Game Theory: FNAF, You're Going To Hate This (FNAF Security Breach)

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  • čas přidán 25. 11. 2022
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    Friends, I am so sorry for the FNAF theory that we’re presenting to you today. This upsets me as much as it does you, and as frustrating as it might be to hear, I really do think it’s right. There’s just too much evidence surrounding Baby being the one working from the shadows to run Fazbear Entertainment to ignore. I believe she’s doing her best to follow through on the promise she made back in FNAF 6, “I will make you proud, Daddy.” So lower your pitchforks, put out those torches… and hear me out with this one.
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  • @Deutschenwagen
    @Deutschenwagen Před rokem +6159

    Matpat then: 'the story consists of a serial killer killing 5 children'
    Matpat now: 'TRIBE OF ROBOT ELIZABETHS!'

    • @man_noplan
      @man_noplan Před rokem +96

      when i first read this i thought it said queen elizibeths

    • @misc3741
      @misc3741 Před rokem +24

      @@man_noplan She's Dead

    • @bearholdensharkslux4791
      @bearholdensharkslux4791 Před rokem +45

      @@misc3741or is she? Maybe her soul got trapped somewhere

    • @larrymantic2635
      @larrymantic2635 Před rokem +44

      @@man_noplan since God didn’t save the Queen, William Afton decided to take matters into his own hands.

    • @--CHARLIE--
      @--CHARLIE-- Před rokem +13

      *LAUGHS IN SEA-BONNIES*

  • @orange_turtle3412
    @orange_turtle3412 Před rokem +4294

    I like how the entire fnaf scene has become “this theory is very possible but literally everyone hates it.”

    • @kiracomments-chca2747
      @kiracomments-chca2747 Před rokem +12

      so true

    • @theironycomedy6
      @theironycomedy6 Před rokem

      Yeah. That's just the internet for you. A bunch of idiots making fun of Matpat for very believable theories.

    • @orange_turtle3412
      @orange_turtle3412 Před rokem +117

      @@theironycomedy6 Not making fun of. Hating. I actually hate these theories.
      Not because I think they’re bad theories, or that I hate matpat. I hate the fact that they might be true. I REALLY dont want them to be true.

    • @junelaananke7138
      @junelaananke7138 Před rokem +32

      I honestly don't think this one is, it's basically just "every woman is actually Elizabeth Afton". Matpat's always been a fairly reliable source about the FNAF story but this one feels like a stretch at best. I would highly recommend checking out the latest Security Breath theories by Fuhnaff, I think the theory is a lot more well constructed.

    • @The_Hunta62
      @The_Hunta62 Před rokem +6

      You can thank Steelwool for that one

  • @Wongleheimer
    @Wongleheimer Před rokem +658

    Y’know, I’m not gonna lie, I actually love this theory, it makes a lot of sense and answers a lot of questions.

  • @di0169
    @di0169 Před rokem +311

    This franchise makes me cry, and I’m not even the one researching for all this info. Props MatPat and team 👏👏👏😭😭✨✨✨

  • @skrbblr2370
    @skrbblr2370 Před rokem +23557

    I love how at this point MatPat has to apologize before presenting any FNAF theories because even he knows how insane the story has become.

    • @theahmedshow4794
      @theahmedshow4794 Před rokem +329

      The game story has become insufferable

    • @nataliaborys1554
      @nataliaborys1554 Před rokem +368

      I mean, look at the recent big claims of the FNaF theory community
      - Gregory is a robot
      - FNaF 1 - SL are of very questionable canonicity, might be not accurate at all
      - Patient 46 is a robot version of Charlie
      - Baby owns Fazbear Entertainment
      - Vanessa is a robot adult version of Elizabeth
      And all of those incite the feeling of "oh god I hate this so much, but you might be right-"

    • @fr0zerter
      @fr0zerter Před rokem +22

      @yes this guy is also a bot

    • @ascasdasx
      @ascasdasx Před rokem +12

      It was always insane after fnaf 1

    • @nataliaborys1554
      @nataliaborys1554 Před rokem +118

      @@ascasdasx I disagree. I think that _"Phone Guy is secretly Purple Guy", "Jeremy Fitzgerald was the victim of Bite Of '87"_ and _"Springtrap actually set up the fire at Fazbear's Fright to help himself escape"_ that were popular discussion points back in the day are far less insane than _"Gregory is actually a robot", "Vanessa is the adult robot version of Afton's dead daughter"_ and _"William Afton, who should've been dead thrice over already and was implied to have went to Hell in a previous game, is now somehow a computer virus that can also posses humans(?)"_ that we have now.

  • @Mizer1822
    @Mizer1822 Před rokem +6200

    I always chuckle that I've never played a single fnaf game but MatPat has kept me appraised of the LORE for years.

    • @donovanloreman
      @donovanloreman Před rokem +244

      Me too. I am more invested in FNAF's story than any game I actually play.

    • @kimbuhlyt2803
      @kimbuhlyt2803 Před rokem +148

      actually same. i’ve never even touched the game but the lore is just so entertaining.

    • @Zen_DragonTwitch
      @Zen_DragonTwitch Před rokem +38

      Lol same. I’ve only played a rip-off of the first one

    • @abstractfriends6722
      @abstractfriends6722 Před rokem +13

      sameee!!!!

    • @CrzyMonky1
      @CrzyMonky1 Před rokem +9

      Sameee!!

  • @jeepmega629
    @jeepmega629 Před rokem +178

    It’s insane that Matt can make these crazy sounding theories sound plausible

  • @haiachoo
    @haiachoo Před rokem +23

    the way security breach tells a clear story yet is still one of the most frustratingly vague games really tells you a lot about the fnaf franchise.

  • @thespectacularlymonochrome7891

    Imagine waiting 6 years just to come up with a Boss Baby joke for a theory, Matpat's vision is truly unmatched

    • @d.kappa_gaming1846
      @d.kappa_gaming1846 Před rokem +51

      you mean "matpat's dad jokes"

    • @DBL-DBK738
      @DBL-DBK738 Před rokem +20

      6 years. Now THAT is Determination(#undertale)

    • @feirygyhghgjvnhd123
      @feirygyhghgjvnhd123 Před rokem +6

      @@DBL-DBK738wha-

    • @ttvichannel
      @ttvichannel Před rokem +1

      DO NOT TRANSLATE!!! ଅନୁବାଦ କରନ୍ତୁ ନାହିଁ!!! ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ପାଇଛ କାରଣ ଯଦି ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବ ନାହିଁ ତେବେ ତୁମେ ତୁମର ବାକି ଜୀବନ ପାଇଁ ଅଭିଶାପ ପାଇବ, ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବାର ଏକମାତ୍ର ଉପାୟ ହେଉଛି ମୋ ଚ୍ୟାନେଲକୁ ସଦସ୍ୟତା ଦେବା .....

    • @imanuelc143
      @imanuelc143 Před rokem +2

      Never let peoples to know your next moves

  • @ashleystricker2074
    @ashleystricker2074 Před rokem +2944

    My favorite part of the most recent Era of FNAF Theories is the « we hate it here and you should too » energy that brings us all together

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 Před rokem +49

      Nah i like it if we can't get the true ending dream theory then let just go with the crazy

    • @kryptoid2568
      @kryptoid2568 Před rokem +3

      @Patrick39 another bot ok

    • @takebackconstantinople82
      @takebackconstantinople82 Před rokem +1

      Does anyone how the song that starts in the background at 13:40 and ends at 16:02 is called/named?

    • @takebackconstantinople82
      @takebackconstantinople82 Před rokem +1

      @@gameuniverse5973 Does anyone how the song that starts in the background at 13:40 and ends at 16:02 is called/named?

    • @takebackconstantinople82
      @takebackconstantinople82 Před rokem +1

      Does anyone how the song that starts in the background at 13:40 and ends at 16:02 is called/named?

  • @rifino3971
    @rifino3971 Před rokem +34

    While you tell them to write their anger comments, I'm excited and ready to hear this. I always wondered why Elizabeth would take such a side but have no major events surrounding her (besides her death). Now I will continue watching. (Nice plug on the merch btw)

  • @baconplayz5673
    @baconplayz5673 Před rokem +8

    I love the idea of a scene in Ruin where Circus Baby swivels around in a chair and says "I've been expecting you"

  • @GChezlynD
    @GChezlynD Před rokem +3559

    I refuse to believe that Scott isn't already secretly subscribed to Game Theorists, building around all the theories, to keep us all guessing.

    • @Carbot-101
      @Carbot-101 Před rokem +124

      He did that in around 2017 i think

    • @orange_turtle3412
      @orange_turtle3412 Před rokem +291

      Oh theres absolutely no chance he isnt subbed. These videos are probably hilariously entertaining to him, being the only person in world to know for absolute certain whether hes right or not.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl Před rokem +86

      Usually making MatPat at least somewhat wrong, to continue tradition where he can never be right lol.

    • @notjoosh8616
      @notjoosh8616 Před rokem +23

      he doesn’t make the games anymore he got canceled 😭

    • @GChezlynD
      @GChezlynD Před rokem +43

      @@notjoosh8616 perhaps he can still write the books/novels instead of developing the games? I hope he hasn't completely left the series. I wish he still writing the lore himself.

  • @galvanize148
    @galvanize148 Před rokem +2921

    When it’s not even a drama related video and it starts with THE COUCH, you know it’s gonna be crazy.

  • @hehe5932
    @hehe5932 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Matpat’s theory that cassie is a blonde, light skin girl didnt ages well

  • @charlesfields2678
    @charlesfields2678 Před rokem +23

    The amount of research he puts into these videos is amazing

    • @matthewmatthew981
      @matthewmatthew981 Před rokem +1

      This isn't research, it's insane leaps in logic that disregard swaths of preexistent evidence and the entire concept of Ockham's Razor.
      The only reason it sounds convincing is because MatPat comes from a theater background and has been honing his public speaking skills through CZcams videos for years.

  • @colekiesler6218
    @colekiesler6218 Před rokem +953

    2014: “It’s official that kids were definitely stuffed into the animatronic suits.”
    2022: “Hey can someone remind me what a bear is again?”

    • @SpiritOfSpite
      @SpiritOfSpite Před rokem +66

      They're canonically extinct apparently.

    • @sinfinite7516
      @sinfinite7516 Před rokem +21

      @@SpiritOfSpite it’s actually in the cut dialogue, so its got questionable canonicity

    • @SpiritOfSpite
      @SpiritOfSpite Před rokem +5

      @@sinfinite7516 Pretty sure it was patched back in at some point.

    • @karlmarx7397
      @karlmarx7397 Před rokem

      FR

    • @Smiuley
      @Smiuley Před rokem +4

      @@sinfinite7516 It definitely made it into the game. There are playthroughs in which you can hear those lines. I don't know if it was patched out again later on, but I don't think so.

  • @brainstorm006
    @brainstorm006 Před rokem +1595

    At this stage, I don't mind the Dream Theory coming back given how insane FNAF have gotten.

    • @brainstorm006
      @brainstorm006 Před rokem +19

      @don't be surprised Now that's not very nice to troll me that way.

    • @Iggyauna
      @Iggyauna Před rokem +41

      Things were so much simpler back then...

    • @brainstorm006
      @brainstorm006 Před rokem +9

      @@Iggyauna Indeed

    • @stingerjohnny9951
      @stingerjohnny9951 Před rokem

      Don’t give the hacks an inch, if you do, the “AshisinacomaFinnisdelusionalintheapocalypseAngelicaisschizophrenic” idiots will resurface… *shudders*

    • @Zen_DragonTwitch
      @Zen_DragonTwitch Před rokem +13

      Yeah either a dream or Crying Child in a coma

  • @matthewmatthew981
    @matthewmatthew981 Před rokem +13

    I think there's something to be said here about the importance of knowing the difference between a Chekhov's gun being fired and a Chekhov's gun being hung on the wall.

  • @moxytocinn
    @moxytocinn Před 10 měsíci +3

    maybe steel wool taking over fnaf was a hint at fazbear entertainment being taken over by someone new

  • @friendlyneighborhoodnoob
    @friendlyneighborhoodnoob Před rokem +6819

    Im glad John joined Matpat's team of theorists, he really deserved it

    • @yallknowme4233
      @yallknowme4233 Před rokem +3

      *LETS BE HONEST WE ALL REMEMBER THIS RECORD:*
      czcams.com/video/hnwr_KA78f0/video.html

    • @yallknowme4233
      @yallknowme4233 Před rokem

      *LETS BE HONEST WE ALL REMEMBER THIS RECORD:*
      czcams.com/video/hnwr_KA78f0/video.html

    • @RyanCR3000Omega19
      @RyanCR3000Omega19 Před rokem +10

      the irony xD

    • @friendlyneighborhoodnoob
      @friendlyneighborhoodnoob Před rokem +94

      :(
      *why is my chat raided*

    • @sinfinite7516
      @sinfinite7516 Před rokem +46

      What do you mean he joined his team of theorist? He’s on Matt’s payroll now?

  • @stickybear2557
    @stickybear2557 Před rokem +1971

    I also just realized the tag line for the original Sister Location game is "There was never just one."

    • @whomply5408
      @whomply5408 Před rokem +109

      But "never"? What about when human Elizabeth was alive? Unless robot Elizabeths were built preempitively before her death?

    • @xxprologancool3538
      @xxprologancool3538 Před rokem +28

      Nice catch

    • @DustyStarrs
      @DustyStarrs Před rokem +9

      woah

    • @fizzy69o.0
      @fizzy69o.0 Před rokem +13

      @@whomply5408 myb its only referred to robot Elizabeths and not original human

    • @carlieghmoskal6666
      @carlieghmoskal6666 Před rokem +8

      You just blew my mind....

  • @crashstart
    @crashstart Před rokem +6

    There is so much lore to work with on Stardew Valley and with how thorough you are I would be THRILLED to see it explained

  • @moafalkman4129
    @moafalkman4129 Před rokem +3

    Wouldn't it be hilarilous if the games ended with a twist that Afton never killed children, but rather that he was getting rid of robot children, either because they were getting "older" and needed their replacement model, or for some darker reason. In that way turning the perception of Afton as a vicious murderer that has been built for almost a decade now.

  • @_dr34m5
    @_dr34m5 Před rokem +2591

    The fact that MatPat can hear a British accent in a laugh is insane

    • @yallknowme4233
      @yallknowme4233 Před rokem +3

      *LETS BE HONEST WE ALL REMEMBER THIS RECORD:*
      czcams.com/video/hnwr_KA78f0/video.html

    • @yallknowme4233
      @yallknowme4233 Před rokem +1

      *LETS BE HONEST WE ALL REMEMBER THIS RECORD:*
      czcams.com/video/hnwr_KA78f0/video.html

    • @gameman3981
      @gameman3981 Před rokem +142

      Eh, I can hear accents in laughs (and chuckles) too (atleast sometimes) so I wouldn't say it's all too weird.

    • @rgs_goat-xb7wp
      @rgs_goat-xb7wp Před rokem +104

      I'm British and I didn't realize it was a British laugh until he pointed it out

    • @enderborn6860
      @enderborn6860 Před rokem +32

      really depends id wager you have to hear the laugh´s and accents alot to pin point which laugh is in which accent a job i can sure see Mat do cause boy this man´s been doing crazier things just to get any info for these actually very possible theories

  • @DiamondRocksIt
    @DiamondRocksIt Před rokem +2667

    FNAF lore is so confusing to me at this point but I actually think this is one of the best security breech theories I’ve seen

    • @_theknighthawk_7018
      @_theknighthawk_7018 Před rokem +34

      just smile and wave....
      smile and wave.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r Před rokem +23

      Agree with you. I always wanted Elizabeth to show up more in the series. If this is true, we can finally see her as the new villain! :D

    • @doranr80
      @doranr80 Před rokem

      It's not it's fnaf

    • @rezambie
      @rezambie Před rokem +2

      @yes thats lowkey smart and self aware for a bot comment i like it picasso

    • @keithflippers4429
      @keithflippers4429 Před rokem +1

      Kingdom hearts lore

  • @gabriellockwood2780
    @gabriellockwood2780 Před 7 dny +1

    Remember, there was a fire BEFORE FNaF3.
    Remember, FazBear was facing closure/dissolution when they decided to open a Horror Attraction based around the "Urban Legends" surrounding the COMPANY.
    It's been 30 years since the horrific events of Freddy's.
    Freddy FazBear's Pizzeria (1987) is the EXACT same building as Freddy's Pizzeria//FazBear's Pizza (2000~) AND FazBear's Fright (2017~18).
    [2] > [1] > _ > [3]

  • @riversong4997
    @riversong4997 Před 8 měsíci +3

    So there could be an infinite number of Elizabeths? *BioShock flashbacks*

  • @medicolkie3606
    @medicolkie3606 Před rokem +1727

    With every new FNAF theory, it makes the original "Woah, there's 5 missing kids, and 4+1 animatronics! This is mind-blowing!" seem so much simpler

    • @Writer_Productions_Map
      @Writer_Productions_Map Před rokem +10

      385 likes and no replies
      Anyways, very true

    • @thomasbendickson4126
      @thomasbendickson4126 Před rokem +11

      The missing kids are dead and we’ll we have no idea what happened to Elizabeth except getting scooped by circus baby but she changed the eyes and she might be controlling circus baby from the inside and she escaped

    • @Alexander_Luv1
      @Alexander_Luv1 Před 8 měsíci +4

      i plan on watching all the games then theorys with my friend. Hes going to loose his shot taking it all in at once lmao

  • @Darthvader-hd8ov
    @Darthvader-hd8ov Před rokem +2

    At 9:53 you should have said “so warm makes it look like you walked out of Freddy fazbears like Michael Afton”

  • @davidmgnl
    @davidmgnl Před rokem +2

    I love the way you put in the merch plug seamlessly. Just perfect and smooth haha

  • @chickenmaster3879
    @chickenmaster3879 Před rokem +2566

    You said we would hate this, but this one fits together a lot more than anything else this Freddy Spaghetti game has given us so far. Keep going MatPat, you're on the right track!

  • @col.choros3966
    @col.choros3966 Před rokem +848

    Vanessa being a robot would make it much more believable that Glitchtrap would be able to download himself into her.

    • @starlabain2230
      @starlabain2230 Před rokem +51

      And even when the robots aren't possesed, they have their own personalities and what they're programed to do. Vanessa would be a humanoid robot programed to "get" Gregory, Probably another robot programmed to stay close to another robot, Glamrock Freddy, and that would explain the glitch effect whenever Vanessa gets close to you, because she has a virus possessing her and another robot, Gregory, his software wouldn't know how to react and would detect a virus, but then why would Vanny only be visible to Gregory? That would make sense if Glamrock Freddy was possesed because if he was then he wouldn't be able to detect the virus.

    • @keiishine
      @keiishine Před rokem +23

      I never understood how Glitchtrap could infect a human with his virus.

    • @fizzy69o.0
      @fizzy69o.0 Před rokem +6

      Truee it makes much more sense

    • @wut-se8hz
      @wut-se8hz Před rokem +7

      But what about Jeremy? How would he be affected by glitchtrap

    • @lolbit4016
      @lolbit4016 Před rokem +21

      @@wut-se8hz Jeremy could just have been driven insane by glitchtrap constantly bothering and torturing him while he was testing the game.

  • @mcelytra7234
    @mcelytra7234 Před rokem +1

    The timeline comes out:
    MatPat: you know what, I think its Mrs afton, some random person we've never met!

  • @yourfriendwaffle5372
    @yourfriendwaffle5372 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It may make a bit more sense for Elizabeth to be patient 46 now because she’d want to keep tabs on Vanessa. It would also make more sense for the internal memo from high up for Vanessa to become a security guard. It would also be the opposites thing in the therapy. If it’s different versions of the same person. It may be different stages of life for the likes and dislikes?

  • @commentator-5751
    @commentator-5751 Před rokem +1408

    Bro seeing John grow from being a small FNaF CZcamsr to working with MatPat is literally the greatest feeling. Also I’m surprised that Mat didn’t compare John from the books to the John in real life lol

    • @RlrOfWorldzYT
      @RlrOfWorldzYT Před rokem +16

      I saw that and was like "that character looks like John from Fuhnaff" and then they said his name was John and I was like "could it be?" Lol

    • @FTFOXY43670
      @FTFOXY43670 Před rokem +5

      matpat fr be like: *sniff* they grow up so fast..

    • @maxford10ford81
      @maxford10ford81 Před rokem +3

      I love this for John so much

    • @revengefire9817
      @revengefire9817 Před rokem

      This is amazing in every way for matt but at 1:36 do you see the little guy in the bisb or whatever it is it seems like a face

    • @hasantirmazi6562
      @hasantirmazi6562 Před rokem

      Uggg

  • @REALJUICEHEAD
    @REALJUICEHEAD Před rokem +1263

    Never would think MatPat would say “BossBaby” in a fnaf theory video.

  • @brettsmith4499
    @brettsmith4499 Před rokem +3

    I'll be honest, I enjoyed this one. This was more satisfying than I expected. So thank you Candy Cadet for the 5:1 stories because now they're real.?.

  • @SnowLily123
    @SnowLily123 Před rokem +1

    MatPat (8:35): “Who would want to bring a serial killer back to life!?”
    Me deadpans: *Another serial killer.*

  • @RivkahSong
    @RivkahSong Před rokem +521

    Y'know, I don't hate this theory at all. It's actually pretty neat, fills a lot of the plot holes, and is far more interesting than just handwaving the double Vanessas. It would also lean into the "Gregory is a robot Crying Child" theory AND the "Glamrock Freddy is Michael Afton" theory if Elizabeth is being the ultimate daddy's girl and trying to resurrect all her loved ones so they can be one big happy murder family together.

    • @jjimzee
      @jjimzee Před rokem +1

      Yup

    • @aniflowers1998
      @aniflowers1998 Před rokem +23

      Would also fitt neatly with my personal theory that Vannessa/Vanny was the one who build Gregory! (Got that idea from one of the Help Wanted E-Mails where Luis talks about "Nessa" ordering "three lifelike human rubber masks". You know, exactly what one would need to make a robot boy look real xD)
      Vanessa beeing a rebuild of Elisabeth could also tie in to why she doesn't like basements (retro cd 9-7143, also hinted at in CD 11-7145 with Vanessa specifically calling out that she likes the blue sky), since Baby was looked away underground in sister location.

    • @enderboo_5428
      @enderboo_5428 Před rokem +2

      Exactly! I really like this theory, it’s pretty cool. :)

    • @oj9690
      @oj9690 Před rokem +2

      Honestly, yeah

    • @taimabye1652
      @taimabye1652 Před rokem +1

      👍👍👁👅👁

  • @DementisXYZ
    @DementisXYZ Před rokem +739

    I...actually like this one. This feels like the story just fully accepting how insane it is and just having fun with it. That said, even more fun, the idea of the DLC having us play as young Elizabeth to challenge her "future" selves.

  • @gabriellockwood2780
    @gabriellockwood2780 Před 7 dny

    Silver Eyes ending:
    *Foxy slashes Charlie's leg open.*
    Twisted Ones opening:
    *Clay Burke informs Charlie that they found fake blood where they thought William had died--the CHARACTERS believe William survived.*
    Fourth Closet:
    *John tells Charlie that he watched her die, saw the bloody mess in the rubble, etc. Charlie kinda shrugs it off.*

  • @theace3963
    @theace3963 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Been doing a rewatch of all these theories, kinda makes sense why glitchtrap is even able to possess Vanny if she’s 1. A robot and 2. A version of baby that what’s to pls her father

  • @SuperMaanas
    @SuperMaanas Před rokem +2839

    This theory somehow feels more satisfying than any of the other Security Breach theories. I think you hit the nail on the head MatPat!

    • @LeonardoStupidKenway
      @LeonardoStupidKenway Před rokem +2

      Ouch

    • @mukrow55
      @mukrow55 Před rokem +31

      I'm just confused why wouldn't those other "Elizabeth's" show up before.
      Like, if they were built when Baby killed Elizabeth, then they're a part of this timeline since SL flashbacks. Still, somehow they never interacted with william, or michael, or henry, or the animatronics, or anybody at all.
      If this "Boss baby" really exists, why wouldn't she help william before?
      Were she deactivated before? then what or who got this older Elizabot to work? It's a fun theory and I kinda hope someone might be able to answer my questions, but I just feel like it's lacking a lot of information right now.

    • @shanedog5059
      @shanedog5059 Před rokem +21

      and John! he was the first to come up with the theory afterall.

    • @pacchitman
      @pacchitman Před rokem +1

      🕎❤️

    • @homerman76
      @homerman76 Před rokem +6

      @@mukrow55 I'm wondering if maybe it might be like in the one short story, she doesn't have different robots stages, maybe she's just straight up stolen some poor girl's identity and Scrap Baby is what was left of said girl (in other words, Henry destroyed the wrong animatronic.)

  • @efraimtorres8141
    @efraimtorres8141 Před rokem +1640

    I love how Mat Pat and John are both working on totally different sides of fnaf but still draw from echo there for evidence. I’m sure they talk behind the scenes.It’s like a class project that they split their attention to different parts for

  • @kaitlynub71
    @kaitlynub71 Před 11 měsíci

    i love that you repeat my gave credits to fuhnaff. idk why but it made me happy seeing him admirally talking about fellow theorists

  • @deathslingermain7467
    @deathslingermain7467 Před rokem +353

    Honestly I feel like some developers don't do all of their lore intentionally, but build it up with the theories developed by fans.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r Před rokem +1

      Kinda like old Bendy, right? Dunno about the newer one, but yeah

  • @AndromedaArchive
    @AndromedaArchive Před rokem +1394

    At this point I'm invested in the FNAF theories solely to watch you and your nice FNAF friends passionately discuss. I honestly have no idea what's happening in FNAF anymore.

    • @doll9340
      @doll9340 Před rokem +28

      No one does

    • @rainzyzz
      @rainzyzz Před rokem +50

      Literally none of us know what's happening at this point, even the theorists don't seem to have an actual solid timeline cause of how many missing pieces there are

    • @toonasag
      @toonasag Před rokem +7

      Haha same. I don't even play it lol

    • @frost.0707
      @frost.0707 Před rokem +6

      I swear Scott is pulling a prank on us and just laughing at our dumbasses.

    • @coconut7490
      @coconut7490 Před rokem +15

      @@frost.0707 Scott is punishing the fan base for rejecting Dream Theory 100%, we had a solid conclusion and figured out the story line, Scott was about to reveal the content of the FNAF 4 box ( likely something related to dreams ) but the fans hated the theory so much that he had to walk back and redo the whole story. Now he's just trolling and making weirdest story possible, where it's almost impossible to solve as punishment.

  • @generalkenobi2287
    @generalkenobi2287 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Tbh when matpat said "this holiday season " I thought I had somehow missed a video

  • @abramjones1649
    @abramjones1649 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love how much he rubs robot Gregory in everyone's face 😂

  • @queerbandnerd5942
    @queerbandnerd5942 Před rokem +975

    I like how MatPat seems just as confused as us when he goes through he’s fnaf theories and how he got there but is still somehow extremely confident in what he’s saying.

    • @brendonchavez4327
      @brendonchavez4327 Před rokem +3

      What's ur fav band

    • @ttvichannel
      @ttvichannel Před rokem

      DO NOT TRANSLATE!!! ଅନୁବାଦ କରନ୍ତୁ ନାହିଁ!!! ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ପାଇଛ କାରଣ ଯଦି ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବ ନାହିଁ ତେବେ ତୁମେ ତୁମର ବାକି ଜୀବନ ପାଇଁ ଅଭିଶାପ ପାଇବ, ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବାର ଏକମାତ୍ର ଉପାୟ ହେଉଛି ମୋ ଚ୍ୟାନେଲକୁ ସଦସ୍ୟତା ଦେବା .....

    • @cactusgamingyt9960
      @cactusgamingyt9960 Před rokem +4

      @@ttvichannel among us text fr sussy

    • @saifmohamed2967
      @saifmohamed2967 Před rokem

      almost as if someone gives him the theories...

  • @rachelisverycoo
    @rachelisverycoo Před rokem +1588

    It’s amazing seeing John join Mat on his journey to solve Security Breach, he’s really been doing some insane things and making incredible theories.

  • @neadedios3106
    @neadedios3106 Před rokem +1

    Tbh “Daughter of a dead serial killer tries to bring her father back to life” kinda makes for a sick storyline

  • @AngelDustMyBel0ved
    @AngelDustMyBel0ved Před rokem +1

    17:24 this theory is a month old and I still cant cant over the fact that Matpat somehow got a British accent from a girl laughing😭

  • @totallynotalpharius
    @totallynotalpharius Před rokem +195

    Something else to help support this theory is the fact that when Vanessa catches Gregory and locks him in that office, and then talks to him on the monitors, Vanny appears and takes over the monitors.
    This whole transition happened in seconds, there would be no way that Vanessa could have changed into her Vanny costume that quickly, unless she wasn’t even Vanny in the first place

    • @danoobking901
      @danoobking901 Před rokem +5

      Thats really smart, I didn’t think of that while watching this, but I have noticed this before

    • @totallynotalpharius
      @totallynotalpharius Před rokem

      @@danoobking901 thanks!

  • @IkerUnzu
    @IkerUnzu Před rokem +12226

    I’m happy John made his theories !! Look how far he’s come.

    • @nixonbuck4246
      @nixonbuck4246 Před rokem +17

      So far.

    • @zan821
      @zan821 Před rokem +76

      who tf is john???

    • @liv6919
      @liv6919 Před rokem +165

      @@zan821 he is the CZcamsr fuhnaff!! He is mentioned a bit in the vid

    • @dronekid9905
      @dronekid9905 Před rokem +8

      his name is MAT

    • @jman72898
      @jman72898 Před rokem +114

      @@dronekid9905 come on man….are you actually serious? He’s talking about John. It wouldn’t be very likely for someone to think Mat is named John so it should be pretty obvious they are talking about someone else who got involved in this.

  • @Mi_bailarina
    @Mi_bailarina Před rokem +1

    MATPAT YOU GOTTA STOP WITH THESE THEORIES YOU'RE KILLING ME 😭✋️ HOW DO YOU EVEN COME UP WITH THESE?

  • @The_geoboy
    @The_geoboy Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love how his final timeline just says that it was Clara afton

  • @Broly555_TV
    @Broly555_TV Před rokem +311

    I gotta admit, this fan theory actually makes a lot of sense as far as who's behind the scenes pulling the strings.

    • @spy2177
      @spy2177 Před rokem +2

      @beyond your imagination Don't you dare

  • @DarkShadic9632
    @DarkShadic9632 Před rokem +816

    For once, I actually kind of like a theory about Vanny and Vanessa not being the same person. This is just cool.

    • @DementisXYZ
      @DementisXYZ Před rokem +62

      I'm satisfied by it because that Rooftop ending bothered the hell out of me and I just couldn't accept the "Her soul is trapped" theory.

    • @TheBrotherGrim
      @TheBrotherGrim Před rokem +35

      @@DementisXYZ I've been saying that since I first saw the ending. If it was a soul or ghost they would have added something visually to represent that, making her semi transparent, adding a ghostly aura, something. The fact that it was just regular looking Vanny standing there looking down just didn't sit right with the idea of it being a spoooopyyy ghost. I had no idea what the alternative could have been, I assumed maybe a secret twin or something, but either way it just didn't feel right to claim 'Oh that's just her ghost haunting the building now.' when there weren't any visual clues to back that up.

    • @ms.adorasmiitopiamisadventures
      @ms.adorasmiitopiamisadventures Před rokem +5

      That is what I suspected, but no one listened.

    • @bluegold1026
      @bluegold1026 Před rokem +4

      @@TheBrotherGrimMy thoughts EXACTLY.

    • @Syv14
      @Syv14 Před rokem +2

      Same, it makes sense

  • @user-oi5db5ye4q
    @user-oi5db5ye4q Před 10 měsíci +2

    mat killed me with the ending pun at 20:08 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mimiindisguise6357
    @mimiindisguise6357 Před rokem +1

    "If you don't wanna have the hassle of S
    solving your clothes-"
    Style theory: hold my tie

  • @sleepy-fc6rf
    @sleepy-fc6rf Před rokem +231

    I've been asking how the hell Fazbear Entertainment came back for YEARS.
    So vindicating to finally see someone acknowledge how bizarre it is.

    • @bluegold1026
      @bluegold1026 Před rokem +2

      And who brought it back? I always thought it was some unnamed billionaire and tech entrepenuer a la Elon Musk. But now MatPat's theory has given me a new perspective.

    • @New3DSLuigi364
      @New3DSLuigi364 Před rokem +2

      of course it's Elderly Elizabeth Afton!!!!
      AKA THE CEO OF FAZBEAR ENTERTAINMENT LLC!

  • @tythekingrs4775
    @tythekingrs4775 Před rokem +381

    MatPat sacrificing himself with that Boss Baby joke to segue into the merch promo is killer

  • @maxclips3152
    @maxclips3152 Před rokem

    Everytime Mat mentions that now he's in Raleigh I have a moment of confusion and surrealism I never thought he'd be licing in the city I grew up in.

  • @rubberduck.
    @rubberduck. Před 10 měsíci +2

    "Who would do that?! Who would go to that level of extreme?"
    me sitting at the back of the room*

  • @fulveous
    @fulveous Před rokem +1761

    i cant stop laughing, Matpat has to APOLOGISE FOR HIS THEORIES because they're starting to get so crazy lmfao

    • @sirfazbear4993
      @sirfazbear4993 Před rokem +13

      *STARTING TO GET SO BAD*
      *MAJORITY OF THEM WERE ALREADY BAD*

    • @iiinterstellarrr
      @iiinterstellarrr Před rokem +119

      @@sirfazbear4993 we don't tolerate matpat slander here 😤

    • @sirfazbear4993
      @sirfazbear4993 Před rokem +4

      @@iiinterstellarrr Don't remember asking

    • @VistilShaiteth
      @VistilShaiteth Před rokem +86

      @@sirfazbear4993 Don't remember asking for your opinion, either, and yet there it is

    • @ioftenreplytodeadcomments8920
      @ioftenreplytodeadcomments8920 Před rokem +4

      Elysia is watching Matpat solving FNAF damn

  • @classicdino9077
    @classicdino9077 Před rokem +702

    The fact that these theories make more sense and feel more right than most others is telling. I think he’s finally doing it guys. He’s solving the LORE.

    • @xlx-dn9jq
      @xlx-dn9jq Před rokem +9

      HEY!! Don't say the L word! its dangerous.

    • @gameuniverse5973
      @gameuniverse5973 Před rokem +6

      The Lore is probably not solved since it always gonna be mysterious

    • @thyme8664
      @thyme8664 Před rokem +2

      @@xlx-dn9jq Lipoic

    • @shitpost_god
      @shitpost_god Před rokem +2

      Bri’ish Elizabeth XD

    • @derrickhageman1969
      @derrickhageman1969 Před rokem +3

      Yeah matpat make all of the lore more understanable compared to theif king

  • @Queen_Cnidarian
    @Queen_Cnidarian Před 5 měsíci +1

    Using this video to review what a LLC is for upcoming midterms. Thanks Mat!

  • @seanmcelroy9738
    @seanmcelroy9738 Před rokem +1

    I mean, it's also possible that the boss is just a capitalist who knew William was a brilliant roboticist and tried to bring him back because of that. Child murder being an acceptable loss to have someone on board who can help develop even more advanced animatronics

  • @calliem4898
    @calliem4898 Před rokem +577

    I’ve never played a single FNAF game in my life, but I’ve seen every one of Matpat’s videos on it because when I see one I know it’s going to be the most unhinged thing I’ve ever heard. Y’all are troopers for piecing together anything close to a timeline out of this writing

    • @ttvichannel
      @ttvichannel Před rokem +1

      DO NOT TRANSLATE!!! ଅନୁବାଦ କରନ୍ତୁ ନାହିଁ!!! ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ପାଇଛ କାରଣ ଯଦି ତୁମେ ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବ ନାହିଁ ତେବେ ତୁମେ ତୁମର ବାକି ଜୀବନ ପାଇଁ ଅଭିଶାପ ପାଇବ, ଅଭିଶାପ ଭାଙ୍ଗିବାର ଏକମାତ୍ର ଉପାୟ ହେଉଛି ମୋ ଚ୍ୟାନେଲକୁ ସଦସ୍ୟତା ଦେବା '''''

    • @tremateme6381
      @tremateme6381 Před rokem +3

      @@ttvichannel ok

    • @meru3suns327
      @meru3suns327 Před rokem +4

      @@ttvichannel goofy

    • @AceFaz
      @AceFaz Před rokem +5

      The actual fnaf story telling is fine, Mat just overcomplicates it.

    • @theinter-healer7167
      @theinter-healer7167 Před rokem +2

      @@ttvichannel 🤓

  • @benwelsh5265
    @benwelsh5265 Před rokem +2309

    I could never hate your FNAF theory vids MatPat. Sure they're not always a win and yeah sometimes they do prompt some nerdy rage on occasion but I do always enjoy watching and rewatching them. I didn't lose my proverbial cool during the Dream Theory era so I'm pretty set to go with whatever you've cooked up this week.

  • @coryjamieson3171
    @coryjamieson3171 Před rokem +2

    This clone thing in the FNAF books is similar to what happens in the movie Gemini Man, Scott Cawthon is a genius game developer. He doesn't reveal much about the story of FNAF, rather he makes us figure it out for ourselves. The lore of FNAF and DDLC is incredibly interesting.

  • @Dokataa
    @Dokataa Před 8 měsíci +1

    It’s not impossible that Vanny was also running the company. Two Aftons who run around in hand made bunny costumes killing kids also running Fazbear entertainment?

  • @Astr0n1ty_M00n
    @Astr0n1ty_M00n Před rokem +143

    The moment you see Matt on the couch saying 'your gonna hate this one,' you could tell it's gonna be an insane theory.

  • @nyekomimi
    @nyekomimi Před rokem +476

    Man, this went WAY different direction than I expected.
    I expected the "corporation dissolved" thing to go into twist that pizza simulator takes place *after* Security Breach.

    • @petesacatcool859
      @petesacatcool859 Před rokem +16

      That's an interesting point of view ? Could you walk me through that ? I really wanna hear the explanation :)

    • @atanaZion
      @atanaZion Před rokem +4

      @@petesacatcool859 I think he meant that the fact the company was dissolved by FNaF 6 proofs that it could only happens after SB

    • @thehaloscrolls391
      @thehaloscrolls391 Před rokem

      @@atanaZion that… is actually not the worst idea, I mean think about it everytime we see a shot of the pizzeria in those cartoon cutscenes it looks worn down

    • @tayloranderson7547
      @tayloranderson7547 Před rokem +2

      Then I expected. I expected the concert this whole thing to go into the twist that pizza simulator took place after security breach

  • @remysotheraccount
    @remysotheraccount Před rokem +1

    i love your theoryes u always try to get the pieces to go togother i sporrt u the full way

  • @unluckiii
    @unluckiii Před rokem +2

    matoat: *hears a giggle*
    theres a british accent to that one

  • @Max_Max3120
    @Max_Max3120 Před rokem +530

    Did anyone notice that the pizza plex is literally purple so knowing that it’s purple it would be “reserved for the aftons.” so Matpat’s theory might actually be correct.

  • @bakis5930
    @bakis5930 Před rokem +251

    Honestly, I really love this theory! It could be a way to continue the Afton history without revining William over and over again. And Elizabeth fighting with the other version of herself? Sounds cool af!

    • @larrymantic2635
      @larrymantic2635 Před rokem

      Still, it’s practically bringing back someone else from the dead for this to work.

  • @kenidur1561
    @kenidur1561 Před 8 měsíci

    "Sister Location" as a set of words has been used in so many different ways in FNAF that it's kinda just lost it's meaning- A game, a secondary location, and now A PRIMARY LOCATION FULL OF ROBOT GIRLS.

  • @andrewpolito9244
    @andrewpolito9244 Před měsícem

    If Elizabeth is the one in charge and the ending where the Afton bot is absorbed into the blob is the cannon ending, that might explain why she allowed the pizzaplex to fall apart in ruin. She no longer needed it.

  • @jamesgamesalot8239
    @jamesgamesalot8239 Před rokem +760

    I don’t read or play FNAF, but I never miss a theory video because I find them so well done. This is probably a sign of insanity. Whatevs, I love me some theories!

    • @abbiebagnell1398
      @abbiebagnell1398 Před rokem +10

      Same, I love just trying to piece together what he's saying and keep track of all the games and books - there's probably more content than Lord of the Rings at this point 😅 Definitely more complicated but Mat always makes them fun!

    • @paulknight8810
      @paulknight8810 Před rokem +4

      I’m in the same boat 😂

    • @owliria_sage
      @owliria_sage Před rokem +1

      Honestly same I've only seen a complete playthrough for security breach but have probably watched all of Matt's theories at this point

    • @princesssarah5130
      @princesssarah5130 Před rokem +2

      same

    • @takebackconstantinople82
      @takebackconstantinople82 Před rokem

      Does anyone how the song that starts in the background at 13:40 and ends at 16:02 is called/named?

  • @unorthodox1178
    @unorthodox1178 Před rokem +882

    This has gotten to the point where i trust MatPat more than my family 😂

  • @GaurdianPrime
    @GaurdianPrime Před rokem +1

    Honestly? This theory makes a lot of sense. I mean really, who else outside of Elizabeth/Baby do we have in the series that would actively try to bring William back? Maybe Cassidy or some of the others who were looking for more REVENGE. But that's even more of a stretch then Baby being behind it.

  • @RetiefPH
    @RetiefPH Před 7 měsíci +1

    This one makes a whole lotta sense actually. I love it.

  • @SparkTheDerg
    @SparkTheDerg Před rokem +431

    so glad that john is getting the appreciation he deserves, he's a great creator and theorist

  • @CalvinNoire
    @CalvinNoire Před rokem +759

    Your 2 newest theories are one of the most controversial theories, but it also explained a lot of the plot holes this franchise had.

    • @randomplayer1509
      @randomplayer1509 Před rokem +5

      yes, i understand

    • @autumnluck97
      @autumnluck97 Před rokem +3

      and yk, there’s every chance that they are right. A major mistake made in a video a few years back might still be going unnoticed which would change everything we already know abt the lore, but as ppl have grew up with this picture of the timeline in their mind - when any drastic changes r made they disapprove of them

    • @atanaZion
      @atanaZion Před rokem

      @@autumnluck97 Is more becaise whatever the plot the games had back them it will never be solved
      The FNaF theories have been around way longer than Crying Child, Elizabeth and Greg were characters, but all theories anf new plot revolves around them
      We will never get the og real story

  • @Everettosmond-cf2jg
    @Everettosmond-cf2jg Před 2 měsíci +2

    i love how entertaining this is

  • @Thatguy10294
    @Thatguy10294 Před rokem +1

    Once you finish cracking the fnaf lore make it a book, you would make so much money off of it

  • @TheWizardMus
    @TheWizardMus Před rokem +92

    This kinda matches an idea I've had floating around that Afton was raising Elizabeth to be his successor , perhaps after she showed interest in animatronics at Jr's, taking parts of Mangle home with her and trying to rebuild it at home. It explained to me both why Mangle was in Elizabeth's room in FNaF4 and why Vanessa's therapist lines point to her feeding the therapist Elizabeth's backstory, not her own.

  • @ghostpuppolter3207
    @ghostpuppolter3207 Před rokem +58

    "Sister Location: There was never just one". That takes on a whole new meaning now

    • @derrickdaniels3955
      @derrickdaniels3955 Před rokem +2

      Reminds of Balloras as voice made by a horror fan dude online. "Uncover the truth, but you still won't be done, there is more to be told, there was never just one" this was made by a fan, can't remember his name tho.

    • @Ricky-rt5om
      @Ricky-rt5om Před rokem

      O M G
      ur right

  • @mattw8910
    @mattw8910 Před 9 měsíci

    To add to your theory, iirc, owners of LLCs also cannot be held liable for any lawsuits/other legal trouble against the company. perfect for reviving a company with the reputation of Fazbear Entertaiment. All of this works because most small "sole proprietor" or "partnership" businesses are fully tied to the names of the owners, while LLCs establish that the company and the owner(s) have separate identities and are fully separate entities. Don't take my word for all this, though, as I've had one marketing class in high school and this is just what I remember lol.

  • @mishaguitard
    @mishaguitard Před rokem +2

    I think that patent 46 is Elizabeth Afton because in the therapy tapes she sounds like she is talking to a child the and only thing that dose not fit is that she likes dark basements because she was trapped in sister location for a decade or two and in the vid Matpat says that their could be hundreds of her

  • @cutiechica3961
    @cutiechica3961 Před rokem +384

    Hate this theory? It was AMAZING! You guys pieced it together so well! To me this feels like one of the most believable theories about Security Breach. You guys are awesome!

    • @angrysonicbird6779
      @angrysonicbird6779 Před rokem +1

      I just give up on Robot children, all I want is for it to be introduced naturally and NOT as a sudden thing just cramped in because Steel Wool relies too much on the past.

    • @tragedyplustime8271
      @tragedyplustime8271 Před rokem +1

      @@angrysonicbird6779 "Introduced naturally" is the literal opposite of the FNaF books.

    • @angrysonicbird6779
      @angrysonicbird6779 Před rokem +1

      @@tragedyplustime8271 I mean with more build up to it rather then just throwing it in at the end or off to the side of unimportance (like they did with Vanny's in-game role).

  • @matthewcloyd8413
    @matthewcloyd8413 Před rokem +226

    At this point The FNAF Lore is a game of Theory Chicken. Matpat keeps making theories that potentially solve the Lore and Timeline, and then Scott works around those theories and makes a game or book with Lore that makes the story even more complicated and intricate. Which makes Matpat go through the lore all over again to try to reconnect the dots, then Scott follows suit yet again with an even more complicated addition to the Lore. They're locked into this endless cycle and they refuse to surrender XD. It's all mind games at this point.

    • @VisionaryForge_
      @VisionaryForge_ Před rokem +13

      If Scott confirms this is partially just mind games for Matpat I think Mat would politely pass away XD

    • @tayloranderson7547
      @tayloranderson7547 Před rokem +2

      And then Scott works around those theories and makes a game or book with Lord that most stories more complete the instant matpat goes through the lure all over again trying to reconnect then Scott follow suit skull suit again complete andrex interaction addition to the lore all work looked into this endless circle and they refuse to slender XD . It's all online game at this point.

    • @matthewcloyd8413
      @matthewcloyd8413 Před rokem +8

      @@VisionaryForge_ Matpat would respond with a theory about how Scott is secretly a Sith Lord

    • @VisionaryForge_
      @VisionaryForge_ Před rokem

      @@matthewcloyd8413 Lmfaoooo

    • @TRG_R17
      @TRG_R17 Před 10 měsíci

      Reply 5

  • @ilovedinosaurs35
    @ilovedinosaurs35 Před rokem +2

    9:00 Or, you know, could be Afton. He seems to want to get himself back, he would go to that level of extreme for this, he could possess someone. Not saying it is, but it just seems more obvious.

  • @dicemartinez2678
    @dicemartinez2678 Před rokem

    This is just something I was thinking while watching this:
    1. Could the baby's connection to baloria be early stages of baby Elizabeth?
    2. In the games baby does have those pins where she changes could she have possibly used them

  • @enderthecat
    @enderthecat Před rokem +553

    I know he talked about us hating this theory but I unusually feel fulfilled. Almost like something I've been feeling odd about the story was finally talked about at long last and recognized, and it's satisfying.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r Před rokem +16

      Same here. Maybe because I always wanted Elizabeth to be more involved in the story. Even in Sister Location, we heard her but barely see her.

  • @AI-pl3tg
    @AI-pl3tg Před rokem +658

    fun naff is literally one of my favorite theory youtubers and I'm so glad he's getting the recognition he deserves 👏

    • @AdamAnouer
      @AdamAnouer Před rokem +8

      He’s a great theorist, my only issue with this content is he uses the word proof a lot when I’m pretty sure he means “evidence”.

    • @justsiena6050
      @justsiena6050 Před rokem

      @@AdamAnouer bro 💀

    • @AdamAnouer
      @AdamAnouer Před rokem +5

      @@justsiena6050 Oh don't sweat it, MatPat does the exact same thing with the word "Fact". In both cases they have evidence which could support a theory, but not proof the theory is correct. It's interesting absolutely, but fact and proof are undisputable it's what happened and can be shown.

    • @itsajx7875
      @itsajx7875 Před rokem

      I love fun naff too

    • @MallardOnVR
      @MallardOnVR Před rokem

      Yessss I agree! He is too underrated and deserves more love