Why you should NEVER buy a SNAP-ON Scan Tool.
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2019
- I rarely post anything that is negative, but I felt the need to make this video after a very frustrating ordeal with Snap-On over the possible update of a Verus pro scanner.
While it's clear that Snap-On makes some of the best tools and scanners on the market, this level of customer support for such an expensive tool is totally unacceptable. - Jak na to + styl
Thanks a lot mate. I was just comparing tools this morning just to get the best way forward. No one seem to give such an insight about snap-on as you've just done. You've made my decision making easier now. I'm going the Autel way without giving it a second thought. Thank you very much.
Why did you choose Autel ? i'm looking into buying a scanner tool for my company. Since I dont have much experience in a workshop besides my intership since I left my education. Every car I have seen after that has bin in some friends shop or in my own.. witouth the fancy scantool stuff... Basically I have no idea what to look for
Great info on the Snap-on scanner and updates or lack there of.
Watching all of your video’s, I am a devote follower. You pack so much information into each one.
You explain things in an easy enough understanding way that it is not that the pieces fit together
like a puzzle. No, better that that, your explanations flow together in such a way, as you say it, that
we the viewers do not have to think about it because the understanding becomes immediately
apparent as you talk about everything that you message.
I live in a Condo, I pay monthly dues for lawn maintenance. I want to go out, buy an old lawn
mower to fix up and mow. I want to dig up my lawn cared for common area and plant something.
I have never smoked, I want to go buy a Cigar. I want to go buy a CB radio and install a 30 ft
antenna to loop from bumper to bumper on my car.
Keep the great video's and information.
Thanks for the nice comment about Charleston by the Glass.
Glad to hear from you old friend! Hope life is treating you well.
Thanks for taking the time to put this out there. I was considering a Snap-On scanner but now will look elsewhere.
Glad I could help
I'm always amazed that Snap-On hasn't been sued under the RICO Act.
snap on is a multi-million dollar company that can afford the best of the best attorneys so i'm not surprised, but i do understand his irritation.
They probably should be!
Very true! Also I've noticed they lack a lot of bidirectional features vs the competition.
Yeah their modular scan tools are a bit pricey and a headache for updating. The older snap on scanners with the personality keys were the only ones where you could buy every update and hold onto it.
I can understand your frustration, if it makes you feel better I'm personally using a MT2500 still lol. The snapon flustration gets 100x worse with second hand units. They simply wont do anything for you and tell you to upgrade. Looked at various units on ebay many are stolen or have liens on them still.
Hi! Thanks for sharing and good to know.
You mentioned other brands, so what would you recommend as a replacement to the Versus Pro but with a limited budget under $1000?
I seriously thought about buying a Verus Edge off the truck last week for roughly $2500 with a trade-in, was $4200. Our rep said it came with 1 free update. 2 guys I work with bought one each, I told him I would think about it. Oh man, am I glad I saw this. Thank you, sir. Techs need to know they are getting screwed with the software updates and planned obsolescence. Autel Maxisys Elite will move up the list of stuff to get, Snap On scanners come off.
I just had a Autel MaxiSys Elite ship in on Friday. Amazing scanner for the price!! It came with two years of free updates also. The few updates I had to do with the unboxing were easily done over my WIFI in no time at all. I will never own another Snap-On scanner ever again! Go with Autel. I don't thing you will ever regret it!!!!!
@@VanquisherUSMC I have heard nothing but good things about the Maxisys Elite. They have really stepped up their game in the last few years.
@@nitrowrench79 if you get it off Amazon, they have $250-$300 off right now and the two years free update. I needed mine fast so, that's the route I went. You may be able to find a better deal out there. It was sold directly through Autel on Amazon. Overnight shipping was only $20!
@@VanquisherUSMC Thanks for the advice, Darin. I hate spending too much money for stuff, then finding out after the fact. The nearly 2k off was a big red flag, kinda like their Epiq box sales. Mark em up super high, then slowly drop the price. Nice box, but very overpriced new.
@@nitrowrench79 Hi on autel how much you pay for update? and can I check all kind of cars like Audi, BMW, and Mercedes Benz with autel? thank you so much
Just bought the Apollo D9....very good for what it's meant to do. First time user, and I love it
We have the Zeus from Snap on. It seems that every update, something is REMOVED from the unit. Features that were there for a platform are now gone. I have actually scanned a vehicle, scheduled it to return, and when it returned an update had occurred in between visits. Could not communicate with the same modules!
Dang! With the Zues?!!?! Their 15k flagship tool. What a shame. I've moved on to OTC and Autel and haven't looked back. Not perfect, but a fraction of the price.
I have a Solus and if someone pointed this out to me before I wouldn't have bought it. This is great info that people should be aware of. Great video!
Glad I could help!
Long time viewer of your CB and blog vids, also new hire at Snap-on's Diangostics division. I'll ask our software team and management why we refuse to sell products we've already developed to our loyal customers. Thanks for raising this issue, Eric!
What did you end up with. I almost went with mid tier autel until I realized it's a glorified code reader with annual subscription. I guess you have to get the 1000 dollar units to get full functionality.
@@truthhurts2149 that's where I'm at. I had the MK808 since 2018. No issues. It helped me do oil resets on all Benz, BMW, Audi and Porsche with ease. I also coded some honda keys so more than a glorified code reader. My screen broke so I'm hesitant on sending it to new York where 2 dealers are that can fix it but its not the autel corporation. So I bought an MX808 on sale cuz i can't have downtime with a scanner but I realized it's not a bi directional tool. 1700-2500 is my budget so I'm looking at 906 or 908 models. Autels have scanners up to 4,000 dollars. More more the scanner more the cost to update it every year. Reading some Amazon reviews it's scary to think 1500-2500 tablets were dying after a few months so I haven't pulled on an expensive autel yet. Why can't there be a snap on quality company and customer service with autel prices.
@@rojacob9532 i guess Autel is popular. I bought a genisys evo and two older models intending to resale two for profit. I ended up getting a otc encore with 2021 update and a old modis 2013 update for the scope function for 700 bucks locally. So i will keep the evo modus and encore for my needs
Did you ever get an answer back from corporate on their policy for updating discontinued scanners with the most current update available???
Loved my Verus edge, but changed shops that has exotics such as Bentley rolls ferarri Lamborghini, doesn’t even cover R8s for audi ☹️ so I use my Autel 90% of the time now
I would agree 100 percent. I have been buying snap on scanners from day one. In the business over 45 years. Same thing happened to me. No support I fell at all. at least offer the last update.
This is very useful info. You just saved me from buying and getting into the wrong brand.
Glad I could help!
Thanks THANKS I was about to buy one tomorrow and you save me from making that mistake, they should stand behind their products
Ran into the same thing with a Ford Powerstroke. Ten years old and was told Ford no longer supports it. Had to find an aftermarket rebuilt computer online as they couldn’t even reflash it back to original. Basically all they wanted to do was sell me a new truck when the old one was perfectly good, just had a computer glitch because someone had put a aftermarket programmer on it.
Douglas Rykerd
Hopefully that dont happen to me! I have an 02 excursion with a 7.3 diesel. Previous owner had a programmer hooked up. Pretty awesome rig so far. Should last me forever since I dont drive it in the winter. What is your engine? 6.0 liter?
I don't blame you those scanners are $9000 new. A 1995 civic was $7800 new they still make parts for one.
Where the hell do y'all keep getting these figures? $9K? Nope not even close..
Oh sorry $22k. For the new Zeus. Are you looking at the used market for a versus??? New the scanner was $9000. Look it up.
Thank you for this video. I just made up my mind to NEVER GET A SNAP ON SCAN TOOL EVER AGAIN.
You are welcome! I wanted to make sure that no one gets screwed if they can help it
As an expert IT guy (and auto master tech)...this behavior would kill the whole IT industry...the last available update for an application from almost every company, is normally offered as „legacy versions“ or „unsupported versions“ somewhere on the vendors page....for free!!!
Scam-off Snap-on !
thanks for the information, is very valuable for a lot of people. and snap on is also to expensive. I was already suspecting that .
I started working professionally in 2003 and for years myself and many other techs didn’t buy a snap on scan tool until 10+ years later for one reason, the software. The snap on dealers told everyone that if you missed an update then you had to pay for it. So if you had a solus and were 2 years outdated it would cost you about the same price as buying a new solus. I got a new snap on dealer one day that had some older scan tools he was selling for next to nothing I picked up a solus pro he said $250 and I said I would buy it would cost so
Much to get updated because it’s so far out. He said that’s not true it’s $580 if it’s current or 5 years out. Every time I’ve gotten an update since the dealer tells me it’s more money and when I tell them what I know they do it for the standard update price.
Interesting. So they don't have to hit us over the head for those updates, but they sure try to. Thanks!
So what other brand is the "best," would you say? I'm in the market and doing research. I wanted the Snapon unit but probably not after your video because I am an independent mechanic. Thanks for your video.
I think the OTC Evolve is a great tool with great support. I have a video on it coming out in two weeks.
@@FarpointFarms Thanks.
I have the 21.2v april of 2021 update on my verus pro d10. I dont understand why you couldnt update yours
I noticed the Yugoslav ad in the background. My first new car was a 1986 Yugo.
Our family had one back in the early 90's. Hope the little guy's still kicking somewhere.
My Dad had a 1984 Yugo. :)
i am yugo
will you lose some functions on snap on Apollo d9 if you didn't update?
I have a Snap-On Modis Ultra , a $ 8,000 dollar plus tool , the update is number 19.4 , and is the last available one for this unit , at a cost of over $ 1,300 bucks , W.T.F. Snap-On . I have bought their tools , boxes , scanners , and merchandise for over 35 years . N E V E R A G A I N will I purchase any kind of Snap-On diagnostic tools , I said A N Y . Just sick of them scamming , and ripping us off with discontinued junk . I couldn't sell this with all its paperwork , and perfect packaging for the cost of the software update . Absolutely junk .
Snap On makes the best scan tools for all around use for the average mechanic. They charge about 3 times what they are worth though and only sell them using the, “It’s only $40 a week for 5 years,” sale technique.
I have 4 different brand scanners, with the worst being a Launch Torque that shit the bed after less than a year. Turned out to not be the bargain it seemed early on.
I've never owned a Launch, but A co worker had one. It wasn't top of the line, but it seemed OK.
Snap on machines last, ha dmine for years with no issues. Autel and launch aren't even close on durability or user interface. It's down to preference really.
Do I have to update my snap on scanner every year. I’m wanting to use it for reading motor and transmission codes and live data. I know updates will let me access newer models and such. Can I get away with a update every 3-4 years
what they have been doing is that you will pay for all the years even if you update it every 3-4. If your last update was good through 2018 and you next update it in 2022 you pay for 2019,2020 and 2021 years. That is why I am not a fan at all. Maybe if they change that I might change my mind.
If only Milwaukee made scanners
They'd be cheap plastic shit made in Chinaland like their other tools
What scan tool would you recommend? I'm just a DIY guy with a Snap On Solus Pro, currently it won't read either my vehicle or my wife's, and as you mentioned no update available. I'd really like to be able to use this but seems unattainable. Any recommendations?
I love this tool: czcams.com/video/KkjbKAL_L2E/video.html It's everything a good pro level scan tool should be at a decent price, and it comes with 2 years free updates. Got mine on Amazon and use it every day!
Thats all I needed to here thank you.
Thanks for the information, very valuable for Tech's.
glad I watched your video I'm thinking about buying the new "solus legend" just for personal use, my extended warrantys are about to expire on my vehicles
I have the scanner... it’s an excellent scanner.
Solus is for the general tech.if u are really a technical mechanic at least do a modis
I got a used Solus Edge off snap on guy last year. Not to happy with it, mainly got it to watch balance rates on my duramax. Tried it on many vehicles and always seem to resort back to old school testing. Whip out the old $20 Actron for code reading and resetting every time. I mean you can roll the windows down, beep the horn and everything. But as far as testing say "EVAP" stuff or bad "cat's", your basically going to fall back to visually inspect and testing each component. I have wasted countless hours on the Solus Edge tryn to figure stuff out. Another problem is you can't change anything, you can't fix a used instrument cluster to match miles, you can't turn off EGR completely, you can't program headlights or door locks or chime. ☹️
Wow I was Supossed to pick one up tomorrow from my snap on guy, why would you make a great quality product if you wont stand behind it
What would be a better alternative? I’m thinking about going to school to become a mechanic.
Autel and Launch both make tools that are equal to this for 1/4 of the price. I replaced this with a Launch scanner and it is great!
Just updated my verus pro today. Maybe because i buy alot of snap on tools. Not sure why you could not. I went from 18.2 to what ever im at now
Can the update be found on warez/p2p site?
If you find it let me know! I've never seen one, but maybe a Snap-on dealer uploaded it somewhere.
Anything that has "Snap-on" stamped on it you can guarantee the price will send you to the hospital. I was at a yard sale a few years back and found a complete set of (6) six, Flex head open end Metric wrenches (FHOM) with the plastic separator tool box rack and paid like $6 bucks for the complete set. When I got home, out of curiosity I looked them up online, and the friggen wrenches retailed for $400+ bills, needless to say I filled up my britches 😝
100% true! I got a set of ratcheting wrenches from a pawn store for $99.00 got home and check and the dang things were over $400 new! NOT WORTH THAT!! Nice set for the money I spent though!
Maybe because the person you bought the snap on tool from has no idea how much they are worth!
@@1998gst4611 It also has to do with people not being willing to sit on something indefinitely. If it's a pawn shop, in particular, they want to move products not sit there on the stuff. Snap On tools are quality tools, as long as you don't make the mistake of buying their cheap chinese sh*t. I've never bought Snap On stuff from their trucks though. They're too interested in gouging people in my book.
Can I get a update on my brick
i have a verdict d7 13.2 update and i need a 14.2
My verus pro is 19.2 an I can get this year's update yet I was just on the snap on truck an discussed this very topic on my verus pro
Snap on isn't tool company they are a loan shark franchise.
@FrugalPrepper's.... Does "Snap-On" offer medical insurance???....lol. after seeing their prices, visits to the emergency room are a common side effect.
@@thevacuumtubejunky9774 Snap-On Care. You pay $10K for a Dr. Visit and pay $53 a week for the rest of your life! LOL
Truck credit for life!
What about the otc encore? Also I really need a copy of that ngis software for my genesisWhere to get it
send me an email and I'll send you the link.
I’ve never had an issue with any snapon product I’ve bought including my scanners
Tell you another reason. They were being sold here in uk and I had one for a week trial. Cars I worked on it could not find. Had no support for 20 year old uk cars. Popular in their time too. 5 different cars it could not find. Then whilst plugged in the cigarette lighter and switched on, it consumed more power on than the cigarette lighter could put out. So at one point the device shit down because of empty battery. Yep even though it was plugged in charging. Easiest scan tool as a mobile mechanic I have found so far is my Autel MX908
I am sorry that you had bad luck too with it. I guess the updates are more geared towards the US market. Some of the Autels are good units
Selling it for uk market when 5 random cars of different makes it could not scan, well thats poor.
Autel is on android system. Minutes from plugging in you can have live data showing basic engine pids. Today on nissan almeira for customer it was ok but no body control connection which was annoying.
Snap on. They want to be the best in everything. Not in scan tools for sure.
When the update goes in to the snap on persons computer, it overwrites the previous software. They have no control over it fyi. When it comes out, such as 18.2 over 17.4, it is gone forever to the dealer. Sorry
I was never able to find a dealer that still had the older update. The unit has since been sold as a result and we upgraded to a Maxisys 980DS
WOW, thanks man for the warning, was going to buy a snap-on scan tool.
They really are great scan tools, but they also suck as a company. It's too bad. OTC makes some good stuff these days.
@@FarpointFarms I just bought a used snap on verus pro d10 on ebay for $2,0018.25 it is until now i'm hearing bad reviews about this and the kinda b.s. snap does to its customers not just this model in paticular but all their other line of brand models. I'm also hearing there are a lot of things that the snap on scan tools can't do or don't have like its competitor manufacturers. If i know this too much of a trouble i would have not purchase this i'm just a small one time person don't a garage business not an ASE certified professional mechanic this is just for my personal use at home on my cars. I wanted a good professional branded scan tool and i thought of snap on being the best only to be let down in confidence on this tool.
So my understanding, what are you trying to saying is after few years your scanner becomes worthless , after you paid top dollar few years back so now 5 or 6 years later you have buy a new one and pay top dollar again. I may be wrong.
Wrong on the missed update payment... My SnapOn rep only!!!! Charges you once for the update. Regardless of how many you miss
Very sad sometimes you don’t need updates but yes you should be able to get it after the fact. Some guys need to save up that money. .
Exactly. I have my personal scan tool, the OTC Genisys that I've had for years and I just now finally updated it to it's "Final" update the 2015 Loyalty update. What if OTC had just said the heck with it and dumped it. I would have been stuck with a tool that works fine but was only good to 2011. For $400 I am able to use it as my main tool for a few more years.
THAT IS WEIRD BECAUSE MY VERUSPRO HAS THE LATEST UPDATE ITS A 20.4
This was 4 years ago now the pro link edge is out when you buy licenses it’s for life free updates
The Zeus is still playing the same games. Same with the Apollo.
This is a common frustration I have heard from all the snap on scan tool owners i know. It's been going on for years. What the reps say is that to stay current, you need to pass the cost onto the customer but in the workshop, The money you need just doesn't stack up for what you have to charge a customer to recoupe.
Is there anyone who can spare communication software for snap-on scanner mtg2500 ?
100% agreed. Learning my lesson right now. They are telling me I need to upgrade to the Zeus In order to use the inline features or update my verus pro for 1,000 so I can use the online features for 6 more months. So pay 2,000 a year and keep it updated or upgrade to a new scanner that costs 13,000!!! There should be laws against this kind of stuff.
I am sorry that you are learning that lesson- There are some great options out there that are a way better value.
Sweet and to the point
The only use I got out of that tool was in the begining with the original software after that they turned an expensive tool into a piece of crap
So what other Good Brand you Recommend me 😌 ????
That an then when u wanna trade up they offer you $50 for your trade in and want a full pop for there’s, you can go with Autel, launch, topdon for a fraction of the price and do more
Yup! When you buy Snap-on, they think it's gold. When you try and sell it back, they say it's trash!
Thank God I saw this video before pulling the trigger on a new snap on scanner. I was going with either the modis or zues.. nevermind!! Autel maxisys it is!!
Love my Zeus
Hi , VERY ! Very TRUE !!!! You Miss a " Software Update " ,,, Your SCREWED !
Good information, i was about to spend big money on snap on, thank you
Glad I could help
Jesus Christ my Modis hasn't been updated since 2014 I might as well start it on fire it's a shame shame on them thanks Eric
I know this is irrelevant to the modern era but I was thinking of buying a MT 2500 for my 87 corvette OBD1. Bad Idea? I know nothing about it's quality.
if your buying the scanner for that particular car then buy it. MT2500 or the Mt2500G are pretty cheap.
The subject here is future upgrades and their rules to upgrade and lastly the situation that your scanner becomes 'Orphaned' with no upgrade path...much like Apple computers in a sense.
@@dionkraft6782 Thanks for the reply I sold the car for the 'big profit.' Probably going to buy a C6 Z06 when prices fall.
Yeah I'm hearing you, lets just see how long they keep it up. When you see this behavior, words like "extortion" "profiteering"and "abandonment" spring to mind, and I can't see this practice being a long term way of keeping customers. You reap what sow.
They stalk the shops like predators, they practically have a monopoly on the automotive tool industry, and they finance mechanics who may otherwise be marginalized by financial institutions with the amount of money they finance, especially when starting out. As much as they rape their customers and take advantage of them, they have the support of the automotive industry as a whole. Shame.
Shame on me for not watching your video prior to my first comment below, but when I read the title that contained the word "Snap-On" I immediately knew the video was going to contain something negative about Snap-on and I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU 1000%. If that isn't a SCAM, then I'am a Flying Dutchman, and I'am Not DUTCH. What company doesn't support their own product???... Oh... "Snap-On"..pppffttt... silly me. I just have to ask, not trying to be NOSEY but, what does that Scan tool retail for?, if you have no comment, I totally get it.
Thanks for sharing your miserable experience with us...lol. great video though Erik.
Kind regards, Eric Dee.
They are currently selling used for 5K !!! New this thing set our shop back $14K with all the attachments. Add at least 1.5K per year since 2010 for updates and you start to get the feeling we got screwed from the start.
@@FarpointFarms Holy crap!!!, screwed is putting it mildly, and Snap-on doesn't support it's upgrade???....DAMN, What sort of garbage is that ??? That's unreal, How companies like that stay in business is beyond me.
so what do you use now?
Launch 431 is a great tool
I agree you folks! Peoples who buy Snapon scanner they’re through away money!
I have been using Launch and Autel in the pasted years! I’m happy Laugh and Autel.
Thank you for the info, Farpoint, I always have perceived the overpriced that are the Snapon tools. However; I never have had such a fresh info, about the why this shameful trick concerning the dealing with them, because you are practically chained, buying such a stuff. A grateful greeting from Mexico. My name is Arturo Nuñez Dorantes, .I wish you the very best of the life. Thanks again.
I agree , I also have a verus and im feeling pretty fucked over. Not on the update but on parts for it. And the stonewalling they do they just want me to buy a new scanner
Your right Eric I was a mechanic. Too. They want you buy the latest and quickly obselet the old it's thier money maker greedy but sad. Bad business ethics....Don
I want to give them the benefit of the doubt here, but there is no valid reason they can't offer these "final updates" for years after they stop supporting a product. OTC does it, Mac does it, Matco does it. I have to say it is a poor business choice on their part.
Yes thier shooting themselfs in the foot .Have to remorgage your house when you step in the snap On truck...😫😀
I bought a snapon solus and ever since they up dated the software it got worse and worse it dont get into the cars it used to and then some of them it will only get into the engines and they tried several up date's and none of them worked i will never buy snap on again
I'm just now coming across this Video but what is being spoken is the truth just recently I was on the truck and dealer even stated to me exactly what is being verbally demonstrated in this video and it was said to me that more than a few major expensive scan tools will be discontinued due to SNAP-ON will now not be providing new updates for particular models so there for the ppl who have purchased these scanners have dropped thousands of dollars on + including yearly Updates will no longer be able to have them updated within the next following yr so there investment is just a solid Brick and the Dealers are not excepting trade ins on them....their best bets are to salvage them now and get what they possibly could get for them now before it's to late
I’m a workshop owner with a modus ultra and I’ll be honest I would never invest in another. The updates are just not liable to constantly spend the outrageous update cost each time they bring out a new software update. Not only that I find the tool to be too basic. It doesn’t have a lot of functionality compared to other scan tools on market. I will be cutting my losses with the snap on tool and buying another brand instead of updating this one to its current update.
I'm actually looking a purchasing an Ethos Edge from an online auction.....maybe I just let this one go for now. lol!
This information is out of date. They do 2 updates a year, and you are not required to buy the ones you miss. I just upgraded yesterday 16.4 to 19.4. Should remove the video or at least update it.
You lose your warranty on the tool if you don’t. And I assure you you need the warranty. Mine costs me $3800 to fix after it stopped working and the board had failed. Some how because I missed updates I lose the warranty. This scan tool in a waste of money.
@@phase3ute I can buy another one used on eBay cheaper then another update or warranty fix. The subscription wasn’t worth it as the updates are twice a year and fairly meager. It’s only worth updating the tool every few years there’s no point to have 2021 all those cars are going to be dealer warranty.
Working in a collision shop I needed every update before they even came out. My coworker had the autel and he was always far behind me on the ability to scan the new cars.
I have my issues with Snapon
But think of how the windows 98 users felt when Microsoft dropped support on their website.
What about the iPhone users that lost support for the 32 pin connector and had to upgrade to the lightning connector?
These choices have to made when you run a software company. You’re three hardware versions behind the curve, it was bound to happen.
I would do the same thing to you if I was Snap-on, maybe offer you a good trade in, but ultimately I would say “you device is ten plus years old, it’s not cost effective to manage legacy equipment.”
discontinued support to a product is one thing, and not offering the last available update is another, if so a customer should choose i do not see why he couldn’t download the latest update from their website and instal it for a fee.
Lol I would’ve said that a couple of years ago now I’m about to get my Apollo d9 I currently have a solus ultra and it’s an amazing scanner I haven’t updated it and I won’t that’s why I’m just trading it in for the new one they’ve been awesome
At least get a modis
Don't blame you
Keep up the good work
Thank you for the kind words
So what tool do you suggest?
I'm using a launch 431x and love it.
@@FarpointFarms Does that support diesel engines? Do you have a video on the Launch product by chance?
@@FarpointFarms I appreciate the video. Thank You. Looking to upgrade from a 2016 Maxisys MS908. Considered a used Solus Ultra or Verus Pro but now I'm rethinking. I've looked at Launch and the new Autels and TopDon. How did you decide on the Launch 431X and not one of the others? Thank you for your time!
All I want is a damn scanner that will bleed my ABS module on my 2006 Toyota Tacoma I bought a foxwell NT650 and it only bleeds a few valves in the module. Any suggestions on scanners for my issue
Its running windows xp. It does not run like it used to.
THANKS 👍
As a cnc programmer/operator for milling machines, I have done back ups any time I create a new program or make changes. That way if something happens to the memory, we are going again in minutes with current programs. Back ups are saved by the date. My point is, snap on has that last file, and it should be available to anyone who wants it. Great way to lose business. They used to have a pin that went through their half inch swivel ratchets, and new ratchets now is screwed in, which has backed out many times and if you dont catch it and re-tighten it, itll come out while using it, bending the joint all to hell. They tell us to put loctite in there. We still have old pin type ratchets that have had zero issues. Alot of times, new isnt better!
Very true. I'm glad I'm not the only one pissed about stuff like this.
@@FarpointFarms
I emailed snap on about their ratchet swivel screw design problem, and they just passed it on to the local tool rep. He cant fix the issue! Maybe the old school snap on engineers retired.
Very true, in most cases the new built weaker so it breaks quicker so you run back to them to spend more. It's a shame
Thank you, will never invest in one.
That is shameful. Autel is a brand that is now giving Snap on a run for its money.
Can u change the the coding for a battery on bmw on this, I borrowed this from a friend of mine, old battery was 90 ah , I bought a 80ah can't find a way to change this only register the battery, can this be done on this scanner ?
WOW!!! I'm sure glad I saw this. I was just looking at a few Snap-on scan tools that were not the latest versions of software and the mechanic told me, "Yeah just call Snap-on, they'll get you updated to the last version the device supports" NOPE!!! Whew! And to think, I almost bought a $2500 paperweight!!! No thanks Snap-on, I'll pass.
I am glad I could help you with this. There are many other companies out there with scan tools that will work for you just fine
I know a guy that can update any snap on scanner that is no longer supported by Snap on.
Now that is a good guy to know!
Well done and well said. Snap on ain't a mechanic's friend by any stretch. I never saw a more predatory operation. They have been selling to the US Government too long and think everyone can throw money out the window,
Agreed.
Agree, they seem to think $500 toilet seats are okay the way they behave.
I agree!
Imma play devils advocate here for a second. First how long did you own the tool? Also how much money do you feel you made with the tool relative to other tools you could of bought?
It was a fine tool. It's just shady not to offer a final update.
@@FarpointFarms Yea I understand that also I believe that was a OTC tool in a snap-on case. I am currently trying to decide between either a Launch or Autel tool. Now Snap-On is a bit pricey for me just being a teacher.
@@lesterburkes5962 Snap on is definitely pricey, but having used autel scanners, I'd gladly pay the extra money for snap on. Autel scanners are ridiculously flawed. Bad data, wifi issues, as well as false trouble codes. The real kicker is the operating system. The autel scanners are supposed to be a "modern diagnostic tool", but operate on android 4.4. That's an 8 year old operating system, which is a complete and total joke. I seriously don't get all the hype with autel. They're not that great. Hell, they're not even good.
Hello Farpoint farms
I am looking for a scanner and was thinking of buying the snap on zeus because it has the intelligence software that will make it a bit easier to use the scanner, I'll be using the scanner for family and friends and my own cars. Now that I seen your video that made me think of not buying and they are expensive. What scanner would you guys recommend me? Pleased let me know thank you.
And to add if you don’t update it’s worthless junk, updated it’s quality. Bidirectional functions come in handy but 99.9% it’s on my autel
Thanks for this great info,
I'm new to the automotive industry, been doing Electronics in depth for more than 30 years, which scan tool do you think I should buy ?
Thanks again:)
Autel's 908DS is a great tool for the price. I also like OTC's encore, but it's a little more $$ than the Autel.
@@FarpointFarms Thanks! appreciate your reply :)
@@imadjawad4408 No 1 tool does it all ,remember that....you end up owning a few of these things.....
Autel ms906bt $1200 updates $600 just buy a new one every two years. Still save $10000
Bunch of liars & money hungry people put snap on name & reputation in trash. Shame on will be the name not Snap on !
thank bro it does count for me