Beating Hearts Of Iron 4 The Way The Developers Intended
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Hello and welcome to a look at some of the pointless and broken stuff still in Hearts Of Iron 4 that hasn't been updated or messed with much since the game released.
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Tfw Mussolini's orders are a better guide than developer guide
NEED. MORE. PLANE
@@ArariaKAgelessTravellerNEED. MORE. FUEL
“Build TEEENY TIIINEY tabkies!”
@@ArariaKAgelessTravellerThe moment you're almost last country on earth with airforce of 15k fighters etc. and Mussolini is like: 200 more planes!
@@davidjarolimek7816 Especially love it when you wanted to go heavy fighters and them not counting towards that goal, so you have to make a really shitty regular fighter.
Who is this and why does he sound like ISP???
He's ISPs evil stepbrother
He’s one of the voices in ISP’s head
@@ciphergacha9100Pssssst play communist Norway
@@SekurusTheProudViking never
He also sounds like that ISorrowproductions guy idk tho, need more research on that
3:17 - 1936, Italian Africa: “Ethiopian forces today surrendered to a giant arrow found hovering over the capital of their country. Italian forces have no idea where the arrow came from, but happily accepted their surrender, while taking credit for it.”
We want democratic Mengkukuo
i can relate
why does youtybe alowe me to translate this to english. is this not allrede english?
@@Nice.Creeper Maybe it doesn't understand "Mengkukuo"
World qonquest
@@typicaluser697 mabye but when i clikke the translate its still the same :D
It's really fitting that you play italy in you "first game" since you will be almost as incompetent as the really deal
It’s all toward historical accuracy and “immersion”. Even your emotions will be matching the sense of utter failure that Italians in real life felt after the war. SO immersive!
if the shoe fits
Heh. HOI4 Italy is my spirit animal since I never progressed much beyond *that* state in 4.5k hours.
I am in severe need, but I don't know of what.
Oh i got a story about paradox tutorials.
I followed the tutorial of Vicky 3 with Belgium.
I ended up in civil war.
Literally did exactly what the tutorial wanted me to do.
paradox gods punishing belgium
Me too😂
the tutorials are written for people who want to end up in the psych ward.
Less than one minute in
Me: "There's a mini-map?!?!"
Yes yes there is. There's even an in game clock that displays the current time in your desktop.
you're blind?
dlc content lmao
@@albinskold8792 You have to enable it
@@Gencrossbones wait this is so cool! how do i activate the clock please
When I first did this tutorial it took me 2 HOURS to get thru it properly. It took me a solid 200 hours to understand wtf I was doing at all and could win a war with a middle power as a major. Almost 3k hours later and I’m still terrible at the game. At least I use the button in the war menu to show me who the majors are and don’t hover over a major nation to see who else I have to capitulate in 1952!
I wanted to become monarchist and join the allies. I had no understanding of combined arms, or economy management, or that I could recruit more than one regiment at a time. I thought I had to choose between recruiting a "tank" or recruiting a "company". The result was me backstabbing the Axis and trying to push through the Alps with a human wave. I felt glorious ... until the German army turned up.
Suffice it to say, I quickly found out about exile governments, enemy naval invasions and paratroopers. It was a fun game (mostly from watching the Brits and Germans toss Rome between each other, like a cheap dockside whore). Because I hadn't made any units, the Allies hilariously gave me all the land that they captured to occupy around the world. It was fun seeing Italy spread over unexpected parts of the map...until the peace conference arrived and spoiled my fun.
The devs intended the RAT to beat Hoi4. RAAAAAT
does the rat mean RATtanakosin empire (siam formable)
the S in ISP stands for Sloppy
I'm Sloppy Productions
The P actually stands for Provider
I'm Sloppy Provider
Internet Service Provider
@@_kitaes_NO
@@jimtalbott9535?
@@jimtalbott9535Bro hates Internet 😭
Don't think I've forgotten about you doing that "How to Play Victoria 2" Guide, Mr. Magic Map Man. Always loved your Vicky2 content, want to see more someday
Best advice I can give for this game is to hover your mouse over icons on the hud/map. Usually it will tell you what you can do with it plus some controls.
HOI4 developers: We should make some tutorial for new players our game is complicated they need to learn slowly how to play
Also HOI4 developers: Hey you play as Italy in the tutorial! The Italy that immediately start a fucking war at the fucking start of the game. A war that brings 1000000 more game mechanics straight away.
Well, it didn't when they made 10 billion years ago.
Before some updates winning the war was just extremely easy, with no Air, just the units at the front,
They should change the tutorial nation to Germany (although with the next DLC that might be a bad idea)
either that, or they should just revert Italy back to their old content (not just the smaller non-DLC version of the new focus tree, they should have the pre-DLC one) for the tutorial to not overwhelm the new player with mechanics
It was way easier back then. Ethiopia was like the Lv.1 tutorial enemy in an RPG where you couldn't possibly fuck up. Paradox made it into a legitimate challenge over the years.
@@chrystales6169 indeed as Italy even with the old focus tree, you could roll over Ethiopia extremely quickly, now with By Blood Alone, the Lion of the Horn has a much stronger bite
I’m so glad ISP is finally learning the game! You’ll get up to Alex the Rambler levels one day ❤❤
4.5k hours. I'm not even close to ISP's levels 💀
Got a long, long way to go.
I actually used the tutorial the first time I played HOI4. I got extremely paranoid over supply for some reason, and I spammed level 5 railways and supply hubs in Ethiopia.
And i somehow didn't annex Aussa and I was still fighting Ethiopia in 1938. But I did micro my divisions since that's what I saw in CZcams videos.
Played the tutorial for 5 minutes then started a New Zealand game instead. I don't know why.
I ain't gonna lie, i learned more about HOI4 mechanics through watching your videos, Taureor, Mountain General, and Alex The Rambler
Well yes, they actually show you how to win, not piss around in Ethiopia letting your entire army starve to death.
So true. They tell you what to do and how to.
Also, FeedbackGaming, he even has videos where he shows most of what he does in the game, not just his strategy
Like I said, after EU4, the priority for paradox 'tutorials' isn't to teach you to play the game but to drag out the time you spend 'learning' so that you cannot refund the game.
Wow
Didnt work for me, played the tutorial and was losing in ethiopia after which i just quit the game and refunded it.
Didnt know what was going on, why i was losing or why the tutorial just said "conquer it lol" without any other help or info.
@@althedude7730 then you were sensible.
That's... actually evil.
@@althedude7730 zoomers really are dumb
I find it interesting how the tutorial has more updates than most focus trees, yet still sucks
Then again... Updates in general kinda suck nowadays
(Looking at you 70 day focus to build a railroad)
Why can't we have updates like the ones that gave us the better air system? Just quality updates
0:30 wait until you see old school hoi (Hoi2/DH and Hoi3, only played DH personally).
I feel so much better about being confused by the tutorial now XD
Yeah don’t worry about it, it literally sucks. The best way to learn is by clicking all the icons until you start doing things (at least that’s how I learned)
The rat always beats games the way the developers intended. RELEASE THE RAT
I remember doing the tutorial for CK2 where it had me playing as Castile trying to take over the Canary Islands from some native nation or something. Did everything it told me to do up to the point of actually fighting… because the tutorial didn’t tell me how to disembark my soldiers from my ship. And then, when I figured it out, despite having a numerical advantage, my soldiers inexplicably lost every fight. Haven’t played since and moved on to EUIV, which has a similarly atrocious tutorial, but nothing quite so mind-numbingly tedious and baffling. The worst I can remember is the tutorial not telling you to hire a general for your army and having you play as Venice to learn about trade, even though literally every nation on the planet deals with trade to one extent or another, and Venice isn’t a beginner-friendly nation.
Yeah, i own EUIV, and Ive not put alot of time into it because I suffered through the tutorial (the worst part about paradox tutorials is the massive text boxes you need to read - my friend who doesnt play alot of strategy games brought them up after doing the Cities: Skylines tutorial) and I just cant play very well. The game isnt exactly pretty either, so I just dont have hte passion to play it like I do HOI IV. I dont think I need another game to get fixated for 900 hours on anyway
ah yeah naval invasions in CK2 does immediately cut your army's morale in half, and I'm pretty sure the Canaries start as African pagans and thus have +80% defence and morale on that home turf
@@Hesstig
At least the CK3 tutorial is somewhat comprehensive. Probably because CK3 is probably the simplest game (mechanics wise) that Paradox has ever made, so it would be harder for them to mess it up. You are the Irish Duke of Munster and the tutorial instructs you in taking over Ireland.
@@Hesstig I believe they were just Sunni when the tutorial was written. Pagans hadn't really been introduced into the game yet.
I was very gullible when I did the tutorial. I remember marvelling about how Paradox must have had to research all the courtiers for minor nobility to fit all these characters in game. I also wondered how they managed to find enough historical portraits to create accurate likenesses for all the people in each start date. Ah! There's nothing like being a virgin paradox gamer! (Take that how you will)
Venice in ck2 or eu4?
1k hours in HOI and I just now find out THERES A MINIMAP?
germans: *uses radios on all their tanks*
USSR: 🚩🏴🏴🚩🏴
I tried the tutorial twice and refunded the game both times. The third time I bought hoi4, I just jumped into a game and it turned out to be fun
I played the tutorial 4 years back with old Italian focus tree and it actually helped me. I just needed a few basics to get going and learned the rest along the way. The tutorial was built for the base game so it doesn't include navy. There should be more specialized tutorials.
Shift left click on that notification selects all unassigned units? WTF WHERE WAS THAT INFO 1,000 HOURS OF PLAYTIME AGO
Always try clicking buttons with shift and/or alt, you'll know much more
thats on you ngl
You poor soul
Oof man
my man, I am more shit than you in this game, but it actually says how to assign the unassigned divisions with shift and left click.
I like the new camera angles you're using on this channel!
Not forgetting there are a lot of very-non-standard hotkeys and mouseclicks for actually moving troops around to orders, and which orders (Default field martial front lines are trash, etc) are actually useful for what purpose, too.
Reminds me of that hoi4 IGN review that only played the tutorial.
ISP can you do a review of every naval tree in Hoi4
Since those are usually the most ignored parts of the tree, it would be a funny seties
You telling me I can select all unassigned units by shift clicking the alert has taught me more than the tutorial
Played the tutorial when the game came out in 2016 and it was pretty fine then
an in depth guide from isp would actually be great, haven't played the game in a loooong time and really wanna get back into it but it's so daunting to try and learn all the new dlc's and other added content
You can't escape our want for the Rat ISP. No matter how many channels you make. GIVE US THE FUNKY JAZZY RAT FUNNY CZcams MAN!
IS THE RAT HERE TOO???MM
I gotta say, I really enjoy this channel. It's a nice calm and relaxing vibe where I can learn some neat tips I never thought of, while still having ISP's personality present. What a time to be alive ❤
WHERE IS THE FOOT REVEAL ???
Not denying that the tutorial is kinda bad, but I understand why they didn’t add in stuff for navy and air. Both of those play very differently depending on if you have the DLC or not (had a buddy who only bought the base game)
Honestly, a good way to learn even without tutorial is to play the bare, base game without all the extra mechanics.
Should enable them as you go for a better experience.
I remember playing the tutorial for HoI 3. I couldn't even defeat Poland and uninstalled
I remember trying to beat the tutorial years ago. I never beat Ethiopia.
13:00 that explains a lot about the community's knowledge on navy
Navy is easy too, once you figure it out.
Ofc it didn't say anything about field marshals
Because at the time they were only generals who could command more divisions
Zamn how much changed
When you've finished the main quest but realize you skipped the tutorial
13:20 I presume they didn't include that because they made the tutorial around the base game and not the dlc content.
Thank you for showing me how to finally beat my mortal nemesis, the HoI4 tutorial!
I've played over 2600 hours of hoi4 and still stuck around to watch ISP lecture me on how to play.
With 4.5k hours, and still rather low skill, the one thing that I feel helped me step up my game a lot is: Differentiate between front-filler units, and attack units. Attack units can even be 9/4's, but fill the front with 6 or 9 inf divisions depending on your industry level and who you're fighting.
Using this method, I feel like I can finally play, and not just lose, or win with ridiculous losses of people and equipment.
The rat could teach you HOI4 infinitely clearer and with practice.
Bring him back!
My best advice for new players is to click on all the buttons on the screen and search for tutorials on CZcams for everything you don’t understand, and choose a major nation that isn’t too important as a start (Italy is the perfect choice in my opinion) and do a casual playthrough where you just try to survive. It takes hundreds of hours to understand the game, so don’t worry if you don’t immediately understand everything, and most importantly have fun!
I have over 3500 hrs in hoi4 and didn't know about the mini map
I would love to see iSorrow do a tips and tricks thing. Small stuff that helps make the game generally a more enjoyable experience. Like shift-click on the division notification to select all of them at once.
can confirm i tried to learn hoi4 a week ago and the tutorial has taught me nothing
all i learnt was to go with my gut and just click on things that seem good
also make the good mans do the funny circle thing but don't let the bad mans do the funny circle thing
works for me so far
Back around DoD when i bought the game, the way I learned how to play was watching ISP, Alex the rambler, and then playing as germany.
Its now my most played game and I have 1600 hours in it
Welcome to the club 💀👍
When I first played hoi4, I did the tutorial, and ever since, my starting research is the support equipment (above guns) machine tools, and electronics, and never construction I
GRAVY TIMMY
Ah yes, my favorite schizo guy that has 3 channel and to each their own vibe, ISorrow
Honestly, I'm surprised the "tutorial" isn't behind a paywall. Paradox bungles the bare minimum, and then shoves what should be basic features behind a paywall.
I would honestly love a tutorial made by ISP for early --> mid --> late game.
When I started this tutorial way back when I had no dlc and the newest dlc was man the guns I believe, it was nothing, you just started as Italy
Great Vibe
Surprisingly Good ISP ASMR
Just Jazzily reviewing the HOI4 tutorial
Almost fell Asleep
ISP forgetting that field marshals didn't exist
Lol when i first started playing hoi4 i had no clue what a field marshal even was in the game until i watched bitt3rsteel because the tutorial never goes over it
The first time I played I used the tutorial, then I accidentally soft locked the tutorial 20 minutes later
Tbh please do make a guide. I’m terrible and there’s so much to figure out and learn that I don’t have any idea where to start or what I’m doing wrong.
It’s a little irksome because while CK3 has a whole lot to learn I found the Tutorial very good and a great starting place to learning the rest of the game.
I beat Ethiopia and tried to continue playing but declaring on France or Yugoslavia also ended with me getting rolled even after doing the French defense focus that gives you free forts. Haven’t touched the game since.
Ah, good to know that when I tried this 'tutorial' and got lost, overwhelmed, and gave-up, it wasn't JUST because I have never played before...
When I played the tutorial for the first time, I found myself battleplanning with underequipped units of poor quality (did not know I could edit the templates) into the Spanish mountains. Obviously, I was losing, frustrated, and did not have the slightest idea, what I was doing wrong
Sooooooooooo. The tutorial showed how to play the game, yes. But it never showed in the slightest, how to win it, or even come close to winning
Thank you for feeding your piggies, iSorrow!
Next video will be playing the Hoi3 tutorial from the Führerbunker
ISP found the skew effect in adobe and went all in
3:13 Mussolini one night after drinking too much
The tutorial used to be even worse before they updated it (I think they updated it BBA), me and my friend had the same experience of getting defeated by the Ethiopians (pre By Blood Alone).
I got the game not that long ago and I haven't played it since, even though I watch videos on it all the time. This pretty much explains why.
When you try to play it just start clicking random icons and search for tutorials for every feature
Should be calling this series "Paraslop." But they probably wouldn't like that and would put him back on the blacklist for it.
Honestly I recommend people unite Central America as their tutorial
Ok isorrow, I like where this is going, keep producing more slop and someday you'll make it, maybe you'll be known as isorrowproductions
should've made this video 1 year ago. Italy struggles in Ethiopia, I struggles with everything in HOI4. At lleast I know how nnavy works nowdays
4.5k hours. I struggle with both.
Lore of Beating Hearts Of Iron 4 The Way The Developers Intended momentum 100
Intense slop.
I just send the entire army to Ethiopia
23 divisions for north and south each
Factories can be for anything, but usually equipment as supply sucks and you lose so much
Then I split Ethiopia into as many puppets as possible, gaining me factories galore in 1938 (it slows the game down a tiny bit, but since they don't do much or make many divisions, it's not too bad)
Then I focus heavily on Navy, someone's gotta do the carrying, and it ain't gonna be the man up north, he's got a moustache and is addicted to meth
“As the founding fathers intended”
why planning is a thing?
dont they know that no battle plan survives first contact with the enemy?
"In war, I've learned that plans are useless, but planning is indispensable." - HOI4 loading quote.
Paradox needs to assemble a bunch of youtubers or something to rewrite the tutorial.
ISP’s next channel is just gonna be called “productions”
Nah it'll be "sorrowproductions" and that's where the truly depressing and mind melting content will get uploaded.
I actually started playing a couple months ago with no dlc's and didn't think the tutorial was that bad. if you don't have to worry about designers and don't know a single thing of how factories or the controls work it's pretty decent. I kept playing after the tutorial and it went just fine specially compared to if I didn't have any idea of where to even find things in the UI.
were you coming in completely blind? Or had you seen videos, streams and such?
Oh HOI IV schizo god. A instruction video would be most welcomed and enjoyed by your Timothys
I mean, I learned by watching Rimmy's hoi 4 videos back in the day...
isp eepy boy confirmed
Playing a game as intended? Sounds like you'd had a cup of Yorkshire Gold.
Time for a tips and tricks and memes rundown. How to effectively micro. How the heck do you get specific traits for your generals, admirals, etc? If you want log wizard how do you focus your guy on that? I never get a naval invasion blip when I try to take GB. Never launches. I sit there for years, What am I missing? I didn't know how to build units with puppet manpower for years until I finally saw what specific button to press in a random YT video. Things like that.
I ditto this.
As someone w over 700 hours I still don’t fully understand logistics…
Oi oi 'Sorrow, 'Omelander has got me son, and plans to imprison half of 'Merica
Musstarlignt: Mogging
The way i learned hoi4 was by playing el salvador
My logic was im too bad to play anything like Germany so i played a random central american nation to unite central america with while getting left alone by the ai
As someone who doesn’t have all the dlc, a lot of the “flaws” with this tutorial (like not explaining how to design your own ships) are just the lack of information regarding dlc. It covers most of what’s there in vanilla, which is presumably what a noob will be running
You’re still way better off just watching a couple let’s plays by CZcamsrs who explain what they’re doing
I played the old tutorial. I have now also uninstalled the game.
I see ISP found the "make 2D image sloped" effect in sony vegas
We want RAT!
Yep, tutorial doesn't give you any idea what to do with the southern front...
Thanks ISP, I am now a star. But my PC is still broken.