurement, outright threats of annihilation etc.
But the church will most positively come through virtually unscathed and burnished bright as if it had gone through a refiner's fire which, metaphorically speaking, it essentially has been going through, does now and will continue to do until the Great Jehovah Himself will say that "the work is done" similar to what He said to the Father while He (the Son) hung on the cruel cross of Calvary ie Golgotha when He finished His preparations unto all of the children of men ie mortal humans for their physical salvation given to them as a free gift. But also spiritual salvation which, unlike physical salvation, is not a free gift although it was freely given. Spiritual salvation is not a free gift because that's what Jesus Christ literally paid for with His blood, sweat and tears and so we must pay Him back for that price He paid and He asks us to pay Him back for it in really easy terms and conditions of donating our time, talents, skills, information, learning, knowledge, understanding, comprehension, wisdom and other such resources that we might have at our disposal for the building up of the Kingdom of God and HIS Christ here on the Earth.
Make any sense? I sure hope it does? God bless you and yours and take care.
I want to say Thank you to you, David. I agree with the other comments about your kind and interesting observations. I have enjoyed listening to you very much! So, I watched the temple tour video. I have some questions & thoughts.. you said you randomly found out that your great-grandfather was a member of the Church!?! That made me think that it must have sparked a myriad of questions for you like it did for me. Was it just him (how far back were your ancestors actually baptized members), what was that first conversion story? Did you ever find out more about that, like did he attend regularly? Did his wife? Why was your grandpa not baptized, etc.?
The other thing I was thinking was that it might be nice for you to attend another temple tour where people are quiet and where guides actually tell you some info about each area. My guess is that since you said you came kind of last minute and right before it closed that maybe they just didn't have the volunteers there anymore who were ready to say something (like its usually a 3X5 card paragraph they read aloud, or memorize & tell about the place, i.e. the baptismal font). Or maybe you could ask a member or a family to go through with you and answer your questions as you go along if no one is guiding again? Just a suggestion that might make it a little more of a rewarding experience xo
The quickest way to find the right church is to ask heaven father in faith and the holy spirit will manifest the truth to you think of your eternal life rather than an observation podcast heavenly father knows you heart and if you are saying the good and also intend to include the negative by your judgement your not ready god won't be mocked but its great you went along maybe the spirit led you I'm a latterday saint and we don't bother about talking about the negatives in other religions we just preach our own and allow all people to worship how where and what they may be prayerful fast i know the church is true and pray you will find this too thank you for your loving respectful beautiful spirit jesus loves you very much and will be your constant companion
I grew up in the United Methodist church, and young kids were put in the nursery during church services.